In this thread I will cover the modifications im currently preforming to my bike. Its a 1995 M900. I recently had a bad wreck where i hit a cat while in a corner. I broke my left femur and had to have re-constructive knee surgery. I thought what a better time to change my bike, i cant ride it anyway. keep in mind in 19 years old.
Things to do
-brace stock swingarm
-design and fabricate rear suspension
-fabricate aluminum subframe
Bike before the crash.
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ok lets get started.
First thing is to get the bike where you can comfortably work on it.
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Then take apart everything that needs to come off
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ok, the fun part, mock up stage. Ill be using a Honda 954 shock. I personally think the swingarm on the DSS bikes is the most un pleasing part to the eye, so we address that first.
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Since i dont have the shock yet, its in the mail, i had to make these templates.
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what the brace will look like
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next step, cutting up the stock swingarm, Bye Bye uglyness
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I will have plenty of room to run my custom exhaust through here
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OK NOW FOR THE FUN PART, the frame chop.
mark it
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and cut it
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good stuff.
Its already looking better
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now a little pipe fitting
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SO, what do you think? Am i crazy?
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That looks pretty awesome/unique.
Will cutting off that much of the frame upset the way the bike handles though?
I admire anyone who has the guts to start cutting away like that. Can't wait to see the finished look of your streetfighter! [thumbsup]
:o
best of luck...keep us posted. that would be a pretty radical chop. i hope you know what you're doing.
not a bad photoshop rendering of what's to come.
oh and speedy recovery
wherever you are working looks like fun, I see bikes, scooters, huge industrial thingamajigs and a nice propellor. good luck and sorry about the cat!
Quote from: cutter on July 14, 2008, 08:08:23 PM
wherever you are working looks like fun, I see bikes, scooters, huge industrial thingamajigs and a nice propellor. good luck and sorry about the cat!
It's like "where's waldo"! It took me a while to find the prop. [bang]
This is my house. look close and see if you can find the second prop
decided to Try to take some better pictures. the background was just too damn busy.
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Quote from: truckinduc on July 15, 2008, 04:53:33 PM
This is my house. look close and see if you can find the second prop
Is it behind the vise stand?
Did you leave enough room for that tire to elongate at speed and not hit the brace?
I like the concept.
It looks like fun and is coming out clean.
Quote from: truckinduc on July 15, 2008, 04:53:33 PM
This is my house. look close and see if you can find the second prop
Its on a mercury motor in the background, and you should totally swap the other one onto that thing.
Dude - you belong in an insane asylum for the incredibly gifted. I can't believe you can get all of that done with your bike sitting on its' side stand on a wooden box amidst pure chaos. Unbelievable. I couldn't do 1/164th of that mod given the full shop on 'Overhaulin'. Sick talent.
thanks, but keep in mind i only have 1 useable leg at the moment.
Hand filed my triples for about an hour at work, then sand blasted them. No more seams and they are clean. Now for some black paint.
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so i went out in the humid ass 100 degree heat, and made a speedo holder.
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That's truly a wonderful project! I've been learning to weld and toying around with fabrication, nothing serious yet, none of my stuff is clean enough.
I have two questions for you (neither really relate to your project but..) firstly, where do you get that exhaust wrap from, is it easy to install? It looks bad ass. Second, I've gotta replace the belts on my bike this week, I've been toying with the idea of leaving the covers off, am I going to induce early fatigue of the belts or any other problems by doing that??
I'm from London but I live in southern CA now. I grew up seeing street fighters and always thought they were the coolest bikes. It's not so popular over here, I really like when I see a fightered out bike, good job sir!
Dude...looks great so far. Good luck on the project and hope you have a speedy recovery. [thumbsup]
where is the brace in the photoshopped picture? awesome work [thumbsup]
I gotta say, I've been watching this thread from the get go, and your doing a great job!
For me personally, I respect home brew mods way more than just buying different carbon fiber stuff out of a catalouge. (Hold on, let me zip up my flame retardent suite). Any body can bolt things on, but it takes somebody with real vision, skills, and a good TIG welder to do what your doing.
I see your going with a bicycle computer for a speedo (or at least that's what it looks like). I've used them on the some of my supermoto conversions with great success, although the readings above 60 mph tend to get a little crazy. Food for thought, but I have seen some guys mount little GPS units to their bars for a speedo. Not the big ones, the little ones people use for jogging. I know your doing things on the cheap, so shelling out $150 for one of those numbers may not be in your budget, but it's something to think about down the road!
Quote from: VeryMetal on July 21, 2008, 08:50:13 PM
That's truly a wonderful project! I've been learning to weld and toying around with fabrication, nothing serious yet, none of my stuff is clean enough.
I have two questions for you (neither really relate to your project but..) firstly, where do you get that exhaust wrap from, is it easy to install? It looks bad ass. Second, I've gotta replace the belts on my bike this week, I've been toying with the idea of leaving the covers off, am I going to induce early fatigue of the belts or any other problems by doing that??
I'm from London but I live in southern CA now. I grew up seeing street fighters and always thought they were the coolest bikes. It's not so popular over here, I really like when I see a fightered out bike, good job sir!
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Ya man learning to weld is the first step. I am lucky enough to have 3 welders of my dads just sitting around, so i get some practice in every now and then.
The heat wrap is usually at auto parts stores. Easy to install, but soaking it in water makes it even easier. Ive personally had bad luck with pipe expansion breaking the wrap.
I think running with the belts off is fine, in my case. They dont really get exposed to much while riding, occasionally water, but that wont hurt. Now once i ride my bike to work again i mught make something to cover them. I think UV light could damage them pretty bad over time.
thanks for the comments, its definitly gonna be an all out fighter, no mistaking that
Quote from: greenohawk69 on July 24, 2008, 03:51:24 PM
Dude...looks great so far. Good luck on the project and hope you have a speedy recovery. [thumbsup]
I appreciate it. Im just now learning to walk again. The build will speed up when i get back on my feet and get my shock.
Quote from: flanman on July 25, 2008, 05:46:45 AM
where is the brace in the photoshopped picture? awesome work [thumbsup]
I took that pic before my big wreck, and before i started worh on the brace. Once my chassis is rolling again ill take some good concept pics.
Quote from: whaler on July 25, 2008, 07:08:25 AM
I gotta say, I've been watching this thread from the get go, and your doing a great job!
For me personally, I respect home brew mods way more than just buying different carbon fiber stuff out of a catalouge. (Hold on, let me zip up my flame retardent suite). Any body can bolt things on, but it takes somebody with real vision, skills, and a good TIG welder to do what your doing.
I see your going with a bicycle computer for a speedo (or at least that's what it looks like). I've used them on the some of my supermoto conversions with great success, although the readings above 60 mph tend to get a little crazy. Food for thought, but I have seen some guys mount little GPS units to their bars for a speedo. Not the big ones, the little ones people use for jogging. I know your doing things on the cheap, so shelling out $150 for one of those numbers may not be in your budget, but it's something to think about down the road!
I agree 100% with your first statment. Anyone can buy parts and bolt them on and call their bike unique, but in fact the bike is not unique in my eyes. (no offense to you guys out there, some awesome bikes here)
I have less in my total investment in my bike than some here have in an exhaust system.
The bike speedo is basically for distance, no fuel guage, and city speed limits where i have to mind my speed.
I tested it with my drill and got it ovet 300mph! Seems to be a smooth reading, but ill post up how it works. 15 bucks isnt that bad if it doesnt work great.
just so you know, this is why im not getting much work done.
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some more speedo stuff
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Goddamn cat. That knee looks rough.
I am relegated to being a bolt-on lackey. The only mod I've done is a tail chop and I didn't manage to do that very well. I've cut my hands on the rough edges i left on the lic plate hanger and now the whole thing is rusting and needs to be replaced.
No tools + no skills = bolt-on lackey :(
I'm appreciating this thread and your updates. No flame retardant suit required - I know where i stand.
Quote from: tangueroHondo on July 25, 2008, 09:25:47 AM
Goddamn cat. That knee looks rough.
I am relegated to being a bolt-on lackey. The only mod I've done is a tail chop and I didn't manage to do that very well. I've cut my hands on the rough edges i left on the lic plate hanger and now the whole thing is rusting and needs to be replaced.
No tools + no skills = bolt-on lackey :(
I'm appreciating this thread and your updates. No flame retardant suit required - I know where i stand.
If you use a simple hand file and some touch up paint you will be as good as new. Just file down your rough edges and rust, mask off area and spray it.
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Quote from: truckinduc on July 25, 2008, 08:58:43 AM
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If you use a simple hand file and some touch up paint you will be as good as new. Just file down your rough edges and rust, mask off area and spray it.
Listen, you just don't understand: If you put a hand file in my hands, there's no telling what I could fuk up. I just spent hours cutting and chamfering my new snakeskin grips for the sides of my tank. I don't have a bench grinder so I freehanded it with my dremel grinder and finished the job with a piece of sandpapaer I had lyting around. They look like hell. They're crooked and the edge finish is crappy. Not everyone is talented. You should qualify your mods with the phrase: "Results shown here are not typical - Use discretion when attempting these mods at home" I'm happy when I get the lawn mower blade sharpened without losing a finger.
so here are the triples. The paint really evened out the surface and looks good. A little shiny for my taist. They definitly dont look stock anymore.
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now i can start on my top secret air box
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Quote from: truckinduc on July 25, 2008, 08:45:47 AM
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Ya man learning to weld is the first step. I am lucky enough to have 3 welders of my dads just sitting around, so i get some practice in every now and then.
The heat wrap is usually at auto parts stores. Easy to install, but soaking it in water makes it even easier. Ive personally had bad luck with pipe expansion breaking the wrap.
I think running with the belts off is fine, in my case. They dont really get exposed to much while riding, occasionally water, but that wont hurt. Now once i ride my bike to work again i mught make something to cover them. I think UV light could damage them pretty bad over time.
thanks for the comments, its definitly gonna be an all out fighter, no mistaking that
Thanks for replying man - The triples are looking awesome, you could go over them with some satin finish? Probably would dampen down the gloss. Yeah, I've been learning with an arc welder which is kind of hard but the consistency of my work is getting a lot better, can't wait to pick up a decent tig welder. My friends dad has a cnc machine and lathe all that cool stuff so I'm thinking about trying to make some really cool stuff but need ideas.. Gotta get a wider rear rim too.. Hmm. Think I'm gonna install that heat wrap in the next few days, it just changes the whole appearance of the bike haha.
I forgot to say - good luck with your recovery. I was in a bike accident four years ago in the UK, my left foot is still recovering. Once you gain some muscle mass back on the leg it'll progress a lot faster.
Quote from: truckinduc on July 28, 2008, 07:09:09 PM
so here are the triples. The paint really evened out the surface and looks good. A little shiny for my taist. They definitly dont look stock anymore.
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now i can start on my top secret air box
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When the paint cures you can hit them with some ribbing compound to take some of the shine off.
Feel for you on the broken femur, crushed mine a while ago, looks like your recovery is going well, keep up the thread, LOOKS AWESOME!!!
CHRISTMAS CAME EARLY
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looking really badass so far, it takes major balls to slice a bike like that! What is that tank from? and speedy recovery on the femur, i've heard the best thing is pushing the physical therapy, if it hurts thats a good thing
aww come on you can guess what the tank is from. Its obviously ducati.
ok, new shock location.
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shock hangs down less than 1/4 inch more than stock exhaust.
I'm a bit confused now... I thought the bracing on the swingarm was for the shock mount.
Quote from: elTreesto on August 17, 2008, 11:33:41 AM
I'm a bit confused now... I thought the bracing on the swingarm was for the shock mount.
same... perhaps he changes his mind often. Is this your new idea truckinduc?
yep, new set of plans.
anyone know where i can get some hiem joints and the weld in ends?
I got to thinking about it and everything about an under engine setup made sense. I can change ride hight very easy now. which i couldn't before. I can change leverage ratios, which will essentially be changing spring rates. I lower the center of gravity, and free up space i need for a battery. Sounds good to me. All at the expense of a little extra unsprung weight, but not much. sounds good to me.
How will the shock compress since it's now below the swing arm pivot?
Also consider exhaust routing, and possible ground clearance issues (which there probably will be none, but still)
the shock will compress from the front ala linkage. It only hangs down about a 1/4 inch more than stock. Im building a full exhaust, again, so i wont have any clearance issues.
Just a note, I bottom my header from time to time, doesn't do much to a piece of steel pipe, but I'm sure a shock would complain more.
Also, I'm pretty sure all the heat from the pan and exhaust wouldn't be too great for the shock either.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 17, 2008, 08:18:37 PM
the shock will compress from the front ala linkage.
Ahh. Interesting concept.
ya im gonna be real cautious about bottiming out the shock. Im also going to build a carbon fiber heat sheld to keep some radiant heat out of the shock. It cant be any worse than the 999. the rear header is all over that shock.
these are the moving parts of the suspension. The swingarm on the left, with tabs welded on. The rocker plates and mount welded to the engine case. The lower rod. And the arm in the front. The arm is actually pretty complex in 2 dimensions. The shock will be on the other side of the lower rod. And the rear of the shock will be mounted to the engine case with more weld on tabs.
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You think the case can handle the stress that it will get through that tab?
Add gussets ;D
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 19, 2008, 03:20:52 AM
You think the case can handle the stress that it will get through that tab?
Add gussets ;D
Please don't forget the Heat Affected Zone on the motor due to welding of tabs :P
Im not sure that will make a difference if things are braced correctly. Plus, if he has a modern day TIG machine (mine's really old) he can pretty much eliminate the HAZ using controls on the machine.
Mine just welds, I can't manipulate the wave form or anything cool like that :(
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 19, 2008, 07:48:47 PM
Im not sure that will make a difference if things are braced correctly. Plus, if he has a modern day TIG machine (mine's really old) he can pretty much eliminate the HAZ using controls on the machine.
Mine just welds, I can't manipulate the wave form or anything cool like that :(
I'm just being difficult. :)
;D
alright, tank is from a 999?
It's Friday and I was doing some reading here, enjoying myself, then-------------BANG!!! WOW, that pic of your knee!!! Ouch.
nope, not a 999 tank, guess again
Quote from: truckinduc on August 22, 2008, 05:43:28 PM
nope, not a 999 tank, guess again
I think it's from a newer style Supersport.
???
And I'll add to that, [bacon].
Another idea for a linkage like that is on the Britten bike...
(http://www.motosolvang.com/images_new/large/1995_Britten_V1000_02.jpg)
But I guess our horizontal cylinder would get in the way of that anyway, which would shift it down just like in your drawing...
I'm excited to see how this goes! Do you model stuff in CAD at all, or just go by your drawings?
Quote from: Evil_Ductator on August 22, 2008, 06:11:31 PM
I think it's from a newer style Supersport.
???
Nope. It's from an ST.
(http://www.webbikeworld.com/ducati-motorcycles/st3-abs/ducati-st3-side.jpg)
But my untrained eye can't tell if it's from a new or old style ST.
yeah, it is from an ST. but i cheated, i saw your post about it in another thread ;)
ya i think i have everything made about the Britten, books, movies, the scale model he made to make money, even a pic of me sitting on the cr&s one as a baby.
Tank is off a late model st3.
Just got my 999 swinger, now its time to cut up my case.
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so the braced DSS swinger is out? will this one be easier for the underside shock?
Quote from: truckinduc on August 25, 2008, 10:32:39 AM
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What happened to the rear SBK axle adjusters?
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Why are you using the monster adjuster plate?
Why not just the the 999 stuff?
What's the blue stuff?
Sorry for all the question, just trying to make sense of it all. [thumbsup]
the 999 axle is 22mm or something, mine is 17mm, so i have to make my own adjusters. The monster adjusters is there for no reason. Plus the adjusters cost about as much as the swinger itself so it would be a waste, unless i could find some cheap and weld in a spacer sleeve.
I dont know what blue stuff you speak of.
DucatiBastard, both swingers would have been fine to do the underside shock with, but i decided that i just couldnt make the old box swingarm look good, so it is a pure aesthetics move.
This whole project really shows your makeing the best out of a crash [thumbsup] its pretty amazing to see the progress and know that your doing it all yourself. What kind of exhaust set up do you have planned? If the shock is under you must have some other route for it?
Ya i figured if i cant ride i ought to be working on the bike. The front primary tube will be routed the same way or similar to how it was before, on the right side of the bike. The shock is going to be on the left side of the bike.
so i got some parts in today at the shop. Not much just 2 projectors and an LED tail light.
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what kinda lights are those?
they are off a scooter. I plan on doing them in HID, they may melt, but oh well.
mo parts be comin in
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Turbo? Really? [thumbsup]
i mean i got it, so why not
Noice, what's the turbo from?
perkins diesel. Its an airesearch Garrett so its a quality unit. I think its too big though. Ill port the inside of the compressor housing and turbine housing.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 17, 2008, 06:55:09 PM
anyone know where i can get some hiem joints and the weld in ends?
www.qa1.net (http://www.qa1.net)
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part i have to cut off.
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AND ITS ON
shitty cell phone pic, but you get the idea
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GOT THE CAMERA BACK, fits nicely
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and some pre HID headlight testing
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Plan is to move the convex focusing lens closer to the bulb, spreading the focused light out over a little more area. Then with the HID bulbs putting out more lumens, i should have a large area that is lit very well.
Man, I am seriously looking forward to seeing what this bike looks like complete. Really interesting to watch it unfold, especially since you seem to make progress every day.
whats that in post 73 on cardboard ??? , next to the matching pair? it looks too weigh between 5 and 7 lbs/kilograms?
Quote from: truckinduc on August 27, 2008, 07:15:51 PM
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What is that taillight from? It looks like it'd be perfect for something I'm dreaming of.
Oh, and you are totally nuts. In a good way. [thumbsup]
thats a turbo
And the tail light is off a Buddy 150 scooter. Made by the genuine company out of Chicago. Its LED and bright as hell.
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/truckinduc900/SANY2142.jpg)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/truckinduc900/SANY2143-1.jpg)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/truckinduc900/SANY2144.jpg)
Ok for the BAD NEWS
Im getting kicked out of my house so this is where the build stops. Im so bummed right now.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 03, 2008, 01:48:33 PM
Ok for the BAD NEWS
Im getting kicked out of my house so this is where the build stops. Im so bummed right now.
Ohhh man, that SUCKS SO BAD.
I wonder if a DMF'er who lives nearby can help you with some space for the build???
shit....that really sucks. Hope you can find some housing/workspace. argh! i wanna see the rest of this build!
:'( me too...i'll cross my fingers
this was my tail design.
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/truckinduc900/untitled-1.jpg)
well im back, and the build is back on, as if anyone cared.
Changes since I was gone.
