Quote from: Curmudgeon on August 08, 2016, 10:21:58 AM
Your GF would like my custom Sargent built on a stock pan but it cost a bit. After three OEM saddles, became a necessity. Sargent don't make their own for Bonneville because Bonneville people are penny-wise and pound-foolish apparently.  The OEM King and Queen saddle is reportedly good but butt-ugly. (No pun.) The 17" wheel bikes have lower saddles to match. Pretty much all the stock ones are planks.

The T-100 fender is long and keeps me dry but base Bonnevilles and Scramblers have short fenders, so look for one of those.

You come from my old market where I sold $$$ European vehicles. Wall St. and Madison Ave bedrooms were the best for that. Forget NJ for much esle though. Commuted from near the Water Gap where there WERE some decent rural roads and rolling farm country. Roads out my front door are Rte. 6 and 522 which are fun on any bike, little traffic mid-week and few  once you get west of here 30 miles. Wish I could have done it much sooner though!

there are some good roads the further west you head, morris county has some pretty good stuff and as you said, the gap is a good place to ride - I can also head north up to Bear mountain and beyond which offer a lot of great mountain roads. 
as far as the other aspects of NJ, we've got tons of restaurants that rival anything you'd find in manhattan, the beaches are gorgeous if you stay away from the touritsy areas, and i've got one of the best mountain bike parks at Mountain Creek, an hour away with full lift service and like 50 trails..that i can also ski in the winter time. When I still had the KTM, i could take it down south and rip hundreds of miles of trails in the pine barrons. There are actually some pretty good country roads down there as well.  It may be a silly place, but I like it here.  You just have to watch out for the jackasses, and there are plenty of them. They give the rest of us a bad name.

The gap and further west gets rural in a hurry too. My uncle lives in Easton PA, so I head out there every now and again. Easton itself isn't bad, but it's a little quite for me out in those parts though...

As for the bike - I found an LSL aftermarket seat/fender combo thats got an awesome flat track style, but it's spendy and it's probably not very comfortable. I also saw that rolland sands has some pretty nice looking seats as well. I've not heard anything good about any of the stock seats from the bonnie or the thruxton - my brother in law's brother has a bonnie as well, and he's gone through at least as many seats as you trying to find something comfortable.  the thought also crossed my mind of trying to shape the stock seat to my liking and having it custom upholstered as well...i have absolutely no idea how i'd do that though 

Better not to tell anyone about W.NJ but probably too late. The other problem is/was NJ taxes which forced corporate support personnel to commute from PA to their Jersey offices, further snarling I-80, I-78, etc. I lived near Allamuchy Mt. which was good enough to teach a protege of mine to ride. He's made of iron of course but has 16 ISDT/ISDE gold medals.  Believe that's the USA record.

Spencer Great Day to Ride mod is probably the cheapest solution if it works. A lot of people like him. My Sargent cost $400+ and this is a sample similar to mine belonging to a pal. Troy is the contact for custom at Sargent.


Most of that other stuff is cosmetic rather than functional and for people who'd rather "profile" than ride distances. You'd probably want something comfortable if you plan to take the GF along very often. 

Flat track and 17" wheels don't compute in my feeble mind. Had you bought an already tricked out Scrambler..., well..., maybe... 

I dont have a lot of miles on the thing yet, but it definitely feels better suited for backroads trips than putting tons of highway miles on, so I don't imagine running it for hours at a time like i do the monster.  Even less so with a passenger, but she did really enjoy the trip around the block we went on and she's been sending me pictures of bikes all day now...I guess i'm going to be hanging on to the thing.  You're probably right about the flat track thing - it's probably a look better suited for the CL, if i ever get around to working on that thing.  

I've seen a couple of others with agressively chopped fenders that look really nice though - something like this for example, maybe just a little bit more substantial.

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we're gettin ahead of ourselves here though, I still need to get the thing running right.


Also, i have a friend who trains for enduros up in the northwest of new jersey somewhere - but i sold my bike before he moved back up here, and he refuses to show me where it is until i've got a bike.  i imagine it's not exactly legal 

The standard short rear fenders aren't much larger than that. Solo seat not that useful but the OEM solo with rack is comfortable for some and available. IMO lights should be visible or you'll be rear-ended.

