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Termignoni ECU install problem

Started by pyriel, October 07, 2019, 10:44:16 AM

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pyriel

Hello guys,

I've run in yet another problem... so here is the story:
my friend bought an 695 (same as mine) with termignoni slip-ons, racing air filter and racing ECU. We've agreed to switch the sistem with mine.
We switched exausts - no problem, the same with air filter.
The problem is when we switch ECUs - neither bike would start.
Do we need to program something or what seems to be the problem?

(when we restore the ECUs both bikes start normally)

Thanks!

ducpainter

Swap gauges, or have both ecu's reflashed to disable the immobilizer.
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pyriel

I can't swap gauges unfortunately, mine is at 29k km, and his at 7k.
Can I reflash ECU's or need to take them to the shop?

ducpainter

#3
Quote from: pyriel on October 07, 2019, 10:50:23 AM
I can't swap gauges unfortunately, mine is at 29k km, and his at 7k.
Can I reflash ECU's or need to take them to the shop?
You'll probably need to send them out to an aftermarket company. I don't think Ducati dealers flash ecu's.

Where are you located?

You also might contact the OP from this thread. He seems to think it can be a DIY.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=77700.0
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pyriel


ducpainter

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”



pyriel

Ok, will try to look in that.

I've been curious and attempted to switch clocks, but it won't start either (his clock and electronics on my monster).

ducpainter

Quote from: pyriel on October 07, 2019, 12:06:29 PM
Ok, will try to look in that.

I've been curious and attempted to switch clocks, but it won't start either (his clock and electronics on my monster).
Are the bikes identical? Year etc?

That doesn't make much sense.
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pyriel

yes, both M695 2007. The only difference is one has termignoni slip-ons with ecu and air filter, and the other is regular.

The one that has termignoni also has original ecu, also tried to plug that in but it doesn't work.

ducpainter

Just to be clear...

The bikes will start with their own ecus and clocks on the bikes, but if you swap clocks and ecu's to the other bike it won't start?

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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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koko64

I think they haven't swapped clocks due to the large difference in mileage.
2015 Scrambler 800

pyriel

Yes, I've swapped the clocks just to see if it will start...

""The bikes will start with their own ecus and clocks on the bikes, but if you swap clocks and ecu's to the other bike it won't start?" -> this is correct.

koko64

#12
It must be the transponder in the key. The immobilizer senses the wrong key. Ignition switches for the correct key must also be swapped or the ECU's reflashed to delete the immobilizer as previously mentioned. To avoid that extra work, reprogramming with the red key or key card (depending on the model) is required. The dealer can do that with a new key iirc.
Another option is to clone an uncut key and then cut it to suit.
As a carb guy that's all I got.

Many edits as I remember what I did with my Hyper.

Nick or Howie might chime in.
2015 Scrambler 800

ducpainter

Quote from: koko64 on October 07, 2019, 12:48:19 PM
It must be the transponder in the key. The immobilizer senses the wrong key. Ignition switches for the correct key must also be swapped or the ECU's reflashed to delete the immobilized as previously mentioned. To avoid that reprogramming with the red key or key card (depending on the model) is required. As a carb guy that's all I got.
I think you're right Tony.

Flashing the ecu to eliminate the immobilizer is the answer.
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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stopintime

252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it