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S2R 1000 vs SBK dilema

Started by lawbreaker, August 16, 2008, 07:53:58 AM

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lawbreaker

 I'm just looking for input here cuz i'm not sure what to do. I have an '06 S2R1k with 7500 mi on the clock and dig the bike. Recently I bought a 01 996 SPS and the bike is intoxicating to ride. Im SERIOUSLY neglecting the Monster. After talking with ( although kinda one sided) the wife, I may have to sell one of the bikes. I kep comparing the two and how much fun one is over the other and cant come to a decision. I've put close to 3k miles on the 996 since I got her and even though she's tempermantal, waaay too loud, roasts my inner thighs and chugs gas.... I cant see ditching her. I was wondering if an S4RS would be a compromise- for the power, brakes etc....



1098s?


Hell I dont know....... [bang]

Monstermash

Quote from: lawbreaker on August 16, 2008, 07:53:58 AM
I'm just looking for input here cuz i'm not sure what to do. I have an '06 S2R1k with 7500 mi on the clock and dig the bike. Recently I bought a 01 996 SPS and the bike is intoxicating to ride. Im SERIOUSLY neglecting the Monster. After talking with ( although kinda one sided) the wife, I may have to sell one of the bikes. I kep comparing the two and how much fun one is over the other and cant come to a decision. I've put close to 3k miles on the 996 since I got her and even though she's tempermantal, waaay too loud, roasts my inner thighs and chugs gas.... I cant see ditching her. I was wondering if an S4RS would be a compromise- for the power, brakes etc....



1098s?


Hell I dont know....... [bang]

I have the perfect solution for you. Trade both of your bikes to me for my Monster and you'll have the best of both worlds!  ;D
I've been wallowing in my own chaotic and insecure delusions.



"Though I disagree with everything you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it."

LA

The S4RS is definitely not a compromise. Once properly set up and with a DP Termi kit, they will handle, brake and accelerate with anything Ducati has, and up to about 8000 rpm even a 1098.  So far as HP and torque go, take a look at the power curves Brad Black has posted on the Moto-one site in a cross model comparison. The bigger valve heads of the S4RS out power the 996 and hangs well with a 1098 until 8000 rpm and even makes as good and better torque than the 1000/1100 2v.

For me it's the best of both worlds. Much more comfort than a SB, just as good in terms of real world performance as a SB, and once the suspension is properly set up, handles and brakes as well as ANYTHING.

There are some good low millage deals out there on fully Ducati performance kitted models that have languished in the garages.

Having said all this, as delivered (stock), I don't like em nearly as well. 

I am just a little biased though. ;D

LA
"I'm leaving this one totally stock" - Full Termi kit, Ohlins damper, Pazzo levers, lane splitters, 520 quick change 14/43 gears, DP gold press plate w/open cover, Ductile iron rotors w/cp211 pads.

R90S (hot rod), 80-900SS, Norton 850 MkIII, S4RS

red baron

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CairnsDuc

Quote from: lawbreaker on August 16, 2008, 07:53:58 AM
  since I got her and even though she's tempermantal, waaay too loud, roasts my inner thighs and chugs gas.... I cant see ditching her.

Is this the Bike or your Wife your referring to here ?




















I joke, No disrespect to your wife  [cheeky]
I joke because I care  ;D

lawbreaker

Quote from: CairnsDuc on August 16, 2008, 02:47:03 PM
Is this the Bike or your Wife your referring to here ?




















I joke, No disrespect to your wife  [cheeky]
I joke because I care  ;D

If I could trade her in on a better model. I would ;D

Trust me.....

mossimo

Quote from: lawbreaker on August 16, 2008, 07:40:38 PM
If I could trade her in on a better model. I would ;D

Trust me.....

Ouch! 
"Good judgment comes from bad experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment."  Will Rogers.

bryant8

#7
The S4RS is truly a naked SBK.  I've ridden a buddy's S4RS w/ Arrows and DP ECU dyno tuned at 133/75 at the wheel.  That thing can move... best of both worlds!
2008 848
Mods: Full Termignoni Race Exhaust/ECU Tuned by AMS, Ducati Performance Dry Clutch Slipper Clutch, Öhlins steering damper
Next: Öhlins TTX shock and Öhlins fork internals, track body work
26.2 done 12/5/2010
70.3 by 10/12/2011
140.6 by 12/31/2012

Gus Duc

I feel your pain fellow father...... I believe you have four now correct ???  If so, I say keep em' both..... the wife may never let you buy another one.

