Other Ducatis' wheels fit on the 696?

[peanut_man]

Hello,

It looks like pjfa is going to get a Ducati ST 5.5" wheel for his 696.  That gets me thinking, what's the compatibility among the wheels on the Ducatis' (or maybe other bikes too?).  It would be nice if I can get a used set of wheels to convert to 180-series rear w/o shelling out $1300 for the 696 specific wheel set. 

Thanks.

More to come:
From Germany (carbonworld.de)


From UK (ebay) rear wheel 5.5 Ducati ST

[Big Troubled Bear]

I got a used ST rear wheel for my 696 and after trying to fit the thing and having a battle I decided to do some measurements.
Lo and behold the ST wheel Hub is 5 mm wider than the 696 wheel, so now the left side spacer and caliper carrier are in for some machining down, other than that I can`t tell you much

The DSS wheels of all the fuel injected models and the ST series bikes are the same, wether 3 spoke or 5 spoke, I have measured them all, so there are no bolt on replacement, some machining will be required.

[pjfa]

Hi all 
Seems it will need some work...

I´m trying to contact a owner from Spain with a rear wheel from ST3.

I let you the pics.



I know that another owner (French) use a rear wheel from a 99 SS

[mrplease]

are you gonna paint that bad boy black?

[pjfa]

are you gonna paint that bad boy black?

Don´t know yet.
I like the way it looks. But, I will put the red wheel stripe 

[junior varsity]

The axle sizes of the bikes change faster than the weather. Old bikes' rear axles were 17mm, then 20mm, then 25mm. So that's part of the equation as well.

Front axles change the same way. Some were hollow, some were not. My axles are 17mm rear, 20mm solid front, I believe.

[pjfa]

The axle sizes of the bikes change faster than the weather. Old bikes' rear axles were 17mm, then 20mm, then 25mm. So that's part of the equation as well.

Front axles change the same way. Some were hollow, some were not. My axles are 17mm rear, 20mm solid front, I believe.

Yes, agree but the rear axle in this case (2004 ST) is a 25mm so as the M696 I think 

[junior varsity]

Didn't know if 696 was the same. Spacers can be made if needed for left-to-right positioning. If its the same size axle as other monsters, then there is Carrozzeria aluminum lightweight wheels available, and I'm sure there's a BST wheel for your bike, if you got the dough.

[pjfa]

Didn't know if 696 was the same. Spacers can be made if needed for left-to-right positioning. If its the same size axle as other monsters, then there is Carrozzeria aluminum lightweight wheels available, and I'm sure there's a BST wheel for your bike, if you got the dough.

Carrozzeria looks nice 
But out of my range 

BST don´t have plans to offer products to M696 but, out of my range too 

From 13.08.2008
Hello Paulo

Thank you for your email and enquiry.  We have not measured the 696 yet and are not intending to make wheels for it.  So I can’t tell you if any of our wheels will fit your motorcycle.  Sorry!  Do you think there is a market for us on the 696?  We thought the bike would be too small for our wheels.


The wheels come with all bearings, rubbers etc. You only need to get a new sprocket to fit our sprocket carrier.

Thanks a lot and good luck,

terry
Terry Annecke

BlackStone Tek
www.blackstonetek.com

[junior varsity]

That question is exactly better posed to MotoWheels than BST themselves because Motowheels is the big vendor here, with intimate knowledge of both the wheels and Ducati's, and they have a project M696. That's who to ask, because likely the wheels can be made to fit.

Then again, if Carrozzeria's are out of the price range, BST's are WAY out of the price range.

[Raux]

Yes, agree but the rear axle in this case (2004 ST) is a 25mm so as the M696 I think 

looks like you need rear tires too. what are you going with?

[pjfa]

That question is exactly better posed to MotoWheels than BST themselves because Motowheels is the big vendor here, with intimate knowledge of both the wheels and Ducati's, and they have a project M696. That's who to ask, because likely the wheels can be made to fit.

Then again, if Carrozzeria's are out of the price range, BST's are WAY out of the price range.

I will, thank´s 

looks like you need rear tires too. what are you going with?

I always liked Dunlop D207 (now D208) but, I´m listen to your suggestion  [moto]

[Takster]

If you get a response from motowheels, please post up and let us know!

Thanks!
~T

[junior varsity]

Dunlops are usually a heavier tire, fyi. If you are going to be putting a 180 on, already heavier you may want to think about this. Putting heavier rotating parts on slows down the turn-in significantly.

One of the vendors on the Ducati.ms site did a comparison of tire-weights in order to prove the point that one may cancel out any benefit of lightweight wheels if they put on crappy, heavy tires. Likewise, one could gain some of the benefits of lightweight wheels simply by changing away from the heavy tires and putting on some lighter weight tires, especially since that rotational mass is farthest out, and makes the biggest impact.

(opposite of upgrading the rotor bolts to titanium, because they are the closest to the center and make the least difference)

He also talks about the combo-wheels where its magnesium spokes & hub, with carbon rim. Saving weight at the outside, where it makes the most difference. Obviously saving weight everywhere would make the bike fastest, but if you were only going to cut it some place, the farthest parts out are the most important: the tire and the rim.

[junior varsity]

Because I thought you would doubt me:

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/showthread.php?t=29854