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Title: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 14, 2013, 09:48:42 PM
As the title implies. Talk about cars.

My new to me ML 320

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zpsf7b98dd3.jpg)

The wife likes it.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zps4eb17664.jpg)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zps4a8e328d.jpg)

Some say that ML stands for monsterlover, all we know is...the stig is nowhere around.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Monsterlover on May 15, 2013, 05:20:16 AM
Its true. ML does stand for Monsterlover.

:D
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 15, 2013, 05:24:21 AM
nice vehicle MD . . . now you have two of the same engine at home . . . ;D
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: NAKID on May 15, 2013, 07:57:24 AM
OK, since this is Car Talk, I have a question. My girl has a 2013 Jeep Patriot (2.4l, CVT, 4x4) with 9000 miles that has either a gas cap light or the CEL (or both at times) that continues to come on. Taking into the local dealer, they have said "oh, you must not have put the gas cap on all the way". Well, it now has happened several times with both of us filling the tank and replacing the cap. Anyone heard of this?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 15, 2013, 08:14:35 AM
Quote from: NAKID on May 15, 2013, 07:57:24 AM
OK, since this is Car Talk, I have a question. My girl has a 2013 Jeep Patriot (2.4l, CVT, 4x4) with 9000 miles that has either a gas cap light or the CEL (or both at times) that continues to come on. Taking into the local dealer, they have said "oh, you must not have put the gas cap on all the way". Well, it now has happened several times with both of us filling the tank and replacing the cap. Anyone heard of this?
pick up an OBD 2 scanner and double check if that is indeed the code, they're cheap. I think the one I picked up at Harbor Freight was something like $40.
If it is just that maybe there's a loose connection somewhere or something? Not an item I've had to chase down myself yet on anything so I'm not sure what exactly to look for.

I don't trust any of these service departments anymore.
I also have the Ross Tech cable and software for VW/Audi stuff and have confirmed for a coworker that his dealership was giving him the run around regarding a CEL on his A4. In his case, that software allows me to print out a report of how often the CEL was triggered and why, forcing them to replace his O2 sensor that prior to that they were claiming was not the issue.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: NAKID on May 15, 2013, 08:57:51 AM
The first time it came up it was just the CEL. Took it in and they said it was an evap system code and said likely the cap wasn't on right. Since then it has popped up as either the gas cap light or the CEL or both 3 more times. The gas cap can only go on so much before it clicks and we both make sure it clicks every time so I'm not sure what the issue is.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 15, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
have them check the evap system, specially the hoses that come back to the tank . . . and the canister . . .
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 15, 2013, 09:54:08 AM
What is the ross tech cable?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 15, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 15, 2013, 09:54:08 AM
What is the ross tech cable?
like Vagcom
The software is a free download but doesn't work without the $300 cable with the license dongle in it
Only good for the VW/Audi stuff but VERY good (just about essential) for them
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: zooom on May 15, 2013, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 15, 2013, 09:54:08 AM
What is the ross tech cable?
Quote from: lethe on May 15, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
like Vagcom
The software is a free download but doesn't work without the $300 cable with the license dongle in it
Only good for the VW/Audi stuff but VERY good (just about essential) for them

WWW.ROSS-TECH.COM (//http://)

it is the commonly aquired item for those VW/Audi owners that want to do some if not all of their own diag and wrenching.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 15, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
Quote from: zooom on May 15, 2013, 10:05:59 AM
WWW.ROSS-TECH.COM (//http://) (//http://) (//http://)

it is the commonly aquired item for those VW/Audi owners that want to do some if not all of their own diag and wrenching.
potentially dangerous in the wrong hands too  [laugh]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 15, 2013, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on May 15, 2013, 05:24:21 AM
nice vehicle MD . . . now you have two of the same engine at home . . . ;D

Thanks. Its not as nice as the E320 but I can tow the utility trailer with it and it has AWD which is needed in the winter. So far the only thing wrong with it is the fuel gauge is inop. It could use a really good detail too.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 15, 2013, 11:22:53 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 15, 2013, 10:21:44 AM
Thanks. <snip>. It could use a really good detail too.

bring it to me, for you, inside+outside and tinted windows, $400.00[goes for about $600.00 here]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: cokey on May 15, 2013, 08:48:27 PM
I still need to repaint the neon/race car/daily driver..  plus find out what's bent causeing  a lot of camber in my driver rear wheel...  n need a hood for my traverse thanks to what looked like a truck..
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Randimus Maximus on May 15, 2013, 09:06:57 PM
Quote from: NAKID on May 15, 2013, 07:57:24 AM
OK, since this is Car Talk, I have a question. My girl has a 2013 Jeep Patriot (2.4l, CVT, 4x4) with 9000 miles that has either a gas cap light or the CEL (or both at times) that continues to come on. Taking into the local dealer, they have said "oh, you must not have put the gas cap on all the way". Well, it now has happened several times with both of us filling the tank and replacing the cap. Anyone heard of this?

