*Note, this is not a how to-let's not get into a debate over methods.
Are you out of shape?
Race leathers unusually tight?
Those stairs getting steeper?
Have random strangers stopped asking for sex?
Can't see your junk?
It's time to do something about it.
Post up here-set a goal, let us know how yer doing.
I'm tired of being sore and tired, so I've been running/weights for the last month or so. It's starting to pay off.
Ultimate goals are:
Drop weight from 210 to 190
Be able to run 5 miles in less than half an hour.
Pick up Paula's dirtbike with her on it (300 or so pounds).
So basically, get back to where I was 5 years ago.
Jeeze, her dirtbike weighs 225?
Quote from: NAKID on November 09, 2008, 10:04:56 AM
Jeeze, her dirtbike weighs 225?
Yeah-I can pick that up, just not at the point where I could lift much more without hurting myself.
I was being sarcastic, insinuating Paula weighs no more than 75lbs...
Quote from: NAKID on November 09, 2008, 10:21:03 AM
I was being sarcastic, insinuating Paula weighs no more than 75lbs...
Not far off-she weighs around 90 :P
I was guessing maybe 100....
TODMFGPWT
the official Ducati Monster Forum guess Paulas weight thread
I'm shooting for 185 (from 195) and.....
less gut.
wish me luck
I'm 476 and happy with that weight.
can't say I'm fixin' to really lose any weight (155) but doc says I need to.
I know I'm in horrible shape.
I need to start playing hockey again... :-\
I was given an ultimatum last week...
18 lbs by Christmas.
Quote from: Bick on November 09, 2008, 11:08:32 AM
I was given an ultimatum last week...
18 lbs by Christmas.
Unless you're a foot tall, at 18lbs you will be awfully skinny.
Good for you SomeG! [thumbsup]
I'm trying new cross-training routines while I have access to the school gym across the street. A VERY nice one too! I can't believe it's a high school gym!?! 28 benches, 28 squatracks, 12 clean & jerk platforms, free-weights, etc. It seems like the place is about 5000 sq/ft? There's also a football staduim outside (use the stairs), a field house..complete with a 45yd artificial turf field and a track.
Anyway, it's cool because I'm usually in there by myself so I can rotate between 3 benches at a time (flat, decline, incline) for chest workouts. I use kettlebells (never used before but I LOVE THEM!!), verticle leap platforms and sleds. The workouts have been tough and I'm noticing some positive changes. Thinking about incorporating a snorkel to simulate the high altitude workouts I used to get in Flagstaff.
I'm hoping to gain strength and a about 10-15lbs.
I'll be happy if I start hitting the steel again. My weight is fine but I'd like to see more muscle tone.
Quote from: Bick on November 09, 2008, 11:08:32 AM
I was given an ultimatum last week...
18 lbs by Christmas.
or the sleigh wont lift off?
;D
Right now: 230 lbs, 50 push-ups (2 minutes max), 65 sit-ups (2 minutes max), and a 12-minute 1.5 mile run.
Goal: 210 lbs, 75 push-ups, 95 sit-ups, 10:00 1.5 mile run by 1 Feb 09.
Bonus goal: I'd like to be able to do 6 overhand pull-ups. Eventually. I'll let you all know when I make it to 1.
Quote from: bobspapa on November 09, 2008, 12:30:49 PM
or the sleigh wont lift off?
;D
Yep. Either shed the lbs or I have to leave Joel's present at the North Pole. :P
New regulations limiting the allowable weight hauled by the Reindeer's Union. :-\
To the IZ: Kettlebells are awesome. And uncommonly expensive to have shipped to HI.
Current me: I've lost a LOT of strength and muscle in the last 3 months or so since I stopped going to the gym regularly. But I'm getting faster on the bike!
To use Obsessed #s, I am
168 lbs
62 pushups
98 situps (the most points i can get is at 98, so why do more?)
11:10 1.5 mile.
maybe 6 full overhand pullups.
