Thought it's time to get serious about getting some track day practice for anyone interested in becoming a better and safer rider.
Dillon expressed interest in coaching us if we can do it on a Monday, his day off. If a Monday is out for
most of the group we can ask savy riders like Keith to share their knowledge with the group or possibly have two track days.
Let me know who's interested and what days work for you.
Basic requirements: $30/hr per person, safety gear (will check on rentals for leathers and boots if requested),
I will take care of the tape, would like to have a first aid trained person attend,
full tank of gas, knowledge of basic track rules (will be handled prior to start),
bring your own bike, yourself and have a blast....and post away.
welcome back bubba. how was the trip ? dusty and i are in !
Quote from: kingbaby on May 16, 2008, 10:28:58 PM
welcome back bubba. how was the trip ? dusty and i are in !
Hey guys,
We had a great time in Germany enjoying the weather and company. Did get jealous though everytime I saw
a bike riding by...
I guess I should have asked you before volunteering your services for a track event [moto]
Let me know if this works for you.
HI my name is will from durango co and i would be vary interested in doing some track days [moto] just let me know what I can do to help [moto]
im totally in [thumbsup]
monday would be fine with me, just need to know enough in advance to get the time off...
and i will most likely need to rent leathers, unless i find some before then...
Yep, I am in for sure!! I will bring my medical gear
Quote from: Zaster on May 17, 2008, 08:43:05 AM
Hey guys,
We had a great time in Germany enjoying the weather and company. Did get jealous though everytime I saw
a bike riding by...
I guess I should have asked you before volunteering your services for a track event [moto]
Let me know if this works for you.
You can volunteer me for that any day ! Lets do it ! [thumbsup]
Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful day. Hope ta see ya out tomorrow.
If I'm in town, I'm IN!
(http://members.aol.com/formlarry/duc8.jpg)
Quote from: hunkypunk on May 17, 2008, 12:24:11 PM
If I'm in town, I'm IN!
(http://members.aol.com/formlarry/duc8.jpg)
Bring a 'School Zone' sign and we set it up at the track for inspirational purposes ;D
I'm so in. I'll bring Lance.
Mondays are good for me.
[thumbsup]I am in for Monday as well!
Quote from: ducmouse on May 17, 2008, 09:49:43 AM
im totally in [thumbsup]
monday would be fine with me, just need to know enough in advance to get the time off...
and i will most likely need to rent leathers, unless i find some before then...
How much notice would you like?
I'd be down, but Monday would be hard for me. I would also be able to show people around the track if it was on a Sunday.
hey luckyguy...welcome to the group! We need to do a week day unfortunately because all weekends are booked at the track. :-\
Quote from: Zaster on May 18, 2008, 05:35:34 PM
How much notice would you like?
at least 3 weeks
Quote from: ducmouse on May 19, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
at least 3 weeks
regardless of day, we should do an am session. one for the heat. two so people can get ta work & other things they might need to do that day. would that help you ducmouse ?
Quote from: kingbaby on May 19, 2008, 06:27:16 PM
regardless of day, we should do an am session. one for the heat. two so people can get ta work & other things they might need to do that day. would that help you ducmouse ?
if we do a track day i dont work at all that day! i dont wana practice and then have to go and life all evening!!
plus i may also have my job upstairs, so i may need to get that day off! im right in teh middle of getting that stuff done [moto]
Update...
I made reservations for June 23 from 9:00 A.M to 10:00 A.M.
Please let me know if this works for everyone interested.
This date can be changed but keep in mind that DucMouse needs at least
a 3 week window.
Kingbaby, can you check with the potential instructors to see if this works for them?
actually that will work out well babe! [thumbsup]
when i go by the shop tommorow i can ask dylan if he still is interested in teaching us?!?!!?
Quote from: ducmouse on May 30, 2008, 07:56:43 PM
actually that will work out well babe! [thumbsup]
when i go by the shop tommorow i can ask dylan if he still is interested in teaching us?!?!!?
Sounds like ya got it figured out. keep me posted. The 23rd. will work for Dusty & I.
Quote from: ducmouse on May 30, 2008, 07:56:43 PM
actually that will work out well babe! [thumbsup]
when i go by the shop tommorow i can ask dylan if he still is interested in teaching us?!?!!?
Trere is a track day tomorrow (Sunday) @ Sandia. Gheck it out when your @ the shop today. Im out of town til Monday.
Hope to ride with some of you the first of the week.
i can by the shop today but didnt see dylan....
Quote from: ducmouse on May 31, 2008, 01:13:03 PM
i can by the shop today but didnt see dylan....
he and his family went ta' Utah for the race this weekend.
lucky bastard!!!
they get to go to miller!!
so did some of the crew from D-town :'(
those damn butt monkeys
Calendar check needed....
I was told by several folks last night that they couldn't make the June 23rd date and would prefer June 30.
Also, how many of you would be interested in a two hour session, I can always tack on an extra hour.
Please post or PM me with any questions or concerns [moto] or cheapshots ;D
You dah man! I am in. Earlier the better due to heat
June 30th is my birthday and I plan on being on the summit of a 14'er to celebrate! [clap] I'll catch the next one though. Make sure to take lots of pictures and video, even better. [popcorn]
Quote from: Zaster on June 04, 2008, 05:08:13 PM
Calendar check needed....
I was told by several folks last night that they couldn't make the June 23rd date and would prefer June 30.
Also, how many of you would be interested in a two hour session, I can always tack on an extra hour.
Please post or PM me with any questions or concerns [moto] or cheapshots ;D
Seems like keeping both days would work out, as long as at least two people commit to each day. That way, everyone has a chance to go.
including the birthday girl.
Yea!!! [cheeky]
Then mark me down for June 23rd. I'm a track virgin, but Lance is nothing but a cheap track slut.
Quote from: bonfy on June 05, 2008, 05:31:58 AM
June 30th is my birthday and I plan on being on the summit of a 14'er to celebrate! [clap] I'll catch the next one though. Make sure to take lots of pictures and video, even better. [popcorn]
June 30th. That's my oldest sons' birthday, too. Are you going to be over 30 yet. Physically, that is, not mentally. [laugh] [thumbsup] [clap] [clap]
Quote from: kingbaby on June 05, 2008, 09:46:43 AM
Seems like keeping both days would work out, as long as at least two people commit to each day. That way, everyone has a chance to go.
including the birthday girl.
I'm going to try to make the 23rd. I can't absolutely commit but I'll give my best shot. I'd like to see if I can haul that beast around a track. How much was it going to cost per person? [moto]
Yes, Kawbell, I will be over 30, finally. :'(
Hey, if you go on the 23rd, it will be like motorcycle safety class again. Only this time, we won't be sitting on eliminators or whatever those little things were. We will be on our own beasties. How fun is THAT! [moto]
Quote from: Kawboy on June 05, 2008, 03:33:26 PM
I'm going to try to make the 23rd. I can't absolutely commit but I'll give my best shot. I'd like to see if I can haul that beast around a track. How much was it going to cost per person? [moto]
$80 for the first two riders ($40 each) and $30 per hour per person for every subsequent rider. We have to split the $25/hr for the EMT amongst the group which is required for a group bigger than two riders. [moto]
Quote from: kingbaby on June 05, 2008, 09:46:43 AM
Seems like keeping both days would work out, as long as at least two people commit to each day. That way, everyone has a chance to go.
including the birthday girl.
Great idea [thumbsup], l'll be booking both dates.
Bonfy,
Hell of a place to celebrate your 30ish+ birthday ;D
Quote from: bonfy on June 05, 2008, 03:44:01 PM
Yes, Kawbell, I will be over 30, finally. :'(
Hey, if you go on the 23rd, it will be like motorcycle safety class again. Only this time, we won't be sitting on eliminators or whatever those little things were. We will be on our own beasties. How fun is THAT! [moto]
Yeh. I had that semi dirt bike with the fat tires. We'll get go more than 15 mph, right? [moto] [thumbsup]
Quote from: Zaster on June 05, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
Great idea [thumbsup], l'll be booking both dates.
Bonfy,
Hell of a place to celebrate your 30ish+ birthday ;D
Yeah, this birthday will be a tricky one so I am planning a day that is sure to have a successful outcome. [clap] I can hear the angels screaming with laughter even as I type. [cheeky] Lance wants to see me go spank it at the track but that is an unknown territory of an uncertin outcome whereas treading on a summit in Colorado has proved to be a certain dose of good medicine, never fail. [thumbsup]
Quote from: bonfy on June 06, 2008, 01:37:06 PM
Yeah, this birthday will be a tricky one so I am planning a day that is sure to have a successful outcome. [clap] I can hear the angels screaming with laughter even as I type. [cheeky] Lance wants to see me go spank it at the track but that is an unknown territory of an uncertin outcome whereas treading on a summit in Colorado has proved to be a certain dose of good medicine, never fail. [thumbsup]
Have fun up there and enjoy your birthday. Your bike and your riding skills will help make it a safe and memorable outing, some higher protection from the boneheads out there doesn't hurt though. [moto]
Oh holy hell.. I'll be in Indiana from the 26th-30th.. which makes the 23rd perfect.. minus the fact that I'm already taking the thursday and friday off that week! EEK?! gonna talk to boss and see how hard it would be to get the Monday Morning off.. 23rd is still just a one hour session right?
Quote from: Ratfink749 on June 17, 2008, 02:08:04 PM
Oh holy hell.. I'll be in Indiana from the 26th-30th.. which makes the 23rd perfect.. minus the fact that I'm already taking the thursday and friday off that week! EEK?! gonna talk to boss and see how hard it would be to get the Monday Morning off.. 23rd is still just a one hour session right?
Yes, I booked a 1 hr session starting at 9:00 A.M. for both June 23 and 30th.
I'd like to get a rough headcount for both days to give the folks at the track an idea how
many hooligans to expect ;D
I am there on the 30th!
I am there on the 23rd.
I'm in, 23'rd. Rough estimate of ammount of $$$ to bring with me? Yay for good bosses that give mornings off!!!
Quote from: Ratfink749 on June 17, 2008, 06:18:56 PM
I'm in, 23'rd. Rough estimate of ammount of $$$ to bring with me? Yay for good bosses that give mornings off!!!
$40 max. should do it in case we need to get an EMT
23rd for me.
Dusty, our friend Louis & I are in for the 23rd & 30th
Any clue on how its gonna be run? is it gonna be "ok were here have fun!" or is it gonne be structured in sessions? I'm all twisted in the pants excited.. I'll be up sunday night prepping the 'Rod... and have an excuse to drive my truck!
Quote from: Ratfink749 on June 18, 2008, 09:07:48 AM
Any clue on how its gonna be run? is it gonna be "ok were here have fun!" or is it gonne be structured in sessions? I'm all twisted in the pants excited.. I'll be up sunday night prepping the 'Rod... and have an excuse to drive my truck!
Ratfink,
Glad you can make it.
I will leave the instructional portion to the experts aka kingbaby. He has the riding and track experience needed to make this a great learning event while emphasizing safety.
Show up early for instructions, bike prep etc.
Kingbaby,
Anything you would like to share with our group?
FWIW I've done 3 1/2 trackdays (dont ask about the 1/2).. If I can help I will.. But I'm still learning as well.. Never stop learning.. or the bike will toss you! [thumbsup]
i will be there both days! weather i ride both or not!-
anyone up for grabbing a morning snack before we race! have a little fuel before we spankin some arses [moto]
Is it going to be EMT and the hole shootin match ? or follow the leader no pass ?
i think tyhat would depend on u! since ur the teacher........ ;D
Quote from: kingbaby on June 18, 2008, 11:27:47 PM
Is it going to be EMT and the hole shootin match ? or follow the leader no pass ?
Still trying to get these guys to call me back to confirm rules and regulations.
What format would everyone prefer?
Lets pay the extra little amount for the emt.
Any regulations on spectators? got a couple people that would like to watch... Extra for EMT.. I'm all for it. [leo]
Quote from: Ratfink749 on June 20, 2008, 07:30:07 AM
Any regulations on spectators? got a couple people that would like to watch... Extra for EMT.. I'm all for it. [leo]
Only req. for spectators is that they need to sign in at the office..
EMT will be available at a cost of $25/hr
Since this is our first day at the track we need to put the utmost emhasis on safety and learning how to
navigate the course in an organized manner. This will help maximize the learning experience while making
this outing a fun event for people with all riding skills.
can someone post up directions to the track? I've never been out there. :-[
http://www.sandiamotorsports.com/map.shtml (http://www.sandiamotorsports.com/map.shtml)
Map and directions...
thanks!!!! watchin' the motogp in 45 mins. yippeee!!! go stoner!!!!!!!!!!!!
CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to pass on track day tomorrow. Remember Bonfy's white striped rear tire that I chewed her aout about. Well, guess who has one now. Got to get a new rear tire. I don't know if I can make next weeks either. I'm going to Vegas over the weekend and may not be back in time.
CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP!!!!!
I would love to but I am still waiting around for the insurance company to get there asses in gear. Lets do one in the fall if I miss this one. I want to get back out there on the track!!!
hell ya! maybe we can plan one when we all come back from ouray....
Quote from: godec540 on June 22, 2008, 06:13:52 PM
I would love to but I am still waiting around for the insurance company to get there asses in gear. Lets do one in the fall if I miss this one. I want to get back out there on the track!!!
u have full leathers?!?!?!
ooooo ya baby!! i wana see [popcorn]
nothing like men in leathers
We'll have Gaterade and water for all the monsters ;D
We'll miss you, Kawbell, Godec, and hunkypunk, but there'll be lots more trackdays in the NMMR's future.
Too bad about your tire, Kawbell. Bizarre how one mile, okey, dokey, next mile, not so much.
See ya'll tomorrow!
Quote from: Zaster on June 22, 2008, 07:13:36 PM
We'll have Gaterade and water for all the monsters ;D
... Guess I better bring my own water then.. ;) I'm gonna bring my set of tools too in case anyone needs anything to help setup.. I'll be there about 8:30ish.. if the gate's not open yet.. well then I'll sit around and wait! I'm prepped loaded up and ready to drag knees!
Had a blast today.. Thanks again for setting this all up, I really wish I could be at the next one... But I gotta go out and be a Best Man in Indiana (he couldnt put the wedding off til MotoGP weekend.. I tried) I felt really off today when I tried to push it a little, My brain still is in "Oh my god I might lowside in the DoubleApex again" mode and it threw me way off.. so I guess Its gonna be more practice for me.. I can't get my mind off the stupid seams in the asphalt. Good to see everyone. It was great.
Quote from: Ratfink749 on June 23, 2008, 05:35:08 PM
Had a blast today.. Thanks again for setting this all up, I really wish I could be at the next one... But I gotta go out and be a Best Man in Indiana (he couldnt put the wedding off til MotoGP weekend.. I tried) I felt really off today when I tried to push it a little, My brain still is in "Oh my god I might lowside in the DoubleApex again" mode and it threw me way off.. so I guess Its gonna be more practice for me.. I can't get my mind off the stupid seams in the asphalt. Good to see everyone. It was great.