First of all, I'm fairly biased as I don't believe the reliability of Jeeps to be that good.

However, have you, or the dealerships documented the repair attempts so far?

if there has not been a written repair attempt (repair order) you are likely spinning your wheels.

You need to get everything documented in order to have any type of legal recourse.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducatiz on May 15, 2013, 09:34:23 PM
anyone replaced the cam/lifters on a VW PD TDI?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: zooom on May 16, 2013, 07:21:51 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 15, 2013, 09:34:23 PM
anyone replaced the cam/lifters on a VW PD TDI?

I know it takes a special tool for which one of my wholesale customers that specializes in VW's has it and has done it a few times...
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LMT on May 16, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: NAKID on May 15, 2013, 07:57:24 AM
OK, since this is Car Talk, I have a question. My girl has a 2013 Jeep Patriot (2.4l, CVT, 4x4) with 9000 miles that has either a gas cap light or the CEL (or both at times) that continues to come on. Taking into the local dealer, they have said "oh, you must not have put the gas cap on all the way". Well, it now has happened several times with both of us filling the tank and replacing the cap. Anyone heard of this?

Happens with my Jeep all the time. I replaced the oem cap and it has slowed down to once every 6 months or so.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: NAKID on May 17, 2013, 07:49:44 AM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 15, 2013, 09:06:57 PM
First of all, I'm fairly biased as I don't believe the reliability of Jeeps to be that good.

However, have you, or the dealerships documented the repair attempts so far?

if there has not been a written repair attempt (repair order) you are likely spinning your wheels.

You need to get everything documented in order to have any type of legal recourse.

Randy, I took it in with the CEL and it was documented, so I'll just continue this route and hopefully if it continues, they'll actually do something about it. Thanks
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 21, 2013, 04:22:20 PM
Yesterday morning when I was walking the dog, I came across a guy who was working on his newish Ford 350 Diesel.
He thought the Cam sensor was out, and to get to it he had to remove the Hydraulic pump from underneath. I was looking at the V8 made by International and noticed that you couldn't get to hardly anything without something else being in the way.

I'm not buying stuff like that anymore....
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 21, 2013, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 21, 2013, 04:22:20 PM
Yesterday morning when I was walking the dog, I came across a guy who was working on his newish Ford 350 Diesel.
He thought the Cam sensor was out, and to get to it he had to remove the Hydraulic pump from underneath. I was looking at the V8 made by International and noticed that you couldn't get to hardly anything without something else being in the way.

I'm not buying stuff like that anymore....
here's another example of stupid for you
Chevy Cobalt, they want you remove the engine mount to take off the serpentine belt (insufficient room to get to the tensioner)
One of the many things dumbass me found out when I took on the task of replacing someone's alternator this past winter. Unbelievable how much had to be removed to get to the stupid thing.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LowThudd on May 21, 2013, 04:33:05 PM
Certain Lexus have the starter UNDERNEATH the dam intake manifold, requiring not only removal of the engine to service, but disassembly of half the engine.

http://jalopnik.com/5068112/advances-in-lemons-penalty-cruelty-the-lexus-ls400-starter-removal-challenge (http://jalopnik.com/5068112/advances-in-lemons-penalty-cruelty-the-lexus-ls400-starter-removal-challenge)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 21, 2013, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: LowThudd on May 21, 2013, 04:33:05 PM
Certain Lexus have the starter UNDERNEATH the dam intake manifold, requiring not only removal of the engine to service, but disassembly of half the engine.

http://jalopnik.com/5068112/advances-in-lemons-penalty-cruelty-the-lexus-ls400-starter-removal-challenge (http://jalopnik.com/5068112/advances-in-lemons-penalty-cruelty-the-lexus-ls400-starter-removal-challenge)