Goal:
175-180 lbs
75 pushups
sub-10 min 1.5 mile
20 continuous real pullups
and able to swim 1.5 k then get on a bike, then run. right now, when i get into a pool and kick, i go slooooooowly backwards :P
It ain't pretty.
I'm not sure what I weigh.
I'd like to get under 190.
I'm also going to ride a Century around Tahoe in early June of next year.
Just got back from a brief ride on the roadie. [thumbsup]
Quote from: elTristo on November 09, 2008, 02:15:40 PMright now, when i get into a pool and kick, i go slooooooowly backwards :P
It ain't pretty.
That's all ankle flexibility. I have never been able to move forward on a kickboard. [roll] You can just drag em behind you. They'll be fresher for the bike and run. [thumbsup]
Quote from: NAKID on November 09, 2008, 10:25:58 AM
I was guessing maybe 100....
You're right.
Quote from: somebastid on November 09, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
Pick up Paula's dirtbike with her on it (300 or so pounds).
My goal is to survive this. :P
;D
i'm on board with this,
i'll post back when i know what my goals are [thumbsup]
Quote from: kopfjager on November 09, 2008, 02:48:00 PM
That's all ankle flexibility. I have never been able to move forward on a kickboard. [roll] You can just drag em behind you. They'll be fresher for the bike and run. [thumbsup]
hmmm... I'll have to check the internet for a super-ankle stretcher complete with fish scaler and sidewalk chalk. ;D
goal: sixpack by DIMBY.
done so far: 215 lbs to 170 (with a blip back to 190 post hernia surgery... then back to 170). 42 minute 5 mile run in October....no need to ever go faster for me.
Quote from: Statler on November 09, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
goal: sixpack by DIMBY.
done so far: 215 lbs to 170 (with a blip back to 190 post hernia surgery... then back to 170). 42 minute 5 mile run in October....no need to ever go faster for me.
That's a lot of work.
It would take me at least two weeks to get back a six pack, maybe next month.
Quote from: lethe on November 09, 2008, 04:43:28 PM
That's a lot of work.
It would take me at least two weeks to get back a six pack, maybe next month.
never had one. lots to go. lot less than before though. It would help if I stopped drinking like a fish.
Quote from: Statler on November 09, 2008, 04:45:11 PM
It would help if I stopped drinking like a fish.
You have to pick your battles.
Quote from: Statler on November 09, 2008, 04:45:11 PM
never had one. lots to go. lot less than before though. It would help if I stopped drinking like a fish.
My body naturally wants to stay in halfway decent shape even dropping my appetite when my metabolism slowed. I should take advantage of but instead end up liking that I can sit around and not get fat just a little soft.
Quote from: Obsessed? on November 09, 2008, 04:46:21 PM
You have to pick your battles.
That is a battle I have absolutely no interest in winning.
I'm happy each spring if my leathers zip. ;)
Quote from: Statler on November 09, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
goal: sixpack by DIMBY.
I don't think I'm alone in saying, "we'll take your word for it."
;D
Recently lost 15 lbs. Now looking to lose another 10 to get to 115-120 but I seem to have plateaued. I've thought about trying P90X, anyone done it?
The SO might get in on this as well but he'd have to give up gas station food.
Quote from: JBubble on November 09, 2008, 05:52:14 PM
Recently lost 15 lbs. Now looking to lose another 10 to get to 115-120 but I seem to have plateaued. I've thought about trying P90X, anyone done it?
The SO might get in on this as well but he'd have to give up gas station food.
WTF JB?! Are you 12?! 115-120lbs?!
How about increasing your reps and then do a few more reps after you've thrown up!!
Quote from: IZ on November 09, 2008, 06:04:10 PM
WTF JB?! Are you 12?! 115-120lbs?!
How about increasing your reps and then do a few more reps after you've thrown up!!
No Adam, I'm 5'2. Not much taller than MsInc. So 115-120 is a good weight for me.
Hey!
Don't go trying to change Mother.
We like him just the way he is!
