Removing my charcoal filter this weekend on a early 2000's monster.

Anyone know any current specifics about the California CARB law regarding?

I've researched some documents from the website on it, but nothing for 2013(read somewhere else this was changed for 2013 for ex. no mandatory smog checks)

If i remove my charcoal canister, when and how would i be cited/ticketed if this is in fact illegal still?

Is this inforced at license renewal?

If i resell my bike, can i be cited/penalized for selling a non-compliant Carb vehicle?

In which cases, is the charcoal canister removal reversable?

Thanks everyone! I know, Cali sucks about these vehicle laws (understandable though).

If you do it right.... you can just put it back on when needed.

I agree.

I did however read(on another forum for a different bike) ..

that someone was pulled over for one thing, and also cited for his charcoal canister removal(violation of carb law, california)

but this was all circa 2008...

I've never heard of or seen another cop cite for the canister on a moto. I've cited for CARB violations on street racing cars but they were racing when I stopped them.

Quote from: hbliam on June 20, 2013, 08:38:58 AM
I've never heard of or seen another cop cite for the canister on a moto. I've cited for CARB violations on street racing cars but they were racing when I stopped them.

+1 ..^ this is good to know!!

Like bobspapa mentioned, i'll just remove it the right way. That way i can always put it back on if necessary.

what have we learned here today?




always listen to your bobspapa.

 Also, if a LEO wants to write you up he will look around for things to write you up for!

Thats true

Yea, just didnt wanna be out riding on a nice day and a random ticket happens..

.. or have those ninjas at the DMV sucker punch me in the wallet!

The fact is there is no 'School' for LEOs to become proficient at spotting CARB violations, especially on Motos. On a car that requires smog checks every other year, as well as cats, smog pumps PCV and a bunch of other stuff it is quite a bit more obvious. Even in my old Mustang, which had all of the emissions pulled off, I was cited for the moving violation, but he never asked to look under the hood. I wouldn't worry about it on a 10+ year old bike. There is no way for the LEO to know what should or should not be on the bike. There is no inspection when registering/selling a bike in CA, at least not for sub-2013 bikes.

Quote from: LowThudd on June 20, 2013, 11:04:32 AM
The fact is there is no 'School' for LEOs to become proficient at spotting CARB violations, especially on Motos. On a car that requires smog checks every other year, as well as cats, smog pumps PCV and a bunch of other stuff it is quite a bit more obvious. Even in my old Mustang, which had all of the emissions pulled off, I was cited for the moving violation, but he never asked to look under the hood. I wouldn't worry about it on a 10+ year old bike. There is no way for the LEO to know what should or should not be on the bike. There is no inspection when registering/selling a bike in CA, at least not for sub-2013 bikes.

There are actually moto specific training classes (or "School") for CA law enforcement. A couple of our guys went last year. There are also street racer specific classes.

I have found that a quiet bike does not trigger the need to check emissions.  When I bought my 2013 (2012 build so exempt from new laws) I did Zards (with DB killers) and a cannisterectomy.  Due to not getting a license plate for nearly four months after buying the bike I got pulled over quite a few times (nine) not one ticket not one question about exhaust.....

I admit I was surprised.  It is all about the noise and the jurisdiction.  Ride in San Diego County and I bet you get emissions tickets.  Their CHP office has a mandate to remove all the sport bikes from the roads.

Quote from: Skybarney on June 20, 2013, 09:11:16 PM
I have found that a quiet bike does not trigger the need to check emissions.  When I bought my 2013 (2012 build so exempt from new laws) I did Zards (with DB killers) and a cannisterectomy.  Due to not getting a license plate for nearly four months after buying the bike I got pulled over quite a few times (nine) not one ticket not one question about exhaust.....

I admit I was surprised.  It is all about the noise and the jurisdiction.  Ride in San Diego County and I bet you get emissions tickets.  Their CHP office has a mandate to remove all the sport bikes from the roads.

Fingers crossed the boom tubes with bafflers im installing this summer dont get the wrong kind of attention then!

Quote from: kendallb on June 20, 2013, 09:29:49 PM
Fingers crossed the boom tubes with bafflers im installing this summer dont get the wrong kind of attention then!

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=63268.0

Quote from: LowThudd on June 20, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=63268.0

..Already reconsidering. 

The  twin Zards look pretty nice and no joke about them being fairly quiet.  I had a CHP with his window down right next to me at 75mph (65mph zone) and all he did was look over and smile, pulled over the car in front of me though!