That kind of stuff is unacceptable. If the starter is going to be internal, it needs to lats the life of the engine.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LowThudd on May 21, 2013, 05:30:54 PM
That's the other problem. Because it is inside the engine, it has no cooling to it and has premature failure rates as a result. Really dumb design...at least for the owner. [evil]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 21, 2013, 05:38:29 PM
I always look under the hood of any car I plan to buy and make an assessment of how difficult things could be.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 21, 2013, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 21, 2013, 05:38:29 PM
I always look under the hood of any car I plan to buy and make an assessment of how difficult things could be.
So far anything I've had to done on my Golf, the GTI we used to have and my wife's Audi isn't too bad to get to and seems well designed.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 21, 2013, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: lethe on May 21, 2013, 05:44:21 PM
So far anything I've had to done on my Golf, the GTI we used to have and my wife's Audi isn't too bad to get to and seems well designed.

Its nice to come across a good design. These days everything from Airplanes, to Motorcycles, to Electronic equipment is designed in a cad program before its ever built. that gives the designers plenty of opportunity to make sure everything works well and fits before its ever built. So there is no excuse for having all kinds of stuff in your way that is hard or time consuming to remove.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 21, 2013, 05:59:35 PM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 21, 2013, 05:55:12 PM
Its nice to come across a good design. These days everything from Airplanes, to Motorcycles, to Electronic equipment is designed in a cad program before its ever built. that gives the designers plenty of opportunity to make sure everything works well and fits before its ever built. So there is no excuse for having all kinds of stuff in your way that is hard or time consuming to remove.
oh don't get me wrong, it's still 10 lbs stuffed into a 5 lb sack (can't avoid that these days) but it's not shit at least
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 21, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
Quote from: lethe on May 21, 2013, 05:59:35 PM
oh don't get me wrong, it's still 10 lbs stuffed into a 5 lb sack (can't avoid that these days) but it's not shit at least

Well yea, I get that there is only so much room. I had a Chrysler 300M a few years ago. The battery was buried under the washer fluid tank or something, but what they did was provide an access to it through a panel in the front wheel well. You had to remove the wheel but then it slid right out. Not super easy but not that bad either. At least they tried and put some thought behind it.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LowThudd on May 21, 2013, 06:24:09 PM
I think my favorite is the LT1 Camaro/Firebird. According to the manual you need to R&R the motor to change the rear drivers side plug. Most people ended up cutting holes in the firewall/fenderwell for access. Also, to pull the motor you first need to detatch the subframe, steering, AC and radiator from the car to lift the car off the engine and trans. lol What a cluster make the beast with two backs! [clap]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 21, 2013, 06:34:55 PM
I still have this 96 GMC Jimmy and it has the same kinds of problems. I had to remove the inner fender well to get to the plugs on the passenger side. the steering collum had to be removed to get to the last two plugs on the driver side. Don't get me started about the heater core and the dash removal..

No more GM's for me, Ive been fooling around with those my entire adult life and even most of my teen years. Ive had enough of that stuff.

Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: NAKID on May 21, 2013, 07:10:13 PM
2008 VW Touareg I just got rid of had the battery under the driver's seat. Not only that but you needed a special bit to get it out. A 10mm triple star bit. AND the battery was about 85lbs...
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 21, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
must take intake manifold out to remove alternator and thermostat on my Suzuki Swift
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 21, 2013, 07:26:04 PM
The battery on my E320 is under the rear seat and also weighs about very heavy. However the rear seat lifts up and after removing a cover that has no fasteners, there it is.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on May 22, 2013, 05:14:17 AM
In a previous life I was mechanic to Mrs Ung's Citroen 2CV.

According to the service manual, to remove the oil filter you must first remove the bonnet (a hood is a criminal  :P) and the R/H/S front fender assembly.  Knowing better than the French I decided all that was a little excessive and instead skun my knuckles for 40 minutes almost but not quite managing to get the filter out.

Eventually I gave up.  The front fender I discovered was held on by four (alright it may have been six, but not many is the point) bolts and the bonnet merely needed to be lifted all the way up and then slid sideways out of the channel that serves as its hinge.  About 15 minutes work all up.  And then there's the filter looking you square in the face.  Easy like  [laugh].

Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LowThudd on May 22, 2013, 05:43:57 AM
Citroen = In desperate need of an oil filter relocation kit. lol
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 22, 2013, 07:08:47 AM
Thats something else. Sounds like the french had it figured out.


