Range Rover Runs Over Bikers in NYC, 1 dead

[Slide Panda]

Rhetorical questions.....  Anytime I see a large group of external armor wearing squids I make assumptions......    W

Ah...

And yeah, won't lie and say I don't make the same/similar assumptions

[Lucumon]

Any chance we can amend the title of this thread to be more accurate?

Suggestions:

1. Reasons to buy a Range Rover: the ultimate all terrain vehicle
2. Yuppie pisses off armored thugs, gets beat up
3. Reasons to pack heat in NYC
4. Range Rover Runs Over Bikers, no one dead

[1.21GW]

I've been seeing this all over the web today.  So much speculation and so few facts. Sadly, not the image of bikers I want disseminated to the public (regardless of 'right' and 'wrong').  Really can only conclude:

There's a lot bad decision making in this video

Whenever there is a mix of agression, fear, and survival, all social rules are out.  Glad no one was critically injured.


[Oh, I also vote to have "1 dead" removed from title, for accuracy's sake.]

[ducpainter]

I always get my news from youtube...

[theoneillusion]

Nuts.

So I'm just going to throw some points, speculation, and questions out there.

This video was edited. we can all agree. Why would one of the bikers remove the beginning (showing how this mess began) and the ending (how they assaulted the individuals in the vehicle)? I can only assume (if the original filmer did do the editing) that either they are hiding their actions that caused the event and their actions once the vehicle was cornered or this was in fact the beginning of this particular situation with this vehicle. Right now, I'm leaning toward the later and that the white bike started the escalation. It seems like a good chunk of the "group" is ahead and could care less about this car, save for a few. If I had to guess, I'd say the vehicle may have done some maneuver, such as a lane change, and one of the bikers got their panties in a bunch because "this is their road right now". As far as I can see in this video, recognizing that all I can go on is what I see, the car is driving in a very cautious manner. Obviously I'm not talking about the times that he is cornered and looking for a way out. But just look at the time when the car is running along in the right lane and there are bikers starting to come up behind and beside him, he maintains his lane.

I can't see what is happening after the  the white bike slows down to intentionally cause an accident and everyone is stopped, but I can only assume that they are trying to open the vehicle door. What would I do if I was surrounded by a large group of people with poor judgement, seeking the wrong kind of thrill, and a hostile attitude? I would definitely plow through them. In fact, knowing that I would eventually be cornered in traffic, I would take an escalating amount of measures to ensure the safety of my family.

I'm curious what the police would suggest this individual do?

*I reserve the right to shift my assumptions and thoughts pending any further information on the event

[theoneillusion]

Oh, and I think we can also assume there aren't any Ducatis in this group. They are at the local Starbucks.

[sgollapalle]

HOLY!!!!

A lot of things were wrong irrespective of what happened prior to the start of the video. I could never understand the need to use all lanes of the highway. The group could have kept to one lane, whichever they choose and NONE of this would have even happened!
Not sure why the RR did not lock his/her door after the initial altercation and using off road capabilities on a paved road. Neither does it make sense why the cops were not called.. No one was going to get away after the RR went over the bikers the first time. There are 1ty billion street cameras along the entire stretch of that highway.

[Cody]

I always get my news from youtube...

I get mine from TMZ

[The Mad King Pepe']

First the 12 O'Clock boys, now these guys... you know what? make the beast with two backs 'em! There I said it, they get zero sympathy from me, a mob of make the beast with two backsing squids.

I'm not defending the driver either, but if I had been in his situation, threatened and with wife and child in the car, I might have done the same. But the biker that was rear-ended should have stayed in his lane, as far as I'm concerned his actions are on the same level as the guy in this video:

Motorcycle Messes with Car, Gets Rear-ended- Online Sports

[eric]

Nuts.

So I'm just going to throw some points, speculation, and questions out there.