Forks- Honda RC51 forks.
Shock- Fox Twin Clicker
Front Wheel- Buell ZTL
Rear wheel- 999 forged aluminum
Swinger- 4130 tubular trellis- pro link linkage
I think that about does it
I CARE! Pics?
Ditto!!
Ok ill post up some random pics
Headlight I just built for someone
(http://i31.tinypic.com/120s9qr.jpg)
gsxr streetfighter im building
(http://i27.tinypic.com/358p1qo.jpg)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/3355m3o.jpg)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2iu5lli.jpg)
bike my father and I just completed
(http://i30.tinypic.com/fp76rq.jpg)
supermoto project, srx 6 motor in a cr125 chassis, made to fit
(http://i36.tinypic.com/4g45g1.jpg)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/21nfldw.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/11i1jpc.jpg)
ive decided to build this
(http://i35.tinypic.com/b5h0zb.jpg)
out of this
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2gx1egz.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2gx1egz.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/jpwwpi.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/23w7676.jpg)
and a few months later you have this
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2gy6pdw.jpg)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/truckinduc900/515e97cf.jpg)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/truckinduc900/30e2a6e1.jpg)
350lbs wet down from 470 lbs DRY
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/truckinduc900/a2b855c0.jpg)
my rat scooter
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2umwg.jpg)
and finally the re birth of the Duc
(http://i29.tinypic.com/35n4rur.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2cdcsih.jpg)
headlight
How about a carbon seat pan? I hollowed out under the passenger section for storage room. About as much as the stock seat had. But this seat pan keeps the bottom of the seat nice and clean looking
(http://i26.tinypic.com/13zr2xi.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/24kyye0.jpg)
So I guess I havent been too slack while I was gone.
WHAT YOU PEOPLE THINK??????????????
Wow!! Keep the pics coming as you make progress...I love the old GSX R1100 (?) and SV streetfighters!!! Man, so many cool projects...glad you're back!!
More info and pics on the bike you and your father built, please!
I love this board. ;D
its a 91 gsxr 750 sleeved to a 900something. The other one is a Honda VTR 1000, commonly mistaken for an sv.
My dads bike is named the "beast". the engine is an old iron head BSA, ill have to find some more pics, that ones the most recent.
(http://i25.tinypic.com/w160k1.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/15zf6ly.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2d0mo9f.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/oan32f.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/hsm9fc.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/28gxgrm.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2961z41.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2ujksi9.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2bpe9h.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/f4pxqa.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/ddkq36.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2im9lrp.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/59u2o4.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/166g3fa.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2628f4k.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/s4xwzp.jpg)
OH MY GOD I F**KING HATE YOU!!! SOOOOO Many TOYS!!!! Looks like paradise...
[clap] [clap] I really like the VTX!! [evil]
What VTX??????
And not all of that stuff is mine, like the race car or 750ss. Just random photos Iv thrown up
YA what he^^^ said. Ive got new pics to upload tonight, but the damn laptop wont connect
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2rw0rc5.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/290zprt.jpg)
My fuel tank fell 1 foot, only 1, landed upside down and caved the top in.
I was bummed. Need a new fuel tank now.
Quote from: truckinduc1 on August 05, 2009, 07:50:30 PM
What VTX??????
And not all of that stuff is mine, like the race car or 750ss. Just random photos Iv thrown up
Sorry, typo (you already corrected me once):
VTR
Quote from: truckinduc on August 05, 2009, 09:45:38 PM
My fuel tank fell 1 foot, only 1, landed upside down and caved the top in.
I was bummed. Need a new fuel tank now.
That sucks.
Can't YOU fix the tank?
Quote from: pompetta on August 06, 2009, 10:56:27 AM
That sucks.
Can't YOU fix the tank?
I could, but I aM not a fan of body filler. And the tank already had too much on it. Oh well Ive got a lead on another tank.
Keep the pics coming! I love this board!!! [thumbsup]
Celli
(http://i31.tinypic.com/ei6ng1.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/rcm36h.jpg)
Very nice job with the lights!! [thumbsup]
WANT those lights! [bow_down]
the light is for sale actually
welded in my subframe brace. I need some 4130 plate
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2800hae.jpg)
hey man, awesome project in the works. keep those pics coming, we're all lapping it up. hey if anything it will keep your motivation up [thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on August 11, 2009, 01:45:35 PM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/ei6ng1.jpg)
this headlight is INSANE!
Alright, I came to a big decision tonight.
Before I was having to compramise on my geometry. Im shooting for about 22 degrees rake. But rotating the bike that far forward made my swingarm angle pretty extreme.
Now ive decided to cut my frame just aft of the front motor mount, pivot the front section of the frame to desired rake, while keeping the engine level to the ground, and build the back half of the frame.
This should provide me with more rake, slightly shorter wheelbase, and a good swingarm angle.
(http://i26.tinypic.com/w9d2kz.jpg)
Subframe design. Running it through FEA now. Its gonna be plated also. I would like it to be strong enough to carry a passanger.
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj39/shift1313/trucksub2.jpg)
still rough
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj39/shift1313/Trucksub3.jpg)
You just inspired me. Thank you. After I get off work tomorrow, I'm going to dust off my CB-160 racebike project and get to it!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t146/ignignoct1/06252009338.jpg)
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t146/ignignoct1/06252009337.jpg)
[popcorn]
This is inspiring work! Great stuff, not sure how safe it will all be in the end but you are fearless and the builds are looking cool. I feel tiny right now as I struggled to remove my header pipe tonight [cheeky]
Quote from: truckinduc on August 04, 2009, 02:24:19 PM
Ok ill post up some random pics
Headlight I just built for someone
(http://i31.tinypic.com/120s9qr.jpg)
I need this headlight......show me the way!
Quote from: slipperymike on August 24, 2009, 10:35:29 PM
You just inspired me. Thank you. After I get off work tomorrow, I'm going to dust off my CB-160 racebike project and get to it!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t146/ignignoct1/06252009338.jpg)
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t146/ignignoct1/06252009337.jpg)
Awesome, get to work
Quote from: eesnas on September 10, 2009, 07:35:53 PM
This is inspiring work! Great stuff, not sure how safe it will all be in the end but you are fearless and the builds are looking cool. I feel tiny right now as I struggled to remove my header pipe tonight [cheeky]
Thanks. It will be as safe or safer than the bike was in the stock form. better handeling and better brakes. Also I was riding the bike with a cracked frame and motor mount. thats not too safe.
Quote from: djrashonal on September 27, 2009, 06:18:17 PM
I need this headlight......show me the way!
That one is gone. BUT I can build another one.
I got some titanium the other day, so here is a list of the parts to be built from Ti.
Subframe
Full exhaust
clip ons
kickstand
headlight mount
any thing else I can dream up. any ideas?
What kind of exhaust is this bad boy going to get? Very cool project! amazing that your capable of all this [bow_down]
2 into 1 with muffler under the engine. Actually 2 mufflers under the engine. Im trying to keep this bike a little quieter than my others.
Also if anyone has a 999 rear axle or a rear brake caliper they are not using, I NEED IT.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 05, 2009, 05:51:45 PM
I got some titanium the other day, so here is a list of the parts to be built from Ti.
Subframe
Full exhaust
clip ons
kickstand
headlight mount
any thing else I can dream up. any ideas?
rear sets...if you have bar you could even get pegs machined and knurled
also, where did you buy your Ti? Ebay? Titanium Joe?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TITANIUM-DUCATI-REAR-SWINGARM-WHEEL-AXLE-999-999S-749_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1c0cde8faeQQitemZ120474996654QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TITANIUM-DUCATI-REAR-SWINGARM-WHEEL-AXLE-999-999S-749_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1c0cde8faeQQitemZ120474996654QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-749-999-REAR-WHEEL-AXLE-SHAFT-BOLT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem58823d5f0cQQitemZ380142182156QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-749-999-REAR-WHEEL-AXLE-SHAFT-BOLT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem58823d5f0cQQitemZ380142182156QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
titanium or regular? pick your poison ;)
Quote from: truckinduc on October 05, 2009, 05:47:54 PM
That one is gone. BUT I can build another one.
build another oner, eh? ....go on! will said headlight cost some jingle? be HID? make me happy....wait i know the answer to that one - YES!!! [moto]
Quote from: Ducatl on October 05, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
rear sets...if you have bar you could even get pegs machined and knurled
also, where did you buy your Ti? Ebay? Titanium Joe?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TITANIUM-DUCATI-REAR-SWINGARM-WHEEL-AXLE-999-999S-749_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1c0cde8faeQQitemZ120474996654QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TITANIUM-DUCATI-REAR-SWINGARM-WHEEL-AXLE-999-999S-749_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1c0cde8faeQQitemZ120474996654QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-749-999-REAR-WHEEL-AXLE-SHAFT-BOLT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem58823d5f0cQQitemZ380142182156QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-749-999-REAR-WHEEL-AXLE-SHAFT-BOLT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem58823d5f0cQQitemZ380142182156QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
titanium or regular? pick your poison ;)
Thanks. I just figured Id rather do buisness with someone here rather than ebay.
Im in Chattanooga TN where there are a few companys that build Ti Bicycles. I get their scrap tubing. Ive got a little plate too.
Ive got no bar big enough for footpegs, but Ill keep my eyes open. And im currently thinking about rearsets.
I went to an aviation place today and it looks as though my bike will have parts from a P 51 Mustang, as well as other Warbirds.
well I had reconstructive knee surgery the other day. that means Ill be off my feet for a few months, and I get to learn how to walk again.
Ive been doing more design on the bike though, and im about 90% done with the design phase.
Im gonna have some aluminum suspension brackets milled that attach to the block.
Ive also decided to build an aluminum tank for the bike. Gonna have the cell foam inside to prevent fuel slosh.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 05, 2009, 05:47:54 PM
That one is gone. BUT I can build another one.
reaaaallllllyyy....
I meant to ask how much you wanted for it when you said it was for sale before. that is a beautiful piece of work
Quote from: faolan01 on October 28, 2009, 01:09:54 PM
reaaaallllllyyy....
I meant to ask how much you wanted for it when you said it was for sale before. that is a beautiful piece of work
all lights are gone, BUT i have the intent to make more. Price is around 300 bucks, more if you want HID.
cant wait to see this all finished [popcorn]
How's the new knee doing?
Any updates on the project?
Quote from: mojo on March 28, 2010, 02:15:42 PM
How's the new knee doing?
Any updates on the project?
yeah, pics!!! [popcorn]
truckinduc, sent ya a PM
Awesome thread. [popcorn] Sticking around for some more.
sorry guys, ive been out for a while.
The knee isnt so good. Left patella is still in 2 pieces. knee wont bend over 90 degrees, pops and cracks. So ive been bummed that I cant ride a bike with rearsets. Thats why I havent done any work to the monster.
But I did take this, (http://i26.tinypic.com/8x9ees.jpg)
and turn it into this
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4739457214_18413096a4_b.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/CBod/fighter%20fest%202010/100_0786.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/CBod/fighter%20fest%202010/100_0786.jpg)
[thumbsup]
[thumbsup] +1 That looks great. I want one.
How do those rear brakes work?
ok so I decided to start on the bike again. I got some ti filler rod, and Ive decided to use the 748 swinger pivot.
Started my swinger eccentrics today, as well as the frame mount to the swinger pivot. other shit too.
(http://i30.tinypic.com/5a583l.jpg)
Quote from: mojo on July 28, 2010, 02:15:18 AM
How do those rear brakes work?
Are you asking how it literally works? or how it works performance wise?
It works just like its on the rear wheel since its attached to the front sprocket. Its spinning 2.6 times faster than the wheel so it can be a smaller diameter but stronger.
I dont have a cable for it yet so right now im running it as a hand brake. but its smooth and linear and will easily lock up the rear wheel. BTW does the rear wheel look familiar?
pieces for connecting the swinger pivot and frame. Im going to further narrow the cases and re make the adaptors from steel, but that can all be done after the frame work.
the steel pieces at the ends of the shaft get welded to tubing that meets the motor mount right above them. Just like on the Ducati SBK models.
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2vs1178.jpg)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/30t2kcy.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/vw8bl.jpg)
QuoteIt works just like its on the rear wheel since its attached to the front sprocket. Its spinning 2.6 times faster than the wheel so it can be a smaller diameter but stronger.
Makes sense. Just never seen a rear brake set up like that before.
Glad to see you are mobile again and working. [thumbsup]
BTW if I won the Powerball, I'd build you a shop with the best of every tool you could imagine, and just sit back and watch you work in amazement. Keep up the good work : [clap]
Well thank you. Im having trouble finding enough time to get any real work done lately. I gould gladly build bikes all day.
Im turning the swinger pivot adapters out of DOM on the cnc at school. Going to see if I can get my hands on some 4130 round stock and plate. Then its frame welding time.
found an hour to work tonight.
Get the front end and swingarm geometry I wanted.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/1t8opl.jpg)
Getting it at 21 degrees rake and 11 degrees for the swingarm angle.
Then you cut more.
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2s639jt.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2emmmgg.jpg)
what you people think?
are you gonna weld an additional subframe to that for the engine mounts?
Swingarm eccentrics started.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/358w9hl.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/w16yjm.jpg)
mock up rear motor mounts
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2qdadtj.jpg)
rake
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2im3syh.jpg)
here is the frame design. off or the main frame will be a Ti subframe.
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2lt4nyd.jpg)
not the best way but it works.
(http://i34.tinypic.com/11hfiqg.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/4uxxyo.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2rwal9g.jpg)
going to have a little chain line issue but i can fix it.
got the other side cut out and bent up. Slowly getting somewhere. I tried getting filler rod but the place i got it before was out.
(http://i36.tinypic.com/24btgn6.jpg)
Dude, you have very marketable skills. I hope that you are planning on doing something creative like this once you finish school. You could likely make a good living building custom cars or bikes. Can't wait to see how this ends, I imagine it will be amazing. Good luck with the knee!
thank you. I do plan on it some day. Its my goal to run my own shop.
BTW I need a 12mm motor mount bolt if anyone has one they can get rid of.
started mounting the motor to the table.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/jucv3l.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/28vbqch.jpg)
and another shot of these things cause its the only actual progress of the bike lately.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/18ljz4.jpg)
tube fitting. aluminum for mockup.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/f00qbo.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/jfygav.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/280ntky.jpg)
I was planning on bending the tube right at the joint, but I think ive decided not to. Its only 4.5 degrees of angle difference. shouldnt hurt to get a good tight fit and slug it and weld it.
Here is where I run into a problem, like I knew I would.
The tube will interfere with removing the side cover.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/9pvwoh.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/34o535i.jpg)
I guess thats why the superbikes frames are like this. I dont like it though cause this is the furthest back my frame is, no shock mount behind that motor mount.
(http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/catalog/ducati/img/749_999_sato_rearset.jpg)
other side notched up. No problems here.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2w7pn5z.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/10dfbxj.jpg)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/23jmyox.jpg)
Looks like you may be able to sneak that case cover out with the frame there
... was this thread always called "Truckers Monster Rebuild " ?
or have i just had waaaayyyyyy to many beers?
great job so far, cant wait to see things start to come to gether
no, it was called something like "way to modify your bike to make it unique" or something like that
Ya I changed the name. Im gonna have the thread moved to general monster discussion also. Its not really a tutorial because I doubt many other members are going to cut up a perfectly good monster frame for the fun of it.
So keep drinking Hades.
here it is at a 56" wheelbase. Barely enough room for the shock and the linkage. If I made an entire frame id move the front wheel as close as possible to the head to get a longer swingarm.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/a29dfc.jpg)
Feel free to design a swingarm. I have mine pretty much designed, I just like to see what others come up with.
54" wheelbase
(http://i38.tinypic.com/b6ano6.jpg)
why not try to figure out a under engine shock setup
Thats what I was planning on doing months ago, but im pretty much dead set on a unit pro link style now.
difference between the old 10mm frame to motor bolts and the new style 12mm bolts.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2agm1ig.jpg)
I had to turn down the flange slightly to get the bolts to fit the frame.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/15mo38g.jpg)
old vs new
(http://i38.tinypic.com/muaexz.jpg)
it fits
(http://i33.tinypic.com/20j3bsz.jpg)
and the crack I need to fix.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2lm4abm.jpg)
narrowing the cases further. I have to make a tool to get the surface flat and true.
(http://i34.tinypic.com/kbp2eg.jpg)
and I spent 2 hours bead blasting what little frame i have left. Ill remove the rest of the unused tabs and smooth it in general.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2guw56w.jpg)
The final finish of the frame will be clear powdercoat. Im not sure If I should leave it raw bead blasted or sand the frame first to give it direction. what would you do?
Quote from: truckinduc on August 22, 2010, 07:25:54 PM
The final finish of the frame will be clear powdercoat. Im not sure If I should leave it raw bead blasted or sand the frame first to give it direction. what would you do?
Raw, just my .02
Raw. It might look cool with a raw metal tank too.
Raw.
Epic build, BTW [thumbsup]
I would definitely sand it! If you leave it bead blasted and then clear it, it's going to end up looking like a regular silver frame and the "raw" effect will be lost.
My tank is raw/polished and clear powder coated, the powder process will darken it just a little as well.
Just to give you an idea:
I polished my steel tank and then matted the sides using an orbital sander.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/3817135456_0a43963a76_b.jpg)
Before the powder coat
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2599/3817129962_0cdd5ae3fd_b.jpg)
And after
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4897676300_ea6d3b0b41_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4897088381_6749a8c6b2_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4897096477_d0a4625c51_b.jpg)
There's a monster owner at my "local" track who has a cleared raw frame as well, and he left a pattern on it.. definitely adds to the effect in my opinion.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3626777234_c328e06978_b.jpg)
link to my original photo wherecan see details a little better: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3626777234_d3647e21a8_o.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3626777234_d3647e21a8_o.jpg)
as always I'm lookin' forward to your product. [thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on August 19, 2010, 08:01:05 PM
here it is at a 56" wheelbase. Barely enough room for the shock and the linkage. If I made an entire frame id move the front wheel as close as possible to the head to get a longer swingarm.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/a29dfc.jpg)
Feel free to design a swingarm. I have mine pretty much designed, I just like to see what others come up with.
I've been inactive on this forum for a while. So now I see all these new projects. Impressive! I can't wait to see it finished!!!! Great job!!!! Celli [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4739457214_18413096a4_b.jpg)
Man! I love this!!!! [bacon]
Quote from: IndustrialGrrrl on August 23, 2010, 06:33:04 AM
I would definitely sand it! If you leave it bead blasted and then clear it, it's going to end up looking like a regular silver frame and the "raw" effect will be lost.