This is the oil filter on the E class. Same as the ML.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zps0c83861e.jpg)

The plastic engine shroud just pops off.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Monsterlover on May 22, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
And oil dumps all over when you pull the filter?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 22, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 22, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
And oil dumps all over when you pull the filter?
nope, both my VW and Audi are top mount like that and nothing more than a drop or two get on anything. It's a really nice setup.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 22, 2013, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 22, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
And oil dumps all over when you pull the filter?

the oil filter basically empties itself once the system has been depressurized and the oil drained . . .
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on May 22, 2013, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 22, 2013, 07:08:47 AM
This is the oil filter on the E class. Same as the ML.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zps0c83861e.jpg)

The plastic engine shroud just pops off.
[clap]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on May 22, 2013, 04:00:15 PM
the oil filter basically empties itself once the system has been depressurized and the oil drained . . .
So...

on start up you run for that extra couple of seconds it takes to fill the filter with no pressure...

...and that's a good thing  ???
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Monsterlover on May 22, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 04:23:28 PM
So...

on start up you run for that extra couple of seconds it takes to fill the filter with no pressure...

...and that's a good thing  ???

This.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 22, 2013, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 04:23:28 PM
So...

on start up you run for that extra couple of seconds it takes to fill the filter with no pressure...

...and that's a good thing  ???

OK, when you loosen the filter or the filter cap, then the filter/reservoir empties . . . much of its contents . . . if not mistaken this is a cartridge filter so, the reservoir where the filter is, empties because the 'vacuum' has been broken

now you got me conffussed, I this shit like the palm of my hand
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on May 22, 2013, 05:05:41 PM
OK, when you loosen the filter or the filter cap, then the filter/reservoir empties . . . much of its contents . . . if not mistaken this is a cartridge filter so, the reservoir where the filter is, empties because the 'vacuum' has been broken

now you got me conffussed, I this shit like the palm of my hand
When does the filter drain?

When depressurized=engine off...

or when the cartridge is loosened?

Huge difference.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 22, 2013, 05:16:19 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 05:15:07 PM
When does the filter drain?

When depressurized=engine off...

or when the cartridge is loosened?

Huge difference.

depressurized/engine off + cartridge is loosened
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on May 22, 2013, 05:16:19 PM
depressurized/engine off + cartridge is loosened
Not for nuthin'...

you'd have to be an idiot to loosen the filter with the engine running. ;D
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 22, 2013, 05:32:28 PM
someone wants a drink?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 22, 2013, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 05:29:49 PM
Not for nuthin'...

you'd have to be an idiot to loosen the filter with the engine running. ;D
I'm sure it's happened to some dope  [laugh]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on May 22, 2013, 05:32:28 PM
someone wants a drink?
I have plenty to drink...

are you referring to yourself?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 22, 2013, 06:37:40 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 22, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
I have plenty to drink...

are you referring to yourself?

I was having a beer . . .
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Howie on May 22, 2013, 10:46:59 PM
If you get a proper filter there is a check valve that keeps it from emptying,  Cheap afteremarket?  Think EXXON Valdez.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on May 23, 2013, 12:41:14 AM
The Ford Falcon is dead

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-23/ford-to-close-geelong-and-broadmeadows-plants/4707960 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-23/ford-to-close-geelong-and-broadmeadows-plants/4707960)

Sorry for the workers, but a company can only sustain such huge losses for so long (even with the benefit of my tax money propping 'em up). 

Weird though, when they make a profit - it gets repatriated to Detroit.

When they make a loss they come crying to local tax payers to pay up.

Heads they win, tails we lose.

Goodbye Ford.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 23, 2013, 12:13:04 PM
There are are about 4 "O" rings on the filter assembly so that all the proper seals are made I guess.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zpsace62fb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 23, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 23, 2013, 12:13:04 PM
There are are about 4 "O" rings on the filter assembly so that all the proper seals are made I guess.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zpsace62fb9.jpg)
It's easy to see how they make it drain back into the motor and not all over the motor from that pic.

Is that from your Mercedes?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: suzyj on May 23, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on May 23, 2013, 12:41:14 AM
The Ford Falcon is dead

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-23/ford-to-close-geelong-and-broadmeadows-plants/4707960 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-23/ford-to-close-geelong-and-broadmeadows-plants/4707960)

Sorry for the workers, but a company can only sustain such huge losses for so long (even with the benefit of my tax money propping 'em up). 

Weird though, when they make a profit - it gets repatriated to Detroit.

When they make a loss they come crying to local tax payers to pay up.

Heads they win, tails we lose.

Goodbye Ford.

