Does anyone here have any experience with Danmoto exhausts? Their very cheap. Here's the link to their site.
http://www.dan-moto.com/s2r-s4r-monster-800-1000-carbon-product-272.html?zenid=ktlv286ggtrl4h05h04c7duq73 (http://www.dan-moto.com/s2r-s4r-monster-800-1000-carbon-product-272.html?zenid=ktlv286ggtrl4h05h04c7duq73)
Never heard of them, and the price looks suspiciously low to me. There again it could be a heck of a deal.
Update - look on the Contact us page and you will see
Danmoto Motorcycle Accessories
Nanhuan Road 4025
Binjiang District
310053 Hangzhou
PR China
Given the widely publicised problems with some Chinese goods, and the lack of any legal recourse I would avoid these products.
They might be the best damn parts on the planet, but I'd never buy them since they appear to be knock-offs of other manufacturers' parts.
Gotta love the PRC's indifference to intellectual property laws.
Caveat emptor.
A few guys on Maximum-Suzuki have tried Danmoto's rearsets, and the rearsets required more than a little modification to fit.
just to update...ive read into them a bit and found mostly all good reviews with fast ship times.dont know how
much of a performance increase they will give but I think im gonna give em a try. IM ordering the cf exhaust as
well as a set of clip ons with adjustable rise, I havent heard anything about the clipons yet so i guess ill be
the test mule for those too. with the exhaust + clip ons + shipping = 300.00. dont have too much to loose
so i figure why not. i will be ordering them at the end of the month so will report back on them then.
p.s. i got $2,000 to throw into mods and such so after the 300.0 that leaves me with $1700 bucks what
should i look for next? I also need a set of adj levers, grips, bar end mirrors, new chain, rear sprocket,
rear brake pads and rotor, after that im kind of lost for what to do next, that is if there is anything left after all
stuff i listed. btw i have an 05 620.
Quote from: jccyberdemon on January 13, 2011, 12:16:24 AM
just to update...ive read into them a bit and found mostly all good reviews with fast ship times.dont know how
much of a performance increase they will give but I think im gonna give em a try. IM ordering the cf exhaust as
well as a set of clip ons with adjustable rise, I havent heard anything about the clipons yet so i guess ill be
the test mule for those too. with the exhaust + clip ons + shipping = 300.00. dont have too much to loose
so i figure why not. i will be ordering them at the end of the month so will report back on them then.
p.s. i got $2,000 to throw into mods and such so after the 300.0 that leaves me with $1700 bucks what
should i look for next? I also need a set of adj levers, grips, bar end mirrors, new chain, rear sprocket,
rear brake pads and rotor, after that im kind of lost for what to do next, that is if there is anything left after all
stuff i listed. btw i have an 05 620.
If I were you I'd wait till you have the exhaust in hand before you order any other parts. If the exhaust isn't what you thought you might be spending a little more money on something better. This is just my opinion BTW.
When you start looking at levers there are the staples...CRG, Pazzo, ASV. But some of the folks here have tried the M.Label levers from ebay and most like them. Here's the link for that thread.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=40977.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=40977.0)
I like the CRG mirrors. I have the Blindsight line, they are only 2 inches as opposed to the 3 inch Hindsight line. The only downside is that they don't come in a folding "lane splitter" version. All depends on the look you want for your bike.
Make sure you browse the sponsors list to the left, all great people and usually great prices.
You could also look into upgrading your suspension, not sure what kind of riding you do but I think everyone could benefit from better suspension.
I'm a firm believer in the need to hear an exhaust (in person) prior to buying it. The cans themselves look cheaply wrapped in a CF sleeve.
(http://www.dan-moto.com/bmz_cache/2/2b05a36714330f5ecf0c2dad17ebd2f1.image.300x259.jpg)
The pic of them on the bike is in the dark which also doesn't help much. Try and find someone in your area who might have a set for you to check out. Otherwise, I'd pass on them and not risk being dissatisfied.
I've read nothing but good reviews about their exhaust - google them and you'll see.
Anyone found a pic of these on a monster yet? Keen on seeing how they sit and how long the end up being.
i am going to order a set on the 1st so when i get em on i will post up a pic...
Quote from: Droopz on January 20, 2011, 04:47:25 AM
Anyone found a pic of these on a monster yet? Keen on seeing how they sit and how long the end up being.
(http://www.danmoto.com/Ebay/Items/EX-00137/EX00137_1.jpg)
Thanks, but I guess I should have clarified. Was after a pic of the low mounted set on a 620 or similar. I emailed the seller and he said he was going to forward me some pics. I will post them if they show up.
Jeez... $75 rearsets? It's a shame they don't make 'em for my bike.
I will, however, pass on the $22 full face helmet they offer.
I received some links from the seller today.
(http://danmoto.com/Ebay/Items/EX-00168/EX00168_8.JPG)
(http://danmoto.com/Ebay/Items/EX-00168/EX00168_7.JPG)
(http://danmoto.com/Ebay/Items/EX-00168/EX00168_9.JPG)
Look ok i guess.
They look great I think, I'll probably buy a set when the time comes to replace mine. I'm confused by comments that they look cheaply wrapped in a carbon sleeve, what do you think a termi can is wrapped in? Carbon tube can be bought by the metre.
dont really like the look of the strap/hanger thingy but im not really that picky.
I still think that the CF looks cheaply done. The round bolts that hold the CF sleeve on the can itself look awful and give them an unfinished look. However, that being said these may be the best bang for your buck. I will admit that from this video, they don't sound too bad though.
ducati monster 796 escape danmoto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDRBCw-kMTQ#normal)
it would be nice to buy the best set i could find but my budget is low and i need new cans because the person before
me chopped them down and did a terrible job. They look like shit and they leak all over and in my opinion are too loud,
so im going to replace them with something i can afford. here is a pic of my current cans....
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6985/pic1145.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/i/pic1145.jpg/)
there's a set of NCR/Sil Moto Titanium low mounts on ebay for like 375...
ordered a set of them today so when they come in ill give you an honest opinion of how they work out.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 21, 2011, 09:23:41 AM
I still think that the CF looks cheaply done. The round bolts that hold the CF sleeve on the can itself look awful and give them an unfinished look.
Those are standard pop rivets. Many other manufacturers (Remus and Leo Vince for sure) use them as well...Termi might even for their older models.
pop rivets is also how you affix some of the "female" brackets for dzus fasteners in bodywork. even fancy carbon bodywork.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 21, 2011, 09:23:41 AM
I still think that the CF looks cheaply done. The round bolts that hold the CF sleeve on the can itself look awful and give them an unfinished look. However, that being said these may be the best bang for your buck. I will admit that from this video, they don't sound too bad though.
Bah, the only thing missing from the carbon fiber on those cans is a bit of trim along the edges. A little sheet metal work and a couple of Termi stickers and everyone would be asking where they could get the new slim termi's from!
I never did think an exhaust was worth $1300... and with it sounding like that, I think I was right. Comparison on cost... custom made 2" stainless x-pipe with 3 chamber flowmasters on a 71 chevelle cost me right at $500.
got em in today! actually came quicker than the stuff i ordered from motorcycle superstore and kneedragers. i ordered them on friday and they showed up today. so far they look great and are really light havent put em on yet so dont know about fitment or sound but will post some pics in a bit!
Quote from: jccyberdemon on February 03, 2011, 02:09:37 PM
got em in today! actually came quicker than the stuff i ordered from motorcycle superstore and kneedragers. i ordered them on friday and they showed up today. so far they look great and are really light havent put em on yet so dont know about fitment or sound but will post some pics in a bit!
Want some 'Toomuchmoney' stickers for them?
sure
if i end up making it out tomorrow i will bring them so you can also inspect and tell me what you think
Quote from: jccyberdemon on February 03, 2011, 03:40:34 PM
sure
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5414651448_49e99c9c22_b.jpg)
;D
Quote from: jccyberdemon on February 03, 2011, 03:41:58 PM
if i end up making it out tomorrow i will bring them so you can also inspect and tell me what you think
Sounds good.
Don't listen to Dave...
opinions are like assholes...everyone has one and they all stink. :P
Quote from: Triple J on January 28, 2011, 10:17:04 AM
Those are standard pop rivets. Many other manufacturers (Remus and Leo Vince for sure) use them as well...Termi might even for their older models.
i have found special rivets that are made for exhausts that seal
Quote from: Raux on February 05, 2011, 11:40:26 PM
i have found special rivets that are made for exhausts that seal
Where? Got a link? I plan on chopping my cans. Those may come in handy.
http://www.louis.de/_107475ecd9375d7485ab2f6c824224a471/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=420&wgr=323&list_total=32&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10032199 (http://www.louis.de/_107475ecd9375d7485ab2f6c824224a471/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=420&wgr=323&list_total=32&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10032199)
Yes... this is my 01 M900Sie with D.M. GP cans....Love them ... much lighter ...very well made all CNC cuts & welds...easy install and they sound Nasty ... it will be another 3 months before I dile them in and realise performance gains... piece
http://www.facebook.com/# (http://www.facebook.com/#)!/photo.php?fbid=165425560171513&set=a.101095853271151.489.100001122096896&theater
http://www.facebook.com/# (http://www.facebook.com/#)!/photo.php?fbid=165425146838221&set=a.101095853271151.489.100001122096896&theater
your pics arent working, i will post mine later on today. ive installed them and they do sound pretty good. I do detect a bit of leak around the edges of the cf sleave but
not enough to really say that the cans arent good quality and look nice.
Quote from: Raux on February 06, 2011, 02:17:18 AM
http://www.louis.de/_107475ecd9375d7485ab2f6c824224a471/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=420&wgr=323&list_total=32&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10032199 (http://www.louis.de/_107475ecd9375d7485ab2f6c824224a471/index.php?topic=artnr_gr&article_context=detail&grwgr=420&wgr=323&list_total=32&anzeige=0&page=2&artnr_gr=10032199)
Thanks Raux [thumbsup]
Anyone else got a set of these hooked up yet?
Ordered mine but still waiting, keen to hear what I'm in for.
they sent mine very quick so you shouldn't be waiting long [thumbsup]
Thanks mate. Are you happy with them?
I got bored and belted a few of these out today.
(http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac302/droopzanonymous/Stuff/Toomuchmoney.jpg)
I have them in ESP vectors if anyone would like one ;)
I was going to do something horrid to the dude in the logo bending over, but figured i'd better keep things tasteful.
I have actually been looking into these myself. Can you do pics and video for us? Thanks man!
Quote from: Droopz on February 13, 2011, 10:02:23 PM
Thanks mate. Are you happy with them?
I got bored and belted a few of these out today.
(http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac302/droopzanonymous/Stuff/Toomuchmoney.jpg)
I have them in ESP vectors if anyone would like one ;)
I was going to do something horrid to the dude in the logo bending over, but figured i'd better keep things tasteful.
If you're going to start selling stuff here...
you need to pay up.
The people that run this place do it for free, so if you're cashing in...
we have our hands out. :-*
Quote from: ducpainter on February 18, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
If you're going to start selling stuff here...
you need to pay up.
The people that run this place do it for free, so if you're cashing in...
we have our hands out. :-*
maybe he's giving them away?? [clap] [clap] [clap]thank you ill take two!
$160 for a slip-on S2R exhaust?
GETTOUTAAHEREER!!
I'll take 5.
Finally, we see the real cost of these kits.
im very happy with mine, i got to ride today and they really do sound great.
already had a random person say how great my bike sounded [thumbsup]
I ordered a set the other day so will be interested to see them
they sell on ebay as well , thats where i first saw them
on ebay the M900 which are the same as the s4 sell for $260 US$ free shipping to australia
on the dmanmoto website they are $160 and $100 freight , but there is EMS freight at $51
so $211 US delivered seems good to me
will see in a couple of weeks
Pics and videos please! ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on February 18, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
If you're going to start selling stuff here...
you need to pay up.
The people that run this place do it for free, so if you're cashing in...
we have our hands out. :-*
Never said i was selling them, just that I had the vector files if anyone wanted them. ???
Took me all of 2 mins to make the graphic, it will be the application and painting that will be the hard part.
those two fb links above did not work, anybody have any good high res pics of these on their duc yet?
might be able to post some today....
Had mine delivered yesterday, and I fitted them up tonight.
Sorry about the poor quality pics, I was in a bit of a rush, so i'll replace these with proper ones this arvo.