Thanks for coming Ratfink,
We can set this up anytime we have two or more interested riders... and I know about the double apex which is the
only part of the course I can't navigate as smooth as the rest [thumbsup]
Well it's picture time:
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getting ready for a great morning
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Photo op with the only guy hitting the asphalt..sorry about the gust
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My heros
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This guy looks fast even standing still..
More pics:
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Ladies arguing which guy looked it's best on the track
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Keith having fun [thumbsup]
It was a perfect day ! Thank you all for being a part of it. Especially Pam for being the best crew chief / photographer ever. We rode until we couldn't see straight. Had EMT, food , water , wide open track & conquering our demons all for $39. it doesn't get any better. Hope to see more of you out there next monday @ 8:30 .
;D ;D ;D
Still smiling from the fantastic day at the track today! My turn to post pictures!
Thank you Pam for bringing beverages and powerbars, keeping Lance entertained and off the track, and for manning the camera:
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Here the gang is setting up to ride, taping our headlights and taillights:
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Dusty, Kingbaby, and Zaster discussing the finer points:
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Out on the track: Dusty, Ratfink, and Kingbaby:
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Wait a minute, I'm not done posting!
Louis is mounting the video camera to Dillon's bike now:
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/100_3268.jpg)
Kingbaby, Dusty, and Dillon enjoying apre trackday:
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Me enjoying my first trackday:
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Dillon fresh off a hot lap:
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/100_3277.jpg)
And a couple of videos - don't blow your speakers!!
Here is some of the group on the warmup lap:
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Some footage of Dillon:
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/th_100_3274.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/?action=view¤t=100_3274.flv)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/th_100_3272.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/?action=view¤t=100_3272.flv)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/th_100_3273.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/?action=view¤t=100_3273.flv)
Wow that looks like it was fun. Glad everyone made it out unscathed. [moto]
looks like it was alot of fun!
so how bad did u guys tear it up [beer]
Hey Momo, I like some more action shots if you got em. The guys at my other board are shouting for them too.
Man......!!!!!! Cant believe I missed that!!!! Check Summer Rider post for an update on my travels eastward.
yeah guys thanks for inviting me out i had a great time, anytime you guys want to go faster just say the word!!!
Quote from: triplethreat on June 25, 2008, 02:06:46 PM
yeah guys thanks for inviting me out i had a great time, anytime you guys want to go faster just say the word!!!
Is that you, Dillon? Thank
YOU for joining us! I really appreciated the time you and Kingbaby both took to show us some smooth lines around the course and general track instruction. It was very helpful to a rookie. I was floored, I mean really floored by the expertise with which you guys navigated the track. Fast and smooth.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on June 25, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
Hey Momo, I like some more action shots if you got em. The guys at my other board are shouting for them too.
Hey, WDB, I didn't get alot of action shots because most of the time I was on the track myself. There at the end I was able to shoot some video but it was mainly Dillon and Louis still out there by then. Pam got some good shots though so I will see if I have anymore that you might like.
well f me... my 1098 has a blown head gasket (hence the smoking). Another 2 weeks at least.
Time for PJ to give me a bike for track day!! [moto]
Quote from: WannaDucBad on June 25, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
Hey Momo, I like some more action shots if you got em. The guys at my other board are shouting for them too.
Well WDB,
Our pitboss worked hard to capture the moments of an awesome outing and she is willing to share...
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/zaster99/6-23-2008TrackPractice017.jpg)
Keith and Luis
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The gang
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Dillon showing Zaster the points of focus
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Bonfy doing what she does so well
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Luis, Keith and Zaster having fun
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Luis giving the Buell a workout
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Monster enjoying the track
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Dillon showing us how it's done
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The aftermath
Nice now that's what I'm talkin' about! [thumbsup]
Awesome!! Good job Pammy! Thanks for posting 'em Zaster! I got an adrenalin rush just looking through them! [clap]
Quote from: triplethreat on June 25, 2008, 02:06:46 PM
yeah guys thanks for inviting me out i had a great time, anytime you guys want to go faster just say the word!!!
ooo I want to go faster... But I'm going to be in Indiana this monday. And I've gotta get over my fear of the damn road seams.
we will have to plan for a day in july or something
i wont be here this monday!
but i heard that PJs is doing a track sometime in july
th PJ's day is the 6th, and smri is having one soon too i think the 19th?
so it sounds like we have to cancel this week's run? Everyone is out of town by the sounds of it.
Quote from: triplethreat on June 26, 2008, 10:09:05 AM
th PJ's day is the 6th, and smri is having one soon too i think the 19th?
i may down for that! im off the 6th
Quote from: ducducgooseme on June 26, 2008, 02:35:40 PM
so it sounds like we have to cancel this week's run? Everyone is out of town by the sounds of it.
Let me know who's going or if I need to cancel our track reservation and the EMT for this coming Monday and reschedule for another day.
Due to popular demand tomorrow's practice day will be postponed/rescheduled.
Let me know which dates works for you, especially for the folks that didn't have the opportunity to
take advantage of the fine teaching skills offered by several members of our group.
This is the best way to enhance your riding skills in a very safe environment and with an
awesome group of people to boot [thumbsup]
im totally down for another! but i start my new job next week, so i'll be on days! just let me know and i think my boss would be cool about letting me either come in late or taking the day!
but if my leave went throught i will be off july 21, which is a monday an i may be down for that!!
Kingbaby,
I'm down (I think that's the proper hip english, help me ducmouse) for a practice day on the 10th of August.
Would be a great tune up for our Ouray ride and it never hurts to work on improving your riding skills and to hang with your peps.
I highly recommend this for anyone who hasn't had the opportunity to take advantage of the fine teaching skill
of our group members and their one on one instructions on the race track.
The 10th? Thats a Sunday right? I could do that... Earlier we were talking about Monday's but Sunday is a whole other ballgame.. I'd be in for that if it happens. [clap]
Sorry.
my mistake it is Monday the 11th.
I would be up for it if my bike is. I have all of the new parts on order. I would need a set of rental leathers though. PJs is working on straightening the frame right now and I have the hard stuff to replace sitting at my house the rest should be here by the middle of next week. Let me know what is going on with it if you can. Thanks
Hey Godec...isnt NOW a GREAT time to buy some new leathers?!! Your bike is getting some new gear...you should too! [coffee]
I don't know if this counts as "leathers". But Dustys got an extra set of latex & a whip you can use. [roll]
ball gag too? [coffee]
Hey Godec, let me know if you run into any problems putting the bike back together. I'm not a four valver but I have some experience and may be able to answer any simple questions...... or you could go to the tech section and get expert advise. Lame. [laugh]
Well kids, Sandia had to cancel our Monday morning session. :( She is working on getting us another date.
I'll keep you all posted.
i sooo wish we could do it on a sat or something.... :-\
...wait nevermind,im out of bike :'(
GAWD DAMMIT!!!! i also keep forgeting :-\
Later in the fall we can get it for the weekends.
Quote from: kingbaby on August 08, 2008, 10:18:06 AM
Later in the fall we can get it for the weekends.
i can live with that [laugh]
hopefully i will have a new baby
Just wanted to make sure all you speed demons got a chance to see this... very informative
http://www.ebike-ridingtips.co.uk/video/mediaplayer.swf?file=rossi.flv (http://www.ebike-ridingtips.co.uk/video/mediaplayer.swf?file=rossi.flv)
Quote from: Zaster on December 02, 2008, 08:38:08 PM
Just wanted to make sure all you speed demons got a chance to see this... very informative
http://www.ebike-ridingtips.co.uk/video/mediaplayer.swf?file=rossi.flv (http://www.ebike-ridingtips.co.uk/video/mediaplayer.swf?file=rossi.flv)
[bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down]
holy fuvk balls is thaT freakin spankin aweome!!! like WOW!!
Awsome!!! Required study. There will be a test. [moto] [moto] [clap] [thumbsup]
[popcorn]
I now understand why I am wheelying away from every stoplight. I'm not getting my foot on the peg fast enough. This will help. [cheeky]
Whether you like Rossi or not that is a great video.
Didn't know what thread to post this on just wanted to share this with fellow monsters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXBJWQhKcx0&feature=email (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXBJWQhKcx0&feature=email)
[bow_down] OM freakin G where do i sign up! [bacon] [bow_down]
Nice find, Zaster! I liked his jacket.
Quote from: bonfy on December 12, 2008, 08:40:21 PM
Nice find, Zaster! I liked his jacket.
Darn it bonfy.. this was about the bike not the man ;)
I have to admit that if I were of the female persuasion
I would have to give this guy high marks..never mind the jacket ;D ;D
Quote from: hunkypunk on December 12, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
[bow_down] OM freakin G where do i sign up! [bacon] [bow_down]
Your local Harley dealership come late April. Sorry...you asked.
You'll still be good to go with the Mille on the quiz HP. There wasn't an option "Have you ever walked into an H-D dealership ?" 8)
Quote from: Zaster on December 12, 2008, 09:12:24 PM
Darn it bonfy.. this was about the bike not the man ;)
I have to admit that if I were of the female persuasion
I would have to give this guy high marks..never mind the jacket ;D ;D
[laugh] [laugh] [cheeky] I know! I kept waiting for the Monster part to come around, but when it stayed on the MV Augusta, my thoughts wandered until I realized, hey! that kinda looks like one of my ducati jackets. hey! that guy is kinda cute. I also wondered what that large missile-looking thing was for awhile before bringing my mind back on task. He reminded me of WDB and HP and Godec with all the wheelying. They need to review the video on getting their feet on pegs faster to prevent the front wheel coming up. [laugh]
Quote from: kingbaby on December 12, 2008, 09:43:42 PM
Your local Harley dealership come late April. Sorry...you asked.
You'll still be good to go with the Mille on the quiz HP. There wasn't an option "Have you ever walked into an H-D dealership ?" 8)
Actually once to buy some tshirts as gifts and a guy i worked for is a salesman there/floyd I have to admit I was also looking at Buell's but now that augusta is ther I am going to spend some time toolin out to alameda
Thats awesome.
Aprilla also has a new superbike coming out this year. I'll try to find pics.
As far as picking your feet up fast. I say, don't ever put em' down, ya' might slip. [laugh]
Quote from: bonfy on December 12, 2008, 10:23:37 PMI kept waiting for the Monster part to come around, but when it stayed on the MV Augusta, my thoughts wandered until I realized, hey!
Alrighty then, here is a Monster ride for you..not the best picure quality but looks like fun:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=LD2dQPe6Lfs&feature=related (http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=LD2dQPe6Lfs&feature=related)
And here is some racing action for all you Monsters:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=BdAWp8AbjeQ&feature=related (http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=BdAWp8AbjeQ&feature=related)
Swwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Thanks, Zaster!
Quote from: kingbaby on December 13, 2008, 09:32:49 AM
Thats awesome.
Aprilla also has a new superbike coming out this year. I'll try to find pics.
As far as picking your feet up fast. I say, don't ever put em' down, ya' might slip. [laugh]
...and I probably would with those new boots of mine. They've embarrassed me more than once. :-[
Quote from: hunkypunk on December 13, 2008, 05:35:15 AM
Actually once to buy some tshirts as gifts and a guy i worked for is a salesman there/floyd I have to admit I was also looking at Buell's but now that augusta is ther I am going to spend some time toolin out to alameda
I sat outside a Harley shop on my Duc in Glenwood Springs last summer while I waited for the fellow I was running around with to go in a buy a t-shirt. The sales girl waved me in and said "we don't bite". I smiled under my helmet. I managed to get all the way through my Sturgis trip without setting foot upon the threshold of a HD shop either. Stubborn and close-minded about sums it up. [thumbsup] [moto]
Something along the cruiser/bagger line:
http://www.month2month.com/resources/swf/Rockin%20Santa%20Final.swf (http://www.month2month.com/resources/swf/Rockin%20Santa%20Final.swf)
Quote from: bonfy on December 13, 2008, 11:33:08 AM
Something along the cruiser/bagger line:
http://www.month2month.com/resources/swf/Rockin%20Santa%20Final.swf (http://www.month2month.com/resources/swf/Rockin%20Santa%20Final.swf)
VERY cute! [clap]
Forum Lurkers please note: This is not about politics or religion. Notice I am not giving my opinion or asking for yours.
Now the question: Can we please confirm a make the beast with two backsing track / practice day?
Before I have to go to confession / penance, or mommy has to give me a "timeout".
I vote for mommy putting u in time out!! Rule of thumb remember!!
Let's say 1 month from today that work for every one???
Done! [evil]
im totally down.....
whenever [moto]
Really? How much notice do people need for week days?
at least a week....
and its hoping that no one else has that day off so i can get it
Quote from: DucMouse on March 24, 2009, 09:40:35 AM
at least a week....
More like 2 for me.. :) Letttsss doooo iiitttt
I figured as much. Mouse gets a little excited on occasion.
I'm interested in getting together for a tune up before the start of riding season to get rid of the winter cob webs. The last group practice day was fun, educational and it helped advance my limited riding skills.
I can't think of a better way to get our group to practice and improve their safe riding skills. Hopefully we can count on the same two instructors that made the last outing a great learning experience..... [moto]
;D i <3 trackdays
Quote from: triplethreat on April 18, 2009, 08:49:34 AM
;D i <3 trackdays
So that leaves you Kingbaby to complete our instructor support.
What's it take to call you out ;D
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Quote from: Zaster on April 18, 2009, 01:47:07 PM
So that leaves you Kingbaby to complete our instructor support.
What's it take to call you out ;D
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You know better. You know where to find me. I'm always good to go. ("The Good The Bad & The Ugly" playing in the background)
Dusty says ditto.
Quote from: kingbaby on April 18, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
("The Good The Bad & The Ugly" playing in the background)
Hey Bonfy, where are you??!!
Quote from: kingbaby on April 18, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
You know better. You know where to find me. I'm always good to go. ("The Good The Bad & The Ugly" playing in the background)
Dusty says ditto.
Wow that happens to be the first record Pam bought ....boy is she dating herself ;D [laugh]
I'll be back in the country the weekend of May 16 and will be ready for whatever works for the gang [moto]
Quote from: Zaster on April 18, 2009, 02:58:41 PM
Wow that happens to be the first record Pam bought ....boy is she dating herself ;D [laugh]
I'll be back in the country the weekend of May 16 and will be ready for whatever works for the gang [moto]
I'll get with Dillon, & we'll work on a date. Do you have a preference ?
Quote from: kingbaby on April 18, 2009, 03:29:16 PM
I'll get with Dillon, & we'll work on a date. Do you have a preference ?
Anytime after we get back from Europe.... [moto]
Quote from: Zaster on April 18, 2009, 04:26:22 PM
Anytime after we get back from Europe.... [moto]
Soooo what you're saying is, it's a very small window. [laugh]
We will take care of it from here.
Remember. No pics...It didn't happen. Have a great trip.
Quote from: kingbaby on April 18, 2009, 04:48:08 PM
Soooo what you're saying is, it's a very small window. [laugh]
We will take care of it from here.
Remember. No pics...It didn't happen. Have a great trip.
Thanks kingbaby...
Just bought a 4GB sandisc for that very reason
We'll miss you guys :-[
We already miss you two. Haven't seen you in a while. :( Have a wonderful trip. Can't wait to see you when you get back! ;D
We are trying to hook up with JJ in Madrid tomorrow if it all works out for him.
