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Started by Slide Panda, February 02, 2009, 06:36:37 AM

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Slide Panda

February 02, 2009, 06:36:37 AM
So I snagged a CycleCat top triple for my '00 900 as part of the OnCycles blemish sale.  Though it was a 'blemish piece' it look perfect.. fantasic..

..well not so fantastic.  I went to install it yesterday and the holes for the forks are 53mm ID.  My forks are the normal Monster 50mm OD.  So I've got 3mm of difference in the diameter to make up now.  On to the questions:

1.  Just to make sure - It's fine to shim that much?

2. I'd need 1.5mm thick shims?

3.  Anyone have a good source for shims? 

-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducpainter

#1
February 02, 2009, 06:44:04 AM
Quote from: yuu on February 02, 2009, 06:36:37 AM
So I snagged a CycleCat top triple for my '00 900 as part of the OnCycles blemish sale.  Though it was a 'blemish piece' it look perfect.. fantasic..

..well not so fantastic.  I went to install it yesterday and the holes for the forks are 53mm ID.  My forks are the normal Monster 50mm OD.  So I've got 3mm of difference in the diameter to make up now.  On to the questions:

1.  Just to make sure - It's fine to shim that much? yes

2. I'd need 1.5mm thick shims? yes

3.  Anyone have a good source for shims?  Most just use shim stock wrapped around the tube. Court Jester made a set of ti shims for his


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Slide Panda

#2
February 02, 2009, 07:01:05 AM
Are there any sources for pre fab moto specific shims?

I found
http://www.metalsupermarkets.com
Which I can get shims of just about any description it seems- but there's almost too many options.  Like which grade of aluminum would one use for this.. they have 11 choices for 'sheet' materials
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducpainter

#3
February 02, 2009, 07:05:10 AM
You might be over thinking it.

6061 would probably work...as would any mild steel.

The steel might rust.
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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Slide Panda

#4
February 02, 2009, 07:09:25 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 02, 2009, 07:05:10 AM
You might be over thinking it.

6061 would probably work...as would any mild steel.

The steel might rust.

I always do...

I'm just a little irked that my snazzy triple, which is supposed to have fit my bike... didn't.   >:(
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducpainter

#5
February 02, 2009, 07:24:06 AM
Quote from: yuu on February 02, 2009, 07:09:25 AM
I always do...

I'm just a little irked that my snazzy triple, which is supposed to have fit my bike... didn't.   >:(
Yeah,

I hear you.

It is one of the inherent dangers in buying non returnable close out items. :-\
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


DucHead

#6
February 02, 2009, 07:26:16 AM
No shims, shims...it'll still look great!  [thumbsup]   8)
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Slide Panda

#7
February 02, 2009, 07:30:51 AM
Yeah... but it should have looked great yesterday!  Now I have to track down some shims and dick around with that.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

DucHead

#8
February 02, 2009, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: yuu on February 02, 2009, 07:30:51 AM
Yeah... but it should have looked great yesterday!  Now I have to track down some shims and dick around with that.

[laugh]  It does me good to see people as impatient as I am!   [laugh]
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

Slide Panda

#9
February 02, 2009, 08:04:56 AM
Quote from: pompetta on February 02, 2009, 07:41:43 AM
[laugh]  It does me good to see people as impatient as I am!   [laugh]

That's me! The epitome of patience.   
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

desmoworks

#10
February 02, 2009, 09:51:27 AM
The only logical thing to do here is put some superbike forks on  ;D Well, then you'd have to shim the bottom... oh well  [beer]
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Slide Panda

#11
February 02, 2009, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: desmoworks on February 02, 2009, 09:51:27 AM
The only logical thing to do here is put some superbike forks on  ;D Well, then you'd have to shim the bottom... oh well  [beer]

Lets not open that can of worms...
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

angler

#12
February 02, 2009, 10:39:58 AM
I bought some cycle cat clip-ons off a multi-stroodle and they have the same issue.  I bought aluminum strips cut to the dimensions I wanted from Online Metals (onlinemetals.com).  They didn't have 1.5mm so I bought 2 pieces of 1.27mm (0.05") and 1.65mm (0.065") 6061-T6 cut 1" wide by 6.22" long. The 1.27mm stuff was $0.50/piece and the 1.65mm was $0.56/piece.  That's right, the shipping was more expensive..... I also bought some sheet for some other stuff, mainly a license plate bracket.  Quick turn around. 

Length might be a bit long, but nothing the belt sander can't fix.  If the 1.27mm is too thin, I will try the 1.65mm and if it is too thick, I'll use the belt sander (on low speed with a fine grit). 
996 forks, BoomTubes, frame sliders, CRG bar-end mirrors, vizitech integrated tail light, rizoma front turn signals, rizoma grips, cycle cat multistrada clip ons, pantah belt covers - more to come

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Slide Panda

#13
February 02, 2009, 10:44:26 AM
Thanks!  Those prices are much better than I'd found so far

Yeah I was figuring I'd have to get something a little thicker and take it down to the right thickness.  No belt sander for me... it'll be old paper on a glass + a wood block to press the metal flat.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

angler

#14
February 02, 2009, 10:53:51 AM Last Edit: February 02, 2009, 11:04:29 AM by angler
Well maybe now you'll knock it off with the Grizzly Adams cracks  [laugh]. 

I was just sitting here playing around with my calipers and the clip-ons, and I can definitely spread the clip-on an additional 0.3mm, so I may not need to take any thickness off.

If you want to get rid of your old triple, let me know.  I'm looking for a donor to grind down and turn black once I have my clip-ons installed
996 forks, BoomTubes, frame sliders, CRG bar-end mirrors, vizitech integrated tail light, rizoma front turn signals, rizoma grips, cycle cat multistrada clip ons, pantah belt covers - more to come

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken
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