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Termignoni ECU install problem

Started by pyriel, October 07, 2019, 10:44:16 AM

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pyriel

will try it tomorrow... if that doesn't work, I'll have to get creative :D
Tune ECU doesn't work for 695 as far as I can see...

koko64

Yeah, swapping the ignition lock/switches with antennas. Pita but cheaper than a reflash or key cloning if you have the right tool to access the torx bolts. I've seen bikes with bolts staked over for security but Ducati now use torx bolts iirc.

Good luck [thumbsup]
2015 Scrambler 800

ducpainter

Quote from: koko64 on October 07, 2019, 01:12:39 PM
Yeah, swapping the ignition lock/switches with antennas. Pita but cheaper than a reflash or key cloning if you have the right tool to access the torx bolts. I've seen bikes with bolts staked over for security but Ducati now use torx bolts iirc.

Good luck [thumbsup]
I think it's a combo of gauges/ecu/key.

I've been wrong before.

Maybe Nick will pop in.
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stopintime

252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Howie

Keys would need to be switched or new keys cloned to match.  Killing the immobilizer would be the way to go.  I have no idea where you would get an ECU flashed in Croatia.  Any local Ducati clubs there?

caperix

Iaw reader\writer from guzi diag will let you reprogram your factory ecu with the map from the performance ecu with only a cable & laptop needed.  I did this on my 848.

DarkMonster620

Carlos
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Ducati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

ducpainter

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”



DarkMonster620

Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Ducati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

pyriel

Thanks for the info and assistance. Tried to switch keys but it still didn't work. I'm taking both to the shop next month to see what is going on, I'll let you know.

pmazdan9

I think koko64 is spot on with the keys. However...

For testing purposes you don't need to switch the ignition. Just switch the clocks and ecu, then bypas immobiliser with procedure described in manual. Here's one for s2r, copied from pdf manual; it could be different to your bike however:

QuoteEmergency procedure to
override the immobilizer
system
If the immobilizer is faulty, follow the
emergency procedure below to start
the engine.
1 turn the ignition key to ON, fully
open the throttle twistgrip and keep
it open; the EOBD light (2) that
turned on, turns off after 8
seconds.
2 release the throttle twistgrip once
the EOBD light has turned off
3 the EOBD light starts flashing. It is
now necessary to enter the
electronic code indicated on the
CODE CARD delivered to the
customer together with the bike.
4 count a number of EOBD light
flashes which is as the first digit of
the electronic code. Fully open the
throttle twistgrip and keep for two
seconds and then release. The
EOBD light stays fixed on for four
seconds: it means that the first digit
of the emergency code has been
acknowledged. Repeat the above
operation until the last digit of the
emergency code has been entered.
If the throttle twistgrip is
untouched, the EOBD light will
flash 20 times, then it will stay
permanently on. In this case the
whole procedure should be
repeated from step 1.
5 After releasing the throttle twistgrip
and if the entered code is correct,
the EOBD light will flash for 4
seconds to indicate that the
immobilizer is now disabled. Then it
turns off. It will immediately turn off
if the engine is started before 4
seconds have elapsed.
6 If the code is NOT correct, the
EOBD light stays on. Repeat the
procedure from step 1. There is no
limit, the procedure can be
repeated as many times as needed.
Note
Each time the key is positioned to
OFF after overriding the immobilizer as
described above, upon the following
key-ON the same error will show (and
engine is disabled again). The above
procedure should be repeated to
override the immobilizer system again
and enable engine starting.

About DIY immo delete. There's not much info on the Internet, I posted on tuneecu forums but no one got back to me yet. I've seen a picture of "Immobiliser" tick box in TuneECU app. I can't confirm it's possible to do it through an app. I've also seen someone posted that it's possible to extract .binh or .xdf, or some other file from ecu using this app I think, and manually amending a line of a code.

Since I fixed my dashboard I'm not doing it anytime soon. It's quite cheap though as app is about £10, and cables about £25 depending on a bike.
'05 s2r800

pyriel

#26
Wow! Thanks for all the help guys!
I've found an electronic shop in Croatia that deals with all vehicle ECU problems. They flashed both ECU's for cca. 90$.
Now both bikes work, just need to do some fin adjustments (TPS reset, CO2, valve position etc...)
So... for the first time... here is my little work in progress... with new sweet sweet sound making machines...  [Dolph]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7e50bjowhhvqcmt/20191026_142927.jpg?dl=0

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800