My tank is raw/polished and clear powder coated, the powder process will darken it just a little as well.
Just to give you an idea:
I polished my steel tank and then matted the sides using an orbital sander.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/3817135456_0a43963a76_b.jpg)
Before the powder coat
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2599/3817129962_0cdd5ae3fd_b.jpg)
And after
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4897676300_ea6d3b0b41_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4897088381_6749a8c6b2_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4897096477_d0a4625c51_b.jpg)
There's a monster owner at my "local" track who has a cleared raw frame as well, and he left a pattern on it.. definitely adds to the effect in my opinion.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3626777234_c328e06978_b.jpg)
link to my original photo wherecan see details a little better: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3626777234_d3647e21a8_o.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3626777234_d3647e21a8_o.jpg)
as always I'm lookin' forward to your product. [thumbsup]
Ya im pretty sure im going to hit it with some aggressive scotch bright by hand to give it a subtle brushed look them clear it.
I love the exposed brass in your tank. I still havent decided if im gonna make an aluminum tank or a fiberglass tank yet.
i tried scotch brite and you really cant tell it did much, so out came the sandpaper.
this is raw bead blasted. looks like silver metallic paint.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/jgo67a.jpg)
this is sanded in a single direction
(http://i38.tinypic.com/vcrymx.jpg)
i like the sanded in single direction look [thumbsup]
I just removed some unused tabs from the frame.
It weighs 13lbs right now. I bet it will be right under 16 when finished.
Im shooting for 10lbs for the swingarm, minus linkage.
started on my swingarm jig today
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2iijpsg.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/t9zhht.jpg)
Does anyone know the swingarm angle of the SBK models?
848/1098
QuoteWhat You Actually Get Off of the Showroom Floor
•Trail 91.5mm
•Swingarm angle 7.8deg
•Steering head angle 24.7 deg
•Front ride height 711.5mm
•Rear ride height 230mm (measured with DOS tool)
•Swingarm length 505mm
•Wheelbase 1447mm
•Weight distribution 49.5f/50.5r
•Weight 401lb
http://www.ducati848.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12513 (http://www.ducati848.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12513)
thank you.
christmas came early
(http://i33.tinypic.com/30icnf9.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on August 25, 2010, 04:12:49 PM
thank you.
christmas came early
You're welcome! What is that?
loving it so far, keep up the good work!
I wish you lived next to me with those kinds of skills and fun tools ;D
Even better, I wish you lived next to me with all those things and a fully stocked beer fridge [drink]
Quote from: Fergus on August 25, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
You're welcome! What is that?
umm, a tig and supplies
Quote from: Fergus on August 25, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
You're welcome! What is that?
a new lead for my welder. mine was cracked and older than I am. plus some other supplies. Im teaching my 8 year old brother to weld also.
here is the idea for the linkage. The purple is an aluminum plate thats bolted to each side of the engine.
Im still working on all the lengths to figure out the ratios. It would be alot easier if I had modeling software.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2q0syeh.jpg)
Looks awesome so far, I love the trellis style swingarm. As you build, think about the possibility of replicating your work. People will pay for a trellis style swingarm upgrade.
Quote from: Travman on August 26, 2010, 06:49:33 AM
Looks awesome so far, I love the trellis style swingarm. As you build, think about the possibility of replicating your work. People will pay for a trellis style swingarm upgrade.
That is a good suggestion. But unfortunately Ive already changed so much with the cases it would never work on a stock monster. I could however start over with another bike and design and build one. Someone would just have to let me borrow their bike for about a week.
side view, finalizing the design
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2ed9jti.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on August 25, 2010, 05:21:41 PM
It would be alot easier if I had modeling software.
Maybe something like this??
http://www.bikechecker.com/home.phtml (http://www.bikechecker.com/home.phtml)
That is awesome. Thank you. Im definitely going to play around with that demo to see if I like it.
The clearance between the final vertical swingarm/shock mount tube and the motor mount must be quite small when you're into compression? I'm guessing that's something the modeling software will help space correctly.
Yep. there will be alot of close tolerances. For example the shock to tire under compression and the obvious situation you pointed out.
Im shooting for 5" travel midway through the bumpstop.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 26, 2010, 05:09:44 PM
side view, finalizing the design
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2ed9jti.jpg)
this reminds me of the frameless ducati roadbike. very very neat stuff.
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x251/seusssandm/ducati_drawing.jpg)
Quote from: Düb Lüv on August 28, 2010, 05:08:21 AM
this reminds me of the frameless ducati roadbike. very very neat stuff.
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x251/seusssandm/ducati_drawing.jpg)
one bump and that sump becomes a post hole digger
Quote from: truckinduc on August 16, 2010, 02:15:28 PM
The tube will interfere with removing the side cover.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/9pvwoh.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/34o535i.jpg)
I guess thats why the superbikes frames are like this. I dont like it though cause this is the furthest back my frame is, no shock mount behind that motor mount.
Pantah frame had a similar interference problem with the vertical belt cover. Ducati decided to flatten the tube at that point on the inside so there was room. I can try to take pics, I have a spare frame sitting in the garage.
Here is how Ducati did it on the Pantah:
Frame member right next to the belt cover: if the tube wasn't flattened, it would be about 2mm IN the belt cover. (click thumbnails for full size)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0090.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0090.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0091.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0091.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0092.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0092.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0093.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0093.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0094.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0094.jpg)
thats pretty ingenious. i would never have thought to do that to the frame, for fear of compromising the the integrity of the tube its self. but if ducati engineers think that its ok then who am i to say differently
Quote from: ducatiz on August 28, 2010, 06:23:17 AM
Here is how Ducati did it on the Pantah:
Frame member right next to the belt cover: if the tube wasn't flattened, it would be about 2mm IN the belt cover. (click thumbnails for full size)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0090.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0090.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0091.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0091.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0092.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0092.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0093.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0093.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/th_CIMG0094.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DMF/CIMG0094.jpg)
Hey thanks alot for the pictures. It almost seems like a mistake or an afterthought though. Or the frame guys and engine guys didnt get together enough pre production.
Thats the simplest option and most likely what ill do, although it will only be a very small area compared to the pantah frame.
Quote from: Düb Lüv on August 28, 2010, 05:08:21 AM
this reminds me of the frameless ducati roadbike. very very neat stuff.
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x251/seusssandm/ducati_drawing.jpg)
Yep, its VERY similar to they way the d16rr and desmosedichi's (sp) rear suspension. Honda did it first with the rc211v and then the 600rr and 1000rr. It apparently upsets the chassis less while leaned over on a less than smooth surface.
I want to have the first monster with that style rear suspension. Its hard to be original these days.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 29, 2010, 07:20:54 AM
Hey thanks alot for the pictures. It almost seems like a mistake or an afterthought though. Or the frame guys and engine guys didnt get together enough pre production.
Thats the simplest option and most likely what ill do, although it will only be a very small area compared to the pantah frame.
That's a good question, and probably true.
However, they had 12 years to figure it out -- that frame is from an Alazzurra, which is just a last-generation Pantah rebadged by Cagiva. The frames on the first Pantah 500s are nearly identical.
I think they were trying to make the frame as thin as possible, which is a selling point of the L-twin layout.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 29, 2010, 07:25:20 AM
Yep, its VERY similar to they way the d16rr and desmosedichi's (sp) rear suspension. Honda did it first with the rc211v and then the 600rr and 1000rr. It apparently upsets the chassis less while leaned over on a less than smooth surface.
I want to have the first monster with that style rear suspension. Its hard to be original these days.
i didn't know your suspension design was close to the frameless design. your frame work reminded of how the frame and engine are mounted. the frame being in 2 pieces and how the engine is holding everything together. amazingly simplifying the monster's design even more.
I can't quote from this blackberry but that seems very logical. I can't stand to ride inline 4's due to their width.
My frame is very similar to the ducati supermono frame, Although the rear suspension configuration is different. In stock configuration the engine is a stressed member. In my version it also is, just in a different way. I'm joining the frame and swingarm pivot to eliminate a lot of unnecessary forces through the rear of the case since I'm removing so much material.
sorry truckin, i meant you're amazingly simplifying the monster's design even more. having the trellis swingarm cleans up the profile of the bike sooooo much. very nice and inspiring work.
In my opinion ducati's "frame-less" patent is anything but frame less. I see a separate frame for the front suspension and a frame for the rear suspension, only they are not connected.
An actual fraimless bike to me is the v1000.
(http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/ian.huntly/BRITOP.jpg)
worked on the eccentrics more today
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2qlr6gy.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/28bsaqr.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/ezopko.jpg)
tomorrow they go on a diet.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/10yev4o.jpg)
Also got the motor jig complete for the front end.
finished the eccentrics today. they look good and are very light weight. too bad I cant use them. Oh well they will at least work for mockup and the swingarm jig. 3 days of work down the drain.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2w2ehwl.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/4pyqnm.jpg)
And you can't use them because.... ???
take a look at the pictures and see if you can figure out why I cannot use them.
hint, first pic.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/66x27k.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2882zaf.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/54esqs.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on September 02, 2010, 09:05:28 AM
take a look at the pictures and see if you can figure out why I cannot use them.
hint, first pic.
ahhhh.. you instibated the circular confabulator and the modular kreason has too much heptalagular radius...
man.. sorry.
na its actually very simple. ill give you another hint.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/25in9j5.jpg)
sheeeeeet
you aren't turning that too much!
Quote from: ducatiz on September 02, 2010, 09:20:43 AM
ahhhh.. you instibated the circular confabulator and the modular kreason has too much heptalagular radius...
I believe the hexaform compression unit would be adversely abrading the aforementioned heteroclitic axial retention unit.
Pretty clear now....thought the flange for the nut was the same depth as the ring.
oops :)
Too bad, I really liked the eccentrics.
Can' you use a longer axle with a spacer behind the nut?
(Love this thread BTW. [thumbsup] )
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on September 02, 2010, 09:48:23 AM
I believe the hexaform compression unit would be adversely abrading the aforementioned heteroclitic axial retention unit.
bingo. It was a stupid mistake because I started making the pieces before I had the axle.
I like these too but its ok because version 2 will be even better. I made these manually, the new set ill knock out on the cnc.
started parts of the mockup swingarm. the funny thing below the axle is a tool I made today.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/25pmr9d.jpg)
it takes shitty things like this
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2vkxptw.jpg)
and spins like this
(http://i52.tinypic.com/141m5jb.jpg)
which results in a nice flat and true face like this
(http://i54.tinypic.com/34hw2fo.jpg)
so these can press in nice and flush, after coating.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/znrgy0.jpg)
also Im making one of these.
Baileigh TN-250 Tube & Pipe Notcher with Radial Vise Tubing Notching Pipe Coping Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9au7P7_Ni3I#normal)
Loooove this thread!
so anyone wanna tell me why I need a reed valve in my crankcase breather when none of my other bikes have a reed valve?
Here is why I ask. I am designing my rear subframe mount and it would be better if I could make a smaller breather with no reed valve inside. The breather will be fed into my subframe for additional volume and then into the airbox.
Im going to take a guess and say the valve will close under negative pressure and help assist the other piston down. But is there ever really negative crankcase pressure?
Someone correct me if I am wrong. I believe it's to prevent overflow. I have a custom breather valve on my bike that does not have a reed valve and have not had any problems or overflow. Though I don't do wheelies and this may be where it would become needed.
apparently the old TT F1 didnt have a reed valve. it had a oil seperater box in the tail under the batter. It allowed the oil to drain back into the case without blowing it out.
it was basically a two-chamber box with a air passage that stopped oil blowby.
a hose would run from the case to the box hidden.
None of the pantahs have a reed valve.
The crank vent nozzle has a short labyrinth which, combined withe the longer hose, does nearly the same job. Reed works better with a short hose.
well all in all the subframe, about 5 feet worth, should collect any oil on its inner walls and let it drain back down. I ran for a long time with a bart simpson head on the breather with holes cut in it. never had oil puke out, just a slight residue after 1000 or so miles.
I guess im more interested in the performance of reed valve vs no reed valve.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 06, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
well all in all the subframe, about 5 feet worth, should collect any oil on its inner walls and let it drain back down. I ran for a long time with a bart simpson head on the breather with holes cut in it. never had oil puke out, just a slight residue after 1000 or so miles.
I guess im more interested in the performance of reed valve vs no reed valve.
it is probably also a function of engine speed and the volume of the barrels which would affect the total vacuum.
old pantah 500/600/650/750 engines revving under 8k are no comparison to SBK-class engine speed and displacement. more vacuum = needs more expansion space.
Just ordered the 4130 DOM tubing for the frame and swingarm.
Bought a program for designing my suspension linkage. Ill post some screen shots. I need some help deciding how progressive to make the rising rate for the shock.
making some v blocks at school today for the mockup swingarm.
Out of curiosity, what software are you using?
http://www.bikechecker.com/home.phtml (http://www.bikechecker.com/home.phtml)
tubing came yesterday. should have the mockup swingarm done this weekend.
[popcorn]
The only bad thing with projects that are this custom, is they are never done fast enough. Impatient people (me) can't wait to see this thing finished.
Again, keep up the good work [thumbsup]
Wow! I don't know what else to say. [clap] [popcorn]
sadly progress will be slow for a while. A good friend of mine was murdered on thursday and my best friends dad died yesterday, I used to live with them. Ill get back to the build as soon as I can.
My condolences
Unfortunately, sometimes life gets in the way of motorcycle related activities. I am sorry that you have lost two people that were close to you.
Sorry to hear the bad news...
Best wishes.
Damn, condolences.
sorry to hear..
Outch, sorry for your loss
thanks everyone. I am making a top triple for my dads bike.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/24fmvjq.jpg)
Looks great
[thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on September 12, 2010, 12:01:23 PM
thanks everyone. I am making a top triple for my dads bike.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/24fmvjq.jpg)
...out of an upside-down bottom triple? [popcorn]
Sorry for your loss
sorry for your loss. I hope tomorrow is a better day for you and those you love.
thank you for the well wishes everyone.
Quote from: pompetta on September 13, 2010, 11:06:12 AM
...out of an upside-down bottom triple? [popcorn]
nope. that one is actually plastic.
correct. This one is just to make sure the bores are in the right location, right offcet etc. When we got the GSXR front end it had the wrong upper triple, so I decided to make one.
Ill be making both upper and lower triples with 30mm offset for my monster.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/30j6vrd.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2romkhu.jpg)
Wow.
That's impressive!
[clap] [clap] [clap]
(http://i51.tinypic.com/293vi88.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2cpx286.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2ufyauc.jpg)
massaged the tube a little for clearance. it messed up my gap slightly but its ok.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/315csxi.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/fp76rq.jpg)
Now that is the bollocks - more info please...
Quote from: truckinduc on September 14, 2010, 07:09:09 AM
... so I decided to make one.
Ill be making both upper and lower triples with 30mm offset for my monster.
I love how you say this so nonchalantly, like it is no big thing!
Quote from: m1moto on September 14, 2010, 04:40:49 PM
(http://i30.tinypic.com/fp76rq.jpg)
Now that is the bollocks - more info please...
Its a zb 32 ironhead BSA motor highly modified to OHC. Custom frame, tank, subframe and tail.
GSXR forks, shortened upside down VFR swingarm. oil in frame.
We are building another one now thats even more radical.
Quote from: emanon on September 14, 2010, 06:53:27 PM
I love how you say this so nonchalantly, like it is no big thing!
well, im teaching myself CNC right now and its a great learning process.
venting the clutch case.
Bye Bye Agip sticker
(http://i52.tinypic.com/k4v5uu.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/25hpjx0.jpg)
lightened the clutch basket too, but its not finished.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2zewkf6.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2rmtl6x.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2zqv3ix.jpg)
did you talk about this before?
Are you using the perimeter brakes for this project?
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2rmtl6x.jpg)
yes im using the buell ZTL wheel and brake, slightly modified. Its paired with RC 51 forks.
Im debating on using the stock fork lowers or making my own to mount the caliper.
here is the front end setup
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2rw0rc5.jpg)
OHH I HAVE A QUESTION.
My clutch pushrod, or whatever you wanna call it. The rod that goes through the engine from the slave cyl. to the pressure plate throw out bearing.
The rod is nice and oily with some thick black sludge. Is that normal or do I need to replace the 2 O rings on the slave side?
Or are there other seals?
I've never seen any "sludge" on mine, but it should be lubed. I'd replace the o-rings while you have the rod out just in case. They're only a buck or two.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 14, 2010, 08:38:33 PM
OHH I HAVE A QUESTION.
My clutch pushrod, or whatever you wanna call it. The rod that goes through the engine from the slave cyl. to the pressure plate throw out bearing.
The rod is nice and oily with some thick black sludge. Is that normal or do I need to replace the 2 O rings on the slave side?
Or are there other seals?
could the sludge be chain lube?
If it's really wet in there a leaky slave could be the culprit...or the two o-rings you mentioned.
There is a seal at the other end to keep the clutch dry on dry clutch models.
When the man who is doing this work says he is modding his bike , he means it. This is like re-inventing the wheel. Awesome stuff. I truly appreciate your skills, desire to be different and abilities. You and your father are truly inspiring, ,keep up the good work boys.
Best wishes for you both [thumbsup]
BGB.
Possibly my favorite thread on the board. It's like an all-access pass to a mad scientist's secret underground lab...
Thanks for sharing all your progress with us.
thanks guys.
Its not like chain lube, its like brake fluid mixed with oil.
I was going to do a milled plate for a gusset, but now I think im going to go in this direction.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/azark5.jpg)
The untrained engineering section of my brain thinks a plate would be stronger and more resistant to bending, but my eye likes the look of that a lot more.
It'll probably be fine for the loads that joint will see.
do it!
[thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on September 14, 2010, 07:59:32 PM
Its a zb 32 ironhead BSA motor highly modified to OHC. Custom frame, tank, subframe and tail.
GSXR forks, shortened upside down VFR swingarm. oil in frame.
We are building another one now thats even more radical.
This thing is BADASS!!! I want!!!
QuoteI was going to do a milled plate for a gusset, but now I think im going to go in this direction.
Ducati did similar on their Corse/factory bikes in the early 90`s:
http://www.madeinitalymotorcycles.com/888corsa%20291107.jpg (http://www.madeinitalymotorcycles.com/888corsa%20291107.jpg)
Interesting project! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monsterlowsider on September 15, 2010, 08:55:58 AM
The untrained engineering section of my brain thinks a plate would be stronger and more resistant to bending, but my eye likes the look of that a lot more.
It'll probably be fine for the loads that joint will see.
do it!
[thumbsup]
In my mind this way will be stronger and lighter. It distributes the load over a larger surface area.