Quote from: kingbaby on April 18, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
We are trying to hook up with JJ in Madrid tomorrow if it all works out for him.
Post up or text and I'll try to meet up with you.
I'm meeting HP at 10:30 to head up to the Cafe
Quote from: Zaster on April 18, 2009, 06:20:24 PM
Post up or text and I'll try to meet up with you.
I'm meeting HP at 10:30 to head up to the Cafe
Sounds great. Hope it all works out. He is bringing a friend.
Quote from: kingbaby on April 18, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
We are trying to hook up with JJ in Madrid tomorrow if it all works out for him.
Cool...found a way to access forum on my phone...:)
Alrt! Bike's setup for preload, compression, rebound...all set to ride and rock...1 week vacation and I have all the time...
Friend dropped out for tomm...maybe next week..but, I'll hit the road aroung 9 to 10...just tell me where to meet...Kingbaby if it works better for you, I can meet you near crest or coffee at dawn...unless you are coming to Madrid...which is fine as well...will call tomm..so long...
Quote from: Zaster on April 18, 2009, 02:58:41 PM
Wow that happens to be the first record Pam bought ....boy is she dating herself ;D [laugh]
I'll be back in the country the weekend of May 16 and will be ready for whatever works for the gang [moto]
this is the same week i'm donw with schoolio...so i ain't got a thing to do.... but [moto]
Quote from: triplethreat on April 20, 2009, 09:32:52 AM
this is the same week i'm donw with schoolio...so i ain't got a thing to do.... but [moto]
Works for me....I'll need a fix after not riding for four weeks anyway [moto]
so when we getting together for this!?!?!?!
Quote from: DucMouse on May 15, 2009, 03:06:20 PM
so when we getting together for this!?!?!?!
Any day but a weekend day. We passed the time that races do not occupy the weekends. Mornings are always better.
I'm interested.. Mornings of weekdays are better for me as well. A week in advance is preferable. With luck My timing belts will be in and on before a date is decided..
Quote from: Ratfink749 on May 15, 2009, 03:46:46 PM
I'm interested.. Mornings of weekdays are better for me as well. A week in advance is preferable. With luck My timing belts will be in and on before a date is decided..
U dont need no stinkin belts. [laugh]
Let us know when you're ready.
Trying to keep on the topics.
Based on the "whos riding this weekend" thread. Does anyone else want to do a cruise around / track day any time soon?
Cost: $38 per person (6 minimum).
Done & home by 11am (worn out).
No F'n ____, ____ or ____ that are (as far as I can tell around here) inevitable "out there".
+1
Depending on date and time I'm 99% likely to be in on it! Yay trackday!
Quote from: Ratfink749 on May 30, 2009, 09:53:10 AM
Depending on date and time I'm 99% likely to be in on it! Yay trackday!
SUPA !!! I'll work on getting a day, and remember, weekdays AM are when we can have it.
Works for me. I'll just need to let the boss know ahead of time. But I'm guessing that'll go for most other Mon-fri work schedule people too. Time to get my twist of the wrist books and start reviewing them for the 7th time.
I have to be in Raleigh June 25 through 28 but any other dates will work for me.
ya as long as i have a week in advance i can get the day off [moto]
Quote from: kingbaby on May 04, 2010, 10:52:22 AM
We get it for 2hrs. $42 per, EMT, ride all you want. Work?
Did somebody say trackday ;D [clap]
Thought that some pictures of our past adventures might get new members
and folks on the fence interested [moto]
Count me in. [thumbsup]
you know i will be down...i will put my time in the computer...
I'm down for sure as long as it's not on the 21st or 28th of June. I have this stupid military inspection going on during those dates and I wouldn't be able to get out of at all. :( I'm super stoked about a track day! I wanna learn some cool shit! I'm a fairly inexperienced rider and could use the improvement for sure! [moto]
You want improvements? PFFF, We've got mad skills.
Cowboy Monkey Whiplash rides in Indy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sawSp9oFuco&feature=related#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
I'll make sure they aren't those dates [thumbsup]
Quote from: kingbaby on May 07, 2010, 10:32:27 AM
I'll make sure they aren't those dates [thumbsup]
I'm in for a track day as well. Just post up in advance for a notice...Cheers!!!
Any updates, Ideas, Times, or anything been finalized yet? Friend of mine would like to do one with us but was wondering if the SMRI leathers would be available to rent/borrow? (He's a Kawi 636 rider.. I know.. nobodies perfect) I'll be in Indiana from June 12th-19th. SMRI Trackday is on the 20th for those interested.
Being a spectator at the races today and talking to several folks who attended our last private practice day, I'm inclined to suggest a NMMR or Hooligan track day in September or October.
Riding with folks we know is far better far than taking a chance with some unpredictable riders.
Who's game and willing to improve their skills?
As with all things good.. It'll depend on the time and money involved. If it happens to be after a good week at work and I can get the time off... I'm all for it!!
Quote from: Zaster on August 22, 2010, 07:25:23 PM
Being a spectator at the races today and talking to several folks who attended our last private practice day, I'm inclined to suggest a NMMR or Hooligan track day in September or October.
Riding with folks we know is far better far than taking a chance with some unpredictable riders.
Who's game and willing to improve their skills?
Yep, same here, I'm in if I have a bike and good tires. That track day ate 70% of my tire life and I just put them on before Ouray! I'm giving in my bike for valves the first week of September. PJ's expects 1 week to a month depending on some recent issues on beat up cams!!! I hope it is one week, you know I'm gentle on my bikes! ;) But, if there is an opportunity, I'll never miss it!!! Such an addiction...my dreams last two days have been those corners... [thumbsup]
I wanna play too. When? How much?
I'll be in town for 2 weeks+ beginning around Sept 30th, so I am definitely interested. Bike should be running by then.
Quote from: crat996 on August 23, 2010, 07:20:31 PM
I wanna play too. When? How much?
Last time we did it we paid less than $40 per person for 1 1/2 hours including the EMT.
Scott might know the current pricing and get us the inside scoop.
Quote from: nicrosato on August 24, 2010, 02:15:57 AM
I'll be in town for 2 weeks+ beginning around Sept 30th, so I am definitely interested. Bike should be running by then.
Would be nice to accommodate Nic....anyone who is interested please post up so we can get a common consenses
about the date. I'm sure we would have to pick a weekday since the weekends are booked up way ahead of time.
Week days, let me see here.
...OK got it, before 6am or after 9pm.
Seesh, I was getting a bit worried there for a second that I wouldn't have time.
Kidding aside, so sorry I will miss out this this time around.
Quote from: kingbaby on August 25, 2010, 05:14:52 AM
Week days, let me see here.
...OK got it, before 6am or after 9pm.
Seesh, I was getting a bit worried there for a second that I wouldn't have time.
Kidding aside, so sorry I will miss out this this time around.
If you want, I'll take your bike and ride it at the track for you, so it will be LIKE you were there ;D
Weekday's are fine with me, Mornings preferable, at least 1 week's notice to let the boss know would be preferable.
Watched several NMMR hooligans attending this Sunday's track day:
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Thanks Karl for the great photos. i wish i had given you my camera to take a shot but thx for your shots!
It was a great day out at the track
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Oh well maybe next time. Looks like it was a good time for everyone. Hope all went well!
Tried to make it out there, but the '97 M900 didn't cooperate. Dammit. She's running but w/issues.
Glad all had a safe day! [thumbsup]
ANOTHER AWESOME TRACK DAY! Thanks for the company Craig, Scott, Ed, Larry & Karl! Couldnt stay for the last session...had to pick my GF. Sorry Scott couldnt say BYE! I picked up pace through the day and thanks Scott for reminding me to relax at corners...Felt lot better and no cramps! This is getting to be fun... [thumbsup]
I hope all of you had equally good days. Everyone looked great, but the most fun on a bike award has to go to Ed riding his shiny new SR500 and dragging hard parts like knee pucks. Who says ya gotta lean deep to have fun? [bacon] [bacon] A close second to Craig Ratliff on his shiny new (notice a theme, here?) GSXRocket1000. That thing flat moves out when you point it and pull the trigger!!!! We'll have to move that guy up to expert soon.
You guys have me Jonesing for next weekend, already! [moto]
Quote from: Cloner on September 12, 2010, 06:11:47 PM
I hope all of you had equally good days. Everyone looked great, but the most fun on a bike award has to go to Ed riding his shiny new SR500 and dragging hard parts like knee pucks. Who says ya gotta lean deep to have fun? [bacon] [bacon] A close second to Craig Ratliff on his shiny new (notice a theme, here?) GSXRocket1000. That thing flat moves out when you point it and pull the trigger!!!! We'll have to move that guy up to expert soon.
[moto]
Do I get a bronze...!?! Craig was flying on that Rocket Monster...Riding behind him, I was very impressed at his skills improving tremendously in last 2 months! Now I want a freakin slipper clutch...am getting tired of the backlash on my bike downshifting...gets worse with heat! I was happy with my performance on the last session I did, though I need a track bike... [bang]
hey guys, sounds like you had fun at the track.....sorry i didnt make it. didnt know about it since my damn computer at home wont let me on the site. gotta put my 2 cents in at work. anyway im glad everyone was safe. let me know when your gonna be up at the track and ill come up and support! oh and when the next nmmr track day is!!! Please!!! don't wanna miss that! i wanna learn some stuff from you guys! if you don't have my # just let me know. or you can get it from Carl, Cloner, Matt, Krystal. i went up the crest sunday about 8 and nobody was on the mountain! nice weather too! i think i saw like one car coming down when i was going up. [moto] And no cops! it was great! wish you all were there! talk to you soon. -Adam
Quote from: JJ on September 13, 2010, 06:40:43 AM
Do I get a bronze...!?! Craig was flying on that Rocket Monster...Riding behind him, I was very impressed at his skills improving tremendously in last 2 months! Now I want a freakin slipper clutch...am getting tired of the backlash on my bike downshifting...gets worse with heat! I was happy with my performance on the last session I did, though I need a track bike... [bang]
Aww, you guys. I don't think I was going that fast. I was just having fun. It's pretty fun when you don't have to worry about wadding up your good bike. I don't want to go down on any bike. The tires are pretty good too. The Pilot Power One's that are on there stick like glue to the track so I am sure that has a lot to do with it. As far as going to expert, I don't know about that. I think I am far from that. I thought about it, but those guys are FAST! Either way, I had a blast out there.
You don't get faster riding with slow folks, Craig.
As to the slipper clutch, JJ, it won't get rid of lash issues. You should learn how to practice the art of "throttle-blip-for-the-downshift-whilst-braking" to overcome that.
You can safely downshift without upsetting the chassis by blipping the throttle before smoothly releasing the clutch, whether the brakes are engaged or not. Blipping (not revving....but blipping) helps match the engine's RPM with the tire's RPM so it doesn't upset the chassis when you downshift. It doesn't work if this sends the engine beyond its mechanical limits, exploding the engine, but as long as you're not banging down three gears and letting the slipper (that you don't have) do all the work it's fantastic.
Practice first without the brakes....just release the throttle in the upper half of a gear, then pull in the clutch, bang a downshift, blip the throttle, and ease out the clutch. Do this until you can do it all smoothly and without spending time thinking about it. It needs to be second nature. Eventually you'll be blipping as you employ the lever to downshift simultaneously, but you don't have to start out that way.
Next, practice the same thing, but with mild pressure on the brakes in a non-critical braking situation (like in a parking lot or on a straight road with no traffic). This cannot be done using the "four fingered braking" techniques learned in MSF, so you'll have to try something new which only works on modern bikes with good brakes. Use either your index finger, or your index and middle finger to apply the brake. (I, personally use my middle finger only, with my index finger laid on the brake lever pivot....but I'm odd like that) keep your ring finger and your pinky finger wrapped (loosely....just like you were using all four fingers....no "death grip" required) around the throttle and lightly blip it with your thumb and two smaller fingers whilst downshifting. Strive to keep constant pressure on the brake lever throughout....which is easier with a single finger on the brake, imho. Your braking finger(s) should extend as you blip, then flex back to its (their) natural braking posture as you release the throttle.
At first, you'll be very jerky. The pressure on the brake will either increase or decrease during this exercise until you get the hang of it, and that's why you do it in non-critical situations. However, the skill isn't difficult and it comes quickly. Most folks tend to increase pressure during this technique, so make sure there's nobody immediately behind you if you're practicing on the street. You might stop more quickly than you'd like, or startle them with a jerky application of the front brake. ;D
Good luck. Holler if you think it doesn't work well for you and I'll explain how slipper clutches are for pussies with too much money. [thumbsup]
Great knowledge Scott, thanks! [thumbsup] I'll have to read this about 10 times and then practice, screw-up, read it another 10 times and repeat! :) But, I'll get it figured... :-[
Another great referance if you dont already have them are the Keith Code books, Twist of the Wrist and Twist of the Wrist II. Both are full of lots of great track and road riding info. (mostly track) I've read them 2 or 3 times now. Rev matching works wonders on the track! Before I learned how to I had a few instances of the bikes rear end coming around and getting squirrely on me. This last trackday I had my rev matching down fairly well and it slowed and turned without upsetting the tire or chassis much at all!
Quote from: Ratfink749 on September 13, 2010, 11:37:27 AM
Another great referance if you dont already have them are the Keith Code books, Twist of the Wrist and Twist of the Wrist II. Both are full of lots of great track and road riding info. (mostly track) I've read them 2 or 3 times now. Rev matching works wonders on the track! Before I learned how to I had a few instances of the bikes rear end coming around and getting squirrely on me. This last trackday I had my rev matching down fairly well and it slowed and turned without upsetting the tire or chassis much at all!
Thanks, I have both volumes and I'll read them again. I have managed to blip as Scott suggested and it works...but I have to perfect it with high speed braking...It is an on and off thing for me...exhaustion plays a bit of role too...Sometimes, I have turned in towards Scott's infamous corner post and felt that I fell off a sky...its like a mind game...rather than the narrow corner radius it seems like a BIG SEA...must be exhaustion with heat...MIRAGE as they call it!
Quote from: Cloner on September 13, 2010, 10:59:02 AM
You don't get faster riding with slow folks, Craig.
Good luck. Holler if you think it doesn't work well for you and I'll explain how slipper clutches are for pussies with too much money. [thumbsup]
Thanks Scott. So, do you think I need to move up next time? I think I passed almost everyone the last 2 sessions I ran. I guess I could try the next group and if they are too fast, I could always go back down, huh?
BTW, the GSXR came with a slipper. It's pretty nice to have. And I'm not a pussy. :-*
Quote from: crat996 on September 13, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
Thanks Scott. So, do you think I need to move up next time? I think I passed almost everyone the last 2 sessions I ran. I guess I could try the next group and if they are too fast, I could always go back down, huh?