(http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac302/droopzanonymous/Ducati/IMG_0306.jpg)
(http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac302/droopzanonymous/Ducati/IMG_0308.jpg)
Much better. Fit quality is great. All the external welds seem top quality, with good penetration and are nice and fluid. Inside there are small welds that hold the mesh in place that are a little rough, but will hold well enough.
No leaks in any of the joins, even though I didn't have any damn RTV to use.
They are make the beast with two backsing loud, with a much deeper 'thump' than the stockers. Plus they weight nothing, whereas the Ducati steelies weighed a tonne.
(http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac302/droopzanonymous/Ducati/IMG_0303.jpg)
Only thing I might change if I can be bothered, is a slightly more 'aesthetic' way of mounting the strap to the rear sets.
i had problems at first with the straps and it kept bothering me how it just didnt seem to line up right, i then decided to move the "extender" bracket to the front of the rearset instead of behind, I painted them black first and now everything feels nice and tight and lines up way better imo.
Just edited in some nicer pics...
might nave noticed in the first pic that your bracket that wraps around the can doesn't look flush to the can at the bottom, try putting the hanger extension in the front of the passenger rear set thingy.im gonna email dan moto and see where they are "supposed" to go. they seem really nice and im sure they are open to suggestions so im sure they can change the setup a little bit.
also wanted to say that mine didnt have that big clumpy weld on the inside though if it did it wouldnt have bothered me any.
looks like all they are missing is some rivet straps to make them look professionally built. no joke - the look great for the price, minus the abrupt ending of carbon fiber sans rivet strap.
Quote from: a m on February 23, 2011, 07:46:11 AM
looks like all they are missing is some rivet straps to make them look professionally built. no joke - the look great for the price, minus the abrupt ending of carbon fiber sans rivet strap.
+1
Quote from: a m on February 23, 2011, 07:46:11 AM
looks like all they are missing is some rivet straps to make them look professionally built. no joke - the look great for the price, minus the abrupt ending of carbon fiber sans rivet strap.
I said the same thing back on page 2. And I do agree, for the price they do look great on your bike. Your license plate is hysterical! [thumbsup]
I've actually considered the DanMoto GP Extreme version for my 620, anyone have feeback on those?
I love my megaphones but the mounts are rusting through and figured those seemed like a cheap replacement...
i'd love to see 'em on a bike rather than naked in a picture.
the problem i had with the gp extreme and the conical style that they sell is the strap hanger, They should design it so it has a bracket at the top. Dont think it would look right with a strap wrapping around the outside.
picked mine up today from the postoffice
ordered 16th at night , shipped on the 20th , arrived in australia on the 24th
fitted up no real worries, a 1-2 beer job
the bracket to the rearset doesnt work as mentioned above and you need an extra bolt
i ended up using my brackets from my old pipes , they still need a little tweaking and still waiting on my exhaust gasket to arrive from frasers :(
overall, fairly loud , a nice deep note , my old pipes were quite raspy
i like em, they fit well with the lines of the tail chop, looking forward to a ride with them
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e264/the916man/MarioSpaghettio/danmoto001.jpg)
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e264/the916man/MarioSpaghettio/danmoto002.jpg)
couldnt get my camera to record for mor ethan 15 seconds but here are some quik clips of the sound...
05 ducati monster 620 dan moto 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N0PETAA1Os#normal)
05 ducati monster 620 dan moto 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XitCz1fqTA#normal)
SANY0038 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CNvDYvHuI#normal)
Wow! First of all the bike looks crazy good! Well done!
Second of all, the exhaust sounds nice! Just got to save my penny's now!
I installed a set of danmoto carbon slipons on my 696 about 2 months ago and love it. The bike sounds great, and I get compliments all the time on it. Even the Duc dealer was complimenting it yesterday. I'd recommend this setup to the price conscious riders out there for sure.
Got my Danmoto on Wednesday and thinking should I do the install myself or take it to an mechanic? I tried connected the two ends but can't get it all the way in really tight. I give it one more push tonight but try not bend the pipes.
Wanted to know was it easy to install for you guys are did you seek professional help?
Beside that looks great thinking about getting the gold finish on the metal.
2002 620 monster stock
Thanks...
Quote from: Cati on May 26, 2011, 05:30:09 PM
Got my Danmoto on Wednesday and thinking should I do the install myself or take it to an mechanic? I tried connected the two ends but can't get it all the way in really tight. I give it one more push tonight but try not bend the pipes.
Wanted to know was it easy to install for you guys are did you seek professional help?
Beside that looks great thinking about getting the gold finish on the metal.
2002 620 monster stock
Thanks...
if you know how to use a spanner and a socket, then you should try it yourself. just go slow and have a beer or two while you do it. wear gloves and don't force anything.
I just installed my Dan'moto today and have to say these baby's sound and look really good to me. Sounds like a deep lion roar on Ducati bikes. My friend got the SV650 with the arrows he paid around $600 + install fee the Danmoto was around $250. We ramp them up side by side and the Danmoto was not backing down a bit. I leave it at that. I live in NYC and rode down Broadway on the West Side, I say about 2 blocks away I seen heads turning like "them damn Ducati's" and I pass by hitting it harder [Dolph] just to seal the deal Danmoto + 620 Monster rocks for the price I paid. I had the stock exhaust on and changing from that, I notice some difference it performance.
i just order a set of danmoto gp's for my 03 630, ill post some pics and vids of them after they arrive.
do we know of anyone that has ordered the s2r s4r setup yet?
So far I have purchased a speedo and some adjustable clip-ons from Dano. The link for the speedo is below. I have to reflash my ECU in order to use it. This will add another 200.00 to the 110.00 I spent on it. I just got an email stating that part of the clip-ons have been recalled, but they have re-enginered it and are sending me a replacement. I have had no problems with the clip-ons so it should be interesting to see how the improved them.
I LOVE the bars. They have more positions to choose from then a Vietnamese hooker. I asked them why they pulled them from their site and they said that it was because they were re-designing them, so check back later. They are worth it. I will let you know on the speedo as soon as I tackle it.
http://www.dan-moto.com/danmoto-180-digital-cockpit-product-389.html?zenid=jjjail6k7ut8vonnokfhld0o02 (http://www.dan-moto.com/danmoto-180-digital-cockpit-product-389.html?zenid=jjjail6k7ut8vonnokfhld0o02)
and put up pictures, D!
J,
I will take some pics in the am and post'em up! I will also post the replacement parts when I get them.
D
Just got these Dano for my 696 [thumbsup] they sound and looks awesome. I'll post some pics tomorrow.
Got some odd looks from the neighbors as I was testing it out. He never popped his head out before. I guess its loud enough. [evil]
Just put in the order for a set of Conicals for my M750. $208 shipped...can't wait to see them. [Dolph]
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae71/datdudeHX/Blogs/IMG_20110602_121607.jpg)
(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae71/datdudeHX/Blogs/IMG_20110602_121715.jpg)
Here's my 696 with the DanMoto CF exhaust. I have both the Dark & Blue skins for my bike, so here are pics of both colors....
(http://gallery.me.com/chrishargrove/100097/BlueHDRMonster/web.jpg)
(http://gallery.me.com/chrishargrove/100097/BlackHDRMonster2/web.jpg)
(http://gallery.me.com/chrishargrove/100097/BlackHDRMonster1/web.jpg)
Quote from: ChrisH on June 03, 2011, 07:26:11 AM
(http://gallery.me.com/chrishargrove/100097/BlackHDRMonster2/web.jpg)
Killer!
That exhaust looks horrible. All of the Dan moto's. I guess you get what you pay for though.
This is not meant to flame, just my opinion.
I think it needs a chop or the cans brought forward to flush the rear of the bike.
with a tail chop, yes the cans are too long. with the stock tail they are correct.
i had to chop my cans from Roads Italia as well because i ran a short tail.
needs strap around rivets or i wouldn't ever come close to buying it. looks unfinished and amateur otherwise to me, and while it would be possible for me to do this myself, I don't feel like - i want it done from the get-go.
Quote from: Javamoose on June 01, 2011, 11:27:44 PM
Just put in the order for a set of Conicals for my M750. $208 shipped...can't wait to see them. [Dolph]
Please post pics... I'm eying these for my M900.
///'Bout had it with hi-mounts... tighten, re-hang, straighten, tighten... re-hang, tighten, straighten... and on and on and on....
Quote from: j v on June 06, 2011, 11:40:58 AM
needs strap around rivets or i wouldn't ever come close to buying it. looks unfinished and amateur otherwise to me, and while it would be possible for me to do this myself, I don't feel like - i want it done from the get-go.
We all have different priorities and likes. For me price was of course a concern just because I dont see the value in spending $1k+ on slipons, but I actually like the kind of unfinished & rougher edges, it looks more monstery to me.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on June 06, 2011, 01:13:27 PM
Please post pics... I'm eying these for my M900.
///'Bout had it with hi-mounts... tighten, re-hang, straighten, tighten... re-hang, tighten, straighten... and on and on and on....
Just got them in today, holy crap are these things compact and light!! HUGE difference over the massive stock cans. Even with them being light, they feel VERY solid.
First impressions: Decent packaging, no damage during shipping. Quality looks good, nice welds with (what looks like) good penetration. Stainless looks nice, some little imperfections on blended areas, but you really gotta be looking. The seem where the rolled steel was joined could be a bit smoother - but that's on the underside of the cans. Intermediate pipe looks nice. Springs from can to intermediate pipe look good...we'll see how they hold up (they don't look like stainless, but they could be).
Few "bad" things that stick out right away: Hanger, it is just meh, not terrible but could be improved. It's stainless as well, all the holes in the strap are countersunk/chamfered and everything has a good edge-break on it, no burrs. But still, hanger is kinda...cheap feeling - though I am not totally sure how I would improve it.
Second issue - holy 'eff it is hard, neigh on impossibly tight, to get the intermediate to slip into the muffler/can. I think I am going to have to hit the edge of the pipe with some sandpaper to give it a chamfer so I can slip the cans on. Could use a little fit & finish on that interface.
Personal opinion time: I paid $208 shipped - even with the little nit picks and without knowing how they will hold up long-term - I am very happy with my purchase. I've always thought there is no good reason why motorcycle exhausts need to cost so much more than automotive exhausts for hos simple and small they are. These cans, to me, prove that. Install pics will come this weekend, video of them with the bike running will be shortly after that (likely in my own thread about these cans) once I finish some other maintenance.
For now, take a look (ignore my grubby fingerprints on the cans):
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5144/5811395696_2b53a49df8_z.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5141/5811395396_88cd1b2254_z.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2032/5810831207_7226a90083_z.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/5811394878_0419e4345a_z.jpg)
(Weld on the bottom of the can, trick of the light makes it look worse than it is. It's a solid weld, just a little messy.)
Quote from: Heath on June 06, 2011, 10:41:52 AM
That exhaust looks horrible. All of the Dan moto's. I guess you get what you pay for though.
This is not meant to flame, just my opinion.
All carbon fiber exhausts look like fetid hunks of elephant shit.
This is not meant to flame, just my opinion.
Quote from: Javamoose on June 08, 2011, 01:55:18 AM
Install pics will come this weekend, video of them with the bike running will be shortly after that (likely in my own thread about these cans) once I finish some other maintenance.
Eagerly awaiting, and thanks for the review.
Quote from: Javamoose on June 08, 2011, 02:31:19 AM
All carbon fiber exhausts look like fetid hunks of elephant shit.
This is not meant to flame, just my opinion.
Hmmm
(http://www.heyokamagazine.com/Elephant%20dung.jpg) (http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/1098/ducati_1098_1198_848_slipon_exhaust_scarichi_sc_project.jpg)
Quote from: ducatiz on June 10, 2011, 07:58:38 AM
Hmmm
(http://www.heyokamagazine.com/Elephant%20dung.jpg) (http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/1098/ducati_1098_1198_848_slipon_exhaust_scarichi_sc_project.jpg)
I can totally see the resemblance.
Quote from: ducatiz on June 10, 2011, 07:58:38 AM
Hmmm
(http://www.heyokamagazine.com/Elephant%20dung.jpg) (http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/1098/ducati_1098_1198_848_slipon_exhaust_scarichi_sc_project.jpg)
[laugh] That dung is no where near fetid enough, hence the difference in appearance.