They've persisted making a really shit car for ages, and keep wondering why nobody buys it.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 24, 2013, 07:27:07 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 23, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
It's easy to see how they make it drain back into the motor and not all over the motor from that pic.

Is that from your Mercedes?

No its a stock photo i found. Mine looks just like that except it looks like its been in oil. Actually i have two oil soaked filters like that now.

I was thinking i could help out ford by selling the E320 wagon and going with this.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zpsc957538b.jpg)

I bet if i offered the guy $2500 he would take it. Technically its a classic car.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Rameses on May 24, 2013, 08:58:13 AM


I bet if you offered him 1/5 of that, he would take it.


Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 24, 2013, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: Rameses on May 24, 2013, 08:58:13 AM

I bet if you offered him 1/5 of that, he would take it.




But he took alot of time to grow all that moss on the passenger side doors, not to mention whatever else is growing inside the car.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 26, 2013, 04:47:18 PM
I was going to sell the Jimmy but it seems that its market value is about $1,000 with the 4WD not working. It has some other issues too, but its got about $800 worth of almost new rubber on it, and it has some practical uses so I guess ill just keep it and maybe fix the 4WD.

The AC runs pretty cold on it. In fact i just had the compressor replaced and some seals and hoses to the tune of about $800 just two summers ago.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LowThudd on May 26, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 26, 2013, 04:47:18 PM
I was going to sell the Jimmy but it seems that its market value is about $1,000 with the 4WD not working. It has some other issues too, but its got about $800 worth of almost new rubber on it, and it has some practical uses so I guess ill just keep it and maybe fix the 4WD.

The AC runs pretty cold on it. In fact i just had the compressor replaced and some seals and hoses to the tune of about $800 just two summers ago.

No way I'd sell that truck for a grand. It's worth fixing.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 26, 2013, 05:17:08 PM
Its a case where its practical value out weighs its market value
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 27, 2013, 04:34:35 AM
This thread needs Tom and Ray.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 27, 2013, 06:33:55 AM
I think their retired. But they live near you. I bet if you sent them an invite on the back of a 40" Sony KDL40R450A LED HDTV with 1080p resolution, and Two full-range 8W speakers, 2 HDMI inputs, and a USB port and mailed it to their house, they might join the board and crack some jokes around here.  ;D
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Monsterlover on May 27, 2013, 07:01:36 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 27, 2013, 06:33:55 AM
I think their retired. But they live near you. I bet if you sent them an invite on the back of a 40" Sony KDL40R450A LED HDTV with 1080p resolution, and Two full-range 8W speakers, 2 HDMI inputs, and a USB port and mailed it to their house, they might join the board and crack some jokes around here.  ;D

[laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 27, 2013, 07:44:00 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 27, 2013, 06:33:55 AM
I think their retired. But they live near you. I bet if you sent them an invite on the back of a 40" Sony KDL40R450A LED HDTV with 1080p resolution, and Two full-range 8W speakers, 2 HDMI inputs, and a USB port and mailed it to their house, they might join the board and crack some jokes around here.  ;D
They are not retired...

I listened to them Saturday. ;)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Monsterlover on May 27, 2013, 03:39:55 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 27, 2013, 07:44:00 AM
They are not retired...

I listened to them Saturday. ;)

It was a repeat ;)

They're retired. Mostly.

http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/06/08/12125106-click-and-clack-are-retiring-from-car-talk-but-revamped-shows-will-still-air?lite (http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/06/08/12125106-click-and-clack-are-retiring-from-car-talk-but-revamped-shows-will-still-air?lite)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 27, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
I'm shattered
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 27, 2013, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 27, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
I'm shattered

You mean your smashed already?  [drink]

I might pull out the Vodka and put OJ in it.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducpainter on May 27, 2013, 05:05:04 PM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on May 27, 2013, 04:50:26 PM
You mean your smashed already?  [drink]

I might pull out the Vodka and put OJ in it.
No...wiseass.

I'm shattered that Tom and Ray are retired.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 27, 2013, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 27, 2013, 05:05:04 PM
No...wiseass.

I'm shattered that Tom and Ray are retired.

They plan to be syndicated for some time. They're still pretty funny.
well Its Vodka time for me. I wont drink and drive though. well I might drive the couch...
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LMT on May 27, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
The current show are new, they retire in October.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Monsterlover on May 27, 2013, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on May 27, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
The current show are new, they retire in October.