You were definitely the fastest guy on the track the last two sessions you rode except for a couple of control riders. That said, don't move up until you're comfortable. I still like to ride with the intermediate group occasionally. That way you can ride with friends and you always have someone to pass. ;D
Quote from: crat996 on September 13, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
BTW, the GSXR came with a slipper. It's pretty nice to have. And I'm not a pussy. :-*
Real men join the Army. You are a pussy. End of discussion. :P
By the way, if nobody told you today.....Thanks for your Service....Pussy. [evil]
Quote from: Cloner on September 13, 2010, 07:12:54 PM
You were definitely the fastest guy on the track the last two sessions you rode except for a couple of control riders. That said, don't move up until you're comfortable. I still like to ride with the intermediate group occasionally. That way you can ride with friends and you always have someone to pass. ;D
Real men join the Army. You are a pussy. End of discussion. :P
By the way, if nobody told you today.....Thanks for your Service....Pussy. [evil]
I will give you that about the Army. I did join the "Chair Force." Your welcome. Thanks to all for their service. They guys overseas deserve it more than I. [beer]
When are they sending your buttocks back to Italy? Got any guest quarters? ;D
My report date is Jun '11. That's right around WDW btw. I think I might have to go hang out there for a few days. You are more than welcome there any time. Hopefully everything works out and I'm able to go. I should know in the next few months if the commander accepts me or not.
(thinking out loud) I need to find a way with being comfortable going faster. I know the bike can do it, my technique is decent, I just need to make my brain think I'm going slower than I really am and find a way to trust the tires more. [coffee]
Quote from: crat996 on September 14, 2010, 03:54:52 AM
My report date is Jun '11. That's right around WDW btw. I think I might have to go hang out there for a few days. You are more than welcome there any time. Hopefully everything works out and I'm able to go. I should know in the next few months if the commander accepts me or not.
I had just found a track buddy and here you are running away...On the other side, we have a free place to camp in Italy? ;) Good luck and get back to NM. We need more people come to track...Street is another world and track is where you feel you are back to square one on basics...I'll have to start saving to do a lot of track days next year around US.
Quote from: Ratfink749 on September 14, 2010, 04:41:26 AM
(thinking out loud) I need to find a way with being comfortable going faster. I know the bike can do it, my technique is decent, I just need to make my brain think I'm going slower than I really am and find a way to trust the tires more. [coffee]
That's the hard part, Wayne. The only way I know to get there is by saddle time. [moto]
Only for one brief period in my life did I believe I was fast. In fact, I was twisting the throttle, riding for all I was worth at Road Atlanta wondering just how much faster any sum-biotch on Earth could be, I was so fast. I knew I was the fastest fukker in Georgia that day........then Doug Polen went around the outside of me in turn 6 about 30 miles per hour faster than I was going with my knee on the deck....followed by Scott Russell, Dave Sadowski, Jamie James, and a host of other AMA regulars, all before turn 7....which ain't very far. I then realized that the difference between my fast and their fast is considerable, and that I might never get to their level....and I never have.
You are absolutely correct that fast is mostly in the mind. I, personally, believe that some people are simply able to gather and process information a few nanoseconds quicker than the rest of us, and that those few nanoseconds make the difference between fast and really fast. If you play video games much, you'll run across those same chops in people who can ALWAYS get off a shot a little quicker, or duck a litle faster, or jump a little farther. We can practice, and thereby train our brains to interpret inputs in a more favorable order, and process them to a more favorable outcome, but I'm not sure we can alter the rate at which our brains are wired to work.
I say this not by way of making excuses, but simply because its the only logical solution I've found to the question of what causes the obvious differences in comfort among riders of similar experience. Some call it the "go fast gene". I'm well past lamenting the fact that I have a mediocre version of that gene....I'm just happy that I was granted some degree of this set of skills, which enhance my awareness of true skill so that I can watch in awe, and with humble appreciation, as true practiotioners of the Art of Speed ply their trade.
I'll gladly help any of you reach your personal goals in motorcycling, and in life, if I can, given my meager skill set. That said, there's no replacement for personal experience, and the only way to get that is simply to "DO". Meanwhile, try this:
Find a benchmark. Set a goal. Figure out how to reach that goal. Reach your goal. Reassess. Set a new goal. "Lather. Rinse. Repeat."
As long as you set tough, well defined, reachable, but realistic goals, this simple technique will serve you well for the rest of you life, and in any venture you might leap into.
That's a little more than my two cents,
Cloner
ABQ, NM
[thumbsup] Absolute truth Scott! Thanks for being there and helping us...It helps in many ways and I'm grateful! I'm eager to learn, put more saddle time and get better if not be the best. I have come a long way in the last 3 years and there is so much more to go... [bow_down]
& on that note: I suck at every video game on the planet! Never been into video games...it was always bike, soccer & maybe math.
+1 to Cloner's screed. The goal should always be to get the most out of your ability, no matter what that level is.
I totally agree with Scott about seat time. I try to ride as much as I can. 1 so I can be faster and 2 to get the experience. I do feel I was much faster on the track this past weekend because I was comfortable out there. I just felt good on the bike. It was only the 2nd time on that bike and the 2nd time on that track but it felt good. I knew the track and the lines and I felt like I could just get out there and go. It will be different if they change the configuration on me:) I do feel like I am getting a lot better riding because I have been riding a lot lately. It's the seat time.
Got an email saying I registered for track day at SMRI website...but I didn't have a chance to pay. It shows pending...Not sure if this will happen, depends on tire state...but would love to do another session. When is the NMMR trackday?
JJ,
I can't wait to get out there myself since I couldn't make the last one. We just need some feedback from the NMMR folks to see who is interested and what dates work best...I think I remember that Nic expressed some interest while visiting NM during the first two weeks in October.
Would be nice to have some of our experienced track racers assist us in improving our passion [moto]
Set my schedule today. My only day off is Mondays. Would love to come play.
I can do a Monday. Morning's are preferred, but with October's dropping temperatures I can understand wanting to do one later in the day as well. I can do pretty much any day if it comes down to it, just need a week or so ahead of time to let the boss know.
OK, I guess we need to get something going before we run out of riding season. How would October 4th work for all interested parties? I would need a head count to get a
cost estimate from SMRI.
[thumbsup] for the 4th
Count me in for a trackday on Oct 4. [clap]
I'd be down for that. I was planning on doing the one on the 16th too. As long as the price is reasonable, I am definitely good to go for the 4th.
I'm in for 4th as well...will let the boss know on monday. Yay!
I'm in for the 4th, depending on whether my bike is running.
Anyone else ;D
Any idea on the cost?
If we do 1 1/2 hour like last time, we should be around $ 40 per person. I'll call tomorrow with the head count we have so far and
price a couple of options. If we get more folks to commit I'll see if we can get the track for two hours at the same price.
Quote from: nicrosato on September 18, 2010, 05:27:01 AM
I'm in for the 4th, depending on whether my bike is running.
I'll do all I can to make that happen Nic! [thumbsup]
No pressure, Stu. Things is what they is. I have other issues to deal with (doesn't everyone?).
Quote from: nicrosato on September 21, 2010, 06:49:12 PM
No pressure, Stu. Things is what they is. I have other issues to deal with (doesn't everyone?).
Just know that I haven't forgotten... ;) Will be good to see you again! Take care and good luck w/your issues! (I'll be dealing w/mine...)
Update: It turns out that Monday's are now motorcycle practice days at the cost of $50 for 1/2 day or
$75 per rider for a full day. The action starts at 8:00 A.M and concludes at dusk ~6 P.M.
All you have to do is to show up and fork over the dough and you are good to go.
The usual safety measures apply: leather gear etc. and taping lights and mirrors.
Quote from: Zaster on September 24, 2010, 10:01:50 AM
Update: It turns out that Monday's are now motorcycle practice days at the cost of $50 for 1/2 day or
$75 per rider for a full day. The action starts at 8:00 A.M and concludes at dusk ~6 P.M.
All you have to do is to show up and fork over the dough and you are good to go.
The usual safety measures apply: leather gear etc. and taping lights and mirrors.
Oh nice! So then we'll all gather for a NMMR day/half day at the track then?
Quote from: Zaster on September 24, 2010, 10:01:50 AM
Update: It turns out that Monday's are now motorcycle practice days at the cost of $50 for 1/2 day or
$75 per rider for a full day. The action starts at 8:00 A.M and concludes at dusk ~6 P.M.
All you have to do is to show up and fork over the dough and you are good to go.
The usual safety measures apply: leather gear etc. and taping lights and mirrors.
Interesting! This is great, so no limit on track days! [thumbsup] So, when is the NMMR day, we all show up on 4th at 8am? [clap]
Question on gear: I have a Fieldsheer full-body suit with armor- synthetic, not leather. Is that acceptable?
Quote from: nicrosato on September 24, 2010, 10:51:10 AM
Question on gear: I have a Fieldsheer full-body suit with armor- synthetic, not leather. Is that acceptable?
Page 2 on SMRI guidelines (http://www.smri-racing.org/docs/trackdayguidelines.pdf (http://www.smri-racing.org/docs/trackdayguidelines.pdf)) for the track gears say: "One-piece riding suit in good condition made of leather, Kevlar, Aramid, or Cordura (i.e. Aerostich). Two-piece suits are acceptable as long as the
pants and jackets are joined with zipper(s) to create the equivalent of a one-piece suit."
Footwear and gloves need to be leathers according to it! However for tech inspection you only carry helmet and ride/push the bike...I was in my shorts, T-shirt and bathroom slippers! :P At the pit entrance they don't pay attention to gears...maybe they do... [roll]
Now that I opened my mouth, I'm gonna get it from Cloner! [evil]
All said, guess you should be fine...DON'T PLAN ON CHANGING GEARS AND TOURING OFFROAD! ;D
I've never been to a "practice day" but when we rented the track for the last NMMR trackday nobody checked anything. We suited up, taped up, hit the track, then paid the lady. Since this is an organized "practice day" it may be run differently. Scott, Any input here?
I don't believe SMRI is affiliated with these "practice days" at all, so I have no idea what to expect. Karl, can you call and find out whether or not the track is hosting this?
Either way, for what we're talking about a nonleather (synthetic) riding suit should be fine as long as it zips together around the circumference of your waist.
I doubt they'll have an official tech inspector out there. There will probably be no corner workers and no ambulance, but if the track is putting something on they may have a meatwagon.
JUST BE CAREFUL!!
I can probably make it. I just have to be gone by 1:30 because I have to work that day. I will be there this Mon. too. Steve from MotoAuthority is putting on a practice day too. $50. Call him if you want to go too.
Quote from: Cloner on September 24, 2010, 01:02:18 PM
I don't believe SMRI is affiliated with these "practice days" at all, so I have no idea what to expect. Karl, can you call and find out whether or not the track is hosting this?
Either way, for what we're talking about a nonleather (synthetic) riding suit should be fine as long as it zips together around the circumference of your waist.
I doubt they'll have an official tech inspector out there. There will probably be no corner workers and no ambulance, but if the track is putting something on they may have a meatwagon.
JUST BE CAREFUL!!
The track seems to be hosting this but I'll check with them tomorrow and let you know about the gear and prep work....sounds like we could have a blast at about $10 per hour
Quote from: Zaster on September 24, 2010, 05:28:33 PM
The track seems to be hosting this but I'll check with them tomorrow and let you know about the gear and prep work....sounds like we could have a blast at about $10 per hour
I'll wait on your post Karl to take off on Monday as I need to give a notice to my boss. If there is not much headcount we should just do the Oct16 track day as there are all facilities for a full track experience. The cost is similar 75 to 95. I would do both if I can, but my tires may not last two!
[coffee]
I may be out on this whole thing. Hospital Copay. [bang]
Quote from: Ratfink749 on September 27, 2010, 06:46:37 AM
I may be out on this whole thing. Hospital Copay. [bang]
You can pay that later through freakin Winter! There is no interest and worst come, it wont go into your credit...Screwed up medical system! [evil]
Come to find out....no specific gear or vehicle preparation required....also no EMT.
Since they just started this event, the attendance has been low...2 to 3 riders total.
Post up what you would like to do :)
So, I went the the track today to ride and there were 3 people there including me. Not what I had expected at all. Yeah, it was nice to pretty much have the track to myself but it was not very exciting. I had fun, but as the day went on, my tires really started slipping. I definitely need a new wet before I go out again.
I'm back, fresh off 2 track days at MSR Cresson & a 4 day Texas Hill Country trip, & would love to meet up for 1 or 2 more track days before the season ends. I'll keep an eye on this thread... Thanks for the updates [thumbsup] [moto]
Quote from: crat996 on September 27, 2010, 03:42:20 PM
So, I went the the track today to ride and there were 3 people there including me. Not what I had expected at all. Yeah, it was nice to pretty much have the track to myself but it was not very exciting. I had fun, but as the day went on, my tires really started slipping. I definitely need a new wet before I go out again.
Craig,
You being the only person having done the new practice day and track days, what's your recommendation for the group? ;)
I'll ride Monday, but I don't want to be alone. Anybody else going? JJ? Karl? Anybody???????
Quote from: Cloner on September 28, 2010, 04:58:11 AM
I'll ride Monday, but I don't want to be alone. Anybody else going? JJ? Karl? Anybody???????
I'll ride on Monday Scott...But don't you dare leave me alone...I'll be taking a day off and dragging my $$$ from up North! [moto]
Scott,
I'm in for a Monday Practice Day..... [thumbsup]
I wasn't on your original request list, but I fit into the category of ..."Anybody!"
I'll bring the piece of junk #2, SR500 and also the yellow Honda. The POJ #2 now runs reasonably well, but starting it is a B-i-t-c-h. If necessary, I can do the ever popular and exciting tow start. I do need a second guilty party for the tow vehicle. ...It's the redneck's ....roller starter.
The "Nice" #1, SR500 runs well and starts fine but it is too delicate to associate with the likes of you and the Duck Bunch. So, ... it's the Alley Cat ... #2, SR500 that you will have to deal with. That Aermacchi is in my sights... bring it if you dare....! .....Got the big motor in that puppy yet? [laugh]
I assume the Monday "practice day" is this like a regular track day with the same requirements for taping mirrors, tail lights....and the use of track suits, boots,... etc.
Are you planning for a full day of fun or just a morning blast of the track?
which monday?
Quote from: gratefulduc on September 28, 2010, 11:29:20 AM
which monday?
October 4th, 2010 for practice day...50 Green for half and 75 Green for full day of goofing on track... :P
Quote from: JJ on September 28, 2010, 11:46:27 AM
October 4th, 2010 for practice day...50 Green for half and 75 Green for full day of goofing on track... :P
Ooooh, this is tempting! ...and only 75 large for the day?!?
So, umm, err... anyone in ABQ have sofa space available Sunday night? ;D
Quote from: JJ on September 28, 2010, 11:46:27 AM
October 4th, 2010 for practice day...50 Green for half and 75 Green for full day of goofing on track... :P
when do you need to know by
Quote from: gratefulduc on September 28, 2010, 12:42:06 PM
when do you need to know by
It is pay on track I guess. None of us have paid. Karl's post says this is sponsored by the track (This is not our group event like before)...I'll just carry some cash on Monday. I'm sure they will appreciate any # of entries! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Zaster on September 27, 2010, 05:19:54 PM
Craig,
You being the only person having done the new practice day and track days, what's your recommendation for the group? ;)
I'm not sure what you mean. It would have been a lot more fun if there were other people there.
Quote from: crat996 on September 28, 2010, 02:20:29 PM
I'm not sure what you mean. It would have been a lot more fun if there were other people there.
Good chance I will be there with the Monster.
Ed,
No special clothing requirements or taping, no EMT.