Ended up not having enough time this weekend, but, as promised - here are pics of the cans on my M750. The mounts aren't on yet, but this as least gives an idea of how they fit/look/sit on the bike.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5318/5827222010_6c6d9d2f5f_z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/5827222324_0c65068b10_z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/5826670511_5907e54085_z.jpg)
I give them a big [thumbsup] - I LOVE the way they look, they are super light and just the right (IMHO) length...can't wait until I finish the rest of the work on my bike so I can hear these bad boys...
they don't look bad at all.. i wonder how that would fare on an SS?
Why put a low budget pipe on a jewel of a motorcycle? I agree that the price of cans are more than they should be but I know we have all paid a lot of money to own Ducati's. If you are only looking for sound then I guess I can understand saving hundreds on these and having more money to use for other upgrades. But the look is sub par compared to the other pipes that are out there from the established exhaust makers. This is just my opionion and not made as a flame to anyone on here. If you are happy that is all that matters, but my $200+ will go towards a different exhaust.
Some of the best mods are home-made, some are artisan-made and some are Chinese slave labor made. If everyone only bought the same crap, well.. why bother?
Quote from: joeracer355 on June 13, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
Why put a low budget pipe on a jewel of a motorcycle? I agree that the price of cans are more than they should be but I know we have all paid a lot of money to own Ducati's. If you are only looking for sound then I guess I can understand saving hundreds on these and having more money to use for other upgrades. But the look is sub par compared to the other pipes that are out there from the established exhaust makers. This is just my opionion and not made as a flame to anyone on here. If you are happy that is all that matters, but my $200+ will go towards a different exhaust.
Well, one, I only paid $2,800 for my Duc...so, not really Ferrari prices here.
Speaking solely for the Conicals I bought - There is nothing - nothing - different about these cans and connecting pipe (mounts, sure, but that's it) than a $500-$800 pair. So, I call B.S. - A nicer mounting strap and a badge and these could be Arrow/MIVV/Termingoni/Et. al. and y'all would be saying how amazing they look.
My extra $300 saved will go towards a pair of the best rubber I can buy - something that actually makes a damn difference. [thumbsup]
Quote from: ducatiz on June 13, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
Some of the best mods are home-made, some are artisan-made and some are Chinese slave labor made. If everyone only bought the same crap, well.. why bother?
You mean like everybody and their Brother running Termi's? ;D
Quote from: Javamoose on June 13, 2011, 10:10:30 PM
My extra $300 saved will go towards a pair of the best rubber I can buy - something that actually makes a damn difference. [thumbsup]
$300 for a pair of rubbers?
I get a whole box of trojans for about $7.
Quote from: ducatiz on June 13, 2011, 10:11:59 PM
$300 for a pair of rubbers?
I get a whole box of trojans for about $7.
Oh, yeah? Those must be the little ones. [coffee]
[laugh]
Microscopic!
I'm in the $2,500 CraigsList Ducati club... ballin' on a budget over here. It's very difficult to justify spending the $800 or $900 on the gorgeous Sil megaphones that I've lusted after for three years when they're about a third of the bike's total purchase price.
$250 including shipping for something similar? Sign me up.
Besides, I'm just gonna rash 'em up anyway. I won't feel nearly as bad laying rattle-can Krylon on my DanMotos six months from now.
Quote from: Javamoose on June 13, 2011, 10:10:30 PM
Well, one, I only paid $2,800 for my Duc...so, not really Ferrari prices here.
Speaking solely for the Conicals I bought - There is nothing - nothing - different about these cans and connecting pipe (mounts, sure, but that's it) than a $500-$800 pair. So, I call B.S. - A nicer mounting strap and a badge and these could be Arrow/MIVV/Termingoni/Et. al. and y'all would be saying how amazing they look.
Well said.
Quote from: Javamoose on June 12, 2011, 07:53:56 PM
Ended up not having enough time this weekend, but, as promised - here are pics of the cans on my M750. The mounts aren't on yet, but this as least gives an idea of how they fit/look/sit on the bike.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5318/5827222010_6c6d9d2f5f_z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/5827222324_0c65068b10_z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/5826670511_5907e54085_z.jpg)
I give them a big [thumbsup] - I LOVE the way they look, they are super light and just the right (IMHO) length...can't wait until I finish the rest of the work on my bike so I can hear these bad boys...
Those cans look great [thumbsup].
By which I mean.... Those cans look great [thumbsup].
Not.... those cans look great.. for the price. And not...those cans look great... considering they're Chinese.
Those cans look great. Period.
Look nice. I think with the money saved, some minor modifications they could be really cool.
looks like it's time for a new mid-pipe friend. the shiny new cans make that midpipe look even worse :/
Quote from: corey on June 16, 2011, 09:19:49 AM
looks like it's time for a new mid-pipe friend. the shiny new cans make that midpipe look even worse :/
Tell me about, trying to figure out what I'm going to do with that... [thumbsdown]
Quote from: Javamoose on June 16, 2011, 11:33:13 PM
Tell me about, trying to figure out what I'm going to do with that... [thumbsdown]
wire brush on a drill or sandblast
then paint , bbq paint is often a common one to use
Quote from: Javamoose on June 16, 2011, 11:33:13 PM
Tell me about, trying to figure out what I'm going to do with that... [thumbsdown]
Look Here
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43917.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43917.0)
Thanks for those tips, I'll give both of those options a shot and see what works best.
Back OT - I'll put up a sound clip this weekend for those DanMoto cans... [thumbsup]
Holy shit, they're loud! ;D Set off a few car alarms zipping down my street. [evil]
EDIT:
Few more pictures on them fully installed:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5315/5851191639_6f672cb580_z.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/5851743634_107c5ae17a_z.jpg)
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3396/5851743912_97fac25eee_z.jpg)
Video:
Ducati Monster 750 - DanMoto Conical Exhaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEmmbzT5I6s&hd=1#normal)
Ducati Monster 750 - DanMoto Stainless Conical Exhausts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOdbkNtT1rU&hd=1#normal)
(after I pull away, skip to 1:25 to hear my coming back up the street and turning into my buildings parking lot)
Quote from: slauster on May 29, 2011, 04:58:30 AM
do we know of anyone that has ordered the s2r s4r setup yet?
I have the same question. I am definitely considering a set of the Danmoto carbon fiber pipes for my S2R 1K. I read this entire thread twice, and most everybody who bought them seems pleased. [thumbsup]
Well, except for the elephant dung comment. [laugh]
Your Danmoto pipes look good. Do the pipes get so hot that you need a heat shield for the passenger? Had any trouble with the carbon fiber coming unravaled? I'm trying to decide between the carbon fiber or the titanaium pipes for my S2R 1K.
Had to get my wife's approval before I ordered a set of Danmoto carbon fiber pipes for my S2R 1K. I showed her a picture of these $160.00 pipes from China, and she said "Just get the original Ducati pipes." I then showed her a set of Termignoni pipes for $2,000 plus, and she said "Order the Chinese ones!"
I just bought her a new 2011 Camry in May, so approval wasn't a huge problem.
But since I bought her a Camry, perhaps I deserve a new Diavel ???
You didn't happen to mention the termis come w air filter and ecu did you? Or that the 2k system would be a full system? Just sayin, not really a good comparison...
Quote from: j v on July 04, 2011, 10:45:07 AM
You didn't happen to mention the termis come w air filter and ecu did you? Or that the 2k system would be a full system? Just sayin, not really a good comparison...
Like my wife would know what that was? [laugh] I already run a K&N air filter.
Really, I never considered buying any other exhaust except for the Marving Cat eliminator pipe because in my opinion, they are all way too expensive.
Now I can still make the house and Camry payment. ;D
It's all in the sell, "we need it, buying it as a package avoids spending the money twice, you wont have to listen to me ask for the upgraded versio down the road if we fet it the first time, thereby ultimately enabling you to get more shoes!"
Quote from: j v on July 04, 2011, 11:14:13 AM
It's all in the sell, "we need it, buying it as a package avoids spending the money twice, you wont have to listen to me ask for the upgraded versio down the road if we fet it the first time, thereby ultimately enabling you to get more shoes!"
So a full termi system for an S2R 1K runs about what, $2500.00?
Danmoto pipes = $160 plus Marving header = $350.00 plus Fat Duc O2 manipulator = $80.00 plus shipping = $100.00 for a grand total of $690.00.
Let's see, $2500 minus $690 = $1810.00, or about about 30 pairs of shoes. You are correct [thumbsup] I can buy shoes.
Truthfully, if I were made of money, I would probably buy a new Diavel and some termis [thumbsup] [Dolph]
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 04, 2011, 01:02:56 PM
So a full termi system for an S2R 1K runs about what, $2500.00?
Danmoto pipes = $160 plus Marving header = $350.00 plus Fat Duc O2 manipulator = $80.00 plus shipping = $100.00 for a grand total of $690.00.
Let's see, $2500 minus $690 = $1810.00, or about about 30 pairs of shoes. You are correct [thumbsup] I can buy shoes.
Truthfully, if I were made of money, I would probably buy a new Diavel and some termis [thumbsup] [Dolph]
but you're funding the COMMUNISTS!!
lol
Hello??? have you checked the bottom of everything now a days? we're all are funding the communists [laugh]
Quote from: datdude on July 05, 2011, 08:24:37 AM
Hello??? have you checked the bottom of everything now a days? we're all are funding the communists [laugh]
i looked at my bottom and i don't understand, i just see pale skin and fuzz
One better than funding a terrorist? [thumbsup]
My wife and I installed the Danmoto carbon slip-ons on her M696 today. Here's my $0.02:
The good:
The cans are beautiful. Seriously nice-looking equipment - the finish isn't perfect, but they're going to get dirty anyway. The end caps are a nice stainless, the rivets are even, and the carbon fibre is a nice weave. One of the elbows had a bit of a pinch on the flange; made it tough to "slip" over the mating flange. No biggie, a bit of BF&I sorted that out. They mount in very nearly the stock attitude - much lighter (a few pounds per side) than stock, much smaller and cleaner than stock. And they sound completely incredible.
Do not be fooled: these little bastards are loud. Like "never riding without earplugs ever again" loud. But a very nice, deep, throaty loud - like Termis. I actually think I like the Danmoto's sound better than the carbon Termis, which doesn't hurt. But be aware that they are loud. If you're looking for something just slightly louder than stock, you will not like these cans. Did I mention that they're loud? It sounds like Thor himself is banging on the wall in our parkade - and holy crap do they ever have an amazing growl at 8k RPM.
My wife's note: "I didn't think it would be possible to be even more in love with this bike!"
The bad:
The mounting hardware sucks out loud. The hangers are cut / drilled strips of stainless, and there is a drilled chunk of stainless about 2.5" long to connect them to the stock mounting point since bands + the stock position would leave around 90% of the exhaust unsupported. Although the nut and bolt that they include for this purpose are nice stainless units, it's not a locking nut. Going to have to re-visit the bike with some loctite in the near future. Also, I cut the shit out of my thumb. [bang]
The springs they supply with the kit are junk. The spring hooks on the elbows are positioned such that springs rattle against the pipes. If they weren't so freaking loud, you could probably even hear them do it! [Dolph]
Conclusion:
For $160, you absolutely will not be disappointed. They look great, they sound great, they're easy to install. The mounting hardware could be better - and hell, for the $1k difference between these and Termis you could invest in having something nicer made - but use some loctite when you're putting them together and they'll be fine. Wear earplugs. Did I mention that they sound freaking amazing?
edit: now with 100% more photos
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5926880892_c5e769d6b4_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6134/5926879960_b959db54aa_b.jpg)
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Quote from: mattfwalters on July 10, 2011, 11:47:50 PM
It sounds like Thor himself is banging on the wall in our parkade - and holy crap do they ever have an amazing growl at 8k RPM.
[laugh] Well put! If they fixed their mounting system, a lot of other exhaust mfg's out there would really be in trouble.
Now if they offered a full set of spaghetti headers, stainless, for around $300-$500 - they would be putting people out of business.
Quote from: mattfwalters on July 10, 2011, 11:47:50 PM
My wife and I installed the Danmoto carbon slip-ons on her M696 today. Here's my $0.02:
The good:
The cans are beautiful. Seriously nice-looking equipment - the finish isn't perfect, but they're going to get dirty anyway. The end caps are a nice stainless, the rivets are even, and the carbon fibre is a nice weave. One of the elbows had a bit of a pinch on the flange; made it tough to "slip" over the mating flange. No biggie, a bit of BF&I sorted that out. They mount in very nearly the stock attitude - much lighter (a few pounds per side) than stock, much smaller and cleaner than stock. And they sound completely incredible.