This thread is possibly the best thing on the internet, its the first thing I look at when I turn on my computer. I love the fact that you have enough balls to do what you do and the skill to do it. Well done [clap]
Don
P.S keep the photos coming
Quote from: truckinduc on September 15, 2010, 08:41:02 AM
thanks guys.
Its not like chain lube, its like brake fluid mixed with oil.
I was going to do a milled plate for a gusset, but now I think im going to go in this direction.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/azark5.jpg)
Very attractive bracing.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 14, 2010, 08:38:33 PM
OHH I HAVE A QUESTION.
My clutch pushrod, or whatever you wanna call it. The rod that goes through the engine from the slave cyl. to the pressure plate throw out bearing.
The rod is nice and oily with some thick black sludge. Is that normal or do I need to replace the 2 O rings on the slave side?
Or are there other seals?
Older Ducati's that have been ridden hard can get a black oily sludge inside the transmission input shaft (where the push-rod lies). Replace the O-rings, the needle-roller bearing and seal on the other end after cleaning out liberally w/brake-cleaner. The bearing can get neglected and if it seizes it can get ugly...
mo makin stuff lighta
(http://i51.tinypic.com/16jeqex.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2nv5hec.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/112fmm0.jpg)
rotating mass = BAD
Quote from: The Don on September 15, 2010, 04:14:10 PM
This thread is possibly the best thing on the internet, its the first thing I look at when I turn on my computer. I love the fact that you have enough balls to do what you do and the skill to do it. Well done [clap]
Don
P.S keep the photos coming
Thank you. I have alot of builds planned out for the future.
Quote from: Duck-Stew on September 15, 2010, 06:17:06 PM
Older Ducati's that have been ridden hard can get a black oily sludge inside the transmission input shaft (where the push-rod lies). Replace the O-rings, the needle-roller bearing and seal on the other end after cleaning out liberally w/brake-cleaner. The bearing can get neglected and if it seizes it can get ugly...
Thank you. the needle bearing is in the clutch side correct? Do I pull the slave cyl. to drive it out?
I think it's a 8mm bolt that can be threaded (or something like that) into it from the clutch side and then it can be pulled out w/the bolt.
Or, you could remove the push-rod and try to drive it out from the slave-cylinder side. It doesn't sit too deep into the shaft on the clutch side... You'll see it and removal won't be an issue. Last time I bought a new bearing it was $12 and the seal was $5.
hey there it is.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2zqv3ix.jpg)
Don't forget to punch some holes in the primary gear
that'll help too
well I was thinking about that. Is it a common thing to do? pictures?
swingarm/shock setup looks like this to me
(http://www.roadson.fr/BT550Superleggera/images/episode/ep18-im01.jpg)
Saw your stuff over on customfighters (http://www.customfighters.com/forums/images/smilies/shocker.gif) a while back... [beer]
Awesome to see you over here too. You were my introduction to the Monster. Before I read thru your thread on CF I thought all Ducs were sport bikes :p Now I'm saving to buy a new monster this spring.
Great to see more progress on your project. Truly inspiring.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 16, 2010, 07:58:56 AM
well I was thinking about that. Is it a common thing to do? pictures?
page two
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16603.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16603.0)
[bacon]...... [popcorn]
Sweet pictures. I wanna do it so bad. Unfortunatly I dont have the tooling to do it. Sad Sad day.
Got a new project a few days ago. Needs alot of work. Thats project 27 if anyone is counting.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/20uzpfc.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2i1k3g6.jpg)
and started building another hybrid bike, but I cant talk about it.
anyone know what oil PSI range the 900 carbed motor runs at? Id like to go with a gauge mounted right to the case. Right now im thinking a 0 to 60 psi gauge.
Ugh, Model A 5 window? I Want one so baaaad...
yep. A 30 or 31 Its an old dirt track car. probably raced in the 40's from looking at the cage and suspension work.
My dad is 62 and has always wanted to build one. Good thing, cause we are going to have to rebuild about 95% of this one.
You will need a gauge that reads more than 6 bar, which is about 90 PSI
Quote from: truckinduc on September 19, 2010, 06:26:58 PM
anyone know what oil PSI range the 900 carbed motor runs at? Id like to go with a gauge mounted right to the case. Right now im thinking a 0 to 60 psi gauge.
i just changed my Pantah from a switch to a gage.
I had to use this:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#4822t41/=8xekp7 (http://www.mcmaster.com/#4822t41/=8xekp7)
All the gages I found were NPT, but you'll have to get one with a high range as you're reading right off the pump line.
Quote from: howie on September 19, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
You will need a gauge that reads more than 6 bar, which is about 90 PSI
what he said
alright, wow 90 lbs. Im guessing thats when the motor is just started up cold.
I can make an adaptor no problem.
(http://www.mooneyesusa.com/images/mpg120lf.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on September 20, 2010, 08:42:46 AM
alright, wow 90 lbs. Im guessing thats when the motor is just started up cold.
I can make an adaptor no problem.
I have a digital one on my '01 900 (thanks motogadget) and it maxes out at 100 and a min of around 20 PSI.
thank you
version 2.0
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2n0k6d.jpg)
Not to bash your work, but the 'spokes' looks a bit 'flimsy'. Wouldn't want something like that to break on my bike.
Quote from: ReginaDiCuori on September 21, 2010, 09:26:35 AM
Not to bash your work, but the 'spokes' looks a bit 'flimsy'. Wouldn't want something like that to break on my bike.
You realize that's not a wheel...right?
Quote from: ReginaDiCuori on September 21, 2010, 09:26:35 AM
Not to bash your work, but the 'spokes' looks a bit 'flimsy'. Wouldn't want something like that to break on my bike.
honestly I could get rid of the spokes and I would be fine. I would ride it without the spokes because there is so much material shared between the inner and outer rings. The spokes are there to give additional strength. Eh you will see soon enough.
Quote from: humorless dp on September 21, 2010, 12:45:44 PM
You realize that's not a wheel...right?
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: humorless dp on September 21, 2010, 12:45:44 PM
You realize that's not a wheel...right?
Well duuuh, hence the single quotes. :P It's a hemispherical hub like the one on the 748-916.
Quote from: ReginaDiCuori on September 22, 2010, 02:26:04 AM
hemispherical
Nope.
And like truckinduc said, it would probably be strong enough without any of those spokes in there at all.
There's enough meat shared where the inner and outer circumferences meet to do the job.
The part isn't undergoing any rotational forces, only straight line.
Quote from: ReginaDiCuori on September 22, 2010, 02:26:04 AM
Well duuuh, hence the single quotes. :P It's a hemispherical hub like the one on the 748-916.
Same idea but different forces. A single sided swingarm has to cope with all the forces in a single arm-hub. these are eccentric hub adjusters. If it were for a single sided swingarm It would be much beefier. Since the load is distributed and shared between two arms, with quite a bit of space inbetween, the forces are not as concentrated.
Quote from: ReginaDiCuori on September 22, 2010, 02:26:04 AM
Well duuuh, hence the single quotes. :P It's a hemispherical hub like the one on the 748-916.
Its an
eccentric hub. I never understood that verbiage.
Acentric seems more logical, and is a synonym for eccentric.
Maybe someone who's truly learned could fill us in on the etymology. make the beast with two backs Google: I'm not looking it up. >:(
Quote from: truckinduc on September 22, 2010, 09:59:07 AM
Same idea but different forces. A single sided swingarm has to cope with all the forces in a single arm-hub. these are eccentric hub adjusters. If it were for a single sided swingarm It would be much beefier. Since the load is distributed and shared between two arms, with quite a bit of space inbetween, the forces are not as concentrated.
Eccentric, not hemispherical! :-[ Bah, curse English as a second language!
I understand your point, but I would still be concerned. If the frame can crack, I think the adjusters might as well. Look at the eccentric adjuster for the rear shock on the Bimota DB7 for example: they shave a lot of material off, but it's mostly full.
Let me also point out that I'm not trying to put you (or your work) down! I really admire what you're doing and what you've already done with your VTR project. Keep it up! [thumbsup]
No offense taken. I guess im taking it to the limit!
Frames crack because of ducati's welding techniques.
so I should have made the eccentrics today, but I didnt. Ive been dying to get started on my exhaust so I finally did. Lots O cutting and Welding. Its going to be ALOT of work but worth it in the end, in my opinion anyway.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/htid08.jpg)
for a very novice welder like myself that looks like a nightmare lol.
Make sure to get a shot of it off the bike too so we can admire the handiwork :)
well its Titanium so we will see.
o rly now. THAT is spectacular.
been reading this since morning....(Malaysian hour ;D)
well,like everyone said,you are great at what you did...
you did it well,clean and neat...
with all the utilities and machineries,wow...u have that at your home...cool..
btw,how's the price like for those Ti tubing?
ps:sorry for the bad english
Thank you. Most of the machines I use are at school.
I got a good deal on all of the titanium at the junkyard, I paid 1$ per pound. So ive got about 30$ in my exhaust so far.
That being said does anyone have any rashed up Ti mufflers? Im looking for one to cut up and make my muffler out of.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 22, 2010, 06:39:32 PM
so I should have made the eccentrics today, but I didnt. Ive been dying to get started on my exhaust so I finally did. Lots O cutting and Welding. Its going to be ALOT of work but worth it in the end, in my opinion anyway.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/htid08.jpg)
:o Looks like that will keep you busy for a while. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 22, 2010, 08:02:54 PM
Thank you. Most of the machines I use are at school.
I got a good deal on all of the titanium at the junkyard, I paid 1$ per pound. So ive got about 30$ in my exhaust so far.
That being said does anyone have any rashed up Ti mufflers? Im looking for one to cut up and make my muffler out of.
I don't have any extra laying around, but I'll trade you my dinged-up remus TI hi-mounts if you've got a suitable alternative... Arrows, CF cans, something... I'd take CF low-mounts if you had some knocking around, I'm not too picky... One of the cans is pristene, one has a depression from a door opening into it... pics available if you're interested.
BTW, what's the skinny on welding TI? I've done some basic ARC, MIG, and oxy-acetylene, but heard TI needs to be done differently?
Thx!
Ive got nothing. Oh well.
For Ti to be done properly it needs to be welded in a vacume chamber, or argon or helium environment. When the material gets above 800 degrees f it becomes contaminated if exposed to oxygen or other elements in the air.
You can get away with lots of shielding gas and purging the inside of the tubing. This is what ill be doing.
started my mockup, cant do much untill I build my swingarm.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/295ydzq.jpg)
are you sure hot glue will be suitable for holding the exhaust together?
jk great work ; )
Quote from: adgergewh on September 23, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
jk great work ; )
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
That was a good job hiding that.
It took me about 10 seconds of sitting there going "is this guy really serious??" before I saw it.
[thumbsup]
eta: After seeing your fabrication skills on those swingarm pivot frame extensions, I'm really eager to see how your exhaust welds look. 8)
Hey that Hot glue is now cold glue and its some potent stuff. I think it will hold fine.......until I crank the bike.
well I have to go cut out some eccentrics now. Bye.
Oh ya I also got some TFC carbon fiber yesterday. Not sure what I want to make out of it yet. Any Ideas?
TFC stands for Thermo Formable Composite. So I can't use it for anything that will see over 300 degrees f.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 24, 2010, 10:55:05 AM
Oh ya I also got some TFC carbon fiber yesterday. Not sure what I want to make out of it yet. Any Ideas?
TFC stands for Thermo Formable Composite. So I can't use it for anything that will see over 300 degrees f.
is it a flat sheet? or just the cloth and you have to add the hardener? how would you mold it? i can think of a bunch of carbon fiber goodies to make just to sure of you would go about it. pics are always helpful
Quote from: truckinduc on September 24, 2010, 10:55:05 AM
Oh ya I also got some TFC carbon fiber yesterday. Not sure what I want to make out of it yet. Any Ideas?
TFC stands for Thermo Formable Composite. So I can't use it for anything that will see over 300 degrees f.
I don't remember, do you have a fender for that new front end yet?
Quote from: hadesducati848 on September 24, 2010, 11:07:28 AM
is it a flat sheet? or just the cloth and you have to add the hardener? how would you mold it? i can think of a bunch of carbon fiber goodies to make just to sure of you would go about it. pics are always helpful
Yes its flat sheet. Its medical stuff used to make insoles and braces. You heat it to 350 degrees, form it. Let it cool. Then heat to 425 in a vaccume to bond multiple layers, if your using layers.
It cant be used to make very complex shapes like conventional CF.
Quote from: Rameses on September 24, 2010, 11:12:11 AM
I don't remember, do you have a fender for that new front end yet?
No I dont have a fender, thats a very good suggestion. This stuff is rather thick. Im thinking about the fork tube protectors similar to a Hypermotard.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 24, 2010, 12:12:56 PM
Would you do a separate mounting bracket or try to make it out of the same piece of CF like the ones on the hyper?
Well honestly im contemplating making new fork lowers for the RC 51 fork to mount the Buell ZTL caliper. Im not sure if Im good enough to make them though. But If I do I can make any kind of fender mounts that I like.
Truly a great thread!!
Great work on everything. [thumbsup]
The only other person I've met that's this creative and capable is Duck-Stew. Keep up the good work and I can't wait to see the finished product. So far it sounds like it's gonna be one of the most custom Monsters I've ever seen.
Tacked the new tubes in. Waiting on some 4130 for the motor mounts until I can finish it.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2hf8951.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/14kv6u1.jpg)
and started playing around with the TFC. Its strong stuff.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/vxbz2d.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/25hzr49.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/dw3m1j.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/de4uix.jpg)
looks weldone. [cheeky]
any particular reason for not welding on the rest?
well at the moment the motor mounts, the part the bolt goes through, is only mild steel. Im waiting on getting some 4130 to make them out of.
version 2.0 Notice the ample room for a socket, all .200" of it.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/fuxcp.jpg)
also notice the backside is milled. Just need to make the other one and the adjustment tool.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2s61zit.jpg)
[popcorn]
how are you going to turn the eccentrics in the swingarm? Are you going to mark degree indicators on them for matching?
ill be making a special tool to turn them. as far as indexing them im not sure yet.
QUESTION... Has anyone upgraded the regulator rectifier on an older 900 motor? Im pretty sure it will swap with another 3 wire unit like I have on other jap bikes. None of my other bikes run their stock R/R. Id like to replace it with a smaller more heavily finned unit, as well as step up the wire size.
I dont care about plugs as ill be building my own harness.
http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/rr51-regulator-rectifier-737-0.html (http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/rr51-regulator-rectifier-737-0.html)
will work I think.
What is the weight of the frame?
right now its around 14 lbs. It should be around 16 lbs finished and braced up.
Quote from: greenmonster on September 27, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/rr51-regulator-rectifier-737-0.html (http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/rr51-regulator-rectifier-737-0.html)
will work I think.
What is the weight of the frame?
These folks too
http://www.ricksmotorsportelectrics.com (http://www.ricksmotorsportelectrics.com)
Wasn't somebody here talking about building a much smarter, much smaller, reg/rec? where is that thread anyways...
Quote from: Ducatl on September 28, 2010, 08:25:05 AM
Wasn't somebody here talking about building a much smarter, much smaller, reg/rec? where is that thread anyways...
suzyj in tech...
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=38021.msg672254#msg672254 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=38021.msg672254#msg672254)
finished the new Eccentrics. What do you think?
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2rgdqub.jpg)
better pictures soon
Very nice. [thumbsup] Those look sweet.
better pictures
(http://i53.tinypic.com/33w2p2e.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2wmpfcz.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/mv0s92.jpg)
Insufficient vocabulary, so: [drool] [thumbsup] [beer]
[popcorn]
LOVE this thread.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 28, 2010, 07:16:44 PM
better pictures
(http://i53.tinypic.com/33w2p2e.jpg)
is that lock screw sufficient to prevent the axle from turning? i assume it is.
I sure hope so.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 29, 2010, 05:10:46 AM
I sure hope so.
Tell me what materials you used and I'll run the math on it if you want.
make the beast with two backsing awesome project btw [thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on September 29, 2010, 05:10:46 AM
I sure hope so.
Does the lock screw even perform that function?
Looks to me that it's just a key to ensure both eccentrics turn together.
Well, first time looking at this thread.
First let me say, WOW. You, Sir, have mad skills. And you are what, 20 now? 21? Amazing. You have a bright future ahead of you.
This looks to be an amazing project, and I can't wait to see the finished product.
Oh, and how is your knee?
looks like the flat part of the axle needed some kinda of flat spot on the eccentric to lock into
Quote from: humorless dp on September 29, 2010, 05:24:08 AM
Does the lock screw even perform that function?
Looks to me that it's just a key to ensure both eccentrics turn together.
Its just to keep the axle from spinning when I torque the nut on the other side.
Quote from: El Matador on September 29, 2010, 05:13:30 AM
Tell me what materials you used and I'll run the math on it if you want.
make the beast with two backsing awesome project btw [thumbsup]
Im not worried about that, but im trying to design a suspension linkage part to be strong and light. Do you have any modeling or stress anaylsis software?
Anyone know the spacing of these holes? Its kinda dificult to measure them.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2h58bnq.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on September 29, 2010, 11:56:22 AM
Im not worried about that, but im trying to design a suspension linkage part to be strong and light. Do you have any modeling or stress anaylsis software?
Yes, but only at school.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 29, 2010, 12:04:19 PM
Anyone know the spacing of these holes? Its kinda dificult to measure them.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2h58bnq.jpg)
Calipers? The two on the right are on the same Y plane, and you could measure the one on the left to each of the 2 on the right and trig it out to get it's location in relation. . .
Ive aready got it done, I just wanted to compare to see if im close or exact.
When I've had to measure holes on different planes I used wooden dowels, inserted them and cut them to the same plane, then measured their centers. Always been precise enough for me.
I rubbed them with graphite then put a piece of paper on them and transfered it to the paper.
Then I can measure the centers with calipers on the paper.
what are those holes threaded to? M10? Im at school right now so I cant look.
im gonna make a set of plates to test the bolt holes and to index them with a stainless rod.
Then Ill make the real plates and linkage mount. This is the suspension engine mount for the unit pro link setup.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/243gld5.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on September 29, 2010, 01:00:01 PM
I rubbed them with graphite then put a piece of paper on them and transfered it to the paper.
Then I can measure the centers with calipers on the paper.
that theoretically is an incorrect method of measuring them unless the bracket you are making is going to bend in the exact way the paper did. you should get too long of a distance by pressing the paper. you should do what was said before and use some sort of spacer to even the planes, whether it's a dowel or washers but you need to even out the planes and then measure center to center.
I wish you would post a dimension of these holes....I've been wanting to have a engine stand adaptor made up/bent out of steel but never got around to measuring out the holes....
