I completely know what it is like to be you. I have 3 dogs of my own. I LOVE animals. My neighbor has 4 HUGE great pyrenese & he likes to breed them although he has no breeders license, so on top of the 4 adult dogs, he also always has puppies. He's also a beekeeper & don't even get me started on the bee hives he keeps literally 3 feet from my house. We live in the city, it's completely not legal. But, back to the dogs.. I love his dogs, but they are all about 6 feet tall when on their hind legs, he had a 4 1/2 foot fence that he somehow thought would contain them. His dogs would get out CONSTANTLY & often would end up in my yard. I would do the nice thing & take them back to him. One day, one of his dogs got out & was hit & killed by a lightrail train. After that, I stopped being nice. I started taking them straight to the SPCA & didnt even notify him. Although I also felt like I was punishing the dog, worst case scenario would be they would be euthanized which would be a way better way to go than being hit by a train. After about 3 times of him having to pay to get his dogs back he built a bigger fence & the dogs are now contained.

There was no reasoning with my neighbor either. I say take the dog to the pound when you see he's out. What if another bigger dog is out & his dog gets attacked or hit by a car or something? I personally think you're doing the dog a favor by removing him from the neighbor.

As for the vet bill, is $150 worth the potential drama asking for it could cause?

Quote from: elyse on June 07, 2011, 07:37:11 PM

As for the vet bill, is $150 worth the potential drama asking for it could cause?

how many times do you think he's going to have to pay that $150?

Quote from: ducatiz on June 07, 2011, 07:10:24 PM
Get some dog mace and spray the shit out of the dog every time he comes around.  He'll stop.  He won't like it but if he's loose and attacking people/dogs, that's the downside.

+1 You're a patient guy.

I like this solution. Making him pay likely won't solve the problem, as he hasn't solved it yet. This might make his dog leave you and your dog alone for good though.

I know you have a stash of pepper spray.  You could taze it too!  j/k

Taze it..  some people would have taken it out the first time..  it doesn't always pay to be nice.. I know from fhe..

Quote from: Triple J on June 07, 2011, 08:20:59 PM
+1 You're a patient guy.

I like this solution. Making him pay likely won't solve the problem, as he hasn't solved it yet. This might make his dog leave you and your dog alone for good though.

I know you have a stash of pepper spray.  You could taze it too!  j/k

I wouldn't tase a dog.  Pepper spray wears off and it won't permanently injure them.  However, dogs being dogs, they will forever remember the hand motion.  If he yells something as he's about to spray it, by the third go-around, he won't even have to spray it anymore unless the dog is a real moron.  Pavlov and all.

I am no fan of doing anything to dogs, esp ones like this that just need a better owner.  But when you're fearing for the safety of people or dogs in the neighborhood, it's time to get tough.

Plus, when the dog runs home with a face full of mace, daddy is going to have to clean him off and enjoy the scent.

I'm liking this answer too! Pepper spray the shit out of his pup. I bet that will stop it's nonsense. For that matter pepper spray the dumbass owner too while you're at it! Spraying the dog is not lethal and you're not having it hauled off to the pound to be put down. Win win! This could work!

hbliam, you are a patient man and have done more to accomondate your neighbor and his dog.  If I were you, I would have a camera / cellphone video recorder ready the next time you are out walking your dog, just in case that dog got out and attack you and your dog again.  I know it's just a jack russel.  But just in case situation like your wife fell down due to the dog attack, you would have video proof to back you up.  I hate to see you end up on the short end of the stick.

I believe that there is no bad dogs, just bad owners.  I don't care how good that jack russel is at escaping, the owner just isn't doing enough to prevent it from happening.  I have a beagle and I know too well how he would escape, chasing a scent, and no yelling or screaming would stop him.  So every time he is out doing his business, I will make damn sure he is secured and in my line of sight.

escaping dog

Quote from: derby on June 07, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
how many times do you think he's going to have to pay that $150?

so far he has only had to pay it once... & that was a question for him. I can't nor can anyone else answer it for him....

As for the pepper spray & lasers others are talking about...he already said he didn't want to take the dog to the pound because of the potential trauma to the dog...

Pay your bill, don't ask him. It will get you no where.

Call your local animal control. Talk to them, tell then this is has been on going. (Both the dog getting out and the attacks on your and other dogs.) Keep in touch with them. Tell them not only about the most recent vet bill but your dog was injured.

When you are out walking your dog take an extra leash and a big stick. Keep an extra leash in the car too. If his dog is out and you can leash it, do it and call animal control, they will come pick it up.
(They have low tolerance for people not taking care of their animals or repeat offenders.) Big stick for if it tries to attack you or your dog.

It is not the dogs fault but the owner should be made responsible. If he can't be then he shouldn't get to keep the dog. The dog may be better off with a different owner. Let animal control decide this. 

There are people out there to help you, contact them. You most likely will not get this resolved between you and your neighbor with out the help.
Hope this gets better for you and your family and neighbor hood.

Keep the dog

retrain it

Quote from: Jacob on June 07, 2011, 10:31:01 PM
Keep the dog

retrain it

lol you have come a long way.  I expected you to say shoot it with your rifle.

Quote from: Heath on June 07, 2011, 10:57:44 PM
lol you have come a long way.  I expected you to say shoot it with your rifle.

I like dogs

people...meh

Quote from: Jacob on June 07, 2011, 10:31:01 PM
Keep the dog

retrain it

I think he'd notice.

Quote from: hbliam on June 07, 2011, 11:25:16 PM

I think he'd notice.

call it a life debt

his dog bit your dog

you saved his dogs life by not killing it

his dog owes you a life debt

servitude until the debt can be repaid

simple