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Range Rover Runs Over Bikers in NYC, 1 dead

Started by Plumbers Crack, September 30, 2013, 03:55:26 AM

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Rudemouthsky

The bikers really are looking more and more like scumvags. Still don't care for how Mr SUV handled himself but I find anyone who finds their courage in a pack of colors/uniforms/Greek letters/whatever completely contemptible. Black sheep for life yo.
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Quote from: Skybarney on October 01, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
The second the back door was opened with my kid in the car would be the second someone died.....  No one has a right to endanger a kid in the car or the mans wife.  Good on the cops for putting the bikers in jail.  Sorry for typecasting here but look at the idiots in the picture surrounding the car.  THUGS though and through.

These are little more than street gangs with street bikes.  Toss in the 12:00 boys and it begins to look like a Mad Max movie is being filmed on the streets.  Makes one wonder how far it is going to go.  Clockwork Orange and Mad Max and Idiocracy all rolled into one.  Sad really :(


^^ This.

In my earlier post, please do not misread: I make no assumptions about the decency of the RR driver.  But, douche or not, as soon as his family was threatened, all bets were off.

If hoodlums surround and threaten my family because I couldn't stop my 7000-lb rig in time for one of their dumba$$ stunts, someone is gonna end up dead or seriously wounded.  God help anyone (other than law enforcement) that tries to force open my car door while I'm in it.

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Quote from: duc_fan on October 01, 2013, 12:35:56 PM
  .....Predators understand strength. forceable opposition

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This whole thing really sucks.  Makes me sad.
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coduc

Regardless what you name people like this, if you ride like they do(did) and get hurt (no matter the circumstances) it's your fault and deserve whatever you happen to get.

I feel especially bad for the kid.

It made me a bit sick to see the guy with his Ipad out videotaping this rather than helping....too many people stand by and watch things like this go down rather than helping.

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Quote from: ducatiz on October 01, 2013, 07:24:51 AMNo one has a right to the road.  Let the police deal with it.

Sorry ducatiz, but I'm going to have to disagree with you, vehemently on this point.

Anyone who has a valid drivers license, valid registration, and valid insurance has a right to the piece of road they are driving on.
I would bet at least 50% of the motorcyclists in that group do not have any or all of those 3 items that gives every vehicle operator legal right to the road their vehicle is traveling on.

And finally, unless the driver of the Range Rover could find a nearby Police Precinct, the chances of him finding help were non-existent.
Even if he did call the cops, with that many motorcycles blocking the road, how in the world would the cops get up front in order to help the driver without having to run over the motorcyclists themselves?

BC.

sgollapalle

Quote from: Bladecutter on October 01, 2013, 04:22:34 PM
And finally, unless the driver of the Range Rover could find a nearby Police Precinct dounut shop, the chances of him finding help were non-existent.
Fixed it for ya  ;)
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ungeheuer

Quote from: Bladecutter on October 01, 2013, 04:22:34 PMAnyone who has a valid drivers license, valid registration, and valid insurance has a right to the piece of road they are driving on.
Sorry Bladecutter, but I'm going to have to disagree with you, vehemently on this point. 

Meeting the legal criteria allows a driver the right to access and legally share the public roads system.  It does not bestow any right to the piece of road they are driving on. 

Riding in the apparently aggressive, threatening and lawless manner displayed by those on motorcycles in this video clip isn't legal regardless of what prior legal minimums they do or do not comply with. 

But last time I looked driving your SUV over another road user (even a road abuser, even a scumbag, even a lawless, aggressive mothermake the beast with two backser with no right to be there) also falls outside of your obligation to legal road usage within the right provided by holding..... valid drivers license, valid registration, and valid insurance. 

Quote from: Bladecutter on October 01, 2013, 04:22:34 PMI would bet at least 50% of the motorcyclists in that group do not have any or all of those 3 items that gives every vehicle operator legal right to [share] the road their vehicle is traveling on.
You could very well be be right here though  [thumbsup].

Or wrong. 

That a proportion of these morons may have no legal right to be there in the first place is a separate law enforcement issue.

Quote from: Bladecutter on October 01, 2013, 04:22:34 PMEven if he did call the cops, with that many motorcycles blocking the road, how in the world would the cops get up front in order to help the driver without having to run over the motorcyclists themselves?
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Quote from: DRKWNG on October 01, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
What do you know?  You drive upside down.

Well, that gets cancelled out by driving on the wrong side of the road.

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Quote from: DRKWNG on October 01, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
What do you know?  You drive upside down.
But I do it in a courteous manner in accordance with the law.  Honest officer  ;D.

Quote from: Speeddog on October 01, 2013, 05:27:03 PM
Well, that gets cancelled out by driving on the wrong side of the road.

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sgollapalle

There were different statements from  [leo], one that the group never requested for permission to conduct the ride; and another that they requested but were denied.
Whichever is true, it is pretty clear that the NYPD was "aware" of a possibility of a massive ride taking place. I wouldn't expect them to shut it down, but if they had the information, and the fact that there were some 'incidents' last year; I don't understand why was there not some LEO presence along the route
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GreasySnipe

I'm thinking that there's more to this than just what we saw. The camera was turned on at the moment it was for a reason, my opinion is that the very beginning of the incident was not seen. I'm hoping one of those guys had a gopro running continuously and video'd everything.