Quote from: adgergewh on September 29, 2010, 02:55:26 PM
that theoretically is an incorrect method of measuring them unless the bracket you are making is going to bend in the exact way the paper did. you should get too long of a distance by pressing the paper. you should do what was said before and use some sort of spacer to even the planes, whether it's a dowel or washers but you need to even out the planes and then measure center to center.
Actually the paper didnt bend at all because the 3 Boss's are all on the same plane. So It did work.
Quote from: TAftonomos on September 29, 2010, 04:52:27 PM
I wish you would post a dimension of these holes....I've been wanting to have a engine stand adaptor made up/bent out of steel but never got around to measuring out the holes....
Sure I will. Tonight I should be able to confirm the fitment. If it fits ill draw up a print of the locations.
Then Ill do the other side of the motor with the 4 holes. It may be a tad harder.
hey looks familiar
(http://i53.tinypic.com/243gld5.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/9t0fmp.jpg)
Here's a couple ways. You can use or make some plug gauges, which are just dowels turned to fit precisely fit the holes, then measure the distances to the outsides of each pair, subtract the radii, then trig it out.
If you're going to make some precise fitting plugs, you could also make them into transfer punches by turning some points on the ends. With the transfer punches in the holes, hold some sheet or plate stock against them and give it a tap with hammer.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 29, 2010, 12:04:19 PM
Anyone know the spacing of these holes? Its kinda dificult to measure them.
Yep I thought of that method too. That would be my next course of action if this test plate did not work. The paper transfer method is actually working out pretty well.
fit perfectly
(http://i56.tinypic.com/x516k2.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/10hrh2h.jpg)
and made Ducati special tool #477 the cam nut removal tool
(http://i52.tinypic.com/33k99hi.jpg)
other side, one hole is slightly off, the one on the far right. No big deal.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/71678o.jpg)
Five days and that's all you've done??? Hurry the hell up!
;)
in my defense i also did this
M2U00010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXI_lZ09eCk#normal)
[laugh] I don't think that video defends you in any way! [laugh]
Beautiful horses!! ...and they had the good sense to get out of the way!! [laugh]
Can we get some pics of that bike? ;D
Quote from: flanman on October 04, 2010, 06:09:08 PM
Can we get some pics of that bike? ;D
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=6965.msg733578#msg733578 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=6965.msg733578#msg733578)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/op4g8n.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2aim15f.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2jg7z4h.jpg)
Made the last pieces missing from the frame today. I have to finish them tomorrow, but they are pretty trick.
here you go Howley you whiner...
(http://i52.tinypic.com/eg9z61.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/206dhmb.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/1078029.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2s1putc.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on October 04, 2010, 07:21:19 PM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/op4g8n.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2aim15f.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2jg7z4h.jpg)
Love this swingarm, it adds a whole different dimension to the bike! [thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on October 04, 2010, 09:59:58 AM
in my defense i also did this
M2U00010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXI_lZ09eCk#normal)
so ummm... do tires grow on trees where your from? if so can you send me a few ;D
awesome burnout ... now im embarressed to post my lil 20 sec video :-[
Quote from: truckinduc on October 04, 2010, 09:15:31 PM
here you go Howley you whiner...
You are forgiven. What is the cutout in that mount for?
Quote from: Howley on October 05, 2010, 03:30:07 AM
You are forgiven. What is the cutout in that mount for?
+1
And what're we looking for in that last picture?
Did you clearance your side cover some to help it fit past your frame if you need to remove it?
Quote from: Rameses on October 05, 2010, 03:48:04 AM
+1
And what're we looking for in that last picture?
Did you clearance your side cover some to help it fit past your frame if you need to remove it?
Isn't the cut-out facing the wrong direction for that?
[popcorn]
Quote from: pompetta on October 05, 2010, 04:12:36 AM
Isn't the cut-out facing the wrong direction for that?
[popcorn]
No dude, the
last picture.
This one...
Quote from: truckinduc on October 04, 2010, 09:15:31 PM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2s1putc.jpg)
Quote from: hadesducati848 on October 05, 2010, 01:21:29 AM
so ummm... do tires grow on trees where your from? if so can you send me a few ;D
awesome burnout ... now im embarressed to post my lil 20 sec video :-[
Nope, but my rear was showing cords and my front was also toasted. So I decided why not. Threw on a set of Dunlop sportmax gp's and promptly crashed on them last night.
Quote from: Howley on October 05, 2010, 03:30:07 AM
You are forgiven. What is the cutout in that mount for?
Quote from: Rameses on October 05, 2010, 03:48:04 AM
+1
And what're we looking for in that last picture?
Did you clearance your side cover some to help it fit past your frame if you need to remove it?
Exactly. The new shiny aluminum has been clearanced to help remove the side cover. If you remember I also clearanced the frame.
The cutouts are to save weight and to look cool. Ill be making them slightly bigger today.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 05, 2010, 09:42:42 AM
Nope, but my rear was showing cords and my front was also toasted. So I decided why not. Threw on a set of Dunlop sportmax gp's and promptly crashed on them last night.
hahaha same here, i only did the burnout cause i was in front of the tire shop about to get new Q2s put on my bike. would have smoked it out longer but i was affraid the tire would explode and damage something on my bike or one of the bmws that were around me.
sorry to hear about the crash. i assume that since you replyed quickly that you made it out alive. lets see... that makes your second crash in less then a year correct? perhaps you stop riding bikes untill you finish the monster build 8-)
hahaha
ya not too much I can damage on this thing.
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/fun%20with%20rubber/DSC00537.jpg)
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/fun%20with%20rubber/DSC00544.jpg)
Ya ive had two easy lowsides. First one due to tiny gravel in a parking lot, this one due to 35 degrees outside and me not knowing how slick my new tires are cold. I would stop riding as much but its my only form of transportation.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 05, 2010, 12:46:02 PM
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That shock reservoir looks like it'd be hell on the nads in a panic braking situation. :o
Its never been a problem. Think about it, your hands and feet are both in front of you keeping your body from sliding forward. Now if it had rearsets it would be a different story.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 05, 2010, 02:41:03 PM
Its never been a problem. Think about it, your hands and feet are both in front of you keeping your body from sliding forward. Now if it had rearsets it would be a different story.
Yeah, I've never ridden anything with forward controls.
I guess that's why I didn't think about that.
Still... I don't know if I'd wanna take my chances with that. [laugh]
Finally some make the beast with two backsing progress.
finished the motor mounts
(http://i54.tinypic.com/11cf8gm.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2m81i00.jpg)
got everything lined up just right and tacked em into place
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2n9yhxv.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/30csrci.jpg)
I think they will look pretty cool when all welded up. What do YOU think?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/25ri3bn.jpg)
Bellissimo!! [moto]
very nice. Some creative machining there. [thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on October 06, 2010, 07:03:54 AM
got everything lined up just right and tacked em into place
tacked does_not_equal welded, took me a moment to realize that :-[ [cheeky]
great work, I really envy you! [thumbsup]
more frame welding done.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/152eukw.jpg)
I hate wasting good titanium
(http://i54.tinypic.com/1p9mc0.jpg)
and made some new flanges for my different style exhaust
(http://i51.tinypic.com/34nk0b6.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/io3ssp.jpg)
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anyone know what pressure the oil cooler is put through. Im exploring my options with slightly larger coolers.
mine runs about 90psi.. cold.
Mine maxes out at around 115 cold. Mind you it reads 10 PSI when the bike's off ???
How big of an oil cooler are you looking at? We have ran a 16 row 115mm wide oil cooler on a 696 with no problem. That is roughly a 6"x5"x2" of actual cooler core. The standard S2R ducati oil cooler core is roughly half the effective cooling area of the cooler we tried.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 07, 2010, 07:20:28 PM
more frame welding done.
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I hate wasting good titanium
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and made some new flanges for my different style exhaust
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Those exhaust flanges are beautiful. They are so well made compared to the stockers. You could make a batch that would fit the stock headers and sell them, no worries.
Except how do you put them on an existing exhaust? You couldn't get them on.
Quote from: Howley on October 11, 2010, 04:33:34 AMExcept how do you put them on an existing exhaust? You couldn't get them on.
I take it those header pipes have a flair of some sort @ the head for that flange to push on. But with these the header pipes are seperate before the collector are they not? Take the collector off then you could slide the old flange off and the new one one?
Count me in for a set of those too. They look sweet.
Yes those are a special design that get made on to the actual tubes.
I was thinking about making a few sets that work just like the stockers, but look much better. Possibly with fins to look more old school also.
seeUNceed some frame gussets
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Hey guys I need help with someone with a dial indicator. Will someone set it up so you can measure the distance your clutch pressure plate moves? Im designing a cable operated clutch system and need to know this distance.
THANK YOU.
Send an email to Durbahn
he sells a cable clutch conversion, but he's a nice guy, maybe he'll give up some info.
Ya Ive looked at his. My design is similar to the one he uses for the Bikes with no alternator.
Can he speak english? Cause I sure cant speak German.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 12, 2010, 01:38:47 PM
Ya Ive looked at his. My design is similar to the one he uses for the Bikes with no alternator.
Can he speak english? Cause I sure cant speak German.
he or his assistant answered my email no problem in English.
I had asked about an Ergal front axle for the 696/1098 front end I have
desinged this today. Not finished. I have alot better designs but they are not possible with this old software.
Bottom of lower triple
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you doing it in Titanium? [thumbsup] ;D
that would be crazy, I couldnt even afford the tooling to do it in Ti.
Im doing the first ones out of 6061. If I like them then maybe ill replicate then in 7 series aluminum.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 14, 2010, 10:13:49 AM
that would be crazy, I couldnt even afford the tooling to do it in Ti.
Im doing the first ones out of 6061. If I like them then maybe ill replicate then in 7 series aluminum.
magnesium!
Yes, If I could find some for a good price.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 14, 2010, 10:43:10 AM
Yes, If I could find some for a good price.
Oh you mean...like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Magnesium-2-Ingots-AM50A-alloy-30-plus-total-pounds-/320603121784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa56f6878 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Magnesium-2-Ingots-AM50A-alloy-30-plus-total-pounds-/320603121784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa56f6878)
;D
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/216506425/Magnesium.html (http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/216506425/Magnesium.html)
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/327518008/AZ31B_Magnesium_Block.html (http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/327518008/AZ31B_Magnesium_Block.html)
try here
I have 4 of those ingots sitting on my bench...... Can't find anyone to machine stuff from them for me.
Quote from: TAftonomos on October 14, 2010, 12:07:53 PM
I have 4 of those ingots sitting on my bench...... Can't find anyone to machine stuff from them for me.
I remember we talked about that. Ill see if I can machine them at my teachers shop. Doubt I can at school since its a big fire hazard.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 14, 2010, 01:32:31 PMits a big fire hazard.
Is it the sort of "fire hazard" people like me would pay good money to watch? I saw someone mention that if your mag case scrapes concrete it's shower of sparks rather than what you get when steel hits concrete. I can only imagine what it would look like getting machined with the wrong tools.
Magnesium fire = bad.
The ONLY fire extinguisher that will put it out is a Class D. There aren't a lot of places that even have one.
If you put water on it, it can cause a small explosion.
When I was a grad student at Texas, there was a metal fire in the lab down the hall: potassium, lithium, sodium and some magnesium -- impressive! [evil]
I asked my teacher if I could do it at his shop if I got a class D extingushier. He said his insurance wouldnt cover his shop if he knowingly machined it. But he also said yes.
tards
magnesium fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZBXNqaMo#normal)
Quotetards
Don't worry, natural selection will take over soon...
as retarded as those guys are thats an awesome display of what happens if you throw water on a mag fire...
My only question is where is the person that is supposed to be in that wheelchair?!
Quote from: truckinduc on October 14, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
I asked my teacher if I could do it at his shop if I got a class D extingushier. He said his insurance wouldnt cover his shop if he knowingly machined it. But he also said yes.
If that's the case, you might wanna delete this post before doing it.
[laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: Rameses on October 15, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
If that's the case, you might wanna delete this post before doing it.
[laugh] [laugh]
You gotta delete your post too... [laugh]
Quote from: 671M900 on October 15, 2010, 12:37:58 AM
You gotta delete your post too... [laugh]
I thought about that while I was typing up the post.
It's gone as soon as his disappears. ;)
got a good start on the lower triple today. Wont be untill Wed untill I can work on it again.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2lagdfo.jpg)
Where are the pinch bolts going to go?
Quote from: truckinduc on October 15, 2010, 09:25:05 PM
got a good start on the lower triple today. Wont be untill Wed untill I can work on it again.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2lagdfo.jpg)
it's beautiful already in it's unfinished state. [bow_down]
Ha ha I'm at the georgia Vanderbilt game and georgia is winning 43 to 0 and I'm bored. The pinch bolts will go on the front center. You can see the bump where the allen heads will protrude.
Quote from: pompetta on October 14, 2010, 03:54:22 PM
When I was a grad student at Texas, there was a metal fire in the lab down the hall: potassium, lithium, sodium and some magnesium -- impressive! [evil]
Impressive is not the word I'd use, as that's some scary shit right there. :o
The front center where the bump is.
I have often wondered about the correct technique for doing something with pinch bolts like this.
Do you machine the ID of the triple clamp exactly the same size as the OD of the fork tube, or is there some formula used to make it a little smaller or bigger?
I ask because once material is removed to allow for the pinch, after the pinch the ID of the triple clamp is no longer round
You are correct. You machine the I'd to the fork od. Then when the clamp is torqued it will still be in its natural position, just under tension trying to compress the fork tube.
I just spent 1.5 hours reading this entire thread from page 1...
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i did that about a month ago... it was only about an hour read back then
very good stuff
Quote from: truckinduc on October 15, 2010, 09:25:05 PM
got a good start on the lower triple today. Wont be untill Wed untill I can work on it again.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2lagdfo.jpg)
Wow!!!! Impressive!!!!! Celli
finished the bottom of the lower triple
(http://i54.tinypic.com/11m49jo.jpg)
And got a good start on the top.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2d6jfw2.jpg)
here are some better photos
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what do you think?
how thin is the wall on the stem mount? is the stock that thin? or does it just look that way cause the whole thing is so beefy looking?
its thinner than I wanted. All I had was 3"x3" aluminum so I had to make due with what I had. I plan on trhese only being a mockup set untill I can make a final set out of Magnesium.
Quote from: truckinduc on October 21, 2010, 12:16:32 PM
its thinner than I wanted. All I had was 3"x3" aluminum so I had to make due with what I had. I plan on trhese only being a mockup set untill I can make a final set out of Magnesium.
if you shorten the offset would that help. plus doesn't that help turn-in
better check the strength of the mag vs the al as far as how thick you need to make your walls.
Nice work [thumbsup]
Quote from: Raux on October 21, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
if you shorten the offset would that help. plus doesn't that help turn-in
Well I want the offset around 35mm for the trail number Im shooting for. I could not get that number with this piece of stock so its somewhere between 30 and 35. I cant remember.
well its 95% done. I have to cut one more radious and the slits in it. I think it looks pretty good. Whats funny is you cant tell the weight difference in this triple and the stock one just holding them in your hands. Which is good because the top triplew will be 1/2 to 1/3 the weight of the stock one.
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Looks awesome [thumbsup]
Can't wait to see what you come up with after the triples :)
I havent pressed the stem in yet, but I had to mock it up.
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[thumbsup]
Bellissimo!! [clap]
I have decided to make a new exhaust valve cover for the rear cylinder. It will include a mount for my subframe. So my rear head will be a semi stressed member. The 2 upper subframe mounts will be the frame and the one lower mount will be the head.
I did more frame welding and discovered my swingarm pivot was bent. So I had to cut the frame mounts off and order a good pivot.
top triple in the works. Interesting note, Tornado hit my building at school while I was cutting this out this afternoon. Tore the roof all up and took alot of trees with it.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/nn4qxe.jpg)
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Quote from: truckinduc on October 26, 2010, 08:39:11 PM
Interesting note, Tornado hit my building at school while I was cutting this out this afternoon. Tore the roof all up and took alot of trees with it.
Bah. Ignore mother nature, just finish the build! ;D
(seriously, glad you're not in Oz right now)
Wow.
Glad you're alright man.
Pretty ballsy stepping out there to take that pic.
(And the top triple looks awesome!)
Quote from: truckinduc on October 26, 2010, 08:39:11 PM
top triple in the works. Interesting note, Tornado hit my building at school while I was cutting this out this afternoon. Tore the roof all up and took alot of trees with it.
do you live in the midwest? we have horrible wind/severe tornado warning earlier today.
Glad your OK! Keep the pretty parts coming [thumbsup]
Quote from: Düb Lüv on October 26, 2010, 10:16:55 PMdo you live in the midwest? we have horrible wind/severe tornado warning earlier today.
The media hype was out of this world for that front that came thru today. Ended up with a bit of windy rain that lasted all of 15 minutes most places. It
mostly blew itself out by the time it got to us in Detroit. I think central MI got a bit of twisty clouds and a few touchdowns across the state...
Quote from: Rameses on October 26, 2010, 09:19:10 PM
Wow.
Glad you're alright man.
Pretty ballsy stepping out there to take that pic.
(And the top triple looks awesome!)
+1
[thumbsup]
wow...
and the storm is impressive as well!! :)
That top triple really looks sweet. Are you going to hollow out the four "radial" holes on the bottom triple the same as the top?
thanks everyone. I live right outside of chattanooga TN. I did not take that picture. We got all the media hype too but I did not believe it, we very rarely get tornados.
Im sitting at the milling machine and all of a sudden it gets very dark and the building starts to rumble, I look outside and see about 4 fairly large trees take off. This lasts about 2 minutes. When everything calmed down we thought it was just a microburst and we went outside. Stupid I know.
Then we turned and saw the funnel cloud. I tried to take a picture of it with my phone but it was too dark. It was confirmed it hit the Chickamauga Dam, which is less than a quarter mile from where I was. Tore it up pretty good.
During all this mr friends R6 was still standing up. I couldnt believe it so I pushed it inside for his as all this happened during our dinner break and he was out to dinner.
I love storms.
Quote from: Mojo S2R on October 27, 2010, 05:15:17 AM
That top triple really looks sweet. Are you going to hollow out the four "radial" holes on the bottom triple the same as the top?
Yep its going to match the bottom one.
I think its going to ba a sexy front end.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2pshug6.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/24b4znt.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/j6in7r.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/f78ty.jpg)
Those are beautiful. [thumbsup]
Gorgeous!!! [drool]
Truckin', did you use the OE steer tube on the triples or did you machine a new one?
I used the OE one but turned it down slightly in the center to loose some weight.
took some pics on the way home tonight.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/o7659c.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/11vgz0o.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on October 27, 2010, 09:29:50 PM
took some pics on the way home tonight.