I can rearrange my schedule to make this. It's a long haul for me, so I'd wanna do a full day [moto]
Who def in?
Cloner?
Zaster?
GratefulDuc?
JJ?
Looking forward to meeting everyone [thumbsup]
Right now, my bike is not up to it. I may come down any how to check things out. Perhaps I can grab a ride with one of you as I will have no wheels. I can perform helpful tasks like being the #2 on Ed's Roller Start Team.
Is this an all-day thing? What time do people show up?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on September 29, 2010, 02:43:01 PM
I can rearrange my schedule to make this. It's a long haul for me, so I'd wanna do a full day [moto]
Who def in?
Cloner?
Zaster?
GratefulDuc?
JJ?
Looking forward to meeting everyone [thumbsup]
Scott,
Looking forward to finally meeting and riding with you [moto]
Ed (DucDog) confirmed his appearance as well [thumbsup]
It's all day. I'm gonna be there around 9 (if I get a new tire before the weekend). I have to be at work at 2 so I will have to leave at 1.
Quote from: nicrosato on September 29, 2010, 04:33:25 PM
Right now, my bike is not up to it. I may come down anyhow to check things out. Perhaps I can grab a ride with one of you as I will have no wheels. I can perform helpful tasks like beint the #2 on Ed's Roller Start Team.
Is this an all-day thing? What time do people show up?
Nic,
It starts at 8 AM and ends at sundown for the full day event or around 1 PM for the half day folks.
Either way you will have a ride since Pam will attend in the chase vehicle and she can drop you off anytime you want ;D
Since my 1098 is still out of commission I can't offer you my S4RS as a substitute but you would be perfectly welcome
to take her out on the track while I'm getting rested up or taking a breather ;)
Karl- thanks for the offer. I'll play it by ear. I will be very happy to see you all again and hear the sound of more than one bike.
Of course, my '01 here in NY makes the most beautiful sounds by itself (Termi's).
OK, I'm in! So many questions...
Does the track have shade or should I bring my 12x12 pop-up?
How 'bout electricity for tire warners & fans??
If nobody has room in ABQ for me Sunday night I can stay in Santa Fe.
Anyone want to do HH or dinner Monday night?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on September 30, 2010, 07:11:59 AM
OK, I'm in! So many questions...
Does the track have shade or should I bring my 12x12 pop-up?
How 'bout electricity for tire warners & fans??
If nobody has room in ABQ for me Sunday night I can stay in Santa Fe.
Anyone want to do HH or dinner Monday night?
Bring a pop up if you want shade. There isn't much to be had. I'll need shade, as I intend to ride to the track, so who's bringing shade?
There is some electricity, but you have to be careful where you pit. What do you need tire warmers for? Running slicks?
What the hell is "HH". I'll probably be game for a light meal (as I've already committed to a relatively heavy dinner Tuesday night for DucNight with Nic and whomever else decides to attend).
I'll bring the pop-up, plenty o' shade for all.
HH is the secret code for Happy Hour. A lite meal sounds good. I'll need sustenance before a 3 hour drive home [thumbsup]
Dragon Supercorsas. I've had trouble with them heat-cycling/blueing in the past... Besides, I have brand new tire warmers & I want to use them! ;D
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on September 30, 2010, 08:00:45 AM
I'll bring the pop-up, plenty o' shade for all.
HH is the secret code for Happy Hour. A lite meal sounds good. I'll need sustenance before a 3 hour drive home [thumbsup]
Dragon Supercorsas. I've had trouble with them heat-cycling/blueing in the past... Besides, I have brand new tire warmers & I want to use them! ;D
Send me a PM I have a guest room and you are very welcome
Quote from: gratefulduc on September 30, 2010, 08:52:44 AM
Send me a PM I have a guest room and you are very welcome
Sweeeeet! Now I'm the one that's grateful [thumbsup]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on September 30, 2010, 08:00:45 AM
Dragon Supercorsas. I've had trouble with them heat-cycling/blueing in the past... Besides, I have brand new tire warmers & I want to use them! ;D
I'm running Dragon Supercorsa Pro on front and Pilots on rear...slide few knees...No issues, track is full of quick turns and it is nothing short of a saw blade (rough!!!)..You can cook an egg on the first lap! That being said, please bring the tire warmers and I'll snuggle through the premorning session! ;D
Have a guest room in Santa Fe...you are welcome...The BIG bulldog, lil. chewing "I don't know what I'm dog" and the BIG Oscar may manage to get along with the WILD YOU! [thumbsup]
Just one more important detail...food
Since we are planning on spending a good amount of our time on the track
without having to worry about lunch details, Pam volunteered to bring food from
the feast days in Taos to keep our strength up.
Ed was kind enough to sample it for us in Taos and should be able to give
us a detailed culinary review. If anyone can bring an additional crock pot we should
have the capacity to feed the whole crowd. [thumbsup]
Wow!.......
If Pam is bringing food from the Taos Feast Day, my advice is to look for her car, then immediately pit and turn off your motor. You are about to enter culinary heaven! [bow_down]
Pam and her family can cook up a storm. If you ever get the chance to meet them, you are in for a rare treat. They not only cook like queens but are also great fun to talk to.
For details, see me in the pit area as I stand on my truck and use my binoculars to look for Pam's car coming over the horizon!..... :o
Looks like there might be a teeny bit of rain in the forecast... Is everyone still in?
BTW, y'all are welcome to take the 1098 out Monday while I'm not using it [thumbsup] [moto]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on October 02, 2010, 12:35:45 PM
Looks like there might be a teeny bit of rain in the forecast... Is everyone still in?
BTW, y'all are welcome to take the 1098 out Monday while I'm not using it [thumbsup] [moto]
Hey Scott I haven't seen the forecast but it is so dry here the rain usually evaporates before it hits the ground
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on October 02, 2010, 12:35:45 PM
Looks like there might be a teeny bit of rain in the forecast... Is everyone still in?
BTW, y'all are welcome to take the 1098 out Monday while I'm not using it [thumbsup] [moto]
Did you make it to ABQ?
Hope to ride with you and the local hooligans tomorrow [moto]
I got my tire on Friday and the bike is in the truck. I will be there around 8ish. Steve from MotoAuthority says he'll be there too. He told me that last week but he ended up dirt riding Sun. and being too tired Mon. to come. My buddy from base just got an 1198 will be there minus the 1198. He has a speed triple and will probably be on that.
See ya'll there. [moto]
Quote from: Zaster on October 03, 2010, 07:51:16 PM
Did you make it to ABQ?
Hope to ride with you and the local hooligans tomorrow [moto]
Yep, safe & sound at GratefulDuc's ultra-cool swingin' bachelor pad [thumbsup]
Looking forward to tomorrow!!! ;D [moto]
OMW in a few... Coffee's kickin' in ;D
I've got shade, an extra chair, & a cooler full of water & beer [thumbsup]
[moto] [moto] [moto]
wish i was off so i can come and video u guys :P
hope your having fun and safe
It's 11:30 and I'm still doing chnores around the house. I guess I'm not making it to the track.
Freakin' awesome day!!! It's a fun little track, very technical, with only a few rough spots :o
Very nice meeting everyone [thumbsup]
Thanks to GratefulDuc for the crash pad, & thanks to Karl & Pam for the fabulous lunch, & sticking around not only to ride but also help me pack up.
We'll do it again soon!!! [moto] [beer]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on October 04, 2010, 03:00:53 PM
Freakin' awesome day!!! It's a fun little track, very technical, with only a few rough spots :o
Very nice meeting everyone [thumbsup]
Thanks to GratefulDuc for the crash pad, & thanks to Karl & Pam for the fabulous lunch, & sticking around not only to ride but also help me pack up.
We'll do it again soon!!! [moto] [beer]
+1
What a day [thumbsup] Haven't had this much fun in a long time...pics to follow.
It was a pleasure to hang out with such a distinguished group of folks. Scott, it was great to meet you. Ed, Karl, Craig, JJ, and Pam, I'm glad I got to spend a few minutes with you. Thanks for the Red Chile Stew, Pam!!! The rest of you REALLY missed out. [thumbsup]
And here is the evidence:
Pam's first time ever on a race track [clap]
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/zaster99/Practice%20Day%20Oct%204%20%202010/P1000136.jpg)
A picture of our redneck motorcycle starting system...with Zaster in Ed's truck and Ed on his new race prototype
(I'm glad Ed is a white guy otherwise I might have been accused of a hate crime for dragging him behind his own pick up truck) ;D
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/zaster99/Practice%20Day%20Oct%204%20%202010/P1000130.jpg)
Scott having fun on his SS:
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/zaster99/Practice%20Day%20Oct%204%20%202010/P1000192.jpg)
The other Scott...or maybe going forward known as L'Scott... dragging a knee [clap]
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/zaster99/Practice%20Day%20Oct%204%20%202010/P1000285.jpg)
Craig having fun:
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/zaster99/Practice%20Day%20Oct%204%20%202010/P1000199.jpg)
L'Scott and Zaster having some afternoon fun [thumbsup]
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/zaster99/Practice%20Day%20Oct%204%20%202010/P1000121.jpg)
Thank you Pam for manning the camera and for providing nourishment and support for the gang.
+1 on the great time. I had a blast with everyone. Thanks Pam for the great lunch. I hope we can do it again soon.
[thumbsup] Was perhaps the best day in ages! Satisfied with my progress and it was so much fun hanging around with each one of you! Thanks to Pam for the great lunch and Scott was letting me putter his black beast! Looking forward to getting a new machine for the garage...Cheers!
Sorry I missed it. I tried to get out there but I was too spent after working for 12 hours. Hope I can make the next one, it souds like a good time.
Wish I could've been there.. but.. I got my ticket for the 16th.. Last SMRI track day of the year. Hope to see some of you out there!
Here's some happiness shared out of my practice day. I used the Ducati Data Analyzer available in my bike on the track and recorded few good laps. I started slow and managed to get lap times of 2' 12" (two minute 12 seconds). Through the day after lot of sliding dragging knees, dropped it to 1' 5" 300 and the best lap of 1' 4" 600! I'm not sure if it is best comparing with race times of under one minute to 52" 9 by Ray and rest of the top cream around 55" on expert 1000 class including Troy. I may be comparing apples to oranges. But, hell...I improved like crazy and I'm motivated beyond belief as I left room during practice and can do a lot better! Here's a comparison of my best lap of 1' 4" 600 and 1' 5" 300 runs through an average 1.25 miles course lap I did...Top speed shows 100mph. Cool stuff, eh? Thoughts? [thumbsup]
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm38/joel_jacob/DucatiDataAnalyzerSandia.jpg)
Typically, the club bestows the "expert" title upon any racer who can safely maintain sub 1:00 lap times, so you're damned near an expert racer by SMRI's definition, and without ever turning a wheel in anger. [bow_down]
For reference, my best lap times ever on the fabulous 26 horsepower HD/Aermacchi are just under 1:10....about 5 seconds per lap slower than your 150 horsepower 1098. ;) Corner speeds are higher than most of the modern bikes (simply because the bike doesn't weigh anything), but top speed is only about 80 mph and it takes FOREVER to get there....so the lap times are slow. I read War and Peace during my last trip down the front straight on the HD.
Quote from: Cloner on October 06, 2010, 12:24:28 PM
Typically, the club bestows the "expert" title upon any racer who can safely maintain sub 1:00 lap times, so you're damned near an expert racer by SMRI's definition, and without ever turning a wheel in anger. [bow_down]
For reference, my best lap times ever on the fabulous 26 horsepower HD/Aermacchi are just under 1:10....about 5 seconds per lap slower than your 150 horsepower 1098. ;) Corner speeds are higher than most of the modern bikes (simply because the bike doesn't weigh anything), but top speed is only about 80 mph and it takes FOREVER to get there....so the lap times are slow. I read War and Peace during my last trip down the front straight on the HD.
:P Thanks, I'm gonna try and improve...Just ordered a front tire, lets hope I can manage to pull a track day.
& BTW, don't forget you are Cloner the MASTER, I'm just a newbie...learning... ;D
Quote from: JJ on October 06, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
:P Thanks, I'm gonna try and improve...Just ordered a front tire, lets hope I can manage to pull a track day.
& BTW, don't forget you are Cloner the MASTERbator, I'm just a newbie...learning... ;D
Fixed.
Just wondering... If there's anyone out there that is, or isn't going to be riding at the next track day... That has one of them there fancy schmancy "mount to the gas tank" digital video cameras.. would be willing to let me run a session or two with it stuck on my bike so I can go back and watch how I was doing..?? I could throw in some [beer] or [wine] for your efforts.. Please?
... and Thank-you!
Quote from: Ratfink749 on October 06, 2010, 08:49:17 PM
Just wondering... If there's anyone out there that is, or isn't going to be riding at the next track day... That has one of them there fancy schmancy "mount to the gas tank" digital video cameras.. would be willing to let me run a session or two with it stuck on my bike so I can go back and watch how I was doing..?? I could throw in some [beer] or [wine] for your efforts.. Please?
... and Thank-you!
I'm still trying to decide whether or not to ride or work a corner for this track day, Wayne. Either way, I'm sure we could hammer something out. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Cloner on October 07, 2010, 09:33:18 AM
I'm still trying to decide whether or not to ride or work a corner for this track day, Wayne. Either way, I'm sure we could hammer something out. [thumbsup]
Please ride or stay off the first post!!! [evil] It is the last track day, let's go rock it and prepare for winter in high spirits! [thumbsup]
Quote from: JJ on October 07, 2010, 09:37:06 AM
It is the last track day, let's go rock it and prepare for winter in high spirits! [thumbsup]
This is my exact intention! Only downside.. I'll have to leave just after lunch to attend a wedding in Santa Fe that evening. I'll still get in a good 3-5 sessions though!!
Scott.. Just let me know which hammer I need to bring! I really do appreciate it!
Made my first trip over to the Speedway to check things out and got to watch JJ & Ratfink rip off some laps. Very impressive.
So, another awesome trackday and back in one-piece! [thumbsup] Thanks to Wayne for great company and not sure where the rest disappeared! Thanks to Nick & Barb for coming by and motivating...& to Scott for, well telling Molly how to replace my track bike with a Mini in a PERFECT WAY ;) [clap] ...so I started slow, managed to do 3 intermediate sessions without anyone but one passing me, a cheeseburger and then to expert session. Good thing about expert group, they pass well when they do and usually you have the track to self and no crazy braking & unexpected lines as in Inters! First session I was too scared, had the burger moving around and had 1 minute 5 or 4 lap times wondering when a crazy rider would pass! Got comfortable in the next session doing consistent SAFE 1 minute 3 laps (5 times) and a best lap of 1 minute 2sec 300 and second best of 1 minute 2 sec 400 and third best of 1 minute 2 800! [cheeky] [moto] Unfortunately, the year ends and I need to get back all skills learnt again! :'(
I did find many areas to improve, but had to play wise with my rear tire almost done, riding on sliding limits..If I had a race engineer, I would tell him/her- I need to change gear ratios, play a little suspension and mostly get me more traction (slicks ;D), so I could open throttle faster in the turn than I did because I was 200% certain I would FLY off the bike; apart from of course the fact that my beautiful degrading Tricolore can use spare fairings...All I can say to ALL is, track days are unlimited wealth of EXPERIENCE! Here's my two best 1'2"300 and 1'2"400 laps (turn #s may be understood wrong). What say you WISE folks? :-\
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm38/joel_jacob/12laps.jpg)
Sorry that we couldn't be out there to support you and Wayne.