Do not be fooled: these little bastards are loud. Like "never riding without earplugs ever again" loud. But a very nice, deep, throaty loud - like Termis. I actually think I like the Danmoto's sound better than the carbon Termis, which doesn't hurt. But be aware that they are loud. If you're looking for something just slightly louder than stock, you will not like these cans. Did I mention that they're loud? It sounds like Thor himself is banging on the wall in our parkade - and holy crap do they ever have an amazing growl at 8k RPM.
My wife's note: "I didn't think it would be possible to be even more in love with this bike!"
The bad:
The mounting hardware sucks out loud. The hangers are cut / drilled strips of stainless, and there is a drilled chunk of stainless about 2.5" long to connect them to the stock mounting point since bands + the stock position would leave around 90% of the exhaust unsupported. Although the nut and bolt that they include for this purpose are nice stainless units, it's not a locking nut. Going to have to re-visit the bike with some loctite in the near future. Also, I cut the shit out of my thumb. [bang]
The springs they supply with the kit are junk. The spring hooks on the elbows are positioned such that springs rattle against the pipes. If they weren't so freaking loud, you could probably even hear them do it! [Dolph]
Conclusion:
For $160, you absolutely will not be disappointed. They look great, they sound great, they're easy to install. The mounting hardware could be better - and hell, for the $1k difference between these and Termis you could invest in having something nicer made - but use some loctite when you're putting them together and they'll be fine. Wear earplugs. Did I mention that they sound freaking amazing?
edit: now with 100% more photos
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5926880892_c5e769d6b4_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6134/5926879960_b959db54aa_b.jpg)
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I just finished installing my carbon fiber pipes on my S2R 1000, and I would agree with everything you said. However, I will not need ear plugs because I have had excellent seats for Blue Oyster Cult, Zeppelin, Heart, Petty, and the Alman Brothers. [thumbsup] But the pipes are F### LOUD. So far I'm happy with them, but the true test of quality will come after a couple thousand miles or so. Pics to follow
They wouldn't be putting anyone out of business. I'm sorry, these things cost ~$200 and look like they cost about $20. Fine for a track bike but they're hardly giving Termi, Arrow, Zard or even QD any reason to panic.
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 11, 2011, 04:07:55 PM
They wouldn't be putting anyone out of business. I'm sorry, these things cost ~$200 and look like they cost about $20. Fine for a track bike but they're hardly giving Termi, Arrow, Zard or even QD any reason to panic.
Okay, since I'm already an idiot for paying $200.00 for $20.00 pipes, does any body have the idiot's guide to posting pics on this site?
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 11, 2011, 04:41:03 PM
Okay, since I'm already an idiot for paying $200.00 for $20.00 pipes, does any body have the idiot's guide to posting pics on this site?
[laugh] [laugh]
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0)
Quote from: mattfwalters on July 10, 2011, 11:47:50 PM
edit: now with 100% more photos
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Technically not, since 100% of zero is still zero.
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp539%3C3%3Enu%3D9544%3E578%3E257%3EWSNRCG%3D33%3B872%3B2%3A9348nu0mrj)
S2R 1K with Danmoto Carbon Slip-ons
I like the way they look and sound.
My wife and kids can hear me coming and they open the garage door for me. ;D
Next Mod - Marving header and Fat Duc O2 Manipulator
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53983%3Enu%3D9544%3E578%3E257%3EWSNRCG%3D33%3B8735532348nu0mrj)
Extreme close-up
They look big. But I like them. How was the install? Any snags? Also, can you post a full side shot of the bike? Thanks!
Personal opinion - the S2r setup looks top-notch. I much prefer it to the double-underseat setup on the 696/1100 shown above... they look too skinny to me in that application.
I can see where some people are getting their comments about appearing "cheap" - I think the CF versions would look better with a rivet strap, as others have mentioned.
I'm still lusting after the lo-mount conicals for the DSS setup. Anyone wanna cash out my rashed Remus Ti hi-mounts to make this happen?
Quote from: dropstharockalot on July 12, 2011, 05:17:57 AM
Personal opinion - the S2r setup looks top-notch. I much prefer it to the double-underseat setup on the 696/1100 shown above... they look too skinny to me in that application.
I can see where some people are getting their comments about appearing "cheap" - I think the CF versions would look better with a rivet strap, as others have mentioned.
I'm still lusting after the lo-mount conicals for the DSS setup. Anyone wanna cash out my rashed Remus Ti hi-mounts to make this happen?
The only snags with the install was that I had to drill a bigger hole in the the strap that holds the cans to the frame, and there were no bolts and nuts provided to attach the cans to the mounting straps. I chose to use the stock S2R clamps to attach the pipes to the cat eliminator.
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 11, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
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I gotta say that they look really good. The pic on their site left me wanting a bit more but I do like them for the price.
Are you going to put on some heal guards on them to prevent your boots from melting?
Thanks! I don't think I'll need any heat protectors. I rode last night for about five miles in shorts and tennis shoes and I didn't feel hot. Of course, I live in the So Cal desert and it's been around 110 degrees this week. Perhaps the sun was hotter than the pipes? [laugh]
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 11, 2011, 04:07:55 PM
They wouldn't be putting anyone out of business. I'm sorry, these things cost ~$200 and look like they cost about $20. Fine for a track bike but they're hardly giving Termi, Arrow, Zard or even QD any reason to panic.
Emphasis mine. Bullshit, ANY manufacturer sweats the increasing quality and steady low cost products coming out of China. If they don't, they are naive - in this economy, you get people looking to get the things that make them happy at a price that fits with tighter budgets.
As someone who is super happy with my conicals, do you really think I'm not going to keep an eye on DanMoto to see what other products they release? Of course I am and should something else come up that I want/need to add, I will be comfortable buying from them again.
I just don't get the attitude. Is it an anti-Chinese thing? It certainly can't be a USA first thing, because that would be really hypocritical what with our Italian bikes and the aftermarket manufacturers based in the UK, Germany, Italy, Etc.
Quote from: Javamoose on July 13, 2011, 01:31:10 AM
Emphasis mine. Bullshit, ANY manufacturer sweats the increasing quality and steady low cost products coming out of China. If they don't, they are naive - in this economy, you get people looking to get the things that make them happy at a price that fits with tighter budgets.
As someone who is super happy with my conicals, do you really think I'm not going to keep an eye on DanMoto to see what other products they release? Of course I am and should something else come up that I want/need to add, I will be comfortable buying from them again.
I just don't get the attitude. Is it an anti-Chinese thing? It certainly can't be a USA first thing, because that would be really hypocritical what with our Italian bikes and the aftermarket manufacturers based in the UK, Germany, Italy, Etc.
It has nothing to do with anti-Chinese. It's anti-cheap. I don't care where they are made (hence my "even QD" since it's Italian but doesn't feel or look like Termi, Arrow, or Zard).
I don't mean to be a dick, I've just seen cheap exhaust components before (from China, coincidence) especially with cars, and it's never been a good experience. Even if things don't crack (and they often do), the fit-and-finish is noticably poorer than high-end brands. When it's hidden beneath the sheetmetal of a car, it's easier to rationalize why you wouldn't spend good money. When it's part of the visual expression and in plain sight like a motorcycle (and much more important when it comes to quality and weight compared to a car part).
Somebody said something about making "spaghetti headers" for $300 or something... The reason I doubt you'll see this is because a slip-on is a pretty low-risk item. Headers have to be so much more precise I doubt any of these companies (like DanMoto) will get into that. The risk of bad publicity from a failure will potentially sink this "good thing" they have going right now.
Again, if you think these exhausts feel or look the same as any of the companies I've listed, then I think we have different opinions of what quality is (or at least what we're willing to pay for). I for one take a liking to hand-made fine and precise things. This includes beautifully mechanical items such as those found on motorcycles.
Also want to add that we'll never see eye-to-eye on this. I'm fine with discussing this and I won't try to persuade you to agree with me but I will qualify my statements and voice my opinion. If you have interest in this that's cool, I'm equally interested in people's reasons for liking these.
The best rationale I've heard with these is that your wife would be ok with spending $200 but not $2000. I'm not going to delve into people's personal lives vs. mine and I'm not judging anyone, so while I might not be in the same situation (hopefully ever) I UNDERSTAND that a motorcycle is for MOST people a very selfish and personal item. What joy or pleasure does your spouse get from it? Minimal in most cases.
You may say something like "it doesn't bother me" or "for the price I paid...". That is the crux of my argument, really. I prefer products where those statements don't have to be made.
Like I said... for a track bike that will most likely end up in a scrap yard that is understandable. But those offset (huge) straps holding the cans on the silver S2R1k look horrible to me. As do the materials. The pipes look like galvanized fence posts and the carbon looks like a sticker. The spring retainers look haggard and out of proportion, let alone oddly placed in relation to the curvature of the pipes (ie. the span on the lower spring that bridges the gap beneath the bend). And I'm willing to bet that since they are even USING spring retainers in that location that the pipes are not a dual-slip that have enough friction (and sealing) to not require retainers. And then don't get me started on the mis-matched diameters and the big step up to the can diameter (because they clearly recycle the parts for every kit and don't make bike-specific cans).
Shall I keep going? I'm not attacking people's choices here, my gripe is purely with the poor design and quality of the company.
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 13, 2011, 01:53:21 AM
It has nothing to do with anti-Chinese. It's anti-cheap. I don't care where they are made (hence my "even QD" since it's Italian but doesn't feel or look like Termi, Arrow, or Zard).
I don't mean to be a dick, I've just seen cheap exhaust components before (from China, coincidence) especially with cars, and it's never been a good experience. Even if things don't crack (and they often do), the fit-and-finish is noticably poorer than high-end brands. When it's hidden beneath the sheetmetal of a car, it's easier to rationalize why you wouldn't spend good money. When it's part of the visual expression and in plain sight like a motorcycle (and much more important when it comes to quality and weight compared to a car part).
Somebody said something about making "spaghetti headers" for $300 or something... The reason I doubt you'll see this is because a slip-on is a pretty low-risk item. Headers have to be so much more precise I doubt any of these companies (like DanMoto) will get into that. The risk of bad publicity from a failure will potentially sink this "good thing" they have going right now.
Again, if you think these exhausts feel or look the same as any of the companies I've listed, then I think we have different opinions of what quality is (or at least what we're willing to pay for). I for one take a liking to hand-made fine and precise things. This includes beautifully mechanical items such as those found on motorcycles.
Well, first off, no idea what your situation is but not everyone has the luxury of dropping "good money" (no idea what the threshold is for "good" money) on cosmetic bits for a toy. Let's not kid anyone here, unless you are a professional rider who makes his living from his bike, it's a toy. I don't care if it's your only vehicle or if you ride it to work every day, it's a toy for 99% of the population. Nothing wrong with that, we own and ride because of how it makes US feel, same can be said for how we accessorize and customize our toys. It's to our individual likes...also our individual budgets or technical ability (custom fab, etc).
I've said, in regards to my DM Conicals, that the mounting system is...well, cheap looking. Materials wise, stainless is nice; holes are all chamfered and everything else has a decent edge break. Of course, I haven't sent off a sample to get a breakdown of the composition of the stainless but everything I expect to be stainless is. What grade it is, I have no idea. I'm sure it isn't super duplex or even a superaustenitic like AL-6XN, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it is 304...the Chinese, it seems, like to make everything stainless out of 304 (in my experience buying and having product fabricated in China). Maybe if I can get some time on our mass spec, I'll see if I can get some testing done.
Sure, there are some fit/finish issues. Few things could be a tighter fit...but, in my case, everything did line up proper and fit together correctly (with a little persuasion, in one case). From the little bit of checking I have done (my bike has it's own issues) I don't seem to have any leaks. As far as
feeling cheap. take it from someone who has the product in hand and isn't going off of a handful of pictures on the internet, they don't feel cheap at all. Every part feels solid and well made, they are massively lighter than the stock cans without being flimsy. The finish is nice too, it looks to vary around a #4 to #6 finish depending on the part...which is a lot nicer than the mill finish on a fence post.
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 13, 2011, 02:14:17 AM
Also want to add that we'll never see eye-to-eye on this. I'm fine with discussing this and I won't try to persuade you to agree with me but I will qualify my statements and voice my opinion. If you have interest in this that's cool, I'm equally interested in people's reasons for liking these.
The best rationale I've heard with these is that your wife would be ok with spending $200 but not $2000. I'm not going to delve into people's personal lives vs. mine and I'm not judging anyone, so while I might not be in the same situation (hopefully ever) I UNDERSTAND that a motorcycle is for MOST people a very selfish and personal item. What joy or pleasure does your spouse get from it? Minimal in most cases.