Cool pics! Is that ambient light or photoshop?
errr,just curious about those clamps,is it strong enough in case of emergency?
but,definitely a beauty indeed..
Quote from: DucHead on October 28, 2010, 05:11:58 AM
Cool pics! Is that ambient light or photoshop?
Ambient light. It was super foggy out and I used a long exposure.
Quote from: one on October 28, 2010, 07:48:36 AM
errr,just curious about those clamps,is it strong enough in case of emergency?
but,definitely a beauty indeed..
I hope so. They are just a prototype really.
Quote from: one on October 28, 2010, 07:48:36 AM
errr,just curious about those clamps,is it strong enough in case of emergency?
but,definitely a beauty indeed..
I was curious about the strength of the clamps as well, the slits look pretty small so I don't imagine they have much room to clamp incredibly tight. How does the size of the cut compare to other triples (stock, aftermarket?).
The slit is smaller, but its on purpose. The bore of the clamps is the same as the fork diameter. With the clamps fully tightened there is still a gap, so the forks do get full clamping pressure.
You going to get them hard ano'ed? The ano on one of the fork legs looks a bit worn too. Great job, anxious to see the rest of the story.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on October 29, 2010, 04:00:48 PM
You going to get them hard ano'ed? The ano on one of the fork legs looks a bit worn too. Great job, anxious to see the rest of the story.
Nope, because that would require money. Money that I do not have.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/241jip5.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/1lzde.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/vcxemb.jpg)
Very niiice, really dig the way you set up the clamp screws... looks way lighter than anything OE.
You build me a set of those for my SBK w/27mm offset...you will have some money :)
Nice work
Quote from: truckinduc on October 31, 2010, 04:05:11 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/241jip5.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/1lzde.jpg)
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these are just mock ups right? your going to make another set to actually go on the bike?
Quote from: truckinduc on October 31, 2010, 04:05:01 PM
Nope, because that would require money. Money that I do not have.
Figure out if you can sell sets of those triples for a profit. It could be a side business for you to help you through school.
Really beautiful job, wow!! [thumbsup]
[drool] [thumbsup] [clap]
[bacon]
Those look sweet. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but won't those bottom triples collect water and dirt in those holes. Or am I looking at the bottom of the lower triple?
Those don't look safe to me....better send them here for proper disposition, lest they fall into the wrong hands and someone gets hurt [drink]
What did you do for the final finish step? is that bead blasted?
Quote from: Mojo S2R on October 31, 2010, 09:17:51 PM
Those look sweet. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but won't those bottom triples collect water and dirt in those holes. Or am I looking at the bottom of the lower triple?
Yes they will. That is one disadvantage to this design. They will however get little drain holes.
Quote from: dbran1949 on November 01, 2010, 05:34:23 PM
What did you do for the final finish step? is that bead blasted?
Yep with glass bead. Not sure what the final finish will be, something cheap, probably paint.
Turned my eccentric clamps and welded them up.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/25rng1s.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/10ypgex.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on November 01, 2010, 10:33:33 PM
Turned my eccentric clamps and welded them up.
Have you not cut the clamps yet or is there something I'm missing in the pics?
Quote from: truckinduc on November 01, 2010, 10:33:01 PM
Yep with glass bead. Not sure what the final finish will be, something cheap, probably paint.
low gloss clear just to inhibit oxidation it would be a shame to cover those
Quote from: Rameses on November 02, 2010, 12:26:12 AM
Have you not cut the clamps yet or is there something I'm missing in the pics?
No your not missing anything. Ill cut them today.
Im thinking about some flat clear spray paint I have. I plan on engraving something on the lower triple If I can get it in a DXF file.
Quote from: truckinduc on November 02, 2010, 08:50:46 AM
No your not missing anything. Ill cut them today.
Im thinking about some flat clear spray paint I have. I plan on engraving something on the lower triple If I can get it in a DXF file.
Good luck with adhesion/corrosion resistance on un-etched aluminum.
Eccentric swingarm jig blanks
(http://i54.tinypic.com/33dkt1v.jpg)
And valve cover begenning. Its now structrual.
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So I was having trouble with the frame - engine alignment for the swingarm pivot. All seemed well for a while then the pivot just froze in place. I tried heating and bending but I never could get it quite right. So In fristration I just cut the mounts off. The I discover the pivot bolt is bent. No wonder....
But Its a good thing I cut them off because I can start fresh. Then I thought to myself, Hmm I should make the swingarm pivot adjustable, just like the SBK models, only better. I was out somewhere when this occured to me so I sketched it on a shop towel.
Then I made them.
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I have never seen this on a modern ducati.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/v30nlk.jpg)
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I still have to make the inner bearing races and press them on to the aluminum pieces. Anyone know a good place to buy bearings? Everywhere local wants an arm and a leg.
I need, 1.25" ID x 1.5" OD x .75" width needle bearings. 3 of them
1.25" ID x 1.5" OD x 1" One of these
newbie question m8
wtf is that? :)
Awesome fab work in this project, looks like your skills have come a long way [thumbsup]
One suggestion for the swingarm pivots would be notches in the frame sleeve and then one in the inner bushing to help with alignment from side to side. Keep it up.
Everyone in this thread stand up and salute this man. On my way to ring shop for my girl and I came across this tread. Put it this way, you prolly just put an end to this union before it even started with this thread. I am 30 and always wanted to do stuff like this but I traveled and moved around too much to have a place to work from. Love your work and how everyone in here supports. effin good stuff. Best tread i ever seen.
Quote from: dvyce on November 05, 2010, 08:42:53 AM
... you prolly just put an end to this union before it even started with this thread. ...
Story? start your own thread, would love to read that.
I've seen the adjustable setup on a few Ducati racebikes previously -- not for the street itself.
I've offset bore the cases and then spacer / eccentric to get my DesmoDevil's lower than you can with the factory swingarm pivot point location. I had to do to get chain travel on the underside of the swingarm! But if you measure out the sprocket location, swingarm pivot itself and the rear hub location in terms of geometry -- it's almost factory setup in regard to torque application via centerline measurement.
One thing to be aware of is that changing the swingarm pivot point can do some interesting things ala geometry / torque application to the rear hub due to the chain. Also your shock geometry can change also when moving things around quite a bit. You are generally fairly safe if you move the swingarm pivot down when you move the rear hub down (ie: raise the ride height). Conversely the same for moving pivot up and rear hub higher (like my DesmoDevils)
I'd avoid extreme setups ala raised swingarm pivot and moving hub down (more ride height) -- things might get interesting when you least expect it.
Definitely do reading on rear suspension squat / anti-squat, etc -- it isn't difficult to change things that aren't great for a street ridden motorcycle.
Also understand that rear suspension setup / geometry affects front suspension as well.
mo shit
(http://i56.tinypic.com/23mn5zr.jpg)
Quote from: gatorgrizz27 on November 05, 2010, 08:26:22 AM
Awesome fab work in this project, looks like your skills have come a long way [thumbsup]
One suggestion for the swingarm pivots would be notches in the frame sleeve and then one in the inner bushing to help with alignment from side to side. Keep it up.
Thank you. and on the note of alignment, the clamps are not done. they get one more special feature to index them evenly - lock them in place.
Quote from: dvyce on November 05, 2010, 08:42:53 AM
Everyone in this thread stand up and salute this man. On my way to ring shop for my girl and I came across this tread. Put it this way, you prolly just put an end to this union before it even started with this thread. I am 30 and always wanted to do stuff like this but I traveled and moved around too much to have a place to work from. Love your work and how everyone in here supports. effin good stuff. Best tread i ever seen.
Thank you and your welcome I guess. Dont let me break anything good up. But if its bad Ill take full credit. Speaking of which Im about to attempt to make my girl a Titanium ring for a christmas present. I wonder if she is suspicious when I mike'd her ring she normally wears.
Quote from: MotoCreations on November 05, 2010, 01:28:40 PM
I've seen the adjustable setup on a few Ducati racebikes previously -- not for the street itself.
I've offset bore the cases and then spacer / eccentric to get my DesmoDevil's lower than you can with the factory swingarm pivot point location. I had to do to get chain travel on the underside of the swingarm! But if you measure out the sprocket location, swingarm pivot itself and the rear hub location in terms of geometry -- it's almost factory setup in regard to torque application via centerline measurement.
One thing to be aware of is that changing the swingarm pivot point can do some interesting things ala geometry / torque application to the rear hub due to the chain. Also your shock geometry can change also when moving things around quite a bit. You are generally fairly safe if you move the swingarm pivot down when you move the rear hub down (ie: raise the ride height). Conversely the same for moving pivot up and rear hub higher (like my DesmoDevils)
I'd avoid extreme setups ala raised swingarm pivot and moving hub down (more ride height) -- things might get interesting when you least expect it.
Definitely do reading on rear suspension squat / anti-squat, etc -- it isn't difficult to change things that aren't great for a street ridden motorcycle.
Also understand that rear suspension setup / geometry affects front suspension as well.
yes. I have been doing alot of research and design work to get this bike how I want it. When I de radke the forks there is a reason I modified the frame to get the rake number I wanted, instead of rotating the entire frame - engine forward. The engine is still relitavly close to the stock orientation. Right now I have a base 12.5 swingarm angle with a little adjustability.
Im still torn between swingarm length and wheelbase. thus why I have not actually built the swingarm yet.
Lookn' good Trucker! [thumbsup] [drink]
I'm depressed.
LA
Quote from: truckinduc on November 04, 2010, 10:29:11 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/rk7l0i.jpg)
Why does it look like the frame doesn't line up with the adjuster clamps?
Eccentrics too long?
Quote from: ahks on November 05, 2010, 07:22:17 AMnewbie question m8
wtf is that? :)
eccentric adjuster for the swing arm angle... so you can get the geometry perfect for your use... you continue to amaze me with your ingenuity.
they dont align because this was the old design.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/30j6vrd.jpg)
Quote from: truckinduc on November 07, 2010, 09:53:01 AM
they dont align because this was the old design.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/30j6vrd.jpg)
Since you're getting rid of that, you have to promise me that you'll duplicate the quality of the finish on that weld in at least one other place on the finished product.
[beer]
maybe
Quote from: truckinduc on November 07, 2010, 11:28:34 AMmaybe
this guy says "maybe" as if his drive for clean projects would allow him not to lol
nooooo!
i got to the most recent post hahaha >:( ;D
maaate! seriously, you have some bloody decent talent. if you can and are interested, maybe look at a few little side projects like triples and stuff, people on here really are interested in them and you will make money. money for parts, parts for monster ;D
top effort mate, keep it up ;)
Quote from: truckinduc on November 07, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
maybe
Tucker! I have a small (maybe not too small) request. I have a 696 and as we all know, it uses a wet clutch system. I am tinkering with the idea of a clear cover so i can see the splash. perhaps a riveted or seal with small bolts. Some kind on metal on the outer lip and a bored hole in the middle (perhaps 5" radius) where a clear cover would go held by rivets or a washer-like seal on the out lip of the clear cut-out material. Obviously this clear plastic would be slightly smaller than 5" radius to allow some kind of washer application to prevent a leak. Am i making any sense and if so, is this possible?
(not considering a dry conversion cuz i rather not have to deal with the sound it makes) Thanks m8
Yep, possible.
For KTM at least. . .
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa101/cjracerktm/CJ%20DESIGNS%20clutch%20cover/DSC01755.jpg)
Quote from: dvyce on November 08, 2010, 07:39:06 AM
Tucker! I have a small (maybe not too small) request. I have a 696 and as we all know, it uses a wet clutch system. I am tinkering with the idea of a clear cover so i can see the splash. perhaps a riveted or seal with small bolts. Some kind on metal on the outer lip and a bored hole in the middle (perhaps 5" radius) where a clear cover would go held by rivets or a washer-like seal on the out lip of the clear cut-out material. Obviously this clear plastic would be slightly smaller than 5" radius to allow some kind of washer application to prevent a leak. Am i making any sense and if so, is this possible?
(not considering a dry conversion cuz i rather not have to deal with the sound it makes) Thanks m8
right now on ebay there is a kit doing exactly what you are asking for
Quote from: Raux on November 08, 2010, 09:41:11 AM
right now on ebay there is a kit are 30 kits doing exactly what you are asking for
Quote from: Raux on November 08, 2010, 09:41:11 AM
right now on ebay there is a kit doing exactly what you are asking for
I searched the web and ebay and found nothing. I even searched the UK hosted site. Perhaps the listing has ended
Quote from: dvyce on November 08, 2010, 12:01:03 PM
I searched the web and ebay and found nothing. I even searched the UK hosted site. Perhaps the listing has ended
same with me but i think we are just searching for the wrong thing... can some one throw up a link to the ebay listing please
here are some photos and a how too.
http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30048&page=5 (http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30048&page=5)
found it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140461402485 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140461402485)
Quote from: Raux on November 08, 2010, 12:53:08 PM
found it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140461402485 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140461402485)
Thnx a ton, its ended but i sent a pm so lets see what i get back from him. I know its mainly a DIY however i do not have all the tools. remember i am in Ghana and wont have access to all the hardware u chaps easily wld.
Engraved my lower triple, thanks so much bergdoerfer.
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and started on some rear suspension pieces.
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LOVE the engraving!! [thumbsup]
+1 turned out pretty cool, looks like an old school factory tool stamp
Ya the test piece on a flat face was better, but I went ahead and decided to try it in the curved surface.
I like the effect it has on the curved surface [thumbsup]
anyone know what the stock frame weighs on a 95 era bike. Whatever that frame design is called. 851 style maybe.
What's going on with the eccentric engine mounts. I want to see how those end up. May be a stupid question but you are going to wash that engine before you get everything put back together yes? What's the status of the swingarm as well. Your work is really impressive dude keep it up(that means get back to work ;D)
The eccentrics move the swingarm pivot. The engine is hard mounted to the frame, no movement there.
The engine will get dis assembeled, casting seams smoothed out, soda blasted and painted.
The swingarm geometry is being finalized, and im currently building the linkage for it. Thats what im doing at school today.
Im going as fast as I can.
GO FASTER DAMN YOU!!!
Quote from: Howley on November 11, 2010, 02:29:24 PM
GO FASTER DAMN YOU!!!
[laugh]
We're all building vicariously!!!
Inner bearing races for the swingarm
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and made new wheel bearing spacers since the bearing size I need does not exist.
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started on my forks tonight
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and finished my wheel spacers-adaptors so I can start the caliper mount.
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Man oh man. I wish I had half the ability in your little finger and all the tools at your avail. [thumbsup]
If something you want or need is not available you make it. That's just awesome. Keep it up. [beer]
What was the type of file format you used to have the winged logo done I thought I saw it posted but I cannot find it now. And does the format work on most cnc machines? This is just an awesome build by the way.
Quote from: truckinduc on November 09, 2010, 08:34:35 PM
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Confused... it that the eagle or chicken when it faces left?
Quote from: Raux on November 13, 2010, 03:19:00 AM
Confused... it that the eagle or chicken when it faces left?
[laugh]
Beautiful piece, by the way.. [drool]
[bacon]
I love the look of freshly milled aluminum
I love the chicken. It would have been cooler the other way around though.
what are you guys talking about?
started on my swingarm jig
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and the swingarm linkage mount
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Awesome, Brotha! Keep it up.
What's the piece between the swingarm linkage mounts?
Quote from: truckinduc on November 13, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
...
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...
The middle piece is what the linkage mounts too. The three pieces will be welded together. See the two indents in the middle piece? Thats where the linkage goes.
I did more work on it tonight, just no pics.
Also worked on my caliper mount more. Design is almost complete, should be making chips tomorrow.
Started on my caliper adaptor yesterday. Should finish it today.
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Trucker, this is an amazing build, keep up the good work.
Also, is that an FG Gubellini shock your using?
the rear shock is a FOX twin clicker
Woot PICTURES
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and mounted
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Phenomenal [bow_down]
Quote from: dbran1949 on November 17, 2010, 11:24:38 PM
Phenomenal [bow_down]
+10
6 [drool] [clap] [beer] [moto]
The milling on the fork lowers really adds to the look, great job!!
Can't wait to see more.
[thumbsup] [bacon]
I love the frankenstein nature of this build
Thanks guys. Hopefully Ill be cutting out the other half of my valve cover today.
anyone else think the "buell" needs to be grinded off ? lol
very very nice work.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/15fouua.jpg)
You have read my mind. If I had more machine time I would make an 8 piston monoblock caliper thats stiffer and lighter. Then I would make my own fork lowers to mount the caliper so there was no adaptor piece. THERE IS ALWAYS THE FUTURE.
I plan on making my own rear caliper though.....
Sheer skill. [clap]
That wheels/brake combo will be so much lighter than the heavy stock Brembo wheels/brakes. On top of everything else, that's an excellent upgrade.
Structrual valve cover 95% done
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Quote from: koko64 on November 18, 2010, 02:18:09 PM
Sheer skill. [clap]
That wheels/brake combo will be so much lighter than the heavy stock Brembo wheels/brakes. On top of everything else, that's an excellent upgrade.
Hopefully later on AKA when money permits Ill upgrade the front wheel to the Magnesium version and get a light weight 999 rear wheel.
looks kinda funny. Damn, i should have milled fins into it to help dissipate heat.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/sc5apw.jpg)
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Quote from: truckinduc on November 18, 2010, 10:18:45 PM
looks kinda funny. Damn, i should have milled fins into it to help dissipate heat.
I think it looks awesome. And the stock ones don't bother with fins... why should you?
Quote from: truckinduc on November 18, 2010, 10:18:45 PM
looks kinda funny. Damn, i should have milled fins into it to help dissipate heat.
yup..only if you draw some eye and a smiley... ;D
is it too late to redo it???
these are nice but i think some fins would help it all flow together better... but then what do i know ;D
Nice Work. [thumbsup]
I'm waiting to see what the front sprocket cover will look like. ;D
Quote from: truckinduc on November 18, 2010, 10:18:45 PM
looks kinda funny. Damn, i should have milled fins into it to help dissipate heat.
The heat transfer through the aluminum to whatever you are going to bolt it to will dissipate more heat than fins could. Of course aesthetics are a different story
I 100% agree. but the subframe as a heat sink AND fins would be the ultimate. I just smoothed out all of the harsh angles and it looks alot better in my opinion. Almost like it belongs there.
much better
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are those smaller bolts going to hold when you're hanging off the seat midcorner? Seems that's a lot of shear they weren't meant for.
Those are undersize and just to see what the cover will look like. the cover is threaded at the moment for jig mounting purposes. When I finish the cover today it will be drilled out to proper size so it can be mounted. The subframe bolts are M8 x 1.25. Should be plenty for a monoposto.