>:(
;)
Quote from: JBubble on November 09, 2008, 06:08:46 PM
No Adam, I'm 5'2. Not much taller than MsInc. So 115-120 is a good weight for me.
I'm just giving you sh*t. ;)
the s/o is 5'2" as well..I think about 105
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 09, 2008, 06:10:03 PM
Hey!
Don't got trying to change Mother.
We like him just the way he is!
>:(
;)
Ooops.
Well he's still a grumpy world weary philosophizer. He just grins like fool every once in a while now. ;)
Quote from: IZ on November 09, 2008, 11:11:15 AM
I'm hoping to gain strength and about 10-15lbs.
eating real bacon would help there!
Quote from: JBubble on November 09, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
He just grins like fool every once in a while now. ;)
TMI, TMI!!!!
;)
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 09, 2008, 06:23:42 PM
eating real bacon would help there!
Actually, if that's his goal, "turkey bacon" would *cough* *cough* *hack*...
What I meant to say was, "turkey bacon" is a great source of *hack* *cough* *wheeze*...
<robot voice>
Flavor is flavor. "Turkey bacon" is "turkey bacon." Never the twain shall meet.
</robot voice>
Sorry IZ. :-\
I tried.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 09, 2008, 06:23:42 PM
eating real bacon would help there!
also helps harden the arteries. no thanks [cheeky]
I'll stick to the TB! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Obsessed? on November 09, 2008, 06:29:23 PM
Actually, if that's his goal, "turkey bacon" would *cough* *cough* *hack*...
What I meant to say was, "turkey bacon" is a great source of *hack* *cough* *wheeze*...
<robot voice>
Flavor is flavor. "Turkey bacon" is "turkey bacon." Never the twain shall meet.
</robot voice>
Sorry IZ. :-\
I tried.
[thumbsup] Why do you think I eat it O?! Started substituting it 20 years ago when I had high cholesterol and was in training.
Quote from: IZ on November 09, 2008, 06:36:38 PM
[thumbsup] Why do you think I eat it O?!
Because you are a loser?
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 09, 2008, 06:45:41 PM
Because you are a loser?
but my little league baseball coach told me I'm a winner!
Quote from: IZ on November 09, 2008, 06:51:35 PM
but my little league baseball coach told me I'm a winner!
The winner thing fades over time bro. ;)
I'm so outta shape, I sweat when I eat.
My goal: Stop sweating when eating.
:P
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on November 09, 2008, 07:00:15 PM
I'm so outta shape, I sweat when I eat.
My goal: Stop sweating when eating.
:P
I can live with that.
Quote from: ducpainter on November 09, 2008, 06:53:25 PM
The winner thing fades over time bro. ;)
Wel, I'm still holding onto that after 25 years! [cheeky]
Quote from: IZ on November 09, 2008, 07:05:09 PM
Wel, I'm still holding onto that after 25 years! [cheeky]
good for you... [thumbsup]
Quote from: ducpainter on November 09, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
good for you... [thumbsup]
Yeah, right. If I had any role models and/or someone to encourage me and tell me I was a winner as a kid..things might have been a little bit different!
The Charles Barkley School of Athleticism?
Ranks up there with the "Skinny bastard older brother calling you fat for being 'normal sized' and giving you a complex" School of Workin' Out.
Mother make the beast with two backser. Still stings. >:(
Quote from: JBubble on November 09, 2008, 06:08:46 PM
No Adam, I'm 5'2. Not much taller than MsInc. So 115-120 is a good weight for me.
Actually, I'm taller than you (5'4", with a short inseam btw). I'm a bit underweight.
I'd like to drop about 25 lbs of body fat and increase my GPP. I'm doing CrossFit and as soon as I get my act in gear, I'll be doing Zone.
Some of my PRs:
Deadlift: 143 (3x5)
Overhead squat: 43 lbs (5x5)
Push jerk: 68 lbs (5x5)
Overhead press: 53 lbs (5x5)
Clean: 73 lbs (5x5)
Back squat: 103 (5x5)
This is all from not working out at all up to what I've been able to do in 2.5 months. I love CrossFit to death. I'm having a blast.