Used to ride the ~150 miles of trail, basically everything in green in the middle here. Not sure how legal anymore and risky in hunting season possibly, but it's steep, rocky, rutted and you need serious machinery to think about it. Had a Maico 250 GS and a 440 GS later. I'd like to see someone catch you in there.  https://binged.it/2b9u9er

I know the area a little bit - used to ride mountain bikes up there. It might not be hard to get away, but if you did get caught, i doubt anyone would go very easy on you, lol.  He's running a couple of KTM 300xcws if i'm not mistaken...I used to have a 200, which in my opinion was an almost perfect bike.  Plenty of power, but with plenty of usable torque even off the pipe..and it sounded so good when you got on it.  It was really light too.  The 250s and 300s scared me, but then I was never very good at those things 

I fiddled around with bonnie this evening and after about 2 hours of searching, and googling and searching again, I determined that my bike does not have a vehicle speed sensor, which is what that P0500 code tells me is missing, and it also doesn't have a mechanical connection to the front wheel, so I have no idea how the speedo ever worked...I thought I saw it working the first time I took it down the road for a test ride, but I'm guessing I was paying more attention to how shitty everything else was on the bike that it didn't register that the speedo wasn't registering anything.    I'm waiting on a from Mr. Forchetto at the moment to let me know where to look next.

See you found Dr. F, or better, he found you!  Not a fan of that forum but the community is great once you figure out who knows their stuff. Nicer than Dr. F they don't come. He doesn't shoot from the hip either.

How did your VIN compare to the VIN range he gave you for the speedo? Not sure what's going on there. A 17" wheel bike with a mechanical speedo looks like this: http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20C/Triumph%20Bonneville%2010.jpg

Just had a look again, and it does not look to me like the vins match up, so I guess when i said it looks as if every nut and bolt on the thing has been turned at some point, i probably wasn't wrong - this is bike just got even more interesting...

And you're right - I could tell that guy knew his stuff from the first post I read, and judging by the sheer number of threads i've seen him post in, it does seem like he's a genuinely nice guy and really enjoys tinkering with these bikes and helping out others as well.  I'd say we have a few guys like that around here too.

Dr. F. gave you the VIN range of the bikes with CanBus and all the exceptions. Amazing. So you have a bike with a pre-CanBus engine installed. Will be interesting to see how they suggest you get around all the issues. Makes my head hurt.  Just from what little I know, any fix will be expensive. You could wait for stuff to show up on eBay of course or look in salvage yards for various bits.

Offhand, if you could find a 2010 ECU with tune 20187 on the sticker, you could start there. Then you need a new set of clocks. If the harness is the same, you'd have a tach that way. No clue whether your front wheel is machined to take a mechanical speedo drive. Hermy's should have or can get most of the little stuff to make that work. Not sure what else I'm forgetting.

If the AI is still present, plug it for now at the air box and the throttle snatch might be improved. See above.

Good luck!

the intake looks to be stock, and actually after i cleared the codes the first time I didn't see the p1108 again, so I guess taking care of the vacuum leak fixed that. I'm not terribly concerned with the snatchyness at the moment - it really is very minor and the only real complaint I had for the entire ride. I maybe felt it twice. does the tach also run off of the speed sensor?  I'd be curious if I could just hook one up - we don't have inspection here in NJ so with that and a mechanical odo or small hours meter hidden somewhere I'd be happy - keep it super simple and get rid of all the gauges...probably wind up on the side of the road out of gas on a regular basis though 

 He did say that certain bikes were fit with the sensor prior to going 100% to them, and my case does have the spot where the sensor would sit, albeit without the mounting threads - i'd be curious whether or not there might be a rotor under there for the sensor?  definitely a long shot..I'm going to be getting in touch with the guy i bought it from today, as even though i knew it was going to be a project, i was not expecting this much and I'm no longer so sure I got a fair price.  

Have a look at the sticker on the ECU and see what tune it has. That ought to tell you where it came from and whether it is CanBus specific.

Tunes are listed here on the TuneEcu site:

Early versions: http://www.tuneecu.com/Twin_OEM_obsolete_Tune_list.html

Later: http://www.tuneecu.com/Twin_OEM_Tune_list.html

Cool - i'll take a look at that when i get home - the nice thing about this bike is how easy it is to work on!  i had the whole thing apart in 20 minutes last night, including removing the tank. 

Also, i had no idea how nice a center stand would be. I'm going to need to pick up a Pit Bull stand for the monster now...

Been following your posts on the RAT. Did you figure out what ECU and tune the bike is running (from the sticker)? Give them that info too. Could be a hint about the wiring loom fitted. Might make a difference with the speedo/odo you want to fit. 

totally slipped my mind last night - i'll take a look this evening.

Thanks