Now that the Walking Dead has seen their last zombie mayhem for the year, I'm now waiting impatiently for Games of Thrones season 2 to begin. I have read all the books (twice except for the last one) and know what's coming. If you though the first season was good...
Melisandre
The siege...
The hound
Aria...
Good plot lines are comin' up
Really looking forward to this season. Read 1 and 2 and just starting 3 now.
Read ALL the books, AND the Tales of Dunk and Egg.
If that mothermake the beast with two backser dies before finishing the series I'll revive him just to kill him again.
Quote from: El Matador on March 28, 2012, 11:41:44 AM
Read ALL the books, AND the Tales of Dunk and Egg.
If that mothermake the beast with two backser dies before finishing the series I'll revive him just to kill him again.
I plan to read them all. Finished Book 2 last weekend and didn't feel like running out to the store to buy 3 so I stole my 8 year old kindle and downloaded it on that.
The third is the best book. We waited make the beast with two backsing 5 or 6 years for that fat make the beast with two backs to finish that book. He still has 2 more in him before he calls it a life.
Reading 5 now. I'm pissed this isn't the last after 4 fell off in quality. I'd like to see a conclusion to the story.
I may have to get hbo so I can catch up on and follow this series.
Quote from: swampduc on March 28, 2012, 12:27:04 PM
Reading 5 now. I'm pissed this isn't the last after 4 fell off in quality. I'd like to see a conclusion to the story.
I may have to get hbo so I can catch up on and follow this series.
It is well made. Not as good as the books, like anything else, but still good. I want to see the Watch heading north of the wall.
I always love when he does interviews talking about the HBO scripts that he writes.
Usually, his vision for a single episode is 2x the entire season's budget [thumbsup]
Quote from: bevel on March 28, 2012, 01:03:34 PM
I always love when he does interviews talking about the HBO scripts that he writes.
Usually, his vision for a single episode is 2x the entire season's budget [thumbsup]
I'm not sure how I feel about him writing the scripts and the w hole HBO series. Yes, they are good, and yes,it's an incredibly produced show, but goddamn it! He needs to get his ass back to Santa Fe and finish the series before he gets a coronary.
I love the HBO series - in 4 years, he'll have his back against the wall and be holding back the series so eventually he'll have to write faster [laugh]
Liked it, but they didn't give much info about the new characters. I was watching with the wife and she was almost completely lost.
I thought this was going to be about blumpkin contests..... ;D
Just started watching this and holy shit it's good. [thumbsup]
The first season was much better than the second IMHO
Quote from: duccarlos on November 09, 2012, 06:16:23 AM
The first season was much better than the second IMHO
Only half way through 1st season and wow. I'll have to pick up the books since it sounds like those are even better.
Quote from: ItsaDuc on November 09, 2012, 07:13:18 AM
Only half way through 1st season and wow. I'll have to pick up the books since it sounds like those are even better.
You have no idea.
TV series is pretty good, but the books are better. Lots more room for details and character development
Tyrion in the books is extraordinary!
Agreed. As much as I'm enjoying Peter Dinkledges portrayal, they have to leave out a lot of Tyrion best stuff
They found the best actor, but the books just show off the brilliant, broken character to the fullest. It was sometimes painful to read some of the other characters' stories (Sansa), but I was always happy when I saw that Tyrion's chapter was next.
Just started watching bits and pieces a few weeks ago. I'm hooked after this week's episode though. :o
spoilers ahoy!
for those that have seen the penultimate episode of season 3, here's an alternate ending:
Game of Thrones - "Red Wedding" (Storybook Edition) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6AjgR7D3yg#)
[laugh]
That episode was messed up!! I can't wait to see the other episodes.
book 3 was the best by far.
the last book wasnt that great...dont know if i'll read the next one when (if) it comes out
ok, i probably will but I'll have forgotten 200 of the 600 characters
the last one is the only one I have not read twice. I agree that book 3 was by far the best. Book 5 was the worst so far. I presume they will have enough to get decent seasons, but it has been rolling down hill since George started thinking he was too important to produce anything within a decent amount of time.
the last episode was crazy...
so unexpected
Never blink with this series.
Quote from: TiNi on June 07, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
the last episode was crazy...
so unexpected
Someone hasn't read the books.