Quote from: Ducatista on November 09, 2008, 07:56:41 PM
I'd like to drop about 25 lbs of body fat and increase my GPP. I'm doing CrossFit and as soon as I get my act in gear, I'll be doing Zone.
Some of my PRs:
Deadlift: 143 (3x5)
Overhead squat: 43 lbs (5x5)
Push jerk: 68 lbs (5x5)
Overhead press: 53 lbs (5x5)
Clean: 73 lbs (5x5)
Back squat: 103 (5x5)
This is all from not working out at all up to what I've been able to do in 2.5 months. I love CrossFit to death. I'm having a blast.
Good jod girl. [thumbsup] CrossFit is the source.
Oh, and my log: http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=36936
I thought this wasn't going to be that serious of a fitness thread?
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 09, 2008, 08:27:35 PM
I thought this wasn't going to be that serious of a fitness thread?
nope, it wasn't!
Great..d*mn crossfit fanatics are going to get this to the politics section!!
Quote from: IZ on November 09, 2008, 08:38:34 PM
nope, it wasn't!
Great..d*mn crossfit fanatics are going to get this to the politics section!!
What's so wrong with Crossfit, IZ? Made me into the man I was 3-4 years ago. The man I am today is the proud product of Slothfit.
Hey hey! Get that nonsense outta my thread!
You wanna discuss methods go start another one-exercise methods is like renting movies or pizza toppings-no one ever agrees.
G'wan go-shoo-shoo!
Quote from: elTristo on November 09, 2008, 09:49:20 PM
What's so wrong with Crossfit, IZ? Made me into the man I was 3-4 years ago. The man I am today is the proud product of Slothfit.
Nothing is wrong with crossfit. This is the exact reason the OP stated..keep it simple. We've gone into the
fitness..my workout is better than yours-thing a few times already. I was joking with Randy in my comment.
sorry. low blood sugar and intellect. shoulda realized that before [thumbsup]
Quote from: elTristo on November 09, 2008, 10:09:07 PM
sorry. low blood sugar and intellect. shoulda realized that before [thumbsup]
no worries! [thumbsup]
Quote from: IZ on November 09, 2008, 09:57:40 PM
Nothing is wrong with crossfit. This is the exact reason the OP stated..keep it simple. We've gone into the fitness..my workout is better than yours-thing a few times already. I was joking with Randy in my comment.
too bad nobody realized your humor.
they all think that you gain strength by pulling nails from your tires.
Quote from: Ducatista on November 09, 2008, 07:56:41 PM
Clean: 73 lbs (5x5)
Not to be critiquing or anything like that...
But given the maximal power delivery required, you probably shouldn't be doing more than triples in a set of cleans. Much past that and you're slowing down, which defeats the purpose.
I recognize that some WOD's call for 30 olympic lifts for time, but those are sub maximal lifts done for met con.
Now out of the serious zone...
I'm at 160 lbs now and would like to gain to 175 or so. Whole milk FTW.
Overall shape isn't bad but could use some cleaning/toning. Currently at 175lbs and that doesn't really need to change. The toning will take care of the soft spots. Despite being only 5'8" I don't necessarily look like I weigh 175 ~
JM
Quote from: XiaoNio on November 10, 2008, 02:38:01 AM
Not to be critiquing or anything like that...
But given the maximal power delivery required, you probably shouldn't be doing more than triples in a set of cleans. Much past that and you're slowing down, which defeats the purpose.
I recognize that some WOD's call for 30 olympic lifts for time, but those are sub maximal lifts done for met con.
I guess you didn't read my entire post. I've only been doing this a couple of months. I'm nowhere near trying for a 1RM on ANYTHING. I can obviously shoot for more and am capable of more, but that is not the point of what I'm doing now. If you read Mark Rippetoe's book, Starting Strength, you'll find that 5x5 is one of his protocols for getting the strength foundation needed. I can't give you the complete answer to your question, but you're more than welcome to ask Mark himself in his Q&A forum on strengthmill.com. Yes, he has his very own forum.