October 2012 ;)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on May 28, 2013, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on May 27, 2013, 07:14:13 PM
October 2012 ;)
Shhh, the old timers think they're still on.. they're sitting back waiting to watch some new I Love Lucy shows, then Ed Sullivan before hitting the bed at 7:30 pm
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on May 28, 2013, 04:00:11 PM
Not to mention the two shows i just listened to had callers having trouble with their 1982 van or 1987 Toyota with less than 150 k on the odometer.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on June 07, 2013, 02:03:26 AM
Ive been driving a chrysler 200 around here in IL. It seems like a pretty good car. The ride is nice and smooth and there is a bit of power under the hood. Looking under the hood i see a 3.6L V6 twin cam engine with variable valve timing claimed on the engine cover.

It sits in the engine bay sideways which gives excellent access to the O2 sensors on the left or front side of the engine. The other two....not so good. Maybe from underneath the car. Im not gonna find out. The 4 cam position sensors are out in the open though and the oil filter is on top of the engine, probably something they learned from Daimler.

Try as I might I couldn't see any sign of spark plugs or coils on this engine. That stuff might be under the plastic intake manifold which appears to have dual length runners and doesn't look like it would be too difficult to remove.

Ive been driving in the rain with this car and I'm pretty sure I've tried out all of the 6 or 7 wiper delay settings. Its not as nice as automatic wipers with the rain sensor but it works.

The inside of the car had soft surfaces on the dash, door panels, steering wheel, etc. no hard plastic like some of the other Mopar vehicles I've been in. The two power outlets are on all the time which I like, instead of turning off with the key.

Its a nice driving car with a firm feel and yet quiet. I used the 6 speed manual/Automatic feature to put the pass on a couple of times. It has enough power to get the job done.

Over all I would give this car an 8 out of 10 mostly because of the engine sitting sideways and hiding some of the sensors which at some point need to be accessed.

I probably wouldn't mind owning this car if it ended up in my driveway.

Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 07, 2013, 06:22:18 AM
Transverse motor is pretty standard in front wheel drive vehicles.... makes for a compact (if inaccessible) package.

I no much likey.




Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 07, 2013, 06:50:11 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 07, 2013, 06:22:18 AM
Transverse motor is pretty standard in front wheel drive vehicles.... makes for a compact (if inaccessible) package.

I no much likey.






Audi still has longitudinal mounted engines, if not mistaken .. .. ..
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 07, 2013, 06:52:46 AM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on June 07, 2013, 06:50:11 AM
Audi still has longitudinal mounted engines, if not mistaken .. .. ..
... coz it suits the AWD config better
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on June 07, 2013, 06:59:03 AM
Theres more than one way to skin a cat.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 07, 2013, 07:06:26 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on June 07, 2013, 06:59:03 AM
Theres more than one way to skin a cat.
Wrong thread mate.

Try here instead  >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1317.585 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1317.585)

Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on June 07, 2013, 07:13:40 AM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on June 07, 2013, 06:50:11 AM
Audi still has longitudinal mounted engines, if not mistaken .. .. ..
Except the A3, because that's just a Golf wearing a nice suit
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on June 07, 2013, 07:15:00 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 07, 2013, 07:06:26 AM
Wrong thread mate.

Try here instead  >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1317.585 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1317.585)



Sorry Ung thats a figure of speech they use here in the states, meaning theres more than one way to do things.

I don't have much interest in cats.

So typically tranverse is what the car company's like to build for front wheel drive but ive seen them do it the right way too, such as the Chrysler 300m. Front wheel drive not mounted tranversely.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 07, 2013, 07:23:58 AM
Quote from: lethe on June 07, 2013, 07:13:40 AM
Except the A3, because that's just a Golf wearing a nice suit
and A1 . . .
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 07, 2013, 07:26:05 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on June 07, 2013, 07:15:00 AMI don't have much interest in cats.
Me either.  Although if you skin 'em for me (by whatever method) I think they'd make fine winter hats  [thumbsup].

But we digress  ;).






Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on June 07, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on June 07, 2013, 07:23:58 AM
and A1 . . .
Don't get that one here.
Smallest Audi is the A3 and smallest VW is the Golf in the states,
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 07, 2013, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: lethe on June 07, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
Don't get that one here.
Smallest Audi is the A3 and smallest VW is the Golf in the states,

well you are missing the Polo, the Fox . . .the Gol . . . we still get the Jetta Mk3 !!!
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: lethe on June 07, 2013, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on June 07, 2013, 07:47:04 PM
well you are missing the Polo, the Fox . . .the Gol . . . we still get the Jetta Mk3 !!!
we're missing a lot of different things the other markets have
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 08, 2013, 05:14:30 AM
Quote from: lethe on June 07, 2013, 07:50:46 PM
we're missing a lot of different things the other markets have
Regarding the markIII Jetta, I'm pretty sure you're not missing much.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 08, 2013, 05:18:37 PM
so,  you still have your Belgian Diesel Ford?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 09, 2013, 01:04:53 AM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on June 08, 2013, 05:18:37 PM
so,  you still have your Belgian Diesel Ford?
Yup.  About 2 years now.  182,000kms on it.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 09, 2013, 05:53:50 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 09, 2013, 01:04:53 AM
Yup.  About 2 years now.  182,000kms on it.

Yauza!!
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Skybarney on June 09, 2013, 08:48:57 AM
This was the easiest to maintain vehicle I have ever owned.  Every single thing on the truck could be removed (including the body) with the on-board tool kit and a couple of army grunts guys named Hans.  It is a 1972 Swiss Military Styer Puch Pinzgauer.  Shift on the fly 4x4, shift on the fly high and low ranges, hydraulic lockers, portal axles and 19 inches of ground clearance.  Four inches of axle travel so you drove it like a tank, literally.  Among enthusiasts they are also called HumVee Recovery vehicles.  During an interview Lee Iaccoca (Chairman of Chrysler) was asked about the Humvee being the most competent 4x4 on the planet. He replied "Nope, that would be the Pinzgauer".  Not a bad truck for being built in 1972 and sold the the Swiss (and other) Military for a mere $100,000 each.  Air cooled!

I sold the truck at a profit (Rare for me) but I will miss it forever.  I have driven it through five feet of powder, crossed four foot deep rivers and climbed up redwood trees.  I am exaggerating about the trees but it truly was the off road beast of all time.  Enjoy the pics check out videos on you tube by searching Pinzgauer.

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/Truck002.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Skybarney/media/Truck002.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/Truck001.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Skybarney/media/Truck001.jpg.html) 

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/Truck007.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Skybarney/media/Truck007.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/Truck009.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Skybarney/media/Truck009.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/Skybarney/Truck011.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Skybarney/media/Truck011.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on June 09, 2013, 01:18:32 PM
Cool. Not exactly what im looking for in a vehicle but still cool.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Skybarney on June 09, 2013, 02:40:16 PM
Think of what you could do with that beast in traffic!   ;D
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: zooom on June 10, 2013, 08:00:39 AM
why, in the US of A does Toyota put in national ad marketing ( in a predominantly English speaking country) a spanish catch/tag line of "Vayamos Juntos"?
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 10, 2013, 04:55:12 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on June 08, 2013, 05:18:37 PM
so,  you still have your Belgian Diesel Ford?
..was serviced at the usual Ford delaer on Friday for its 180K.

Today... Tuesday... I'm back at the same Ford dealer waiting for them to find the time to take another look at it.  Engine starts....  no CEL...  but only delivers around 20% power - I was barely able to get out of my driveway this morning...  if I persist it eventually - after several kms of limping along - discovers the remaining 80% and comes good... at the same time as proudly proclaiming "engine malfunction"  [bang].



Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 10, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
Quote from: zooom on June 10, 2013, 08:00:39 AM
why, in the US of A does Toyota put in national ad marketing ( in a predominantly English speaking country) a spanish catch/tag line of "Vayamos Juntos"?
Guessing that's a rhetorical question since even a distant Alien such as myself can work that one out.


Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 10, 2013, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 10, 2013, 04:55:12 PM
..was serviced at the usual Ford delaer on Friday for its 180K.

Today... Tuesday... I'm back at the same Ford dealer waiting for them to find the time to take another look at it.  Engine starts....  no CEL...  but only delivers around 20% power - I was barely able to get out of my driveway this morning...  if I persist it eventually - after several kms of limping along - discovers the remaining 80% and comes good... at the same time as proudly proclaiming "engine malfunction"  [bang].





OH
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ungeheuer on June 10, 2013, 10:17:22 PM
Fixed.  They weren't very forthcoming as to the cause.  I take that as an admission  ;)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 11, 2013, 05:32:54 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 10, 2013, 10:17:22 PM
Fixed.  They weren't very forthcoming as to the cause.  I take that as an admission  ;)

interesting . . .
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: zooom on June 11, 2013, 07:07:07 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 10, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
Guessing that's a rhetorical question since even a distant Alien such as myself can work that one out.