You may say something like "it doesn't bother me" or "for the price I paid...". That is the crux of my argument, really. I prefer products where those statements don't have to be made.
Like I said... for a track bike that will most likely end up in a scrap yard that is understandable. But those offset (huge) straps holding the cans on the silver S2R1k look horrible to me. As do the materials. The pipes look like galvanized fence posts and the carbon looks like a sticker. The spring retainers look haggard and out of proportion, let alone oddly placed in relation to the curvature of the pipes (ie. the span on the lower spring that bridges the gap beneath the bend). And I'm willing to bet that since they are even USING spring retainers in that location that the pipes are not a dual-slip that have enough friction (and sealing) to not require retainers. And then don't get me started on the mis-matched diameters and the big step up to the can diameter (because they clearly recycle the parts for every kit and don't make bike-specific cans).
Shall I keep going? I'm not attacking people's choices here, my gripe is purely with the poor design and quality of the company.
Yeah, spring retainers are def. for manufacturers who don't know how to properly build pipes, especially that welded on loop that the DanMoto's use. Oh, shit, oops. (http://www.termignoni.it/products_detail.php?id=213&&scarichi=termignoni#dett) My stock cans had the same size step-up, doesn't seem excessive to me. But, I do agree that dual slip fittings on the intermediate pipes would be nice.
I've not met the people running the company, so I cannot judge them. I would be interested in what the quality of the first exhausts from Termi, et al. were like when they first started out. I bet, as with any new mfg, they had some fit/finish issues too. Personally, I am interested in seeing if this specific company grows and improves (with feedback) or not. My experience with the Chinese mfgs I've dealt with is that they WANT to make a good product and are really open to how to improve any shortcomings. For a new-ish company, their design seems pretty good to me...but what do I know. I just spend my time engineering systems/products for high tech start-up companies and before that was a machinist with a large (read - Brand name) weapons manufacturer making high-spec components from mundane to exotic materials that kept people alive. So, for me, compared to how I make my living...an exhaust flange that is a little out of round or a weld seam that could be a bit tighter - not worth crying over nor worth paying a 400% mark-up to solve. YMMV.
If you don't like it, don't sweat it, you are obviously in a different money earning bracket than other people. you buy what you think will be aesthetically pleasing to other people while other people buy what they like andthey can afford and get the same enjoyment out of it. Haters are always gonna hate. Buy what you want.
[popcorn]
All I will add to the conversation is that I agree with buying higher end things that will last, I mean I did buy a Ducati. That said, I'd personally feel like a fool spending $1k on a slip on exhaust, I mean it's way less material then a car exhaust and it's hundreds more then I have paid for full cat back car exhausts. In addition to the quality of the machine itself I take into consideration the value that I put on specific accessories, and in the case of a slip on exhaust that performance wise doesn't really do much except drop weight so I'd rather spend the $200 and in fact I am very happy with my purchase. I get compliments all the time, even from other Ducati owners.....
To each their own. We all have our own perceptions and experiences so buy what you like.
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 13, 2011, 01:53:21 AM
It has nothing to do with anti-Chinese. It's anti-cheap. I don't care where they are made (hence my "even QD" since it's Italian but doesn't feel or look like Termi, Arrow, or Zard).
When you say "anti cheap" just bear in mind Toyota's history.. or Honda's.. Or Ducati's for that matter.
Look at some of the reviews in old bike mags. Ducati QA was shit. My friends in Italy laugh because Ducatis used to be called "the fast one with the trail of parts".
Thank God they got their QA up to part, but the fact is, everyone starts out doing cheap.
Quote from: mattfwalters on July 10, 2011, 11:47:50 PM
edit: now with 100% more photos
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5926880892_c5e769d6b4_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6134/5926879960_b959db54aa_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6144/5926879456_887cbe6c51_b.jpg)
Looks very nice. Seems that you can get to the seat lock without burning your hand.
Quote from: ducatiz on July 13, 2011, 04:54:09 AM
When you say "anti cheap" just bear in mind Toyota's history.. or Honda's.. Or Ducati's for that matter.
Look at some of the reviews in old bike mags. Ducati QA was shit. My friends in Italy laugh because Ducatis used to be called "the fast one with the trail of parts".
Thank God they got their QA up to part, but the fact is, everyone starts out doing cheap.
Agree to an extent. I very much know Honda's history as I used to work for them. Their history was built on innovation and forward-thinking engineers who were out-smarting the current climate of motor vehicles (bikes and cars). It's a VERY far cry from the situation Honda is currently in. At least their bikes are still somewhat true to their values. Cars... hah. Well, I'll just say they are chasing Toyota's business model in the currunt day and aren't following their own history and leave it at that.
You may say something like "it doesn't bother me" or "for the price I paid...". That is the crux of my argument, really. I prefer products where those statements don't have to be made.
I haven't heard anybody say, "Gee, I wish I'd spent $1000.00 more for the Arrows," either. [laugh]
@Javamoose (would be a big quote), I mostly agree with you.
It's nice that some of the detailing is thought-out and nicely executed. Some of it (like the fasteners) are not. I was being a bit sarcastic by calling it galvanized, and I do see your point when it comes to a slip-on exhaust providing little more than a visual enhancement and a slight weight loss. But then slip-ons are the ultimate dichotomy on Ducatis. It's purely "jewelry". People choose accordingly; from diamonds to the little plastic rings in the supermarket coin machines.
It's part of the reason I don't like slip-ons. At least with the full system you are getting a decent power increase (and more of a weight savings too).
Anyways... sorry to pick nits or ruffle feathers. In the end everyone here is riding a moto so it's a lot better than the alternative...
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 13, 2011, 09:34:09 AM
You may say something like "it doesn't bother me" or "for the price I paid...". That is the crux of my argument, really. I prefer products where those statements don't have to be made.
I haven't heard anybody say, "Gee, I wish I'd spent $1000.00 more for the Arrows," either. [laugh]
Nor have I heard anyone with an Arrow say "Gee, I wish I'd spent $800 less and gotten that!"
I'm curious, how many people buying Danmoto have seen Arrows and Termis up-close and had the chance to work with them, take them apart, install them, etc.? We're talking about top-notch craftsmanship using titanium, aluminum, pre-preg "dry carbon", stainless (as a last resort) with double-slip fittings and good design that takes into account balanced exhaust tuning, aesthetics and amazing fit-and-finish.
I'll gladly pay for that, regardless of the brand's name.
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 13, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
Nor have I heard anyone with an Arrow say "Gee, I wish I'd spent $800 less and gotten that!"
I'm curious, how many people buying Danmoto have seen Arrows and Termis up-close and had the chance to work with them, take them apart, install them, etc.? We're talking about top-notch craftsmanship using titanium, aluminum, pre-preg "dry carbon", stainless (as a last resort) with double-slip fittings and good design that takes into account balanced exhaust tuning, aesthetics and amazing fit-and-finish.
I'll gladly pay for that, regardless of the brand's name.
Many of us are saying we're glad we bought Danmoto instead of Arrows or Termis. I've had numerous opportunities to buy Arrows or Termis, but I didn't. Actions speak louder than words. Yes, I've seen Arrows and Termis up close and in person, and you are right about the quality, etc. Have you seen Danmotos other than a picture? Now I still have $800.00 to take my family to Vegas. Personally, I'm happy for the people who are happy with how they spent their money, regardless of what they chose to buy with their money.
I have seen these things up close. I'm not some internet troll looking at pictures.
It's great that you saved money and are able to take a trip with your family. As I alluded to earlier that's probably the best rationale for buying these, as we've come to agree that for most of us motorcycles are little more than toys. (It happens to be my only vehicle at the moment, but I still think of it as a toy sometimes!).
I'm all for your purchase as long as you're happy. I'm just playing devil's advocate and offering up my reasons as to why someone would buy Termi or Arrows or Zard, etc.
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 13, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
Nor have I heard anyone with an Arrow say "Gee, I wish I'd spent $800 less and gotten that!"
I'm curious, how many people buying Danmoto have seen Arrows and Termis up-close and had the chance to work with them, take them apart, install them, etc.? We're talking about top-notch craftsmanship using titanium, aluminum, pre-preg "dry carbon", stainless (as a last resort) with double-slip fittings and good design that takes into account balanced exhaust tuning, aesthetics and amazing fit-and-finish.
I'll gladly pay for that, regardless of the brand's name.
And you'll be appropriately crying when you lowside the bike and mangle one of the cans.. :-)
Quote from: ducatiz on July 13, 2011, 01:35:12 PM
And you'll be appropriately crying when you lowside the bike and mangle one of the cans.. :-)
But a lowside is better than a highside, nonetheless. I highsided once on the dirt at about 50 mph and ended up in the hospital. Cost me more than four sets of termis. [laugh]
So now the rationale is that everyone will crash their bike?
I already said earlier in this discussion that I understand using these for a track bike since you're more likely to wad it and who cares about longevity or design (assuming its your hobby, not a race bike/team).
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 13, 2011, 04:57:57 PM
So now the rationale is that everyone will crash their bike?
I already said earlier in this discussion that I understand using these for a track bike since you're more likely to wad it and who cares about longevity or design (assuming its your hobby, not a race bike/team).
You never know how fast you can go until you crash ;D
wow- beating a dead horse
Well, guys this has been entertaining. [popcorn]
@ Desert Dust...is there any way you can post a video for us? Just curious how they sound on the s2r 1000.
Did you say you were going to buy a mid-pipe as well?
Quote from: $Lindz$ on July 13, 2011, 04:57:57 PM
So now the rationale is that everyone will crash their bike?
Not everyone... just me.
(http://www.supercoolbaby.com/pictures/nicethings.jpg)
Ok, maybe I'm not going to wad it up regularly, but I commute on it and life isn't always easy on the ol' M900. Heck, the lovely Remus Ti Hi-Mounts that I have on her now have a big fat crimp from where a NYC taxi opened a door into the left pipe, prompting the previous owner to sell them here on the board. Sh#t happens... might as well happen to my cheap sh#t instead of my expensive sh*t.
Quote from: slauster on July 14, 2011, 02:37:54 AM
Well, guys this has been entertaining. [popcorn]
@ Desert Dust...is there any way you can post a video for us? Just curious how they sound on the s2r 1000.
Did you say you were going to buy a mid-pipe as well?
Sorry, I don't have a video camera. Yes, I am planning to go with the Marving header and the Fat Duc 02 manipulator eventually.
@ Desert Dust. That's okay. I have an s2r 800 and the marving header. Was looking into the Danmoto as well. Had never seen anyone with the s2r set up from there until you. Thanks for being brave! They look good.
Quote from: slauster on July 14, 2011, 12:53:51 PM
@ Desert Dust. That's okay. I have an s2r 800 and the marving header. Was looking into the Danmoto as well. Had never seen anyone with the s2r set up from there until you. Thanks for being brave! They look good.
Shipping was fast- I ordered them on July 4th and I received them on July 11th. You might want to order the removable baffles with your slip-ons as well. I made the mistake of not adding them to my original order, so now if I want some I will have to pay another shipping charge from China. Just a thought.
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 14, 2011, 02:01:48 PM
Shipping was fast- I ordered them on July 4th and I received them on July 11th. You might want to order the removable baffles with your slip-ons as well. I made the mistake of not adding them to my original order, so now if I want some I will have to pay another shipping charge from China. Just a thought.
Dammit! I missed those when I ordered ours as well.
Just ordered four baffles. The shipping cost was $2.50 - nowhere near as bad as for the cans. ;)
Quote from: mattfwalters on July 16, 2011, 02:00:58 PM
Dammit! I missed those when I ordered ours as well.
Just ordered four baffles. The shipping cost was $2.50 - nowhere near as bad as for the cans. ;)
Thanks- good to know. I thought I'd be looking at $20.00 plus for shipping.
a video I made with my danmoto
- its louder in person
- volume all the way up, set to 720p ;D and ENJOY!
Ducati Monster GoPro HD - Danmoto Exhaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWLe0knNpqk#)
Here's another
Ducati Monster GoPro HD - Danmoto Exhaust Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu90D4h8Pxg#)
At least it sounds good.
Everyone's been saying they're real loud. When your bike is just idling, are they a lot louder than stock? Or are they just REAL loud when you're riding.
I dont care about when I'm on the road but my neighbors are a-holes.