I just do a black box approach. I try it, and if it works well, I continue doing it until it works not as well. If it doesn't work from the start or stops working, then I change something. So far, it has been working well for me, and my coach seems to think it's working well for me, since I doubled my weights both months I've been there. That will probably be the last time I double weights in a month, though.
though moving to korea has helped a little, i'm still a flabby bastard. not fat fat, but decidedly flabby.
way out of shape.
about 210, last i checked. plus or minus a few.
want to get back under 200, back where i can do a serious amount of sit-ups and push-ups, and back to where i can run without thinking i'm going to die.
I was 280 (I am 6'5" btw..) at the begining of the year. So I started the patented dumbass cross-multiply/divide-fit plan:
I ride my bike until I vomit, or have to be somewhere else. (Anywhere from 25 - 50 miles.)
I run until I vomit, my knee gives out, or have to be somewhere else. (Anywhere from 5 - 10 miles.)
I lift until I vomit, or I have to be somewhere else. (1.5+ hours..)
I try to do one of those three, or a comination of those three -- about 5 times a week.
Running doesn't work to well a lot of days. I have no feeling in my left knee from an old motocross injury.
I take that back, most days I have no feeling -- when I do get feeling it is vomit inducing pain.
It has been working pretty well. I don't vomit as quickly anymore and I'm about 235 right now. About 6-8" pant sizes down too.
I rode my bike Saturday until BOTH of my thighs cramped up right as I crested a hill. That hurt.
JM
Quote from: Ducatista on November 10, 2008, 05:15:22 AM
I guess you didn't read my entire post. I've only been doing this a couple of months. I'm nowhere near trying for a 1RM on ANYTHING. I can obviously shoot for more and am capable of more, but that is not the point of what I'm doing now. If you read Mark Rippetoe's book, Starting Strength, you'll find that 5x5 is one of his protocols for getting the strength foundation needed. I can't give you the complete answer to your question, but you're more than welcome to ask Mark himself in his Q&A forum on strengthmill.com. Yes, he has his very own forum.
I'm actually pretty familiar with Rippetoe's methods and starting strength. 5x5 is a great system for all primary lifts. Because cleans are a high coordination and explosive activity, they put a heavy load on the CNS. As such, doing them at a higher rep range or in the fatigue state can be counterproductive.
As for 1RM, once your form is down, there's no reason not to see where your strength limits are at. With a good spotter, everything should be perfectly safe. Maxes when you're at a meet and maxes when you're in the gym feeling out your limits are very different things.
Quote from: the_Journeyman on November 10, 2008, 05:34:15 AM
I rode my bike Saturday until BOTH of my thighs cramped up right as I crested a hill. That hurt.
JM
Hold the throttle with your right hand, not your thighs. ;)
Quote from: somebastid on November 10, 2008, 09:34:05 AM
Hold the throttle with your right hand, not your thighs. ;)
:D [laugh] This bike's throttle IS my thighs!
JM
Funny that I find this thread today-I brought my gym clothes to work so I could life after work.
I've been lifting pretty consistently for the last 4 years. About 8 months ago, I started training for the firefighters physical exam, 4 months ago I stopped training when I barely missed the cut for the physical exam. haven't really done a whole lot since.
But, I'm one of those skinny guys who can't do anything about it, so even when I haven't lifted (but I have a very physical lifestyle, like softball 3 times a week, and I run up and down stairs whenever I see them) I still look pretty good.
My goal=stop drinking soda (damn mountain dew) and get back to the weights. I've gotta get my 6 pack definition back in the next 2 months for my honeymoon and carribean cruise.
current status: 6', 240 lbs. probably couldn't run a mile in under 10 min. 3 years ago before i started my current job, which is pretty sedintary, I was 215. Still pretty out of shape, but i could at least play full court pickup basketball for a few hours, and i could dunk. Now 30 lbs heavier i can barely reach the rim. My goals are to get under 200, run a mile in 6 min. and dunk again.