;D
I really like Peter Dinklage as an actor
excellent in The Station Agent too
I can't wait to see Joffrey chokes on a bad pork sausage, please. I stayed away from the books so I could watch the shows but my wife didn't and she is trying to be spoiler. I keep throwing things at her!
Quote from: Slide Panda on June 10, 2013, 06:10:37 AM
Someone hasn't read the books.
;D
no, i haven't - and hopefully reading this thread won't spoil it for me :)
Quote from: TiNi on June 11, 2013, 02:57:06 AM
no, i haven't - and hopefully reading this thread won't spoil it for me :)
I'm working at keeping my trap shut. Though things are starting to diverge a bit from the books. So the future spoiler potential may drop.
It's back on Sunday!! To catch up:
A lot of people died last season.
Chances of a lot of people dying this season is high.
3 main areas of conflict: the North, King's Landing and the East.
I turned it on and tried to watch it while my girlfriend was here. Needless to say she was not an instant fan as the first scene involved two very good looking nude women....
You kinda have to start them from the beginning. Not a series you can "get" when starting in the middle.
"The Hound" rules!
"You talk too much..." [evil]
That scene starts a transformation.
;D
Reminds me, I need to reread the last book! I've read all the others twice.
;D
http://wwwmashable.com/2014/04/13/game-of-thrones-purple-wedding-tweets (http://www.mashable.com/2014/04/13/game-of-thrones-purple-wedding-tweets)
Quote from: duccarlos on April 14, 2014, 12:16:37 PM
;D
make the beast with two backsin' [thumbsup]
[drink]
I don't know why, but Joffry's death was unsatisfying to me. I have been wishing that guy dead since the first season. I hated him more than any fictional character I can remember in any book, tv show, or movie. Yet, I think the show had nice balance with his megalomaniacal yet immature presence. He created ongoing tension that carried a lot of characters.
I guess I've come to expect a certain level of realism from Martin (well, err, the show that is---never read the books) and so I got accustomed to the fact that, like in our world, in Westeros bad people succeed at least as much as good people.
Joffry's death was a level of justice I don't expect from GoT, and so a little off-putting. Still, I'm not gonna lie: it was very fun to watch him die. [evil] Now, how do we get rid of his mother...
There are enough bad people in Westeros. More than anything GRRM tries to keep things balanced. You could say that once they got rid of THE good guy, that being Ned Stark, they would need to eventually get rid of THE bad guy. Waiting to the end of the series would be the most predictable thing they could do.
Ok. So, my first question is...are we using this thread for speculation and theories? I know a lot of you have read the books and clearly I haven't yet and would like to but im having too much fun with just the show right now.
If so, my second question is... if the King dies and has no heir, who then rules? I thought it might be the Kings Hand but not sure. Any help here?
Quote from: ItsaDuc on April 15, 2014, 07:16:05 PM
Ok. So, my first question is...are we using this thread for speculation and theories? I know a lot of you have read the books and clearly I haven't yet and would like to but im having too much fun with just the show right now.
If so, my second question is... if the King dies and has no heir, who then rules? I thought it might be the Kings Hand but not sure. Any help here?
I haven't read the books, so this is speculative. The wedding was completed, so I think the (new) queen is now technically in charge of the realm. I could be wrong. But then again, none of that matters since every and anyone will lay claim to it or try to wrestle it from whoever has the crown because, ya know, game of thrones.
Quote from: 1.21GW on April 15, 2014, 08:39:28 PM
I haven't read the books, so this is speculative. The wedding was completed, so I think the (new) queen is now technically in charge of the realm. I could be wrong. But then again, none of that matters since every and anyone will lay claim to it or try to wrestle it from whoever has the crown because, ya know, game of thrones.
Yes. But the wedding was not consummated. I think that has something to do with it. Also, in the "what's coming next week" blurb.. the new queen says she "would have been queen" which insinuates she is not.
All I know is this make the beast with two backsing show is the only thing stopping me from cutting the cable cord and at this point I don't give a shit.
Good points. I did not see the "coming next week". In any case, in a few days you and I will both know the answer.
I say cut it! Avoid this thread and then in 8 weeks go to a friend's house that has cable, bring a bottle or sixpack or some other housewarming gift, walk straight to his/her couch, and then binge watch the rest of a season 4.
Quote from: 1.21GW on April 14, 2014, 08:14:30 PM
He created ongoing tension that carried a lot of characters.
don't assume his death won't create tension, as well. ;D
I have read all the books, but you can tell the answer from the previous seasons...