The Danmoto website does carry removable baffles but I can't vouch for their effectiveness since I'm poor and have stock exhausts. :-(
http://www.dan-moto.com/removeable-baffle-product-298.html?zenid=vkdvd68gres6lgdduu8ek48dj1 (http://www.dan-moto.com/removeable-baffle-product-298.html?zenid=vkdvd68gres6lgdduu8ek48dj1)
Quote from: fsx on November 21, 2011, 09:43:36 PM
Everyone's been saying they're real loud. When your bike is just idling, are they a lot louder than stock? Or are they just REAL loud when you're riding.
I dont care about when I'm on the road but my neighbors are a-holes.
they are loud all round idle and riding
if your have arsehole (asshole) ;) neighbours then you wont win either way
me i say screw the neighbours
Mine sound loud in a pleasant way. S2R 1000
I love the danmoto slip ons so far, but I have to say they are very loud and I wish it was a BIT quieter so I just ordered the removable baffles from Danmoto that were only $26
I will keep you guys posted if it makes any difference
6 months with Dan Moto carbon slip-ons on an 07 S2R 1000. No complaints or regrets.
Just installed the buffles, have to admit they have a pretty dumb way in installing them in danmoto (put them in and use a hammer to seal them in place tighter) nevertheless.
Bike is a little quieter while idles and almost the same loud sound when in higher rpms. So far I'm happy with the outcome especially for the price.
dkramp, I might end up getting some Danmotos with baffles for myself. I will be riding around in the city a lot so I thought ordering the baffles might be a good idea. But the way they are inserted sounds pretty dumb.
Have they stayed in the exhausts properly? I'm just afraid that since they're only hammered in, they might come flying out on the road.
Quote from: avishw01 on February 08, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
dkramp, I might end up getting some Danmotos with baffles for myself. I will be riding around in the city a lot so I thought ordering the baffles might be a good idea. But the way they are inserted sounds pretty dumb.
Have they stayed in the exhausts properly? I'm just afraid that since they're only hammered in, they might come flying out on the road.
A drill and two rivets will fix that.
Quote from: howie on February 08, 2012, 10:15:03 PM
A drill and two rivets will fix that.
i wouldnt rivet
weld a small nut to the inside of the db killer after drilling and then bolt in. then when you want to take it out you'll only see the hole on the pipe.
If you want to remove the baffle at a later date, the same drill will take care of the rivet, leaving behind a smaller hole.
If you read the instructions, it clearly says not to install the DB killers on the outlet of the can. This could be why people are having can failures, as the can isn't able to cope with the pressure of holding the exhaust in when you plug up the outlet to quiet it down.
If you install the DB killer on the can inlet, you won't have to worry about the can rupturing, nor worry about the DB killer falling out.
my .02.
I actually haven't bought the cans yet. I just came across a video in which the baffle falls out of the danmotos when the guy is demonstrating how good they sound. Thought I'd ask before placing the order.
If they're supposed to go at the inlet to the can, that makes a little more sense. Regardless, if I do put them at the outlet, riveting it isn't a bad idea at all. I think I'm gonna get the carbon ones. Will report back when I get them installed!
Taftonomos, you are right! Just found this picture on a Ninja forum. Gonna order the pipes and the baffles soon now.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_KgQnlrBQOzc/TdxuXqWZGnI/AAAAAAAAIkI/X2yN7rzHkcQ/s576/photo%20%281%29.JPG)
Ordered an exhaust from danmoto.
Should be here next week, cleared Canada Customs today.
Can't wait to install them.
Quote from: avishw01 on February 09, 2012, 12:12:09 PM
Taftonomos, you are right! Just found this picture on a Ninja forum. Gonna order the pipes and the baffles soon now.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_KgQnlrBQOzc/TdxuXqWZGnI/AAAAAAAAIkI/X2yN7rzHkcQ/s576/photo%20%281%29.JPG)
good to know but that's a pain in the ass for removing them..
I got my dan moto exhaust and installed it now. Not bad, went pretty well except one exhaust is tight to go into the mid pipe.
Problem I'm having is with the straps, how do they go on and attach to the supplied bracket? They seem short.
The DB killer is easy to install in the inlet - just need to use a hammer :).
As for the straps, they are a pain to deal with, took me a half an hour. They do seem short but eventually with some force fit OK, just need to use something (pliers?) to hold them tight while putting the bolt inside .
Is there a reason they split into a US and International site now? The US site is priced at $265 while the Intl is still $160 ???
I'm pretty sure the intl site is 165 plus 150 or so for shipping while US website has the price everything included
Quote from: dkramp on March 10, 2012, 12:04:08 PM
I'm pretty sure the intl site is 165 plus 150 or so for shipping while US website has the price everything included
Kind of steep for shipping in the conus then. Considering I had front and rear race stands shipped from texas for 40 bucks total. But still can't complain too much for the cheap price.
For those who have this exhaust, how does it compare to a cored stock exhaust? Louder? Deeper?
Mine sounds gooood! S2R 1000
You can go thru the int. site and check out.
Shipping from HK is about $60
I picked up the gp carbon danmotos figuring it was worth it if they worked or not because they were so cheap. I am absolutely in love with them. In my opinion they sound just as good as termis for a lot cheaper. With a k&n air filter they're about $300. As far as the performance goes I seem to have picked up a bit but I need to tune it because since the flow is so good the bike has leaned out a bit. IMO the sound alone was worth the money and after 1500 miles haven't had any hitches.
Anybody have experience with their mid-pipe? Found them on fleabay for under $200. I wonder if they fit my 2 into 1 Leo Vince?
How's the plastic-ish/rubber-ish padding for the mount, holding on with the heat?
Quote from: NFJ79 on March 16, 2012, 11:30:42 PM
Anybody have experience with their mid-pipe? Found them on fleabay for under $200. I wonder if they fit my 2 into 1 Leo Vince?
I'm planning on getting one for my S2R 1000, but they're only $130.00 on Danmoto's site.
has anyone put jisu's on an early monster? i'm trying one up today and it's just a bit wacky. the mount bracket they supply to go between the strap and mount i'm going to have almost horizontal, with the strap up under the pillion footrest mount. otherwise they're really low.
and close to the swingarm no matter where they go. maybe they're just too wide for the early ones. maybe the link pipe has too much bend in it too. might need to cut a slice out, but i haven't got mig wire to weld stainless.
i fitted one up. the muffler is hard up under the pillion footrest part of the bracket. still very close to the swingarm. i took some photos, i'll get around to posting them.
i bent my first muffler strap to have it centred over the muffler, so i'll have to unbend and rebend it. hopefully it'll work.
Quote from: Desert Dust on March 17, 2012, 07:51:55 PM
I'm planning on getting one for my S2R 1000, but they're only $130.00 on Danmoto's site.
I dont see them listed on his website.
http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/ducati-monster-s2r-1000-cat-eliminator-pipe-race-header-product-663.html (http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/ducati-monster-s2r-1000-cat-eliminator-pipe-race-header-product-663.html)
Try this URL.
Quote from: Desert Dust on March 18, 2012, 11:47:02 AM
http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/ducati-monster-s2r-1000-cat-eliminator-pipe-race-header-product-663.html (http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/ducati-monster-s2r-1000-cat-eliminator-pipe-race-header-product-663.html)
Try this URL.
Awesome! Thank you for the link!
So how do they sound with their baffles in? Would it be better to wrap additional fiberglass in there?
Quote from: Desert Dust on March 17, 2012, 07:51:55 PM
I'm planning on getting one for my S2R 1000, but they're only $130.00 on Danmoto's site.
Before you count out ebay check to see what shipping costs. They wanted $100 to ship my pipes to the U.S.
Quote from: thurmanjr7 on March 27, 2012, 08:50:46 AM
Before you count out ebay check to see what shipping costs. They wanted $100 to ship my pipes to the U.S.
which is the same price as the ebay prices. i dont think they have leg room to really put discounts on anything.
Quote from: He Man on March 27, 2012, 09:51:08 AM
which is the same price as the ebay prices. i dont think they have leg room to really put discounts on anything.
when i bought mine to australia there was a cheaper freight option on the danmoto website so only cost me $50 instead of $100
Danmoto only charged about $35.00 to ship my carbon slip-ons to California. Hmmmmm.....
they must be attempting to increase their bottom line.
Quote from: Desert Dust on March 27, 2012, 03:42:27 PM
Danmoto only charged about $35.00 to ship my carbon slip-ons to California. Hmmmmm.....
they must be attempting to increase their bottom line.
Maybe it was because you are in California. I;m in colorado but that seems like a very expensive trip from$35-$100. Shipping was free from ebay.
DM slip ons, (rebadged), and a Marving mid pipe on my 05 S2R. $230 shipped over the winter as part of a winter project. The quality, fit and finish is good and they sound much better over the stock cans, deeper and not raspy. The hanger was a little flimsy and could have been made a little better possibly but it does it's job once in place. The install was very straight forward
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/wpwren/IMG01652-20120126-0828.jpg)
Alignment to the point of achieving the best clearance between the cans themselves has them lining up considerably different than stock but still acceptable, DM claims that's how they're suppose to sit. I like them for the money.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/wpwren/IMG01653-20120126-0829.jpg)
i would not call that alignment acceptable.
It's exaggerated in this picture and in person looks fine, you don't get the impression that there's any kind of alignment issue at all. They both move away from the bike together towards the tips with the bottom being out only slightly from the top. I know for sure as I'm riding away that it's all behind me :D
Quote from: dk1six on March 29, 2012, 04:00:20 PM
It's exaggerated in this picture and in person looks fine, you don't get the impression that there's any kind of alignment issue at all. They both move away from the bike together towards the tips with the bottom being out only slightly from the top. I know for sure as I'm riding away that it's all behind me :D
Thanks for the pics. I agree with HeMan that it definitely looks crooked. I wonder if you can request that it be parallel stacked since I have heard you can request the tips to be blued and whatnot. Also, are you running any baffles?
They're not crooked, one sits squarely over the other with the bottom can being offset from the top. This was the best case lineup possible and how DM verbaly responds to the fit. In person they look good, they weren't meant to sit tight up against the bike like stock cams do and to make that happen they were sitting on top of each other.
A little more perspective, the bike's in the same spot, same crappy cell phone pic device. Just a different angle for this set of Asian slip ons going onto a four year old Marving pipe.
Standing off to the left rear approximately one and a half feet away looking down.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/wpwren/IMG01755-20120330-0415.jpg)
Standing off to the left over the rear cowl not quite over the bike.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/wpwren/IMG01754-20120330-0415.jpg)
And by comparison the lines of a full Arrow system. I think some of it is perspective while the DM slip ons no doubt don't sit as well as the full Arrow it does look good and ridin' the hell out of it makes me smile...that's all I know.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/wpwren/IMG01757-20120330-0424.jpg)
Quote from: Desert Dust on March 18, 2012, 11:47:02 AM
http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/ducati-monster-s2r-1000-cat-eliminator-pipe-race-header-product-663.html (http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/ducati-monster-s2r-1000-cat-eliminator-pipe-race-header-product-663.html)
Try this URL.
I followed this link, and then i noticed that it was for the DanMoto international Site. So I back tracked a little, and went to the Dan Moto US site, and couldn't find the Cat Eliminator. I saw pictures for it, but the site wouldn't let me connect to order.
The pricing was funny too:
Dan Moto International has the piece priced at $130
Dan Moto US (while unable to click i could see a image of the item) was price $180
Long story short, if you want them real bad you can go on ebay and buy them for $210.
So now there are three prices.
Does anyone have pictures of just the Dan Moto Cat Eliminator installed?
-Hank
Quote from: brad black on March 17, 2012, 09:46:09 PM
has anyone put jisu's on an early monster? i'm trying one up today and it's just a bit wacky. the mount bracket they supply to go between the strap and mount i'm going to have almost horizontal, with the strap up under the pillion footrest mount. otherwise they're really low.
and close to the swingarm no matter where they go. maybe they're just too wide for the early ones. maybe the link pipe has too much bend in it too. might need to cut a slice out, but i haven't got mig wire to weld stainless.
Brad, did you get the jisu danmotos mounted properly? I'm curious to see how they look on a monster.
i'll get some photos off my camera and post on my blog. sort of is the answer, only did one due to available time.
http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/danmoto-jisu-mufflers-on-minnie-600m.html (http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/danmoto-jisu-mufflers-on-minnie-600m.html)
Quote from: brad black on April 04, 2012, 07:58:15 AM
http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/danmoto-jisu-mufflers-on-minnie-600m.html (http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/danmoto-jisu-mufflers-on-minnie-600m.html)
:-\
arse is right. they are just too big.