Quote from: truckinduc on November 19, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
Those are undersize and just to see what the cover will look like. the cover is threaded at the moment for jig mounting purposes. When I finish the cover today it will be drilled out to proper size so it can be mounted. The subframe bolts are M8 x 1.25. Should be plenty for a monoposto.
well with your attention to detail, I figured you had thought about it, just wanted to hear it ;)
This is the coolest freaking build [thumbsup]
so truck, when do you think you will be done with this bad boy... and by done i mean ridable?
DONE
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Quote from: hadesducati848 on November 19, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
so truck, when do you think you will be done with this bad boy... and by done i mean ridable?
Hopefully by july 1st. But thats alot of work to get done by then. And it will probably never be "DONE" but you know.
Ill be building a monoque carbon fiber tank-seat-tail. Real gastank will be aluminum and underneith. Fake tank will serve as an airbox. All that and about a month straight of Ti welding.
sounds awesome, i cant wait to see the out come
That thing needs a/some logo/s on it.... [thumbsup]
Im going to keep it clean and simple looking. the trellis swingarm and subframe will be busy enough.
Quote from: truckinduc on November 19, 2010, 11:47:41 AM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/sbow75.jpg)
Don't mean to bust your chops, but you do know those are the weak chrome plated cylinder head studs on that motor, right?
You're seriously going to hang your butt off of 1 M8 and what I assume to be the stock cast oil cooler mount on the vertical intake?
No disrespect, just curious. You're obviously very talented mate...
The upper mounts for the subframe will be the actual frame. The oil cooler mount is just there for other reasons.
Does ARP make head studs for the 900? Id like to do those and the 944 hi comps.
Nichols studs are the bomb...
Ill have to save up for those.
Do you have a concept of what you want the bike to look like as of now? I know there have been variations and whatnot from the initial design (or is it a more as you go ever evolving design?)
Quote from: OT on November 19, 2010, 05:35:58 PMThat thing needs some legos on it.... [thumbsup]
LOL fixed
no real progress as im sick and I feel like I have been drugged. I need to stop letting my girlfriend make my drinks.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/wt8tvp.jpg)
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What do you think of my swingarm?
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Quote from: flanman on November 20, 2010, 08:00:29 AM
Do you have a concept of what you want the bike to look like as of now? I know there have been variations and whatnot from the initial design (or is it a more as you go ever evolving design?)
I do have an image in my mind. I need to sit down and get it on paper soon.
it ( the valve cover) looks like an awesome robot cow
more welding on the swinger jig done.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2ce3j2u.jpg)
started sketching up what it may look like.
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Love your imagination followed by skill. The front end looks SICK! The wheel combo works awesome. And the rough sketch...i can't wait.
Kick ass man!
That's going to be a SWEEEEET toy
Working on my chain alignment. Moved the sprocket toward the center by .350" Had to shorten and rethread the studs too. should still have room for a 190 rear and a 520 chain.
Anyone prefer a certain kink of 520 sprocket for the 999 wheel?
(http://i54.tinypic.com/14kf7gi.jpg)
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left is what I did to the original studs on the right
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then shortened them
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What an upgrade we now get a backdrop ;D it looks great [thumbsup]
Hey Trucker, what tank do you plan on using? Or are you creating your own?
Quote from: forFREEDOM on November 24, 2010, 05:37:37 PM
Hey Trucker, what tank do you plan on using? Or are you creating your own?
Quote from: truckinduc on November 19, 2010, 03:54:43 PM
Ill be building a monoque carbon fiber tank-seat-tail. Real gastank will be aluminum and underneith. Fake tank will serve as an airbox.
;)
Duh! Thanks brotha. Sometimes when I'm working, I skip to the pix for a quick drool.
Quote from: forFREEDOM on November 24, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
Duh! Thanks brotha. Sometimes when I'm working, I skip to the pix for a quick drool.
[thumbsup]
Yep. Im actually thinking of building 2 fuel tanks. One infront of the carbs in the frame with the filler neck replacing the stock ignition placement, like a new buell, and the other being a chin fairing looking tank. I have to run a fuell pump anyway. Might as well get that weight lower and farther forward. Ill make a CF or some other guard to protect it from rocks and other debris. Tank will probably be from .050" aluminum.
darkened it up a bit. Also got some anti slosh tank foam.
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I need a fix, Truckinduc you havent posted for four days, whats going on?
I have Been sick as a dog. I have made little progress, Ill post an update for you guys tonight.
Quote from: The Don on November 30, 2010, 12:58:11 PM
I need a fix, Truckinduc you havent posted for four days, whats going on?
don't you feel like a schmuck now ;)
By the way Trucker how's your knee? From the last photo you posted, looked like some massive inflammation going on. You're going to be able to ride this bike when finished, right?
Quote from: bergdoerfer on November 30, 2010, 02:22:05 PM
By the way Trucker how's your knee? From the last photo you posted, looked like some massive inflammation going on. You're going to be able to ride this bike when finished, right?
Wasnt therea vid a few pages back with him riding it? Or was that someone else?
Its there. I had a second reconstruction surgery. I only get around 95 degrees of movement out of it right now. The quad muscle is still about 80% gone and I have no strength to lift any more weight than my leg itself, but I can work a gear shifter.
To be honest I need a partial knee replacement. New patella and tendons. Patella is still in 2 seperate pieces joined by cadiver ligaments.
Im going to build some adjustable rearsets that Hopefully I can set low enough to where I can ride. I may have to compramise on cornering clearance slightly untill I regain more movement. But thats good because it will keep my cornering speeds down for a while.
Havent ridden this bike since the day of the accident in June of 08. I built a handicap friendly bike that i ride with forward controls.
made this thing today, its a pain in the ass. The other side is worse. Once they are both done ill weld it up.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/ams8pe.jpg)
Mock up sprocket
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wow... that injury still sounds pretty bad! not good mate...
Quote from: Raux on November 30, 2010, 01:38:41 PM
don't you feel like a schmuck now ;)
your right [bang]
Hope you feel better soon Truckinduc
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started on a new upper tripple for a bike my father and I are building.
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and started a new gastank, maybe for a 160.
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Do Vols take an early holiday break??
Get back to work man, we're all jonesin' for a fix!
;)
Once again a very nice triple clamp. I think you got a successful career ahead! God bless the child that's got his own.
how 'bout a bump?! Merry Christmas!
Ping.
Hope everythings okay Truckers gone MIA
He probably has a new girlfriend to take up his time. [evil]
it shows he was on yesterday so im guessing he is ok...
probably working on something epic im sure! [thumbsup]
Trucker sent me a message on Thursday saying that he's been working 15 hour days and doesn't have a lot of time on his hands.
Sorry everyone I have not been working on anything awesome. Trust me I wish I was.
As for an update all that has changed is umm, well nothing.
I did get a Ti zx10r donor exhaust to be cut up.
Also got my big brothers english wheel,
and a 32 ft aluminum boat,
And im working on an individual carb setup on my suzuki samurai.
Hopefully I will have something worth posting in the near future.
Quote from: truckinduc on January 18, 2011, 01:56:02 PM
Sorry everyone I have not been working on anything awesome. Trust me I wish I was.
As for an update all that has changed is umm, well nothing.
I did get a Ti zx10r donor exhaust to be cut up.
Also got my big brothers english wheel,
and a 32 ft aluminum boat,
And im working on an individual carb setup on my suzuki samurai.
Hopefully I will have something worth posting in the near future.
Let me be among the first to welcome you back!
And I'd like to be the second. I've really enjoyed this thread.
I think some of us where worried something might have happened to you. Glad to hear all is well! [thumbsup]
Thank you everyone.
Finally got to do something bike related.
Welded up some headlight brackets for my dad, that is NOT the headlight that is going on it.
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And finished my cheese grater clutch basket.
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and tank foam.
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In other news I'm thinking about building a few, maybe 10, trellis swingarms for 696 bikes. They will bolt up to a stock bike and use all stock parts - hardware.
I just need to see if there would be enough intrest.
You know there are a lot more of the previous generation Monsters. It might be easier to find buyers for a trellis swingarm if you make it for them. At least that is what I'm hoping for.
Yep. I have been thinking about that. Earlier monsters were the plan at first. The 696 would be the most simple because the direct shock.
For the hoop style I will most likely shorten a stock hoop that will go with the swingarm. The pushrod style should not be a problem.
I just need a donor swingarm of each style to build a jig for each one off of.
Quote from: Travman on January 21, 2011, 07:08:20 PM
You know there are a lot more of the previous generation Monsters. It might be easier to find buyers for a trellis swingarm if you make it for them. At least that is what I'm hoping for.
Me too
Don
Quote from: truckinduc on January 21, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
Yep. I have been thinking about that. Earlier monsters were the plan at first. The 696 would be the most simple because the direct shock.
For the hoop style I will most likely shorten a stock hoop that will go with the swingarm. The pushrod style should not be a problem.
I just need a donor swingarm of each style to build a jig for each one off of.
Do you think they would be liter than the original arms?
The plan would be to have them lighter and stiffer than the stockers. Plus you know, the looks.
Yeah right. Like we care about how it "looks".
Quote from: truckinduc on January 21, 2011, 06:15:46 PM
In other news I'm thinking about building a few, maybe 10, trellis swingarms for 696 bikes. They will bolt up to a stock bike and use all stock parts - hardware.
I just need to see if there would be enough intrest.
umm, yes. duh!
696 is the way to go, trust me. lol
here, use this guy
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=180612384084)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Monster-09-696-Swingarm-Swing-Arm-Ducati-10-08-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a0d564554QQitemZ180612384084QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_10723wt_1495 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Monster-09-696-Swingarm-Swing-Arm-Ducati-10-08-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a0d564554QQitemZ180612384084QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_10723wt_1495)
TruckinDuc, have you seen the Moto Corse swingarm? What do you think?
http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm (http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm)
Quote from: Travman on January 22, 2011, 01:55:13 PM
TruckinDuc, have you seen the Moto Corse swingarm? What do you think?
http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htmhttp://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm (http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htmhttp://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm)
those can't be lighter than the stock ones. stronger sure, but lighter...
Quote from: Travman on January 22, 2011, 01:55:13 PM
TruckinDuc, have you seen the Moto Corse swingarm? What do you think?
http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htmhttp://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm (http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htmhttp://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm)
bad link?
he posted the link twice
That's a Cro-Mo swingarm, probably a boat anchor. And it's NCR expensive. For $2560 it had better be made out of Ti and much lighter than the stock piece otherwise pointless waste of money. [thumbsdown]
Why not eBay for a used S2R swingarm? It's a trellis and damn good looking. ~$300. Easier wheel/sprocket removal and no chain alignment required. Beats the hell out of that stupid heavy overpriced Cro-Mo piece.
Otherwise Truckin should fab one from Ti. :D
The machine that you're dad is building is intriguing - what is it, more info please.
BTW who is Mr Truckin Senior & where can we see more of his work...
Sorry for the bad link above, fixed. I figured he should see it just so he knows what has been done previously. Hopefully he can do it better (cheaper, lighter, better looking even?).
http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm (http://www.emotouk.com/ducati/motocorse/swingarm.htm)
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm21/JonTravisKing/Misc/BarrySheene.jpg?t=1264818143)
Why not eBay for a used S2R swingarm? It's a trellis and damn good looking. ~$300. Easier wheel/sprocket removal and no chain alignment required. Beats the hell out of that stupid heavy overpriced Cro-Mo piece.
Otherwise Truckin should fab one from Ti. :D
[/quote]I'm one of those freaks that prefers the DSS.
I always wanted to fit the swing arm off a Aprilia RS250 to my Monster, but lack of skill and money stopped me.
I always really (really really really) liked the Bimota trellis swingarm with the machined adjuster plates.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_0mzZVT8Q0l4/SX1B6DDwOTI/AAAAAAAABpg/cFbBRd-JjsA/Bimota%20DB5%202.jpg)
The Bimota swingarm looks too busy.
Quote from: Travman on January 23, 2011, 06:01:13 AM
The Bimota swingarm looks too busy.
yeah but more closely matches the style of the new Monster-- half trellis, half cast/machined
^^^ Good point.
As far as making custom swingarms go, I would build first for the new bikes (696/1100) and then the '02-'08 Monsters and I'd build for the 'hoop' style on order only.
All very valid points. I have been thinking about this for a while, almost a year now.
Tubing will be thinwall 4130. I still have not decided if I will use a larger diameter main tube to build off of, or to use 1" od and 7/8" od to match the existing frames. I am leaning toward using the same size tubing.
Newer bikes obviously have slightly larger tube diameters, and I plan on matching them also.
In my opinion the appeal of a DSS is the fact that by design it will almost always be a lighter and stiffer unit than a single sided setup.
Right now I have no intention of fabricating single sided trellis swingarms, but someone may open my eyes one day.
seeing that most swingarms are above a grand.. is there really a market?
For the 696 owners, most are budget minded (well except me)
1100 and 796 owners would need to buy more than just the swingarm so costs go up as well
you know i had long though about a new swingarm, but to me, the tie (look only-I know) to the D16 is kinda cool.
A trellis only one, would almost look out of place, but the bimota style wouldn't be bad.
Quote from: Raux on January 23, 2011, 10:26:04 AM
seeing that most swingarms are above a grand.. is there really a market?
For the 696 owners, most are budget minded (well except me)
+1
I am going to try to keep them as low as possible on price. I may be able to keep them cheaper If I have maybe ten people guaranteed to buy one. A deposit would ensure the guarantee to follow through. Then I could build them all at once which would be much easier.
The trellis look wouldn't be for everyone, but that is fine. I do not look to be building tons of these things anyway. I just want people to have the option of a better built and priced trellis swingarm from what there is already available.
Truck, I really like that other bike that you made and are riding around, can you give any details on it?
What was it originally, and what did you do to it? Thanks
hey truck,
why don't you start another thread with some sketches for the swingarms?
that way this thread jack stops.
You can't jack your own thread.
Quote from: Howley on January 24, 2011, 03:15:58 AM
You can't jack your own thread.
i beg to differ. this thread was officially jacked....
Well the very first thing I am trying to figure out is the legal mumbo jumbo.
Anyone have any ideas about the legal stuff?
This is what it started as peacemaker.
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Quote from: truckinduc on January 24, 2011, 07:55:39 PM
Anyone have any ideas about the legal stuff?
This is what it started as peacemaker.
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Dude, if you ever are going to sell this bike, I'd be interested. It's just so wrong. It's right.
Am I allowed to ask what megaphone that is/where you got it?
And what sort of specific legal stuff are you talking about? I'm sure there's more than enough legal expertise floating around this board, just a matter of knowing what questions you need answered.
love it! [thumbsup]
Loving the "rear" brake! Not that we have much of one on our Monsters, but how well does it work?
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are those yamaha wheels? look really similar to the xj600 i have
Quote from: A.duc.H.duc. on January 24, 2011, 09:31:36 PM
Dude, if you ever are going to sell this bike, I'd be interested. It's just so wrong. It's right.
If you like that bike, you should check out the dirtbag challenge [laugh]
Dirtbag Challenge 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzJTlP08hBA#normal)
Quote from: yotogi on January 25, 2011, 08:02:13 AM
Loving the "rear" brake! Not that we have much of one on our Monsters, but how well does it work?
With the seat that low and rear slung, you'd be surprised how much more effective the rear brake is. The front is still the primary stopping force, but I bet it's a little more powerful on trucks bike. My mom's Harley is the same way.
Buckethead I built the megaphone from scratch. The rear break is very powerful as long as there is no oil on the rotor. It locks up the rear wheel no problem. Front wheel is some sort of gsxr, rear is from my m900 monster.
I didn't really build this bike for the look. I built it to be fast through the tight mountain roads where you do not see triple digits. Forward controld for my messed up un bendable knee.
A little jack is ok since there is not much ducati progress as of late.
Some Muff
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Wow.
Checking this thread for updates just became part of my daily routine. Hell, it might be my new homepage.
I'm really interested to see how you make out with the swingarm - I'm planning to have a similar one built using a unit pro-link setup for my old CB550. I was very glad to find this thread and see that I'm not the only one thinking along those lines.
Bump...
Quote from: Syscrush on March 01, 2011, 01:28:32 PM
Bump...
lol yeah... I forgot about this for a few days. All these projects slow down in the winter. Lets hope spring is comin early to him :)
Bumpity Bump
wots doin??
this has been a long time quiet now !?!?
Most of the threads that start out great end this way. :(
Yeah, but this thread has had a few slow spots. I'm optimistic Truck will pick back up again. (Heres hoping its not another knee injury)
Quote from: DucatiBastard on May 11, 2011, 07:35:07 PM
Yeah, but this thread has had a few slow spots. I'm optimistic Truck will pick back up again. (Heres hoping its not another knee injury)
I'm guessing he has a new gf. Also, geniuses always work in cosmic cycles, not according to a routine and regular schedule. Hoping to see him back here soon.
Bob
Quote from: Langanobob on May 12, 2011, 09:40:56 AMI'm guessing he has a new gf. Also, geniuses always work in cosmic cycles, not according to a routine and regular schedule.
so it's either a girl or solar flares stopping his work? I can buy both explanations oddly enough...
Quote from: ahks on May 12, 2011, 03:50:02 PM
so it's either a girl or solar flares stopping his work? I can buy both explanations oddly enough...
girls are the only acceptable explanations that i'll accept... hot girls... 3 of them... at the same time... with pics to prove it [thumbsup]
[coffee]
No, its that after a while the glory of posting all of your progress on a message board soon pales in comparison to how much extra annoyance it really is to be posting all of your progress on a message board. Maybe we'll see it when its done.
hasnt been on in forever i hope he is ok....
anyone have contact info for him?
if you type his screen name into google it comes up on lots of forums but none of them have been visited by him in months....
real name is trucker booth from Tennessee. cant find any contact info though
I hit up his FB... if it's him
Would the plate help find him? Tennesse dealer, looks like 1013DZ to me
Quote from: truckinduc on January 24, 2011, 07:55:39 PM
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Send him a friend request on Facebook
Quote from: Düb Lüv on July 22, 2011, 05:33:53 PM
Send him a friend request on Facebook
i reached out to a family member on his friend list.
Quote from: Raux on July 23, 2011, 01:50:01 AM
i reached out to a family member on his friend list.
Let us know what you find out. Hopefully he's OK.
i've heard nothing yet
Truckers in TN??? I'm in TN, find out where and if it's on the Eastern side I'll ride over.
I, like everyone else, miss his postings and hope he's okay....
BUT...
Just a thought, maybe he just wants to be left alone.
I do hope nothing unfortunate has happened, though.