KINDA....was also kinda bait for Randimus to come and chime in...
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Speeddog on June 11, 2013, 08:15:53 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 10, 2013, 10:17:22 PM
Fixed.  They weren't very forthcoming as to the cause.  I take that as an admission  ;)

Perhaps they had forgotten to re-align the spurving bearings.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on June 11, 2013, 08:37:24 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on June 11, 2013, 08:15:53 AM
Perhaps they had forgotten to re-align the spurving bearings.

Naww, I bet they forgot to align the carbon weep hole with the slope of the geeb.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 11, 2013, 05:38:26 PM
well, missus got in a few minutes ago . . . a smell of burnt rubber ensued as she parked, went to check alternator belt, guess, loose, it has been on 8 days, by the dealer, OEM belt . ..  car is going back in tomorrow . .
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: LowThudd on June 11, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
Serpentine belt? Probably the tensioner. Should have been checked.

One time a Ford dealer forgot to refill the coolant on my mothers car before they were taking a long trip. Sure enough, even after refilling, the head gasket on the 3.8l V6 blew the head gaskets a couple hundred miles away. Eventually the dealer agreed to replace the motor, but it took me going in there and raising hell for them to agree to it.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 11, 2013, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: LowThudd on June 11, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
Serpentine belt? Probably the tensioner. Should have been checked.

One time a Ford dealer forgot to refill the coolant on my mothers car before they were taking a long trip. Sure enough, even after refilling, the head gasket on the 3.8l V6 blew the head gaskets a couple hundred miles away. Eventually the dealer agreed to replace the motor, but it took me going in there and raising hell for them to agree to it.

two belts, alternator+water pump and AC . . issue is with alternator belt . .. it's being going like this since November
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: ducatiz on June 11, 2013, 07:09:12 PM
I used to have a Nissan Xterra with the 3.5 supercharged v6. Great power but awful mileage.  You could not remove the lhs plugs without removing the s/charger.  Nissan has used this same engine in some form for years.  I test drove an infiniti g35 about 6 years ago and it was the same 3.5 v6 with a much different fuel system and low pressure turbo.

I miss that Xterra. The 4wd was excellent and even with the shitty mileage and crappy engine layout  it was nice to drive.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on September 23, 2013, 03:17:16 PM
Parting out the Jimmy. The engines drinking water.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/null_zps3a9ec22f.jpg)

Im not getting another GM.

http://klamath.craigslist.org/pts/4085737214.html (http://klamath.craigslist.org/pts/4085737214.html)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: the_Journeyman on September 23, 2013, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on June 11, 2013, 05:38:26 PM
well, missus got in a few minutes ago . . . a smell of burnt rubber ensued as she parked, went to check alternator belt, guess, loose, it has been on 8 days, by the dealer, OEM belt . ..  car is going back in tomorrow . .

This happened with a school bus I drove last January.  Water pump had frozen.  Spoke with the mechanic on early duty (it was 0600) and he said and I quote "It's an over engineered Harvester if it gets past the middle of the temp gauge and it's still squealing and smelling call me back.  Otherwise drive it and it'll quit within the next 10 miles as the motor gets warm."  He was right.  It seems International (used to be International Harvester) had a diesel I6 that was crazy bullet proof left over from their Harvester days.  Made perfect sense for a vehicle that doesn't go faster than 55MPH.

Jm
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on September 24, 2013, 08:17:31 AM
And so it begins. The alternator & Battery are out of the car, i clipped the wires to the alternator. This thing is officially dead.

And when I was removing the cast Bracket for the alternator there were three bolts and one stud that didn't allow me to remove the thing without removing the fan first. This time I cheated and bent the stud but that kind of stuff drives me up the wall, the could have just as easily used a bolt instead of making things difficult.

Edit: I just removed the Horn. Any guesses as to what I'm going to do with it?  [evil]
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Ducatamount on February 01, 2014, 04:42:13 AM
Thank you Massachusetts Legislature for forcing their hand.  [thumbsup]
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/automobiles/carmakers-to-share-repair-data.html?hp&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/automobiles/carmakers-to-share-repair-data.html?hp&_r=0)
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: MendoDave on February 01, 2014, 08:27:56 AM
Been looking at OBD2 wireless bluetooth readers for iPad.
Title: Re: Car Talk without Click and Clack
Post by: Skybarney on February 01, 2014, 09:08:15 AM
I clicked on this thread expecting to see a car talk, WTF?     

;D