Put a set of DM's on my 01 S4 this Winter and have put a few Spring miles on them since. I am very pleased with the look, fit and finish. When mounting off the stock can mounts the supplied mounting straps seem a bit far back and I had to make an aluminum bracket to drop them down a bit for a good/professional looking fit. I also used some stainless t-clamps at the mid pipe to make the whole setup a bit more solid. I ran the baffles for a short time but was not happy with the fit and so I removed them. They also didn't seem to do much at cruising speed. These mufflers sound great but are a tad bit on the loud side (not as loud as most ricers or HD's). I for one am a happy customer. ;D
(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w520/denfam4/IMG_0528.jpg)
Quote from: brad black on April 04, 2012, 07:58:15 AM
http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/danmoto-jisu-mufflers-on-minnie-600m.html (http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/danmoto-jisu-mufflers-on-minnie-600m.html)
Thanks! They do look a little big from a side profile shot. On the whole though, I think they're great. They would go really well with a tail chop.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but here: http://www.trackdaymag.com/coverstories/175-danmoto-slip-on-exhaust.html (http://www.trackdaymag.com/coverstories/175-danmoto-slip-on-exhaust.html)
I had their 60mm GP Style Carbon on my R1 before replacing it with a full Hindle race system. I liked it, the can and weld quality was excellent (as was the carbon), I had to work with the slipon to get it to fit over the header as it was slightly ovalled but that was an easy fix. The bolt that came with the clamp was cheap and snapped when I reinstalled it the second time to sell the bike, but easily replaceable. Here is a pic of it mounted:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1957287/23851381/399005210.jpg)
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1957287/23851381/401841808.jpg)
seriously thinking about pulling the trigger on the GP Ti cans. I could use them for current or stock setup nicely.
I still like mine, and they are still holding up fine after a few thousand miles and the texas sun. Just did a tail chop a few days ago, and honestly I'm not in a rush to shorten the cans like I thought I'd be.
(http://gallery.me.com/chrishargrove/100097/Monster3/web.jpg)
(http://gallery.me.com/chrishargrove/100097/Monster2/web.jpg)
(http://gallery.me.com/chrishargrove/100097/Monster1/web.jpg)
^ Looks good bro!
for me the round cans have the wrong pipe to can diameter ratio. i really don't like the big pipe/big outlet/small can thing. that's why i went to the jisu, but they're just a bit big. but each to their own as they say.
I agree hey, they look too small diameter to me.
I have the Danmoto exhaust on my 696 also. So far i put about 1200 trouble free miles and they look and sound great. I went to the dealer to pick up the Termi kit and just could not spend that much (im cheap). I used the money for Danmoto exhaust,Tidy tail,Power commander pcv. This cost about $800.00. So with the rest of the money i got my son a used go cart. My daughter a used dirt bike and my wife a 1991 Honda nighthawk 250. This exhaust is a great alternative for a good price.
Was deciding between coring stock exhaust or buying one and found this: http://www.ducati.org/forums/1098-1198/40709-dan-moto-exhaust-see-3.html (http://www.ducati.org/forums/1098-1198/40709-dan-moto-exhaust-see-3.html)
Guess I'll definitely be coring it and doing it the right way.
Quote from: fishead on April 15, 2012, 04:04:25 AM
I have the Danmoto exhaust on my 696 also. So far i put about 1200 trouble free miles and they look and sound great. I went to the dealer to pick up the Termi kit and just could not spend that much (im cheap). I used the money for Danmoto exhaust,Tidy tail,Power commander pcv. This cost about $800.00. So with the rest of the money i got my son a used go cart. My daughter a used dirt bike and my wife a 1991 Honda nighthawk 250. This exhaust is a great alternative for a good price.
+1 That's exactly what I did, except that I bought a Kindle Fire, an IPOD, and a family weekend at the NASAR race in Fontana, CA.
I'd still like to see a set of these mounted onto a DSS Monster:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GP-Extreme-Exhaust-Ducati-Monster-600-620-695-750-800-900-1000-S4-EX167-/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/$(KGrHqUOKjsE6Rhsh1hzBOwhCFpSGg~~60_35.JPG)
I figure they'll either look pretty good, or like complete ass.
I may have to bite the bullet and just order a set to see for myself.
Quote from: xsephirot on April 18, 2012, 12:54:28 PM
Was deciding between coring stock exhaust or buying one and found this: http://www.ducati.org/forums/1098-1198/40709-dan-moto-exhaust-see-3.html (http://www.ducati.org/forums/1098-1198/40709-dan-moto-exhaust-see-3.html)
Guess I'll definitely be coring it and doing it the right way.
the danmoto instructions specifically say not to dyno the carbon ones. a good 20 minute track session will do more damage than a dyno run. go metal i say.
Quote from: brad black on April 19, 2012, 04:08:26 AM
the danmoto instructions specifically say not to dyno the carbon ones. a good 20 minute track session will do more damage than a dyno run. go metal i say.
So if you have to baby it then I presume a spirited twisty group ride is also out of the equation.
Quote from: brad black on April 19, 2012, 04:08:26 AM
the danmoto instructions specifically say not to dyno the carbon ones. a good 20 minute track session will do more damage than a dyno run. go metal i say.
well my stainless danmoto cans lasted 2 dyno runs..... now I'm itchy as hell, have a dyno room full of fibreglass snow, and a pair of very loud and hollow sounding cans. sounds just like it has no cans but about 80% volume.
Quote from: Staggerlee on April 18, 2012, 04:44:23 PM
I'd still like to see a set of these mounted onto a DSS Monster:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GP-Extreme-Exhaust-Ducati-Monster-600-620-695-750-800-900-1000-S4-EX167-/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/$(KGrHqUOKjsE6Rhsh1hzBOwhCFpSGg~~60_35.JPG)
I figure they'll either look pretty good, or like complete ass.
I may have to bite the bullet and just order a set to see for myself.
You foot the bill, I'll slap a set on my M900 and take one for the team. I'm good like that.
///I was one click away from ordering the cones, and something stopped me... three days later, the trans on the wife's truck went out... so good thing I didn't sink the $220 into bike parts, I guess.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on May 04, 2012, 05:59:08 AM
You foot the bill, I'll slap a set on my M900 and take one for the team. I'm good like that.
///I was one click away from ordering the cones, and something stopped me... three days later, the trans on the wife's truck went out... so good thing I didn't sink the $220 into bike parts, I guess.
I'm looking at these as well...anyone try it yet? pics on your bike? thanks!
Quote from: Roaduser on May 03, 2012, 10:01:19 PM
well my stainless danmoto cans lasted 2 dyno runs..... now I'm itchy as hell, have a dyno room full of fibreglass snow, and a pair of very loud and hollow sounding cans. sounds just like it has no cans but about 80% volume.
I've had my carbon Danmoto exhaust on my 07 S2R 1000 for about one year and 3,500 miles with absolutely no issues.
I've ridden it fairly hard through sets of twisties for about 20 minutes at a time, but other than that,
I rarely get above 6,000 RPM.
Do I need to ride harder to blow out my exhaust? ;D
i cut one in half to see what was left....
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3442/photoqy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/photoqy.jpg/)
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yeah i figured. they're using offroad loose packing.
they need a stainless flyscreen style mesh like termis have.
i dont think i took any photos, ill look into it, but i rebuilt them again with stainless flyscreen around the perforated tube and i also used some expanding matted packing as below. should last "forever" now
http://www.thermalvelocity.com.au/popuplargeimage.asp?strImage=425.jpg&strImageType=product&strPageTitle=Acousta-Fil%C2%AE%20PTX%20%20-%20800%C2%BAC (http://www.thermalvelocity.com.au/popuplargeimage.asp?strImage=425.jpg&strImageType=product&strPageTitle=Acousta-Fil%C2%AE%20PTX%20%20-%20800%C2%BAC)
at least mine have rivets.
hahaha, yeah i did leave that a little open to interpretation...
the can i cut in half had arrived with dents so they said destroy it and they will send a new one. so after i destroyed the packing on the dyno i cut it in half to show them that a: the packing didnt survive, and b: i had destroyed the can. they also sent me two new perforated tubes with mesh when they sent the replacement for the dented can. it was still a task to repack such thin cans and get the centre tube in there but i imagine less of a task than it would be to rejoin these two halfs!! haha
they were reasonably healpful with the whole situation.
Does anybody know if they will fit a 99 m900. im really considering getting them, just would like to know if they work for it before i buy
Quote from: Dshof on August 09, 2012, 11:01:25 AM
Does anybody know if they will fit a 99 m900. im really considering getting them, just would like to know if they work for it before i buy
Cans made for Dual Side Swingarms (DSS) monster will fit regardless 600, 620, 695, 750, 900.
awesome, thank you very much
i have two monsters a s4rs and a s2r 803 and i have the dan moto gp carbon pipes on both of them and they look and sound great.Def worth the $265 the only problem is you need to make your own bracket the one that comes is thin and dose not work.
i am about to get me a set of these...does anyone know if their JISUs would fit on a 696?
they look just like a set of MIVVs
Not sure if the JISUs will fit, but I picked up the conical ones for $208 for my 695, shipping included. Came in less than 10 days, and definitely worth the price. I had to cut the clamp down a bit, but it still fit just fine. If you do order from them, go to the international site instead. The prices are better. I will put a video of them up soon.
What are thoughts about the need to rejet the carbs if I were to replace the stock exhaust with the Danmoto carbon exhaust? I know the website says that there is no need, but wanted get thoughts from owners on this. I have a 2001 Monster 750. My father is an old school mechanic and says that I could burn a piston running an almost open exhaust because it will be running too lean.
Thoughts?
my danmoto dyno runs and blog write up here: http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/danmoto-muflers-for-older-monster.html (http://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/danmoto-muflers-for-older-monster.html)
I was thinking to get the conical ones for my m600 but as I read they are Very loud..
I expected that and I saw on Danmoto's website baffles.. are these making any difference? I love the sound but police in my area is a pain in the a**, looks for everything they could penalize.. [leo]
i got some baffles recenty and they now have a steel sleeve around them comapred to the photo. the danmoto people said this makes them quieter. not sure how much, never tried them in my jisus. might just make them fit better/more efficiently. fitting them before the muffler would be a pita given how much effort was required to get the muffler pipes into the mufflers. well, too much for me to want to bother.
sound wise the jisus were normal for open mufflers i thought.
I realize Danmoto is a touchy subject for Duc owners, but I got mine in the mail today and spent a whopping 15 minutes installing it. I am not mechanically inclined, but it's pretty obvious where things go and how to do it. There are small air leaks, but from what I've read these should go away in time as the mid pipe heats and seats sealing it all off. If not, I may look into it, but it's honestly so small that I don't know/care unless I'm looking for it. I don't remember who said it before me, but they weren't joking when they said the cans were loud. Like crazy stupid loud. I'm definitely going to be investing in some ear plugs for riding now. Good lord it's loud. Poor neighbors... They're just jealous. [evil]
Pictures of it are on www.kuzemko.com (http://www.kuzemko.com).
It truly sounds like a Monster now. Deep, throaty, nasty rumble and I love every bit of it.
kuzemko you can fix small exhaust leaks by using some Permatex Ultra Copper Maximum Temperature RTV Silicone Gasket Maker (http://www.permatex.com/products/product-categories/gasketing/gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-detail) Just be sure to let it cure for 24 hours before running the exhaust to be sure it seals correctly.
(http://assets.farmandfleet.com/p600/029022-20121005003145-permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker.jpg)
Quote from: Heath on June 27, 2013, 09:55:04 AM
kuzemko you can fix small exhaust leaks by using some Permatex Ultra Copper Maximum Temperature RTV Silicone Gasket Maker (http://www.permatex.com/products/product-categories/gasketing/gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-detail) Just be sure to let it cure for 24 hours before running the exhaust to be sure it seals correctly.
Sweet, thanks for the info/link! I assumed something of this sort existed, and I'll probably check it out, but it's nothing I can feel with gloves on. Either way, something I should do. On deceleration, I notice a little bit of backfiring/popping. Not a ton, nothing crazy, but I notice it more now. Is it normal? Something that always happened and I just never heard it until now? Due to the new exhaust? Is it just my bike clearing its throat in preparation for more screaming? ;D
That it's caused by your exhaust leak most likely.