Pam made me play a round of golf with her and our ex-neighbor on
Friday and Saturday who was visiting [clap]...and if I wasn't sore enough after that...the Taos run
on Sunday took care of that ;D
It was a great 4 sessions I road. I stayed conservative and didn't do anything stupid. I have some great video of JJ passing me like I'm standing still. (I think I was about 10 seconds behind his pace per lap). Thank-you Scott for allowing me to borrow and use your video camera. Thank-you Nick and family for stopping by and visiting for a while, and Thank's JJ and Molly for the great trackside company during the day! I had a swiss-army backpack full of tools, water, food, and whatever else I could think of except for one important thing: Sunscreen. I'm a little red now.. but all told I had a great day and I'm already looking forward to the next one next year!
Sure Wayne! Anytime! Pace is one thing and passing another...Wayne is one tough mark to pass...& the 749 throttle response is similar to my bike...I was worried I would pile up on him trying...Did you have a good wedding?
Quote from: JJ on October 17, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
Did you have a good wedding?
Wedding was great! Got there on time, it was at the Fort Marcy Lodge/Compound. After all of the track time then the drive up, I was ready for a nap. But we had a lot of fun and my friend was successfully married. Even being worn out we ended up having a great time and got back home at 11:30.
I'm glad everyone had a good day at the track Saturday, and an excellent ride to Taos on Sunday.
The final race of my season ended poorly as I made an incorrect jetting decision and the bike ran so poorly I pulled in. Those of you who saw the first race of the season know how poorly it'd have to be to get me to pull off, so I'll leave it to your imagination how bad it was. To compound that frustration, Brian Robertson wadded badly in turn two as I was about to leave and hit his head pretty hard. We finally talked him into a ride to the hospital (on his part mostly to look at his shoulder, but I was more interested in the CT scan as he was acting pretty funny), so I loaded him up and took him to Lovelace and sat with him whilst the Doctors poked, prodded, and finally declared him fit for duty. Those of you who rode at the track day might recognize Brian as control rider #242 on the blue GSX-R 600.
I sure hope next season starts better than this one ended. [bang]
I also hope this BEAUTIFUL weather holds out for another week or twenty. I'd sure like to go for a relaxing ride sometime soon. [moto]
Quote from: Cloner on October 18, 2010, 08:10:49 AM
I'm glad everyone had a good day at the track Saturday, and an excellent ride to Taos on Sunday.
The final race of my season ended poorly as I made an incorrect jetting decision and the bike ran so poorly I pulled in. Those of you who saw the first race of the season know how poorly it'd have to be to get me to pull off, so I'll leave it to your imagination how bad it was. To compound that frustration, Brian Robertson wadded badly in turn two as I was about to leave and hit his head pretty hard. We finally talked him into a ride to the hospital (on his part mostly to look at his shoulder, but I was more interested in the CT scan as he was acting pretty funny), so I loaded him up and took him to Lovelace and sat with him whilst the Doctors poked, prodded, and finally declared him fit for duty. Those of you who rode at the track day might recognize Brian as control rider #242 on the blue GSX-R 600.
I sure hope next season starts better than this one ended. [bang]
I also hope this BEAUTIFUL weather holds out for another week or twenty. I'd sure like to go for a relaxing ride sometime soon. [moto]
Sorry Scott, I can imagine how disappointing it must have been! :-\ I'm sure next season will be awesome...For one, you will have company! [moto] I'm also sorry about Brian...I did see him help us out as the control rider...We are so much on the limits there, but allowing some room helps and I'm glad I rode with my head this track day and still gained enough.
As for season, there is lot more riding left up north...so don't worry...Lets do the long day ride through Taos, Black lake, Angel fire...the coming weekend...if all is well.
Mental note....Got to do more track practice this year ;)
This video made me think of the fun we had last year:
Assen onboard Qualifying (sorry starts after 37sec black screen) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxjRwEpwikc&feature=related#normal)
That 1190RR Buell is kicking some serious butt [thumbsup]
Quote from: Zaster on February 22, 2011, 05:55:21 PM
Mental note....Got to do more track practice this year ;)
I'm in [thumbsup] [moto] ;D
+1 on that^^^! April needs to hurry up and get here fast. I'm ready to ride.
So there is a track day down at Arroyo Seco next weekend and I was thinking about going. I only have 3 more months here and would like to do a couple days before I head out. Is it worth the 4hr drive down there? From what I have heard, it's a decent track. Is it worth the 4hr drive tho?
Depends on what time is worth I figure. but the track, It's a big fast track & I love it. You'll be able to use more than 2nd gear on your bike there. Also some very technical corners.
Have had zero time to even think about a track day in some time, but last time I went I was riding a 999s & had a blast.
Liter bike goodness...for NM
Who's riding this Sunday track day? Scott- riding or waving? Ed, Karl, Wayne, others?!
Quote from: JJ on June 02, 2011, 07:39:42 PM
Who's riding this Sunday track day? Scott- riding or waving? Ed, Karl, Wayne, others?!
This is the first I heard of it. Are you riding?
[Dolph] want to real bad, missed all previous ones! It would be nice to have some company... :P Good price at 75 at Motoauthority.
[thumbsup]
I'll be fulfilling my role as Chief Corner Marshal for the trackday. I hope many of you can make it! This event will be in the new configuration, so you can do something new if you haven't ridden this course, yet.
Once again, you can go to the SMRI website at
http://www.smri-racing.org/season/view.php (http://www.smri-racing.org/season/view.php)
for the whole year's schedule of trackday and racing events.
After the June 5th event, the next trackday is July 10th in the standard configuration (the site says new config, but Sandia BMW demands that it be the standard config, and since they're the sponsor they get what they want!).
I'll try to remember to post something two weeks prior to each of the season's remaining trackday and race events.
BTW, if you're not going 'cause you can't afford it, I can pay you $50 to come out and work as a corner marshal at trackday or race events. That covers 2/3 of the cost of a trackday if you buy your ticket from the event sponsor. So far this year, we've been short of corner marshals on a couple of occasions so we could use the help!
Quote from: Cloner on June 03, 2011, 08:04:23 AM
I'll be fulfilling my role as Chief Corner Marshal for the trackday. I hope many of you can make it! This event will be in the new configuration, so you can do something new if you haven't ridden this course, yet.
BTW, if you're not going 'cause you can't afford it, I can pay you $50 to come out and work as a corner marshal at trackday or race events. That covers 2/3 of the cost of a trackday if you buy your ticket from the event sponsor. So far this year, we've been short of corner marshals on a couple of occasions so we could use the help!
I registered for track day this weekend, but still need to swing by Moto Authority to pick a ticket on Saturday.
Scott- I can do corner work on race day as I won't my Aermacchi ready I guess...! :'( Will update as we go...But, I plan to do all track days if I'm in town! C'mmon folks, line up and do track days...no better learning! [Dolph]
Quote from: JJ on June 03, 2011, 10:31:35 AM
I registered for track day this weekend, but still need to swing by Moto Authority to pick a ticket on Saturday.
Scott- I can do corner work on race day as I won't my Aermacchi ready I guess...! :'( Will update as we go...But, I plan to do all track days if I'm in town! C'mmon folks, line up and do track days...no better learning! [Dolph]
Steve will be at the trackday, so if you'll call him I'm sure he'll bring your ticket to the track. You don't need it to get through the gate, just at registration.
Does that mean I should write you in as a corner marshal for the 26th? If we thrash it we could probably get the Aermacchi rideable for a few hundred bucks before the 26th if Ron can weld up a manifold. That and controls are the major problems now.....and fork tubes.....and fork seals....I think that's it.
Quote from: Cloner on June 03, 2011, 12:09:56 PM
Steve will be at the trackday, so if you'll call him I'm sure he'll bring your ticket to the track. You don't need it to get through the gate, just at registration.
Does that mean I should write you in as a corner marshal for the 26th? If we thrash it we could probably get the Aermacchi rideable for a few hundred bucks before the 26th if Ron can weld up a manifold. That and controls are the major problems now.....and fork tubes.....and fork seals....I think that's it.
YOU ARE PLAIN MEAN!!!! [evil] [bang]
OK, I'll call Ron today...I'll confirm corner work this track day. I'll do it if I'm not racing, promise. [thumbsup]
I'll be there for the trackday. The last one got canx'd for wind so I'm excited to get out there.
Not my best trackday, but survived it and enjoyed a bit...good reminder I need to drop few pounds and get back to fitness. Two riders blew it in front of my eyes! ??? 16 bottles of water, 3 liters of Gatorade and 2 EmergenC- HEAT! Crazy stunt show! Street tires and expert class meant muscle tussle into apex and some not so nice encounters with not so clean passes- control rider included. The carbon got quite some attention...so much so that a control rider wanted to leave a gash on my poor right fairing with his foot peg! :'( Kept the bike up and barely managed to make it to SF...that's what matters! I need some $ and few upgrades real bad!!! [Dolph]
Was nice to see Scott, Craig and few others...!
Kathy (MotoAuthority and Karl's help!) did an awesome job on my suit zipper (blew on a high speed pass) and delivered it to track at 7am on half day notice! I now have a FAT FAT YKK zipper capable of top speed...My old torn suit is at her mercy currently as well...For any that crash or need leather help, you wont find a better help! PM me for number or contact Steve at MotoAuthority.
Quote from: JJ on June 06, 2011, 10:11:57 AM
...good reminder I need to drop few pounds and get back to fitness
Same here...that's why I did not do it. I got sore just from doing two Crest runs [roll]
Glad you and your bike made it back in one piece [clap]
Track day this Sunday, July 10th, hosted by Sandia BMW. Come on out and ride, or volunteer as a corner marshal!
Sandia BMW is selling their track day tickets for $65 by the way, as opposed to the $75. I'll be there. [Dolph]
Silly question, but when is a good time to show up at the track? I guess there's a class or something for Newbies like myself in the morning to go over track rules and stuff like that? Can't really find anything on the website.
Quote from: DonJuanDucati on July 09, 2011, 01:10:26 PM
Silly question, but when is a good time to show up at the track? I guess there's a class or something for Newbies like myself in the morning to go over track rules and stuff like that? Can't really find anything on the website.
Be there by 7:00 - 7:30am for the best spot on pit and first spot on tech inspection...the riders meeting follows around 8 or so followed by the new track rider school...where they tell u that u can hopefully go back home in one piece if u listen...sorry cant make it...have a blast...ride to ur limits. Cheers! U will do just fine.
Have fun at the track day boys and be sure to get some video or pics
Had lots of fun at the track today, gained a lot of confidence in the bike and ended up scraping bits off my gear shifter and quite a lot off of my right peg. :-X I saw Jim out there, and Ed and Scott were working corners. Really hot being out like that all day, went through 6 bottles of water and a large bottle of Gatorade. Sorry, didn't take any pictures or video. Maybe next time I'll try to get my hands on a helmet cam.
You looked smooth and confident out there, Caleb. I considered bumping you to Intermediate several times, but after your group thinned out after lunch it looked like you'd actually get more clear track time where you were. You were definitely the quickest rider in the beginner group at the end of the day, and several of the control riders commented on how smoothly you rode when I spoke with them after the event. You should definitely register as an intermediate next time.
It was good to see you, Jim, Ed, Walker, and all the other folks out for another track day!
Yeah, right after we finished up one of the control riders told me that I should register as intermediate next time. I figure it was good that I got to stay in the beginner group though the entire day, however. Right up until the end I was still figuring out where I could go faster or maybe cut into a turn differently, especially after lunch when we had a bit more space, as you said. Can't wait for the next track day! [thumbsup]
This note got a little long, so if you are in a hurry, please just skip it and move on. [coffee]
My recent experience as a corner worker for this past Sunday’s Track Day just got me thinking and writing…...
I worked corner #1 in the North Hair Pin area for this past Track Day. It was a great experience being part of the track control group, working to keep the track safe and watching the lines that riders took on the track.
Thanks, to Scott for his good management of the corner working crew and for putting up with my learning curve as I figured out how to work with the flags, radio, control riders, track status feedback and many other things that I had previously not considered as a rider. …..My apologies to the control riders and other on the track control team for my fumbling, bumbling start. I hope that I got better.
It was a great day also from the standpoint that no rider got an ambulance ride. There was some scratched plastic and funny words mumbled as riders made mistakes and got off in the dirt. But as far as I know, there were no serious injuries.
Here are some things that I learned: [coffee]
The North Hair Pin area of the track requires as much respect as the South Hair Pin. There were lots of "incidents" in this part of the course.
In the morning there were many more “off road excursions†than in the afternoon. Part of this seems to be the pressure of adrenaline, ego, friends, larger riding groups and the rider expectations of themselves. Too often these influences resulted in some riders pushing too far and too fast beyond their personal learning rates.
It is a good idea to work up in speed range only at the rate that you really can really absorb it. If you start making mistakes, then back off. Your mind is now operating slower than the speed of your bike. Don’t let your ego write a check that your brain can’t cash…..It’s no shame to go slower and think about what happened, find a better line, better speed or different control inputs to the bike.
One good example was Caleb, who took it easy, worked up slowly, stayed in control and learned a lot.
In the afternoon, the mistakes seemed to be more related to riders being tired or not properly hydrated. It’s hot out there and you use water to run your personal engine like your bike uses gasoline to run its engine. If you feel tired or sluggish; rest, skip a session, look for shade and get water.
There were some beginning riders that were very slow, but to their credit they were out there and learning. [Dolph] Some stuck it out and worked at it all day….Good for them…. I could see their lines improving and even their speed improving…
Some of the advanced riders were scary fast….I have great respect for their personal control, ability to direct their motorcycles and read the track. Most of the advanced riders were very consistent, especially the racer guys. They were taking good track lines, with consistent times, and deep lean angles all day.……
…….One rider in particular kept me on edge all day. :o He was damn fast and as he approached my corner, he braked so hard with both front and rear brakes that I could hear his tires howling….right on the edge, ….every corner, ….every time, ….all day…. really, really good, [bow_down] ....but he also scared the crap out of me all day…
There is a corner worker’s manual for SMRI at:
http://www.smri-racing.org/docs/Corner_Workers_Manual.pdf (http://www.smri-racing.org/docs/Corner_Workers_Manual.pdf)
Some key ideas in the manual are “…..stay calmâ€, “report in on the radio†and “get the correct flag out and wave it†…..Well, I broke all those rules in the first 15 minutes. “….rider down, I shouted into the radio…. Then I realized that you have to push the damn button to talk…So, I repeated my self. ….Where is the rider?… came back the reply….North Hair Pin…I shouted……and so it went as I fumbled my way along..… [bang] â€Sh*tâ€, I said to myself as I realized what a poor job I was doing. …I vowed to do better….
It only took a few more minutes until I got to test my skills again….Better this time, I thought… but not good enough. Eventually, I improved, but I’m sure that I tried the patience of all who heard me on the radio…. To them, I apologize. …..There is significant skill involved in doing this job right, just as there are many skills in riding well.