When Fat King Robert died and the rumors were flying that his children were not his, both his brothers stepped up to grab the throne. So with that in mind, when a king dies with no heir, it falls to the next eldest male sibling.
By the way, in the books they reveal who kills Joffrey, but I'm not sure if they'll follow the book on this one. They have diverged enough for me to think that they might lay it on someone else.
Some of the "recent" divergences include killing Rob Stark's wife, in the book they hold her captive (sort of), and Jaime Lannister's fencing partner, in the book Ser Ilyn Payne (the King's Justice) who's missing a tongue.
Quote from: duccarlos on April 16, 2014, 09:06:07 AM
By the way, in the books they reveal who kills Joffrey, but I'm not sure if they'll follow the book on this one. They have diverged enough for me to think that they might lay it on someone else.
The show drops plenty of hints at who did it. They stayed mostly inline with the book. FWIW GRRM wrote this episode.
Quote from: duccarlos on April 16, 2014, 09:06:07 AM
Some of the "recent" divergences include killing Rob Stark's wife, in the book they hold her captive (sort of), and Jaime Lannister's fencing partner, in the book Ser Ilyn Payne (the King's Justice) who's missing a tongue.
The actor that plays Ilyn Payne has cancer and is spending time with his family, thus the change. More Bron is good for everyone.
Quote from: JohnEE on April 16, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
The actor that plays Ilyn Payne has cancer and is spending time with his family, thus the change. More Bron is good for everyone.
I did not know that he was fighting cancer :(
Bron is a great character, or better said, the relationship between Bron and Tyrion is a great matchup.
Quote from: JohnEE on April 16, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
The show drops plenty of hints at who did it. They stayed mostly inline with the book. FWIW GRRM wrote this episode.
Not sure who they're going to blame considering that they might have thrown those hints out there to mislead people. I think we can all agree that it won't be Tyrion.
At first I was pissed he died so simple. Thought it would be fitting to be bloody and gruesome.. but after seeing it a Se on time, it was much better he died knowing he would. Slow, in fear with pregnant dog mom watching helplessly.
You can say a lot about how the Starks died, but it was pretty quick.
Anybody notice anything odd about the Hound?
Odd in what way?
It's another divergence. He should be dead by now.
He hasn't changed much. He's still doing whatever needs to be done to survive.
Quote from: Dannyboy on April 21, 2014, 01:49:17 PM
Anybody notice anything odd about the Hound?
Yaaarp!
;D
I need to pick up my reading pace(I'm rereading all the books and I'm 1/5th through SoS). I having a hard time distinguishing stuff that happens in the book from TV stuff. Soo long for the who done it of killing the king. Pretty much smacked you in the face with the plot points.
I suspected granny, but not the pimp.
It was slightly different in the books, but they pretty much got the jest of it. Now what's happening in the north is diverging a lot from the books. I think they figured that they had to stretch the material a bit. GRRM takes 4eva to write his books. He's published 5 out of 7 books, but the series has been averaging a book a season. That changed this year, since a lot of this season is actually the end of the 3rd book.
http://www.avclub.com/article/well-actually-books-15-differences-text-tv-game-th-203713?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default (http://www.avclub.com/article/well-actually-books-15-differences-text-tv-game-th-203713?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default)
Yea the ending of last episode wife told me is not I the books. It's an interesting add on though. . I figured they were recruiting the babies instead of eating them..
The show producers know the end game of the books so maybe us book snobs will be reading about it once GRRM gets back to writing.
Quote from: JohnEE on April 29, 2014, 04:01:34 AM
The show producers know the end game of the books so maybe us book snobs will be reading about it once GRRM gets back to writing.
I hate this guy.
Who? Also there has been some speculation as to who king other/white darth maul really is...
I hate GRRM for keeping me and the rest of the books' fans waiting for him to get his huge ass in front of a computer writing the remaining 2 books.
Quote from: duccarlos on May 01, 2014, 08:31:44 AM
I hate GRRM for keeping me and the rest of the books' fans waiting for him to get his huge ass in front of a computer writing the remaining 2 books.
I have a feeling he won't be able to tie everything together in 2 books. He is going to pull another FoC/DwD and have to split the last book into two.
That was been the rumor for a while. The last 2 books should have been 1 and a half, but he decided to split them by geography. In any case, it takes him forever to complete each book and the series will surpass the timelines. Most likely the writers will need to fill in the time gaps.
make the beast with two backs!!!