Actually, this is (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_muffler-&-tailpipe-sealer-(3-oz)-permatex_7020007-p) what you actually want for the exhaust
(http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVWEB/staticproductimage//N3089/large/7020007_ptx_80335v807v807_pri_larg.jpg)
I like the ultra copper because it stays pliable and is O2 sensor safe. ;)
Quote from: dropstharockalot on June 14, 2011, 05:28:59 AM
I'm in the $2,500 CraigsList Ducati club... ballin' on a budget over here.
Haha, I loved this. I'm in that same club! Cept' I've spent stupid $ turning my 750 into a Super Monster/Sport Monster 900 and farkling it out like a dumbass.
There's s lot of us 10+ year old 3 grand and under from Craigslist Ducatista that snuck in here. Kinda like beer and pretzels blue collar ballers crashing the wine and cheese party with our loud Dan Moto exhausts and M-Label levers [evil]
Quote from: Buck Naked on July 02, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
There's s lot of us 10+ year old 3 grand and under from Craigslist Ducatista that snuck in here. Kinda like beer and pretzels blue collar ballers crashing the wine and cheese party with our loud Dan Moto exhausts and M-Label levers [evil]
Perfect way to describe it. I almost want the M-Label levers more now. Like wearing a tuxedo shirt to a wedding. You're still there, it's still fancy, but you really just wanna party. Hahaha
Quote from: kuzemko on July 02, 2013, 09:22:09 PM
Perfect way to describe it. I almost want the M-Label levers more now. Like wearing a tuxedo shirt to a wedding. You're still there, it's still fancy, but you really just wanna party. Hahaha
These are hooligan bikes after all.
Those M Label and "The 2 Wheels" levers are extremely awesome btw. The anodizing on my black ones faded after 3 years so this time around I got the shorty silvers. I'll snap a pic in the morning. Best $30 I ever spent
You can't complain too much at the price. You know what you're getting and where it's coming from.
My rubbers for the steel straps were all cracking at the bends around the Jisu mufflers, so they sent me some new ones for free.
Plus they told me that the jisu should be mounted with the flat iner side parallel to the swing arm. This will give more clearance on the m600 for sure. I had considered that look at one point, not sure why I didn't go for it. They sent me new steel straps to bend to work too, as the hold ones are already Jisu shaped, but in the wrong places. I think the we steel straps have cut out slots in them too, for a classier look. I haven't fitted them.
I recently installed the Danmoto decat pipe on my S2R 1000. I was impressed with the quality and finish. The fitment was near perfect. I paid $170.00 shipped, about 1/2 the price of Spark or Marving.
I have had the Danmoto carbon fiber cans for about 2 years now, and they are starting to show signs of wear because they did not reinforce the rivets with a metal bracket to serve as a kind of washer, so the rivets are wearing a bigger hole in the carbon fiber. They are still serviceable, but I would recommend their titanium cans instead. Also, the bracket they provide with the cans is waaaaaay to flimsy.
I had a DanMoto GP-style can on a Honda VFR a couple years ago. Decent quality. The GP-shape requires large number of welds. The welds looked decent. The can was really loud. And the $15 db-killer doesn't fit. Other than that, no problem. Didn't have any rust either. Bottom line is, they cost about the same as the California sales tax on a set of ARROW...
Quote from: wshtb on December 16, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Bottom line is, they cost about the same as the California sales tax on a set of ARROW...
[clap] [clap]
I had a low-side crash at about 25 mph about two months ago and rashed my Danmoto carbon cans a bit. Light sandpaper and a black Sharpie rendered the damage almost unnoticeable. Sure glad I wasn't sporting Arrows or Termis.
Just Installed the Danmoto header on the S2R 1000 and I love it! Very nice fit and quality, and for less than 1/2 the price of Arrow, Spark, or Marving.
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp83232%3Euqcshlukaxroqdfv6689%3Dot%3E8635%3D669%3D348%3DXROQDF%3E27%3B7289699257ot1lsi)
Did you have to get an o2 eliminator and remap the ECU? Or can you just plug'n'play?
Thanks and great looking ride.
Quote from: mattfwalters on July 10, 2011, 11:47:50 PM
My wife and I installed the Danmoto carbon slip-ons on her M696 today. Here's my $0.02:
The good:
The cans are beautiful. Seriously nice-looking equipment - the finish isn't perfect, but they're going to get dirty anyway. The end caps are a nice stainless, the rivets are even, and the carbon fibre is a nice weave. One of the elbows had a bit of a pinch on the flange; made it tough to "slip" over the mating flange. No biggie, a bit of BF&I sorted that out. They mount in very nearly the stock attitude - much lighter (a few pounds per side) than stock, much smaller and cleaner than stock. And they sound completely incredible.
Do not be fooled: these little bastards are loud. Like "never riding without earplugs ever again" loud. But a very nice, deep, throaty loud - like Termis. I actually think I like the Danmoto's sound better than the carbon Termis, which doesn't hurt. But be aware that they are loud. If you're looking for something just slightly louder than stock, you will not like these cans. Did I mention that they're loud? It sounds like Thor himself is banging on the wall in our parkade - and holy crap do they ever have an amazing growl at 8k RPM.
My wife's note: "I didn't think it would be possible to be even more in love with this bike!"
The bad:
The mounting hardware sucks out loud. The hangers are cut / drilled strips of stainless, and there is a drilled chunk of stainless about 2.5" long to connect them to the stock mounting point since bands + the stock position would leave around 90% of the exhaust unsupported. Although the nut and bolt that they include for this purpose are nice stainless units, it's not a locking nut. Going to have to re-visit the bike with some loctite in the near future. Also, I cut the shit out of my thumb. [bang]
The springs they supply with the kit are junk. The spring hooks on the elbows are positioned such that springs rattle against the pipes. If they weren't so freaking loud, you could probably even hear them do it! [Dolph]
Conclusion:
For $160, you absolutely will not be disappointed. They look great, they sound great, they're easy to install. The mounting hardware could be better - and hell, for the $1k difference between these and Termis you could invest in having something nicer made - but use some loctite when you're putting them together and they'll be fine. Wear earplugs. Did I mention that they sound freaking amazing?
edit: now with 100% more photos
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5926880892_c5e769d6b4_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6134/5926879960_b959db54aa_b.jpg)
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Sorry, but the mount setup on that is just awful to look at. I could build something nicer looking out of some aluminum with a Dremel...... Were it my bike I would leave the stock exhaust pipes on before buying the danmoto stuff. It is like having hubcaps on a Ferrari.
I love a good deal and it is cool that people that have them like them. I just can't handle the lack of attention to detail. Now I know that momma told me that if I have nothing nice to say to say nothing at all so I have to add that it is nice they stand behind their product.
Quote from: Skybarney on January 04, 2014, 08:36:46 AM
Sorry, but the mount setup on that is just awful to look at. I could build something nicer looking out of some aluminum with a Dremel...... Were it my bike I would leave the stock exhaust pipes on before buying the danmoto stuff. It is like having hubcaps on a Ferrari.
I love a good deal and it is cool that people that have them like them. I just can't handle the lack of attention to detail. Now I know that momma told me that if I have nothing nice to say to say nothing at all so I have to add that it is nice they stand behind their product.
I gotta agree with this, with the exception of older Monsters. I may get one for my minimalist 750 project. But the sight of a DanMoto exhaust on a glittering Streetfighter S give me heartburn. It's not the price or quality, the damn things are just so plain looking....doesn't look right on newer Ducs. At least on older Monsters it's an improvement in looks.
Hi guys, I have use this pair of exhaust on my S4r for few months... Honestly if i could afford a termi or an arrow kit i wouldn't go that way but for their price these are fair good. With some diy modifications they look amazing. I cut the carbon sleeve from the bottom side and shorted the mufflers about 4 cm, i made a metal a strip for under the rivets. I sanded the carbon sleeve and the pipes and coated with matte polish.
Quote from: Metzis on March 04, 2014, 04:08:20 AM
Hi guys, I have use this pair of exhaust on my S4r for few months... Honestly if i could afford a termi or an arrow kit i wouldn't go that way but for their price these are fair good. With some diy modifications they look amazing. I cut the carbon sleeve from the bottom side and shorted the mufflers about 4 cm, i made a metal a strip for under the rivets. I sanded the carbon sleeve and the pipes and coated with matte polish.
I'll be the first to say. Pics required! [thumbsup]
For my 2 cents, I would not purchase the Danmoto cans again. Mine (S2R) are carbon fiber, and the rivets were starting to wear bigger holes in the carbon because Danmoto doesn't use a collar around the end of the cans like Arrow or Termi. Had to put a hose clamp around the riveted area to get them to remain stable.
Nevertheless, I don't regret the purchase because I have already used them for about 4 years, and they were all I could afford at the time. (around $175 shipped at the time) If and when I get new cans, I will probably go for the Mivv the GP, or the Marving 2 into 1 titanium can from Monster Parts.
I did also purchase the Danmoto header for under $200 shipped, and I am finding it to be an excellent piece. Not as nice as the arrow or Zard header, but seems to function just fine.
The ugliest part of the exhaust is the metal football made by Ducati
(http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp635%3B5%3Enu%3D9544%3E578%3E257%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3C865%3B%3A6%3A348nu0mrj)
Looks much better from this side- with the Danmoto header installed
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp83232%3Euqcshlukaxroqdfv7844%3Dot%3E8635%3D669%3D348%3DXROQDF%3E27%3B6%3B%3C4%3B47257ot1lsi)
Quote from: Desert Dust on March 04, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
For my 2 cents, I would not purchase the Danmoto cans again. Mine (S2R) are carbon fiber, and the rivets were starting to wear bigger holes in the carbon because Danmoto doesn't use a collar around the end of the cans like Arrow or Termi. Had to put a hose clamp around the riveted area to get them to remain stable.
Same thing happend to me as well thats why i instaled the metal stripes under the rivets. Pics soon...
Quote from: Metzis on March 04, 2014, 04:08:20 AM
Hi guys, I have use this pair of exhaust on my S4r for few months... Honestly if i could afford a termi or an arrow kit i wouldn't go that way but for their price these are fair good. With some diy modifications they look amazing. I cut the carbon sleeve from the bottom side and shorted the mufflers about 4 cm, i made a metal a strip for under the rivets. I sanded the carbon sleeve and the pipes and coated with matte polish.
And the pics here on the wall ish with the stripe under the rivets
(http://s30.postimg.org/wcwftqhxt/1619561_10203085397397097_253129535_n.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
on the bike before the metal stripe installation
(http://s30.postimg.org/5gcglez4h/1468527_10202418550686346_40381314_n.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Danmoto carbon for $175.00?
(http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp635%3B5%3Enu%3D9544%3E578%3E257%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3C865%3B%3A6%3A348nu0mrj)
Or Marving Ti for $515.00?
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp83232%3Euqcshlukaxroqdfv8%3B69%3Dot%3E8635%3D669%3D348%3DXROQDF%3E2844963794257ot1lsi)
Quote from: Desert Dust on May 26, 2014, 01:47:37 PM
Danmoto carbon for $175.00?
(http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp635%3B5%3Enu%3D9544%3E578%3E257%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3C865%3B%3A6%3A348nu0mrj)
Or Marving Ti for $515.00?
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp83232%3Euqcshlukaxroqdfv8%3B69%3Dot%3E8635%3D669%3D348%3DXROQDF%3E2844963794257ot1lsi)
DM carbons look flimsy and cheap but the low profile silhouette is real nice (minus the udder [puke]). The Marving is fantastic and professional. Love the industrial look but the can is hideous. Like an RFD mailbox...
Quote from: memper on May 26, 2014, 05:07:59 PM
DM carbons look flimsy and cheap but the low profile silhouette is real nice (minus the udder [puke]). The Marving is fantastic and professional. Love the industrial look but the can is hideous. Like an RFD mailbox...
I agree-the Marving can is toooo big, but I don't know that the Marving can has any more mass than dual arrow cans. I've already thought about chopping it; too shiny & new to hack away just yet. Although, I'm getting use to the look.
The Danmotos sounded amazing with the udder gone, but my neighbors are probably happy the Danmotos are off.
Major flaws of the Danmoto- flimsy mount, cheap spring connectors, and no collars to keep the rivets from boring larger holes into the carbon. They were a hellofa lot of fun, though.
I liked that Marving system until Memper said it looked like a mailbox...now that's all I see, lol.
Ima make a mailbox outta a big ol exhaust can.