[bacon]
hey everyone. Thank you for all of the concern, I reallyappreciate it. I am doing well. I have to keep this short due to the fact that I am on a friends phone at work. As for updates I have alot , sadly none on the monster. FYI I live right outside of chattanooga. Thanks again for the concern. Oh ya ps I'll be at duc stock at barber if anyone else will be there.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 08, 2011, 10:19:16 PM
hey everyone. Thank you for all of the concern, I reallyappreciate it. I am doing well. I have to keep this short due to the fact that I am on a friends phone at work. As for updates I have alot , sadly none on the monster. FYI I live right outside of chattanooga. Thanks again for the concern. Oh ya ps I'll be at duc stock at barber if anyone else will be there.
so was that you I sent a FB message to? damn you coulda answered ;)
glad to hear you are alright.
honestly I dont remember getting one. I just went back and looked through them and did not see anything either. Maybe my crazy ex deleted it, who knows. Either way thanks for trying to contact me.
Ill throw some random pictures up here of my latest stuff, not much since I have been working so much lately.
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Quote from: truckinduc on August 09, 2011, 04:53:41 AM
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DO WANT!
///welcome back, glad you're ok, missed this thread very much.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 09, 2011, 04:43:46 AM
honestly I dont remember getting one. I just went back and looked through them and did not see anything either. Maybe my crazy ex deleted it, who knows. Either way thanks for trying to contact me.
is that the one who wrote the blog post about you?
lol i read that too... Yeah anyways keep us posted we worry about people around here...
Quote from: Raux on August 09, 2011, 09:25:03 AM
is that the one who wrote the blog post about you?
what blog post?
nevermind. I just googled my name and found it. Ya that is her.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 09, 2011, 06:16:43 PM
nevermind. I just googled my name and found it. Ya that is her.
Wow, she does sound a little crazy. Glad to see you back...
Welcome back. You've been sorely missed around here.
Welcome back. Nice kickstand. :)
you sir have lots of toys.
rough frame design
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Quote from: truckinduc on August 11, 2011, 07:31:16 AM
rough frame design
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very nice, but why don't you go ahead and work on the swingarm with the same billet pieces.
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this is full compression. I just have enough room to move the engine forward the 1" I want. that will give me a 20" swingarm and 54" wheelbase.
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Keep in mind the tire grows in the center at speed, might want to give yourself a little leeway.
Quote from: Artful on August 11, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Keep in mind the tire grows in the center at speed, might want to give yourself a little leeway.
It grows and forks will flex just a bit, some as much as .25-.3 inches.
The forks on my Alazzurra flex about an inch at speed, but those are 35mm conventional forks...
Wow, subscribed.
Quote from: Syscrush on August 10, 2011, 04:51:25 PM
Welcome back. Nice kickstand. :)
+1. Would love to see something like that readily available for Monsters.
Quote from: Artful on August 11, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Keep in mind the tire grows in the center at speed, might want to give yourself a little leeway.
Quote from: ducatiz on August 11, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
It grows and forks will flex just a bit, some as much as .25-.3 inches.
The forks on my Alazzurra flex about an inch at speed, but those are 35mm conventional forks...
Yes you guys are exactly right. I also will allow for taller profile tires.
Ill be making another valve cover for the front exhaust. Much like I did for the rear. This valve cover will be a high clearance item to give a little extra room.
dude, someday (next summer?) i'd like to get ahold of you to commission an exhaust for a 76 (ish) cb550 cafe project, if you arent too busy
amazing work, super creative. You should consider doing industrial design work on the side
Quote from: truckinduc on August 09, 2011, 04:53:41 AM
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Cool looking build. Post some more info on it when you get a chance would love to know more about it.
Thanks!
^^^
[thumbsup]
Quote from: That Motorcycle Show on August 13, 2011, 03:25:08 PM
Cool looking build. Post some more info on it when you get a chance would love to know more about it.
Thanks!
love the look of this one
Quote from: Raux on August 11, 2011, 09:24:40 AM
very nice, but why don't you go ahead and work on the swingarm with the same billet pieces.
Honestly I cannot see any advantage of running a hybrid swingarm. Yes It may look cool but it will be heavier and have more potential for flex. The reason Im doing a hybrid frame is so I can (hopefully) tune the ridgidity sp? of the front end. 1.5" .049 wall 4043 is some stiff stuff.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 14, 2011, 05:10:40 PM
Honestly I cannot see any advantage of running a hybrid swingarm. Yes It may look cool but it will be heavier and have more potential for flex. The reason Im doing a hybrid frame is so I can (hopefully) tune the ridgidity sp? of the front end. 1.5" .049 wall 4043 is some stiff stuff.
take a good look at the bimota db7
I have. I'm running eccentric adjusters for the rear axle and I have already made the chromoly clamps. Unless someone can convince me otherwise I'm pretty sure the entire swingarm will be tubular.
This is for the other bike, but at least its motorcycle related.
started on the new swingarm. First I had to build a jig. I went ahead and made it long enough to do frames too.
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I love your work [drool]
That looks terrible.
(The can of Natural Light, that is.)
As always, really nice work man.
Which build is going to Ducstock?
This ^^^ bike will be at duckstock, and a little baby 2 stroke ducati if we finish it in time.
Can anyone find a decent wiring diagram for a ducati mountaneer 100? I think its a 64 or 65 model.
Hey what is worse than natural light? Natural light at 7 am.
I have the bevel heaven wiring diagram. I was hoping to find one that would be a little more informative.
a good thing about this jig is I can roll it around however I need to be comfortable welding.
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no chainline problems
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upper tube taking shape. Absolute pregnant dog to fit due to the extreme acute angles. This tube has a 3.5 degree bend. Opposite side will be even harder since I have to match this side.
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Wow! Over the past few days, I've read this thread end to end, start to finish.
What a roller-coaster of a ride.
I'll echo most of the other subscribers in that I'm extremely impressed by a ton of your work. Keep it up, this is one of the most interesting threads I've read in a long time.
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Absolutely outstanding. [thumbsup]
The man has skill.
Nice peek of your Ducati project in the background. This thread has run so long I can't remember what the Ducati project bike looked like. Does anybody remember what page the last good pictures are located?
Looks good. I'm wondering why you would put the axle adjusters on the lower tubes plane, instead of horizontal. Seems like this will change the ride height anytime you need to adjust the chain tension, wheras if it was horizontal it would minimize this. I know it's not a performance critical thing with this bike, just curious.
Quote from: truckinduc on September 30, 2011, 03:17:51 PM
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I'm guessing that the lower tubes will be more flat once it's on the bike, so putting the adjustment there won't change the ride height as much as it would by putting it on the upper tubes.
Quote from: Buckethead on October 01, 2011, 10:16:00 AM
I'm guessing that the lower tubes will be more flat once it's on the bike, so putting the adjustment there won't change the ride height as much as it would by putting it on the upper tubes.
Right on the money. the swingarm is at an 11 degree angle. I built the bottom tube to be horozontal, or very close, at ride height so the adjuster wont change anything.
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and a sneak peak of the latest toy.
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Quote from: Buckethead on October 01, 2011, 10:16:00 AM
I'm guessing that the lower tubes will be more flat once it's on the bike, so putting the adjustment there won't change the ride height as much as it would by putting it on the upper tubes.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: truckinduc on October 01, 2011, 02:51:06 PM
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Oooooooooooh... [drool]
we should have a subforum just for you to post stuff up... haha
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pushrod mount
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whoever it was that taught you how to do all of these things did a damn good job
Thank you. Sadly he passed away unexpectedly 2 years ago to the day last sunday. I think about him every day. He was like a big brother to me. I should show some of his work, absolutly unbelievable. At the time of his death he was gearing up to cast his own cylinder heads for the 450 single ducatis to make them more competetive in racing. Different ports - valve angles etc.
I got my rocker arm and pushrod made. Still need to make the bearing block and weld it to the frame.
I have alot more welding, cutting, and grinding to do to the frame. The bike needs to be ridable by thursday, thats 2 days. Lots of work to do. I can handle the fab work, its the wiring issue I hope I can get resolved.
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Swingarm is done (for now). Im going to ride it as is and determine if I need to brace it further. Everything is an experiment on this bike.
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Nice MkII
Mine:
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I'm no expert on suspension geometry, but that linkage on the swinger looks kinda f'ed up to me.
I'm no suspension expert either but that is a lot more than what I
can do with a welder and steel tube - great work Trucker [thumbsup]
Quote from: Syscrush on October 05, 2011, 02:19:37 PM
I'm no expert on suspension geometry, but that linkage on the swinger looks kinda f'ed up to me.
What about it looks make the beast with two backsed up?
Looks totally functional to me.
Quote from: Rameses on October 06, 2011, 09:12:15 PM
What about it looks make the beast with two backsed up?
Looks totally functional to me.
On first view, I thought that the back-leaning angle of the pushrod would make the linkage prone to binding. Looking at it now I think that's unlikely and it's probably just progressive linkage, although I have some concerns that the curve may rise too much.
Quote from: Syscrush on October 05, 2011, 02:19:37 PM
I'm no expert on suspension geometry, but that linkage on the swinger looks kinda f'ed up to me.
Then why say anything? [roll]
Maybe he was hoping for an explanation? You gotta admit, it IS a pretty funky design.
The design is a very slight rising rate. The pushrod angle vs rocker angle vs shock angle naturally make it get stiffer as it compresses also.
Without tuning it seems to be working rather well. I still need to have the shock pressurized though.
here is a short video that may help clear it up.
View My Video (http://tinypic.com/m/f0vmro/1)
the line in red is the progressiveness.
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is that how stiff the rear should be? i always thought 25 mm sag. not sure if its just a lack of a visual vertical reference point thats making me think its stiff. or maybe my 25mm is a lame soft street measurement and your more track oriented.
looks the goods either way man, well done
Yeah looks stiff as to me, but hey, I guarantee you know more about suspension than I do!
Quote from: truckinduc on October 09, 2011, 06:05:50 PM
the line in red is the progressiveness.
Looks nice, thanks for the info.
ya guys its still a little stiff. When the bike is closer to finished ill re spring it both front and rear.
DONE! [drool] [clap] finally up to date on this thread. [coffee] I am a fabricator in SoCal and you need to move out here bro, You could run this place with the right connections. You would be like the Ducati/real bikes version of Jessie James. lol Keep it up, you a member of the Ducati Community?
What is the ducati community? So I guess thats a no.
It's a community/forum that is a phone app created by Ducati. Pretty cool, you see the big wigs on there and find out new things to do with Ducati very quick.
Damn it! I caught up.....
Truckin, where's your shop at?
Shoot me a pm with your address sometime, I'd love to ride over and check it out sometime.
-chirp-chirp-
An amazing read
Hows the Duc?
Did you end up using that turbo?
Hows your knee?
Any new projects?
Have any big companies thrown a fat cheque your way for some ideas?
Any progress on the 10 trellis 696 swingarm manufacture? Did you have enough demand?
Thanks for all your detailed posts!
great skills, thanks for the inspiration
Dom
Bought a 900ss to molest.
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Quote from: cicii on May 26, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
An amazing read
Hows the Duc?
Did you end up using that turbo?
Hows your knee?
Any new projects?
Have any big companies thrown a fat cheque your way for some ideas?
Any progress on the 10 trellis 696 swingarm manufacture? Did you have enough demand?
Thanks for all your detailed posts!
great skills, thanks for the inspiration
Dom
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Thanks Dom. My monster is still on hold. I'm still designing how I want it exactly. No turbo.
I've moved to Nashville tn to work for a little shop doing fabrication. Hopefully I can get a little bike work in on the side.
Not enough demand for custom trellis swing arms.
Hopefully I can do some trick stuff with this 900ss. Not nearly involved as the monster project though. I actually want to ride this one sometime soon.
Quote from: BellissiMoto on April 19, 2012, 07:00:35 AM
Truckin, where's your shop at?
Shoot me a pm with your address sometime, I'd love to ride over and check it out sometime.
I moved to a little shop in Franklin tn called track.one motorsports. It's a car specialty shop but I'm willing to work on bikes too.
Nice one!
Good to see your back
[thumbsup]
Ideas ideas
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ideas...
are you asking? or showing?
I'm just brainstorming. What I plan on doing is making a removable subframe so I can use my carbon monster seat. Ill modify a monster swing arm to use eccentric adjusters and a top brace shock mount. I'd like to do an under engine muffler with exhaust exiting under the seat. That's the plan so far.
what is that exhust?
I'm looking for a set of intake manifolds or runners whatever you want to call them. The piece that connects the carbs to the heads. I'm going to build something custom but I need an extra set. Please pm me or post if you have a spare set.
Cool to see you moved to Nashville/Franklin.
I'll PM you my info so we can meet up and ride sometime.
Taking my new ss up to work
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Quote from: truckinduc on December 16, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
Taking my new ss up to work
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Quote from: truckinduc on December 16, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
Taking my new ss up to work
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Best moto pic I have seen in a long time.....wha..wha....whaaat? When there is will there is a way, eh?
Headlight mounts started
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Wow. I'm digging out a VERY old thread but somehow I've been active on this forum for a year now and hadn't seen it until now.
Curious if you're still around Trucker, and especially if you ever got around to finishing the Monster?! Great thread, very awesome to click through!
It was a great thread, but in the end it sucked because there was no conclusion. Just let this one die.
Quote from: Travman on July 29, 2013, 05:05:46 AM
It was a great thread, but in the end it sucked because there was no conclusion. Just let this one die.
So all my work thus far has sucked because I haven't finished the bike yet?
Yes guys I'm still working on it. Ill post pictures soon. I've moved and had a daughter so I haven't been updating much.
Nah, your work hasn't come close to sucking. I think the "sucks" part came in because some thought you may have stopped, or at least stopped visiting this site. It's great news that you still have it on the backburner and congratulations on the baby! Many of us will look forward to your updates, even if it takes a really long time.
Quote from: truckinduc on August 01, 2013, 09:04:55 AM
So all my work thus far has sucked because I haven't finished the bike yet?
Yes guys I'm still working on it. Ill post pictures soon. I've moved and had a daughter so I haven't been updating much.
None of this matters. We don't want your excuses.
Only pics
;)
Congrats, btw [clap]
Quote from: Travman on July 29, 2013, 05:05:46 AM
It was a great thread, but in the end it sucked because there was no conclusion. Just let this one die.
wow really? even there was no conclusion, IMO it still one heck of a great work regardless.
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Anymore photo's
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Is that a Aprilia swing arm?
Yep
I always thought the aprilia rs250 swing arm would look good on a monster.
Is that just set in place (work in progress) or have you been able to make it work?
Soon you'll be able to see what one looks like on a Panigale ;)
Quote from: The Don on August 08, 2013, 04:07:31 AM
I always thought the aprilia rs250 swing arm would look good on a monster.
Is that just set in place (work in progress) or have you been able to make it work?
That's just mock up. I've got to make new pivots and shorten the swingarm 2 inches. Ill also have to make a shock mount on top. The 999 wheel I'm using has bigger bearings so ill need to make spacers too. Once it's all done I think it will look pretty good.
I'm curious how that monster will end up looking if it ever gets finished. :-)
Glad to see that there's still some life left here.
Congrats on your daughter, that's a bigger deal than any bike!
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Interesting. Not a fan of the headlight. Any more pictures?
Quote from: truckinduc on August 07, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
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[evil] [clap]
Dude, I just ordered that header kit!!
But I went with the 54mm, not the 50. [drink]
Quote from: joshuajcrouch on November 17, 2013, 02:51:22 PM
Interesting. Not a fan of the headlight. Any more pictures?
I dont love the headlight either but its all ive got at the moment.. Its a Kodak dark room housing modified to fit a bmw e30 projector housing inside. Then its hot an HID setup in it.
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Quote from: Pedro-bot on November 19, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
[evil] [clap]
Dude, I just ordered that header kit!!
But I went with the 54mm, not the 50. [drink]
Those things are awesome
other bikes
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IM looking for a 4.5" 3 spoke monster-900ss rear wheel and a 5 spoke SSS rear wheel if any one has one relatively cheap, surface finish doesn't matter. Also looking for a sprocket cush drive carrier for a SSS.
Quote from: truckinduc on December 05, 2013, 11:15:17 AM
IM looking for a 4.5" 3 spoke monster-900ss rear wheel and a 5 spoke SSS rear wheel if any one has one relatively cheap, surface finish doesn't matter. Also looking for a sprocket cush drive carrier for a SSS.
I think I have the sprocket cush drive laying around and an eccentric for a SSS. Let me check when I get home.
Quote from: truckinduc on December 05, 2013, 11:05:31 AM
I dont love the headlight either but its all ive got at the moment.. Its a Kodak dark room housing modified to fit a bmw e30 projector housing inside. Then its hot an HID setup in it.
(http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/f6da8e98521111e3b574122de6ce78ca_8.jpg)
Now THAT is a great example of true Sport Touring!!
Quote from: MonstaS2R on December 05, 2013, 11:17:59 AM
I think I have the sprocket cush drive laying around and an eccentric for a SSS. Let me check when I get home.
Awesome. I have an eccentric but its pretty worn due to worn bearings im guessing.
Quote from: truckinduc on December 05, 2013, 06:13:50 PM
Awesome. I have an eccentric but its pretty worn due to worn bearings im guessing.
So no cush drive but have ecentric if you need one, just PM me.
Quote from: truckinduc on December 05, 2013, 06:13:50 PM
Awesome. I have an eccentric but its pretty worn due to worn bearings im guessing.
I have the sprocket setup from my s2r. pm me if you are interested :)
Quote from: truckinduc on December 05, 2013, 11:05:31 AM
I dont love the headlight either but its all ive got at the moment.. Its a Kodak dark room housing modified to fit a bmw e30 projector housing inside. Then its hot an HID setup in it.
Perfect!
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[popcorn]
Yum
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You're a bad, bad man.
He's only doing what's right.
Can you give us a brief rundown on what it's taken to the swing arm to this stage, and do you have anymore photo's?
Here Is a brief run down.
The aprilia swingarm needs to be shortened about 2 inches to be the same length of the 900ss.
I cut the stock pivots off then machined new pockets for the new pivots.
The stock rear header doesn't fit but I'm building a different exhaust so that doesn't bother me.
Next step is to make the shock mount.
Ill upload some pictures soon.
neato
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:o
[thumbsup]
Are those stainless?
Wow, I've probably said this before but, you have skills I dream of having. Well done sir
Quote from: Ahks on June 07, 2014, 04:31:48 PM
:o
[thumbsup]
Are those stainless?
No they are just 1018 mild steel, looking back i probably should have used stainless. They weigh .540 and .545 lbs. the goal of this bike is UNDER 300 lbs without fancy expensive lightweight wheels
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steering damper mount
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nice work! as usual.... :)