Doing the corner worker’s job well also tests your own endurance. :P It is hot, and Turn #1 requires 360 degree coverage. Owls would do well here with their 270 degree head swivels. I just had to walk and turn in circles all day. I had never walked 8 miles inside a 4 foot square on a tower before…. But, I did not get bored…There just was too much to watch and do. Scott’s tower was even tougher. He had no shade, just as much action and had to manage the rest of us as well. 8)
Track days are wonderful learning opportunities for people on the track or in the corners. I hope that many of you will take time to be part of both experiences.
Thanks again to Scott for the opportunity. [thumbsup]
Thanks to all for listening…..
-Ed
Ed.....you didn't do as poorly as you're beating yourself up for. ;) Thank you for coming out and supporting SMRI as you did. You learned more than most from your experience in turn 1, so good on you for reflecting on that experience and trying to help others understand what you saw and what you learned. Your "stay calm" note works for both corner workers and riders!
The rider you noted was 611, Daryl Wickern. He's pretty doggone fast, but you haven't seen the business until you've seen Kelcey Walker or Mikey Shreve scream into those corners with the back hung out half a foot or more. It's humbling to see what fast really looks like.
Thanks, again, to everyone who worked or rode at our track day. We really appreciate your support of SMRI and motorcycle racing and track days in Albuquerque! [thumbsup]
25hrs later I just finished this novel (But I went to school in Taos, so, take it for what it's worth). :-[
Glad all came home in one piece, again. My racing (human powered) doesn't give me the chance to get to the track right now,but very much enjoy the stories here.
Ride hard. Ride safe.
See ya' down the road.
Already got my ticket for the next track day. Who's going for the 9th of October? [Dolph]
I hope everyone who enjoys track days in Albuquerque will get out for the October 9th event, and bring a friend! SMRI have lost money on EVERY track day event we've run this year with the exception of the one hosted by Sandia BMW (because they buy ALL the tickets and give most of 'em away via sponsorship by BMW corporate), which means changes are in order!
At the very least a fee increase is likely in 2011, and that's likely to be accompanied by structural and schedule changes, as well. The causes of the losses are three-fold. We started out the year badly with two dates of poor weather...one of near 30 degree cold, the second of rain.....both of which resulted in cancellations. However, in both events some people rode so the costs of the track, insurance, etc. had to be absorbed by the club (if one bike goes on the track we're on the hook!). Second, the track went up significantly on its fees this year for track rental, per-bike-fee (they charge us a flat rate plus a fee for each bike), and event insurance. Finally, our attendance has been abysmal. Added together, these factors mean the club lost its collective ass on track days this year.
We (the SMRI executive committee) are currently discussing how we can return our track days to profitability. To that end, I'd like to ask those of you who've been to our track days, what we can do to make them better for you? More contact with instructors? Fewer, more, or no defined groups? Classroom instruction on some of the finer points of riding fast? Better equipment rental system? Help with bike prep? Better advertisement of dates? What can we do to make you WANT to come out more often?
I'd also like to ask those of you who HAVEN'T been out, "What can we do to get you to a track day?" What's it gonna take to get you on the track? I can fairly guarantee that once you come out you'll be hooked....so what's it gonna take? A free half day? A special group for track day newbies? A Guided parade lap of the track at a moderate pace to demonstrate that it's just a road that makes a loop....on your bike, of course.....in your normal gear (nothing special....long pants, shoes over the ankles, jacket, gloves, helmet)...with no special prep at all....would that do it? Begging? Would just plain old-fashioned begging work. If so....I'm BEGGING you to come out for a track day!!!
OK....with that said.....I'll be at Barber Vintage Festival for the largest gathering of Ducati freaks ever held in the western hemisphere on October 9th, so I won't be at the track. However, lots of other good people will, and they'd love to see you!
I'll be there on the 9th. I stopped by Moto Authority yesterday and got my ticket. My track attendance was definitely down this year but Babies apparently kill your time and money.. (Who knew?) I'm still addicted to riding track days. For me the only thing that would make it better (apart from having a dedicated track bike) would be further instruction. Not necessarily full-on California Superbikes School classes, but I'd love to get some hints and find ways to improve my confidence while riding out there. For whatever its worth.. If I could have done all of the track days this year, I certainly would have!
One thing that might attract new people is offer one or two laps free for new comers, where they get to check out the track, see that it's not all that scary, and then if they like it, they can purchase a ticket on site at a discount to ride the rest of the day. If you advertise this, it may help belay the fears that a lot of people might have about going to a track day. Chief among them is they don't want to spend all that money on a ticket only to find out after their first lap that it really isn't for them. Also setting aside a section of the pits for first timers to gather and talk may be good to help break people into the community nice and easy, and have some veteran volunteers go over to help with bike prep and answer questions about the track. Make sure this information is very easily available, and maybe even make posters aimed directly at first timers. Information on them like: Hands on instruction for bike prep, ride at your own pace, first two laps free, if you don't like it you don't have to pay, etc. Also try reaching out to some of the more outside dealers, like New Mexico Motorsports in Los Lunas and Westside Honda. I don't think I've ever seen a poster or advertisement at Westside Honda, and they have a fairly big clientele.
Another big thing may be offering half day tickets. I don't know if you already do this, but it may help bring in even more people, especially those that have something to do early in the morning or afternoon and don't want to pay for a full day pass. Also in July, a load of people left after lunch due to the heat, more people may show up during the summer if they can pay for just a morning session.
Scott,
I did a track day and two Monday practice days since I decided to buy and learn how to ride SB's.
The track day was in July 2008 and I only lasted until 2 P.M. due to the excessive heat. Being a beginner I received instructions
as to the basic track rules, bike prep etc. and was let loose on the track.
The Monday practice days seemed to be the better learning experience since I could ride as long or as little as I
felt comfortable with. Being able to ask talented riders to follow you and to lead you around the track showing you the perfect lines and
giving you pointers was priceless. It really helped me start gaining more confidence in my bike's capabilities and to start pushing it a little harder.
Most people who haven't done a track day have a preconceived vision of hanging with a bunch of guys who just want to haul ass
around a race track while trying to outdo each other.
To attract new customers, the event should be marketed as a skill improvement opportunity and structured accordingly.
Once they get a comfort level and want to continue to improve their riding skills they are hooked and you have a repeat customer.
I almost forgot, having Ed start his "How to buy and build your own track bike" class wouldn't hurt either.
Karl,
I don’t know if I can teach a class about how to begin racing, but I have slowly figured out some of the major steps in the process.
--Go to motorcycle races to see Scott race. Visit his pit area. (Wife is unaware of dangerous friends.) [evil]
--Get wildly stupid idea that you can do this too. (Wife is well aware of my history of impulsive, dangerous and stupid ideas, but unaware of the latest decision.)
--Consult with Scott and Stu. Now, multiply the wild idea by a factor of three. ;D
--"Accidently†buy several motorcycles that fit the race class you have blindly chosen. (Wife is now aware of idea and unhappy!)
--Sell the motorcycles that seem unlikely to win any races. (Wife is happy!) :-*
--Spend goverment deficit scale of money and black hole quantities of time building, riding and developing the one bike that was kept. (Wife steadily moves into the unhappy zone!)
--Ride the race bike like your tail is on fire at every opportunity. Bike parts regularly break and get modified, the neighbors hate you, the police are looking for you, the track mgmt. sees you often and loves your money and….hopefully, you get better…. (Wife is totally unaware that this is going on.) [roll]
--Get a little bit better at riding on the track, get very lucky, and win some races. (Wife now genuinely worried and wants you to quit racing while you still have some bones which are not yet broken and a few helmets that don't yet have lurid scrape marks on both sides.) :o
--Keep working, developing, fixing broken parts, and winning. Eventually, win the class title. (Now, the other racers in the class are unhappy! They are certain that you cheated.)
--Retire to a lovely, bluegrass farm in Kentucky… Hopefully, to collect large, stud fees…. 8) (Wife discovers and vetoes this new plan… She points out that you are not a race horse!) [thumbsdown]
--Ed
(Note:….The comments above are intended as race humor and don’t apply to Track Days. Track Days have all the fun of spirited riding without the blood, sweat, money and time required by racing. I will separately post some thoughts about how to improve the Track Day and Race Day experiences.)
Warning: This is a very long post, so if the topic is not of interest, feel free to move along. "… these are not the Droids that you are looking for…..†- Obi-Wan Kenobi/Star Wars.
How I became a Track Junkie":
Scott, I started my track addiction when I came to watch you race. You made it look easy and fun. I didn’t find out until later that racing was just a bit more complicated….. However, my early observation leads me to believe that personal interactions with the racers are good for promoting both Track Days as well as Racing.
The Parade Lap idea expanded:
The best time to have the Parade Lap of beginners, race watchers, …etc. may be during the Race Day lunch hour. This would not slow the racing schedule for more than 15 minutes out of the lunch time.
A Parade Lap for race watchers would contribute to their enjoyment by helping them understand what the far side of the track really looks like. Sandia has a very poor location for its grandstands. It is very hard to see what is happening on the far side of the track. I think this greatly contributes to small crowds.
On Track Days consider a “free†parade lap, or maybe 2 or 3 laps. As others have said, this should be effective at taking away the apprehension of riding on a real race track. After this Parade Session, offer first time riders a discounted ticket that would come with a brief track school talk. SMRI already offers inexpensive track suit rentals. Offer/Sell “Blue Painter’s Tape†to these riders as well. Anything that lowers the barrier of that first decision to ride on the track, would be helpful.
Of course, the parade lap riders would get the standard “no stunting or goofing off†speech before the ride and be guided front, middle and back by “highly visible control riders†to show the race line and keep chaos at bay.
Race and Track day General Promotion:
As others have mentioned, the promotion of motorcycle racing and track days is poor. Could SMRI afford an ad in the Motorcycles for Sale classifieds section of the paper? How about a small ad in the Sports section of the paper? Would the paper be willing to donate ad space? As others have pointed out, it might help to post flyers, even simple ones, at key dealerships with high walk-in traffic. These could be sent by mail or delivered in person.
Dealer Involvement:
Would it help to have a group of two or three Executive Committee members or other SMRI representatives make appointments and visit larger, motorcycle store owners, and sales/service mangers? If done in the Santa Fe, Bernalillo to Belen corridor, would it generate support and ideas? If this were done in January and February, there would be lots of time to stand around on empty show room floors and chat.
Would dealers like to bring some of their new bikes to the track and talk to prospective buyers? Not all the bikes would need to be sport bikes. Cruisers, adventure and sport touring bikes would also be of interest to the race watching public. This could start as a free promotion and if popular and helpful, maybe it could generate a small fee or donation to SMRI.
Warning: This is a second, very long post, so if the topic is not of interest, feel free to move along. "… these are not the Droids that you are looking for…..†- Obi-Wan Kenobi/Star Wars.
Continued.......
Ask a Track Expert:
Could SMRI erect an EZ-UP on race days and have a personable, track expert or two (male and/or female) that could answer questions about racing, track days, motorcycles….or whatever? Put up an “Ask the Expert†sign there too. This opportunity would be highly visible, if located just across from the entrance to the grandstands and near Tech Inspection. It could be manned in one hour intervals during the day to avoid burn-out. (By the way, EZ-UP is a deluxe oxymoron. The damn things are hard put up even on a calm day. On windy days, this is a real exciting event!)
What if the winning riders from each, just completed, race stopped their bikes at this “Ask the Expert†location. They could pull off their sweaty helmets, take a long drink of cold milk and answer questions from the crowd for 5-10 minutes. This could be a rolling, constantly changing, public interview of the winning riders. It might be similar to what’s shown these days on TV. It would be an exciting, live, in-person experience for race fans. These fans are currently reluctant to walk around and interrupt racers working on their bikes in the far reaches of the pits. More racer face time for the public generates more fans… ask NASCAR.
Track Day Formats:
The beginner sessions seem OK.
It appears that the expert sessions of track days are truly for experts and anyone who ventures there risks being strafed by rocketing riders. This pushes even experienced riders into the intermediate sessions.
The intermediate sessions are crowded. This group is populated by two kinds of riders, those moving up from the beginner sessions and those who have lots of experience, but don’t want to ride in the expert session. This last group may not want to ride in the expert session because their track bike is older, smaller or not as highly developed as the expert bikes and therefore not as fast.
Perhaps the intermediate session could be split into two sessions that might be called “Advanced†and “Intermediateâ€. This would steer newer riders to the next level above “Beginnerâ€, which would still be called “Intermediateâ€. Doing this would separate these bobbing, weaving, newer riders from being mixed in with the faster, more experienced riders who belong in a newly created, “Advanced†group. This strategy would create four groups “Expert, Advanced, Intermediate and Beginnerâ€. (By the way, use what ever session names that you like which indicate the division of skill into four groups.)
Splitting the intermediate session would create one more session that would need to be added to the schedule. But doing so would offer a much better and safer experience for a majority of riders. Later in the Track Day, when attendance typically goes down and the groups get smaller, combine the Expert and Advanced groups or the Advanced and Intermediate groups… etc.
Hopefully this long post contains a few helpful ideas.
Ed Kist
…..Now that I have blabbed on endlessly, how about hearing from others. There are lots of good ideas yet to be offered…..
Quote from: DucDog on September 18, 2011, 11:10:04 PM
Karl,
I don’t know if I can teach a class about how to begin racing, but I have slowly figured out some of the major steps in the process.
--Go to motorcycle races to see Scott race. Visit his pit area. (Wife is unaware of dangerous friends.) [evil]
--Get wildly stupid idea that you can do this too. (Wife is well aware of my history of impulsive, dangerous and stupid ideas, but unaware of the latest decision.)
--Consult with Scott and Stu. Now, multiply the wild idea by a factor of three. ;D
--"Accidently†buy several motorcycles that fit the race class you have blindly chosen. (Wife is now aware of idea and unhappy!)
--Sell the motorcycles that seem unlikely to win any races. (Wife is happy!) :-*
--Spend goverment deficit scale of money and black hole quantities of time building, riding and developing the one bike that was kept. (Wife steadily moves into the unhappy zone!)
--Ride the race bike like your tail is on fire at every opportunity. Bike parts regularly break and get modified, the neighbors hate you, the police are looking for you, the track mgmt. sees you often and loves your money and….hopefully, you get better…. (Wife is totally unaware that this is going on.) [roll]
--Get a little bit better at riding on the track, get very lucky, and win some races. (Wife now genuinely worried and wants you to quit racing while you still have some bones which are not yet broken and a few helmets that don't yet have lurid scrape marks on both sides.) :o
--Keep working, developing, fixing broken parts, and winning. Eventually, win the class title. (Now, the other racers in the class are unhappy! They are certain that you cheated.)
--Retire to a lovely, bluegrass farm in Kentucky… Hopefully, to collect large, stud fees…. 8) (Wife discovers and vetoes this new plan… She points out that you are not a race horse!) [thumbsdown]
--Ed
(Note:….The comments above are intended as racing humor and don’t apply to Track Days. Track Days have all the fun of spirited riding without the blood, sweat, money and time required by racing. I will separately post some thoughts about how to improve the Track Day and Race Day experiences.)
