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Brake/Clutch banjo bolt interference

Started by joshuajcrouch, December 30, 2012, 07:55:11 PM

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joshuajcrouch

Ok everyone I need some help with my brake/clutch banjo bolts.  I have a 2001 M600 and just installed some clip-ons and decided to lower my clocks at the same time.  I cannot get my brake/clutch banjo bolts back on without putting a ton of stress on the lines.

For those with clip-ons and clocks mounted below the triple tree, what did you do about your brake/clutch banjo bolts?  What would be ideal is to get some banjo bolts without the bend.

I did a search on here but didn't see much advice.  Here are the recommendations I could think of:

1) Buy a straight banjo bolt and see if someone local could put the new banjo bolts on the existing brake lines.  I haven't done the research yet to see if someone can do this.

2) Order new lines from Spiegler but I heard they are expensive.

3) I read on here that you can use the lines from the SS?  Does anyone have any more info on this?

4) Any other options?

Thank you in advance for any input.

Joshua

sofadriver

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joshuajcrouch

Here are some pictures per your request:

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The bracket on the brake side is something I am working on.  Trying to fabricate a mount for my KTM Superduke headlight.  The bracket is only going to accentuate the problem.

Joshua

He Man

depending on the length of those, i would flip the banjo end 180 degree (so the hose points upwards) and then run it between the gauge mounts going downward.

this is how i did mine.
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joshuajcrouch

Quote from: He Man on December 30, 2012, 10:08:33 PM
depending on the length of those, i would flip the banjo end 180 degree (so the hose points upwards) and then run it between the gauge mounts going downward.

I like the thought, but this would put my brake/clutch lines right across the top of my gauges.  It would probably block my view of the gauges.

stopintime

Your bike has a single front brake, yes?

I'm not sure there are any SS or other models with that set up...

With only one line, no split joint, and only two banjos - I doubt that even a custom line will run you over $100 all included.
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joshuajcrouch

Quote from: stopintime on December 31, 2012, 07:57:23 AM
Your bike has a single front brake, yes?

I'm not sure there are any SS or other models with that set up...

With only one line, no split joint, and only two banjos - I doubt that even a custom line will run you over $100 all included.

That is right... I only have a single front brake.  I would also need a new clutch line as well though.

sofadriver

i'm not familiar with your bike. any chance you can reverse that line?
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Quote from: sofadriver on December 31, 2012, 08:41:08 AM
i'm not familiar with your bike. any chance you can reverse that line?

Not sure.  Interesting idea.  I wonder if the banjo bolts are the same size on both sides.  I'll take a look tonight when I get home.

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Speeddog

The items on the ends of the lines are banjo fittings.
Banjo bolts are the bolts used to attach them.

You can indeed swap the clutch line end-for-end.

Check the hose routing before you decide, turn the bars full lock each side.
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Quote from: ducpainter on December 31, 2012, 09:49:41 AM
Order a set of bar spacers from Monsterparts and be done with it.

http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Bar-Acc/ADAP.html

Maybe I am a complete dummy.  Can you explain to me how these would improve my problem?  I am not sure how it would help me since my coffin reservoirs have no trouble clearing the clip-on mounts.

Quote from: Speeddog on December 31, 2012, 09:56:39 AM
The items on the ends of the lines are banjo fittings.
Banjo bolts are the bolts used to attach them.

You can indeed swap the clutch line end-for-end.

Check the hose routing before you decide, turn the bars full lock each side.

Thank you for the clarification.  My clearance issue is with the banjo fitting, not the banjo bolt.  I seem to remember that the other side of my clutch line has a straight fitting so that should work.  I cannot remember what the other fitting looks like on my front brake.  I will have to look tonight.

ducpainter

Quote from: joshuajcrouch on December 31, 2012, 10:48:24 AM
Maybe I am a complete dummy.  Can you explain to me how these work?  I am not sure how it would help me.

Thank you for the clarification.  My clearance issue is with the banjo fitting, not the banjo bolt.  I seem to remember that the other side of my clutch line has a straight fitting so that should work.  I cannot remember what the other fitting looks like on my front brake.  I will have to look tonight.
They move the master away from the bars eliminating the interference.
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joshuajcrouch

Quote from: ducpainter on December 31, 2012, 10:57:24 AM
They move the master away from the bars eliminating the interference.

Right now my coffin reservoirs have no trouble clearing my clip-on mounts.  I am not sure if moving them further away from my clip-on bars would help.  Hmmm...

ducpainter

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Quote from: joshuajcrouch on December 31, 2012, 11:04:21 AM
Right now my coffin reservoirs have no trouble clearing my clip-on mounts.  I am not sure if moving them further away from my clip-on bars would help.  Hmmm...
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem.

Let me read your OP again.

edit...

Yeah...I thought the issue was the banjos fouling on the riser/mount.

You're hitting the gauges.

Never mind... [bang] [bang] [bang]
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