Oh, and if anyone reading this doesn't know what CrossFit is, here is a pretty good video that explains some of the principles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjdQZxTIj1U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjdQZxTIj1U)
Keep in mind that Jennifer, whose photos are at the end of the video, made these changes in 7 months of dedicated CrossFit workouts and nutrition changes.
5' 11'' current weight 256 lbs.
At the time of the flight cycle open house I was 280
current goal: 225 by Feb (max weight I can fit in my leathers) for new bike time.
Overall goal 185, by my birthday next year (Aug)
I'd like to drop about 25-30 lbs. I'm currently 240...was about 210 4 years ago.
kinda funny cause I just started last week, but I can't stand working out for the sake of working out, thus I've come up with a new system for me
my plans so far:
I've joined a martial arts class (4 hours a week, not great for getting in shape, but it's fun and I think it'll help)
mtb bike ride (2 times a week/ about 35 miles)
Hiking every afternoon (my favorite trail is a 590 ft climb in about .7 miles...it's steep for my fat ass [laugh])
any suggestions along this line would be appricaited too. I don't like working out, but I know I need to get into shape.
Quote from: Le Pirate on November 10, 2008, 10:51:44 AM
I'd like to drop about 25-30 lbs. I'm currently 240...was about 210 4 years ago.
kinda funny cause I just started last week, but I can't stand working out for the sake of working out, thus I've come up with a new system for me
my plans so far:
I've joined a martial arts class (4 hours a week, not great for getting in shape, but it's fun and I think it'll help)
mtb bike ride (2 times a week/ about 35 miles)
Hiking every afternoon (my favorite trail is a 590 ft climb in about .7 miles...it's steep for my fat ass [laugh])
any suggestions along this line would be appricaited too. I don't like working out, but I know I need to get into shape.
add some push-ups and sit-ups as soon as you wake up and before bed. 50-100 day 7 days/wk!!
Quote from: IZ on November 10, 2008, 11:08:27 AM
add some push-ups and sit-ups as soon as you wake up and before bed. 50-100 day 7 days/wk!!
don't forget the pull-ups.
and tequila.
wait...what?
Tequila then pull-ups...
JM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on November 10, 2008, 11:20:10 AM
Tequila then pull-ups...
JM
You kid, but there were discussions about this on the CrossFit forum about CF drinking games. It was pretty silly.
Quote from: Ducatista on November 10, 2008, 10:19:58 AM
Oh, and if anyone reading this doesn't know what CrossFit is, here is a pretty good video that explains some of the principles.
Don't mention that word here. The "girls" will get upset. :-*
Quote from: kopfjager on November 10, 2008, 12:00:26 PM
Don't mention that word here. The "girls" will get upset. :-*
What word?
no style or routine discussions...this thread is just for how badly we aren't reaching our goals awesome we're all looking anbd feeling.
Quote from: Statler on November 10, 2008, 12:04:43 PM
no style or routine discussions...this thread is just for how badly we aren't reaching our goals awesome we're all looking anbd feeling.
well in that case...as I sit here drinking a orange soda...I am well on my way to not succeeding [laugh]
but truthfully, isn't that what goals are for....falling short of?
Quote from: Statler on November 10, 2008, 12:04:43 PM
no style or routine discussions...this thread is just for how badly we aren't reaching our goals awesome we're all looking anbd feeling.
Sorry about that. I'll only post results, then. ;D
None of that was said with mod/admin hat on...just echoing Dave's initial post. Heck, we can all threadjack him and discuss why X is better than Y, but several of us (me) aren't in good enough shape to have much of an opinion on it.
Quote from: Statler on November 10, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Heck, we can all threadjack him and discuss why X is better than Y, but several of us (me) aren't in good enough shape to have much of an opinion on it.
I am! ;D
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll291/msincredible99/guess.jpg)
I know it's an old pic but you can haz cheezeburger.