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My day in pictures:
Ready to go at 7:00 AM
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Keri planted herself firmly at the last corner of the track and balanced watching Michael and taking some pictures for me.
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Michael did extremely well. The only bike that even phased him was a full open pipe vintage bike. Otherwise it was just another day in the world for him.
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Yes.. That's a playpen and stroller in my pit...
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I was nowhere near the beginning of the line for Teching' in... but they gave me a #1 on my tape. No pressure.
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.... And yes.. I'm bringing sexy back, and Shufflin'.. Every day.
Nice picture show!!! Thanks for sharing [thumbsup]
It was great trackday and it was simply motivating! [thumbsup] I'll start with the company- Caleb and Wayne & co were there from NMMR side...Molly came over to take some fantastic high speed manual shots! My data analyzer kept motivating me...almost killing me would be the right description...there were few control riders and corner marshals and few track fellas who had their eyes full of ice hockey! ;)
KARL -- Remember you wanted me to keep keep track of my new tire mileage...you may want to reconsider...my Pirellis at 400miles are 70% done on sides! :P
Caleb the great Scrubbed not just his pegs half way...he showed us how to change shoe styles from round style to Italian pointers...lucky to have few toes!!! Here's him on corner 7:
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Video of Caleb going by:
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Wayne and wanna be racer Michael:
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As of me, few pics coming soon...heres my trackday achievement...I had a goal to break the minute barrier..but I was short! :-\ After about over 60-70 laps my last session dropped from last years best of 1'2"300 to 1'1'800 to final session best of 1'0"800. I know I have room to improve, but my tires couldn't do any better and after few crazy slides...slides where you feel both wheels were on ice sidewise...I took late braking approach...the improvement was worth it! Here's the last two times:
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Videos are taking an eternity to upload, I think Comcast is throttling my connection - already uploaded about 3gigs of video to youtube tonight and uploading the last bit of video when JJ used my camera has ground to a halt. I'll see how far along the video comes by tomorrow morning, but I gotta get some sleep. Oh and JJ, I'm not great, just really loud apparently, listening to that video. [laugh]
Great photos, Wayne. Michael obviously takes after his mother.
SMRI Track Day Intermediate Session - Butt Cam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN8GAtrcnYc#)
One of my sessions earlier in the day
SMRI October Track Day - Intermediate Session (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1NxwJ0Fh0Y#)
Later in the day
SMRI October Track Day - JJ's Expert Session (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZXrCLQTfPc#)
JJ's last session
[thumbsup] Great! I know that was painful...but you made my train ride this evening...Cant wait to watch! [thumbsup] [bow_down]
Quote from: nicrosato on October 11, 2011, 08:05:33 AM
Great photos, Wayne. Michael obviously takes after his mother.
Eh? ???
Quote from: JJ on October 11, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
[thumbsup] Great! I know that was painful...but you made my train ride this evening...Cant wait to watch! [thumbsup] [bow_down]
When I went to sleep last night Youtube was telling me that I still had 1800 minutes to upload your video! Fortunately it was uploaded by the time I woke up, which I think means my upload speed must have opened up during the night. Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks for posting this guys [thumbsup]
Was very interesting to follow your lines and to see your approach angles [clap]
Don't look at my lines, they're embarrassing. That said, I'm glad I filmed it, cause it's always easier to fix yourself when you watch it after the fact. Anyone want to reserve the track some time? I'm eager already to try and shave some time off my laps, and I don't want to wait til spring. [Dolph]
We need to do a Monday practice day in the very near future...$50 for half day....$75 for a full day
Quote from: Zaster on October 11, 2011, 08:13:06 PM
We need to do a Monday practice day in the very near future...$50 for half day....$75 for a full day
In!!! [Dolph]
I have a class at 2pm that I absolutely can't get out of. Stupid military. >:( Maybe I can do a morning half day.
Well guys, look what I found for sale on http://www.motofoto.ifp3.com (http://www.motofoto.ifp3.com)
Gotta say, we look pretty damn good out there! [thumbsup]
Ratfink:
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JJ:
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Myself:
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Gotta love my open visor! [laugh]
There's quite a few more of each of us on the website if yous wanna take a look.
Quote from: DonJuanDucati on October 11, 2011, 08:58:29 PM
I have a class at 2pm that I absolutely can't get out of. Stupid military. >:( Maybe I can do a morning half day.
You will get your money's worth even for a half day event..do it [thumbsup]
Well, I didn't really need much convincing, so I'll go! [laugh]
[Dolph]
DJD, You are simply a genius! [bow_down] The pics look great and the video was awesome to follow, didn't give me a sense of lean, but following Luis after time 9:37, it was fun to watch till a heavy fish tail on Turn one exit at 12:56...was trying to catch up to slick grip! The Ducati Data Analyzer seems to have a slight delay in enabling, but the times from marker to marker are spot on! I'm so so close to a minute...Lets do this Monday thing soon, I think I know few tricks to break the 60 sec barrier! I WILL BREAK IT! [evil] [thumbsup]
DJD- Lines can always be improved, even for the best racer out there...as there is always someone who comes by one day, one year, who is super & faster! ??? The irony of racing! [thumbsup]
No marshals...no workers...no ambulance. I've never been so uncomfortable in my life!
Please be careful pushing at a "test and tune" day.
Quote from: Zaster on October 11, 2011, 08:51:26 PM
How's next Monday work for you?
I'm checking... The boss is a real asshole :o
I'm really hoping to make this, but will have to let you know. ;D
I'm thinking Monday is gonna be a no go for me for the rest of the semester. :(
Quote from: Zaster on October 11, 2011, 08:51:26 PM
How's next Monday work for you?
I was able to get the day off... WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Dolph] [Dolph] [Dolph]
So, September 17, Monday. I'll inform the boss man. Who else is coming?
Chief Corner Marshall- why don't ya take a half day break? Give us some tips...?
As far as worries (marshals, ambulance,..), all I was thinking was brake markers and traction loss...I cannot seem to live the rest of this winter with 800th of a second off a minute! It is simply desperation. But, we will be careful.
Quote from: JJ on October 12, 2011, 03:34:18 PM
So, September October 17, Monday. I'll inform the boss man. Who else is coming?
Chief Corner Marshall- why don't ya take a half day break? Give us some tips...?
As far as worries (marshals, ambulance,..), all I was thinking was brake markers and traction loss...I cannot seem to live the rest of this winter with 800th of a second off a minute! It is simply desperation. But, we will be careful.
Fixed it for you ;D
I have an appointment with Desert Desmo on Sunday for new fork seals, then Sunday night I'm partying with the Hauer's, then I'll see you kids at the track Monday [thumbsup]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on October 12, 2011, 05:14:29 PM
I have an appointment with Desert Desmo on Sunday for new fork seals, then Sunday night I'm partying with the Hauer's, then I'll see you kids at the track Monday [thumbsup]
Sounds like a plan. The pricing is still the same, $50 from 8 to 12 or 1 to 5 and $75 from 8 to 5. The website says motorcycles and karts on Mondays.
The weather report looks good calling for a high of 77F.
Might be the last hurray for this riding season to shed lots of rubber [Dolph]
Took the day off...now need to decide morning or afternoon...?! It is 50 through morning and it is nice in the afternoon...Last track day- first session, I could not feel my toes or find the shift lever, had one false neutral through the tight hairpin. 8-9:30am is probably useless, the track would be super cold with fewer bikes to heat up! :-\
Quote from: JJ on October 13, 2011, 09:21:58 AM
It is 50 through morning and it is nice in the afternoon...Last track day- first session, I could not feel my toes or find the shift lever, had one false neutral through the tight hairpin. 8-9:30am is probably useless, the track would be super cold with fewer bikes to heat up! :-\
You are right JJ. It will be in the 60's and 70's between 11 and 4. I'm calling tomorrow to see if we can deviate from the 8 to noon and 1 to 5 schedule.
Looks like we will have the track to ourselves since there was no action on previous Monday's. [Dolph]
I'm up for a "full day", but I won't be there at 8:00am [laugh]
Maybe 9:30 - 5:00?!?!?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on October 13, 2011, 07:07:00 PM
I'm up for a "full day", but I won't be there at 8:00am [laugh]
Maybe 9:30 - 5:00?!?!?
Well you better, your non riding season is a bit longer than ours ;D
I already approved my day off [laugh] and I will be in charge of hydration
and some snacks. Pam will be in Taos being part of the Discovery channel 'How it's
made' shot.
I may do a whole day and just take an hour and a half off for my class. We'll see though. Right now I'm not even sure if the class will be canceled or not.
Quote from: DonJuanDucati on October 13, 2011, 07:32:34 PM
I may do a whole day and just take an hour and a half off for my class. We'll see though. Right now I'm not even sure if the class will be canceled or not.
Looking forward to seeing you out there [thumbsup]
Ladies,
Heard rumors that Caleb will sport a Speedo on the track Monday.
Not sure if he meant apparel or bike hardware ;D
Come and find out [clap]
Looks like we will have a sizeable group at the track:
L'Scott, JJ, Caleb, Adam, Jim, Bjorn, myself and some onlookers [thumbsup]
Success [thumbsup] everyone and their bikes made it back in one piece [Dolph]
L'Scott, Adam and I made it to the track by 9:30 when Caleb and Jim were already warming up the track.
We started to shake off some rust and gained confidence in going around the track by the time JJ showed up.
We asked JJ to take us around the track and show us his lines hoping to learn from the master...what a blast.
Too bad his chain decided to jump off the rear sprocket and ended his fun prematurely..but then again we were lucky
that he didn't get hurt in the process ;)
Battled the wind and blowing sand for the rest of the day while having unspeakable fun ;D
I was pleasantly surprised to see Ed joining the gang and selfishly asked him to share his knowledge.
He lead, followed and illustrated how to navigate the course in the most efficient fashion....priceless (while kicking our ass in the process). [thumbsup]
We also met some regulars from the SMRI who volunteered their knowledge and experience.
To sum it all up...can't think of a better way to spend a Monday with my friends who are willing to make me a better rider.
BTW, I'm sore as heck...but it's a good sore [laugh]
Sounds like a great time.. Wish I could have been out there with you all. Sounds like a great day full of educational things I would have liked to have been a part of...
Well, I went from about 1:07 lap times at the SMRI track day to a couple 1:04 and 1:05 lap times this track day. This is just judging from my video, I need to get a lap timer some time to be more sure of that. Lots of fun was had and I learned a lot from Ed. I got some good video, including a couple laps of different markers getting pointed out. Karl, unfortunately your video didn't record, I got a good video of your bike sitting on its kickstand, though! [laugh] Adam's video did come out, and I got some video behind you as well. [thumbsup]
Caleb,
Had a great time riding with you. Your progress is astounding considering we took you up the Crest when we met to show you the ropes.
Let me know if you can post the video clip or if I need to get you a DVD.
[clap] Glad you guys learned the faster ways. In my little time there it was fun to follow each of you...wish I had not derailed the chain, would have loved to see Ed and check his speedy ways...& follow L'Scott few more times...he was doing awesome as well! At the same time I was real lucky that it happened close to the tight hairpin/slowest speed trap aand not the horseshoe!!! Thanks Karl for helping me load it up. It will come back stronger...! [thumbsup]
Caleb, your learning is pretty impressive! 1.04s is awesome on the monster....congratulations!
Karl, I can definitely upload the video to youtube, I can also burn a disk for you as well. I figure Adam will probably want his video burned to a disc.
JJ, it's amazing what learning better lines will do. Big thanks to Ed helping me out with that.
Freakin' AWESOME day!!!!!! Great weather (well, except for the 30mph winds), lots of good laps, & no incidents other than JJ's chain...
My rear tire is toast. 2 track days, Ouray, & North Carolina have done it in. It went flat yesterday from a small nail.
My odometer shows 112.8 miles, but that includes trips from the pit to the track & back. Not sure how long the track is.
I've got lap times on my DDA, but it's PC only, so I may need to impose upon someone with a PC [roll]
Thanks to Karl for letting me crash at his place for a coupla days!
It was great fun trying to keep up with Ed!!! ;D
I also followed Charles from SMRI for a few laps. He showed me his racing lines, & shift & braking points. Good stuff!
Good seeing everyone at Farina's Sunday night, & Two Fools Monday night.
Let's do it again soon [thumbsup] [Dolph]
It's that time again... Trackdays are back :) I'm headed down to Deming on Saturday for my first trackday this year. I'm super excited to get back on the bike. I just got new forks seals on and new oil in the bike. I'm excited about getting on a different track too. I've heard it's pretty nice down there. I'll have my gopro so I'll try to get some good video. Can't wait!!
Lucky you! Good luck [thumbsup] Bring back pictures... [Dolph]
Quote from: JJ on March 08, 2012, 04:18:33 AM
Lucky you! Good luck [thumbsup] Bring back pictures... [Dolph]
Thanks JJ. I will for sure!
I just noticed SMS has been rebranded as the Napa Speedway. Has it been sold or what? I also read that they're trying to bring NASCAR in. What does this mean for track days and SMRI race days?
Quote from: DonJuanDucati on April 12, 2012, 09:58:41 AM
I just noticed SMS has been rebranded as the Napa Speedway. Has it been sold or what? I also read that they're trying to bring NASCAR in. What does this mean for track days and SMRI race days?
The 2012 track day schedule is posted on the SMRI website, and the first track day of the year is this Saturday, so come on out!
Without going into verbose detail, the CEO/President of SMS last year, Jim Guthrie, resigned his position in order to take out a two-year lease on the track. He now operates the facility independent of SMS' board, who still own the facility but are no longer responsible for operations. Jim sold a sponsorship of the facility to NAPA Auto Parts and has rebranded accordingly. They've spent a bit of money repainting and straightening things at the track, and seeing to a bit of desperately needed maintenance. If Jim's venture is profitable, I'm told he has the option to extend his lease to as long as ten years under the current contract. I expect that if he turns a reasonable profit for those two years he might consider resurfacing the entire asphalt surface....maybe?
Last year, Sandia raised it's rental rates to SMRI, but SMRI failed to raise its prices to riders. We lost money. This year a track day is $100 (in lieu of last year's $75) and race fees have also been raised a bit. SMRI have also aggressively courted class and event sponsors and have done a good job enhancing revenues via those streams. I expect the financial health of the club will strengthen throughout the year and for years to come. The track is anxious to keep all its current "customers", so you can rest assured that we'll be holding track days and race events at NAPA Speedway for years to come!
Blake's is gone from the track, but Jim is actively courting another entity to operate the "snack bar" to service spectators and participants. This weekend, the track day sponsor, Santa Fe Harley Davidson, will provide lunch for all participants. If you'd like to buy an advance ticket you'll need to buy it directly from SFHD, as they're no longer available online (a concession to an amendment to our track day sponsorship agreement). If you want to risk coming out to the track to buy a ticket we'll sell them there for the same $100 price until we run out of slots. I think we decided to cap the number of participants at 90 (30 per class, 3 classes).
All sounds pretty good then! I was worried new business and new sponsors might push out motorcycles. I was planning on coming to the race day this weekend, but it didn't click in my head that I was going to be gone this weekend! [laugh] I may be able to do a track day in May since I got tax moneys, but we'll see if that money doesn't actually go towards my moving costs.