I am so bummed! :(
Boo... only thing in the episode that was correct, according to book, was viper guy dieing. But the dude was f'n fast and had a short sword on him. I'm guessing he should have been able to stab the mountain before getting his head popped...
That last scenes with Tyrion and Jamie's discussion about their cousin and the head popping was great.
Quote from: duccarlos on June 02, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
That last scenes with Tyrion and Jamie's discussion about their cousin and the head popping was great.
I was so make the beast with two backsin' bummed that Oberyn's head got popped. He truly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. :'(
Last few episodes made for a great end to season. But man, I don't want to wait 40-50 weeks for next season. Ugh. Should have waited x years until series completed and then just watched all at once.
Quote from: 1.21GW on June 17, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
Last few episodes made for a great end to season. But man, I don't want to wait 40-50 weeks for next season. Ugh. Should have waited x years until series completed and then just watched all at once.
http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-5-Book-Boxed/dp/0345535529 (http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-5-Book-Boxed/dp/0345535529)
Quote from: derby on June 17, 2014, 07:19:49 PM
http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-5-Book-Boxed/dp/0345535529 (http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-5-Book-Boxed/dp/0345535529)
I knew someone would post that. ;)
I'm not investing in that many pages unless I'm certain that by the time I finish the books will be done.
The first book was published in 1995. I remember that every time I get antsy waiting for the new book or the new season.
This was an interesting read... (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-game-of-thrones-ending-may-air-on-hbo-before-it-arrives-in-a-book/)
The next book will be publish by 2015 at the earliest. Considering that they're covering portions of the 4th and 5th books this season, something tells me that we will have to wait a long time for the last season of GoT on HBO.
I understand that the books/show don't always align, but I'm curious to know...
For anyone that read the books first and are now watching the show: do you enjoy the show even though many of the plots are spoiled for you?
And for anyone whose enjoyment of the show caused them to read the books: has knowledge of the show plot made the books less exciting to read?
I've read the books and I still enjoy the show. The acting is top notch and they have enough plot changes for me to keep me on my toes.
I'm in both camps as i watched the first season then immediately went out and bought the books and read them in about 3 months. The show doesn't spoil the books because the show is visualising the broad strokes on the books and there are many many small details the book drops that end up giving little hints towards future plot points. They are best enjoyed together, read the books for the greater backstory and watch the for actors for the life they give to the characters.
This thread died along the way, but I think it's time to bring it back like a White Walker. Who's been keeping up with the latest exploits of our friends in Westoros?
Present. [thumbsup]
Yeah, this season has me a little ambivalent: I like getting the payoff of years of plot points in every single episode, but I miss the slower pace and subtle strategies that unfolded over whole seasons in years passed. It's like the first seasons were a stripper, dancing for dollars and never giving you what you want but always giving you just enough to stick around and keep tipping. Season seven is more like I walking into a full on orgy. Not sure I was ready for it.
In any case, I'm predicting a lot of key deaths next episode. Half that group is not coming back south of the wall. At least not alive.
You hit the nail on the head there. It is gratifying to watch the characters higher purpose unfold and paths converge.
Im up to date. Watch it with our eldest over good wine.
Gosh. Shows how important air power is in warefare.
It's the product of the short season. They are trying to pack as much bang for their buck in 7 episodes, which leads to this sort of pacing.
I think the northern party is going to lose at least 2 people, Thoros and Beric.
I'm going to add Mormont to that...
So more made it back than expected. I guess they are reluctant to kill of popular characters now.
I read a note online last week that the show feels more like fan fiction than the great SOIF we had gotten used to. Last night's episode thoroughly proved that me. Nevertheless, was fun to watch, if a bit ridiculous at times (Rodrick could run to the wall, a raven could be sent, and Dany saddle up and fly off, all in like 12 hours...24 max??? Perhaps if Westeros in it's entirety were the size of Rhode Island.)
I predicted Thoros, was hoping Beric would die too with his crappy fire sword.
We truly don't know how many days passed between Gendry making to the Wall, but regardless, it would have been idiotic for them to survive more than a day with an army of dead people surrounding them.
If they would have extended the first 20 minutes of that episode, mainly when the war party is talking, to the full hour, it would have been the episode of the season. Tormund and the Hound talking about Brienne was awesome!