This video was edited. we can all agree. Why would one of the bikers remove the beginning (showing how this mess began) and the ending (how they assaulted the individuals in the vehicle)? I can only assume (if the original filmer did do the editing) that either they are hiding their actions that caused the event and their actions once the vehicle was cornered or this was in fact the beginning of this particular situation with this vehicle. Right now, I'm leaning toward the later and that the white bike started the escalation. It seems like a good chunk of the "group" is ahead and could care less about this car, save for a few. If I had to guess, I'd say the vehicle may have done some maneuver, such as a lane change, and one of the bikers got their panties in a bunch because "this is their road right now". As far as I can see in this video, recognizing that all I can go on is what I see, the car is driving in a very cautious manner. Obviously I'm not talking about the times that he is cornered and looking for a way out. But just look at the time when the car is running along in the right lane and there are bikers starting to come up behind and beside him, he maintains his lane.

I can't see what is happening after the  the white bike slows down to intentionally cause an accident and everyone is stopped, but I can only assume that they are trying to open the vehicle door. What would I do if I was surrounded by a large group of people with poor judgement, seeking the wrong kind of thrill, and a hostile attitude? I would definitely plow through them. In fact, knowing that I would eventually be cornered in traffic, I would take an escalating amount of measures to ensure the safety of my family.

I'm curious what the police would suggest this individual do?

*I reserve the right to shift my assumptions and thoughts pending any further information on the event

Totally agree. I don't think I would have done much different had I been the driver of the SUV. Those assholes were trying to incite something and totally got what they were asking for.

[lethe]

First the 12 O'Clock boys, now these guys... you know what? make the beast with two backs 'em! There I said it, they get zero sympathy from me, a mob of make the beast with two backsing squids.

I'm not defending the driver either, but if I had been in his situation, threatened and with wife and child in the car, I might have done the same. But the biker that was rear-ended should have stayed in his lane, as far as I'm concerned his actions are on the same level as the guy in this video:

I'm with you.
These make the beast with two backsheads act like they own the road. They block up traffic intentionally to slow it down to do tricks and other nonsense, dicking around with people. I've had to multiple times work my way through groups of morons like this on my bikes. Not friendly sorts, at least their such shitty riders normally that if they chose to chase me, I'd lose the morons in a second.

The driver most likely is an asshole. 9 out of 10 people are. But surrounded by an unruly mob of morons who have already demonstrated that they care about no one but themselves, who wouldn't panic and hit the gas to get the make the beast with two backs out of there?

make the beast with two backs everyone, burn the world. I'm going to go get a drink now....

[duc_fan]

Note to self... keep more loaded mags on hand when carrying... 17 rounds of 45ACP is apparently not enough.

Idiots like these squids p!ss me off.  They give all motorcyclists a bad name.  They aren't "motorcyclists".  They're (*expletive deleted*).  Thugs and hoodlums.  Ne'er-do-wells.  I'd call 'em punks, but that'd be insulting to true punks.

If that was my wife and child in the rig, you can bet I'd do whatever it took to keep 'em safe.

When kids come along, screw the Subaru.  We're driving the full-size diesel 4x4 everywhere, and I'm putting a BuckStop bumper on it.  Anyone on 2 wheels who messes with 7700 lbs of iron and steel... well, Darwin says "hello".    I wonder how much it'd cost to have bulletproof glass added to the truck...

[1.21GW]

Just curious: this thread title started with "one dead", then "no one dead", and is now "one dead" again.  Anyone have a link that confirms either way?

[ducpainter]

Just curious: this thread title started with "one dead", then "no one dead", and is now "one dead" again.  Anyone have a link that confirms either way?

I have no link, but it depends if you quote someone or if you just click reply as to what the subject of your reply will be.

[1.21GW]

I have no link, but it depends if you quote someone or if you just click reply as to what the subject of your reply will be.

Oooooohhh.  I literally read your post 12 times before it made sense to me.  After the 7th reading I thought it was a zen koan so I started thinking really hard about it and who I am and why we are here, but then my head just hurt.  Eventually, I got it. 

Sorry, I'm slow.