I faced the same delima when I bought my S2R1K....... seeing as I could only get one bike I chose the Monster & have never looked back.  i do now find mysely REALLY wanting an 848 or perhaps a 998/996 with low miles....... not too sure I can justify it & I feel guilty when I look at the kids & think what I could do with that money :'(





I say you tell the wife you sold the 996 SPS & then stash it in my garage [evil]  I am very fastidious & I'll make sure my kids don't get anywhere near it....... I'll feel like I own an SBK & it will look great in the garage next to the Monster & You'll be able to show anytime & take it for a spin..... sound good ??? ;D

ODrides

This question seems to come up a lot.  My answer is always the same -- it depends what type of riding you plan to do most.  When I bought my 998 in November I neglected the Monster for a few months.  Then once the novelty wore off and I got tired of the uncomfotable position, premium gas, and the seat warmer it was back to the Monster for me.  Mind you, I didn't sell the 998, I just don't normally ride it around town.  Clearly, if you can keep both, do it.  But don't sell the Monster.

kutter

Admittedly you have a real dilemma on your hands, albeit one which I am sure a lot of us would like to have.

The simple truth of the matter is that you cannot have it both ways without having both style of bike. I know that the S4 guys will espouse the virtues of power and handling but no matter how much they want it too, it will never perform like a Superbike, it will be close for sure, but the last 5-10 percent is where it really matters. On a track the difference is abundantly clear.

Now having said that around town the Monster is a much more practical ride than a Superbike. I had an S2R1K before I got my 848 and there are times I greatly missed the upright riding style and ease of riding, but then I get on a really nice road that I can take advantage of what a Superbike is meant to do and I fall in love all over again. I want another Monster and I would be more than content with another S2R1K since it would become my around town scooter but I will never get rid of my Superbike.

Having re-read this I realized that I provided no help to you whatsoever, sorry about that.

ODrides summed it up perfectly, I will go back into the shadows now.
All my best ideas get me into trouble.

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Randimus Maximus

The S4RS has the 999 motor, correct?

IMO, since I have both the 996SPS and a 999, I would stick with the SPS.  [thumbsup]


MadDuck

I have a Monster 900 and a 999 so I can relate a bit to what's going on for you. The S4R(s) would be a great compromise but it is a compromise. I have put a ton of work and money into the Monster and have got it to where it out handles all the other Monsters I ride with. It still doesn't handle like the 999. If I were you (and if you live where you have some good roads) I'd keep the SPS. If I had to sell one of mine logic would say to sell the 999 but the heart would tell me to keep it and ditch the Monster.
No modification goes unpunished. Memento mori.  Good people drink good beer.  Things happen pretty fast at high speeds.

It's all up to your will level, your thrill level and your skill level.  Everything else is just fluff.

lawbreaker

Quote from: Gus Duc on August 16, 2008, 11:35:47 PM
I feel your pain fellow father...... I believe you have four now correct ???  If so, I say keep em' both..... the wife may never let you buy another one.

I faced the same delima when I bought my S2R1K....... seeing as I could only get one bike I chose the Monster & have never looked back.  i do now find mysely REALLY wanting an 848 or perhaps a 998/996 with low miles....... not too sure I can justify it & I feel guilty when I look at the kids & think what I could do with that money :'(





I say you tell the wife you sold the 996 SPS & then stash it in my garage [evil]  I am very fastidious & I'll make sure my kids don't get anywhere near it....... I'll feel like I own an SBK & it will look great in the garage next to the Monster & You'll be able to show anytime & take it for a spin..... sound good ??? ;D
Kid #4 is due around October, I'm just getting flak from the wife........



Of course i'm not the one working the finances, so i'm gonna look into it before I do anything 'cuz I dont want to sell either bike.




GLantern

I would keep the SBK, nothing stirs the soul like those things do.  When i sold my 695 and got the 1098 i admit it is uncomfortable as hell in traffic and short jaunts around town.  I commute regurarly on it though 45minutes to work one way and i say just grin and bear it.  Look at yourself every once and a while when stopped in traffic using a cars window and smile because your riding that italian beauty.  You can deal with a little bit of discomfort and you eventually will get used to it. 

A little heat on the bum?  Get some heat wrap on the pipes. 
Chugs gas?  The mpg is most likely better than your car.
You have to put premium in?  Big deal say $4 for regular and 4.30 for premium thats at 100 gallons $400 vs $430, is it that huge of a difference over time for you?
Too loud?  Well thats so you don't get hit my friend and everybody on the road not only sees you but hears you roaring through [cheeky]


Those are my opinions but its all up to you do what you need to do, but i wouldn't part from 1098 for the world right now, what about you?
"Just ride and never ever look back"


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