Quote from: Le Pirate on November 10, 2008, 10:51:44 AM
any suggestions along this line would be appricaited too. I don't like working out, but I know I need to get into shape.
I'll help threadjack since you asked - You might see if there is a rock gym in your area. I don't like the typical weights deal either but climbing will whip your butt. You can always take it outside if you decide you like it and get some gear.
Quote from: Statler on November 10, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
I know it's an old pic but you can haz cheezeburger.
I was eating five meals a day. Each one probably rivaling the size of my current three meals a day, combined.
I recall one day where I ate somewhere along the lines of two steaks, an entire chicken, and...a whole apple pie.
"Leftovers" were but a myth seen only on television sitcoms.
My then workouts were around four hours a day-2 hours in the morning, two in the afternoon. I ran minimum ten miles a day. Working ten hours a day on the boat, too-that involved walking pretty much constantly, and hauling the anchor for a 65' boat. It weighed more than I did-I could haul it hand over hand.
Too bad I didn't know then what I had. I just looked like that all the time-not even flexing or sucking it in. That picture is hanging up in the house, reminding me to get my ass back to the gym.
work 10 hours a day, 4 hours working out and running 10 miles a day? When did you sleep?
Quote from: DCXCV on November 10, 2008, 01:15:22 PM
I'll help threadjack since you asked - You might see if there is a rock gym in your area. I don't like the typical weights deal either but climbing will whip your butt. You can always take it outside if you decide you like it and get some gear.
I'm out of shape, unless you count round. 5'8" and 197 as of last Thursday (damn work shipping scale). I went to the gym and was dying after a 4 mile walk/ 60 minutes. 4 years ago I was doing 7 miles/ hour with ease. 30 lbs extra really sucks.
I was just thinking this same thing, rock gym. There is one in the town I live in Woburn, MA. All summer it had a Monster parked out front most days, anyone on here?
Quote from: somebastid on November 10, 2008, 12:40:49 PM
I am! ;D
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll291/msincredible99/guess.jpg)
D*mn B! What year was that taken? 1978?! Look at those porkchops!!
Quote from: Le Pirate on November 10, 2008, 12:15:52 PM
well in that case...as I sit here drinking a orange soda...I am well on my way to not succeeding [laugh]
but truthfully, isn't that what goals are for....falling short of?
[laugh]
In that case I need to stop eating so much pizza & slow down on the vino too. ;D
Quote from: River on November 10, 2008, 02:23:14 PM
[laugh]
In that case I need to stop eating so much pizza & slow down on the vino too. ;D
Oh god, pizza is going to be the death of me. Especially now that we have a Little Ceasars in town.....
I'm at 6"4' and 225 but I'm proud to say that most people guess 20-30 lbs under that. I carry it well ;D
I'd ride more but the single speed geared as is doesn't do too well with the hills around here.
Quote from: NAKID on November 10, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
work 10 hours a day, 4 hours working out and running 10 miles a day? When did you sleep?
The running was part of the workouts-I could do ten miles in < one hour so it wasn't so bad. Basically two hour workout in the morning, and one in the afternoon-five mile warmup for each.
You must have been in pretty good shape to run 10 mph for 5 miles or more. That's pretty hardcore!
Quote from: Jarvicious on November 10, 2008, 03:04:27 PM
Oh god, pizza is going to be the death of me. Especially now that we have a Little Ceasars in town.....
[Threadjack] Little Ceasars ain't pizza. [puke]
Little Skeezers....
I can do 10mph for one mile and then I fall over half dead and can do nothing but lounge and drink for the rest of the day.
and my little 29 inch inseam legs have to move soooooooo fast to do that.
Quote from: NAKID on November 10, 2008, 04:15:05 PM
You must have been in pretty good shape to run 10 mph for 5 miles or more. That's pretty hardcore!
I was on a crew team for ten seasons.
It's not an easy sport.
Quote from: NAKID on November 10, 2008, 04:15:05 PM
You must have been in pretty good shape to run 10 mph for 5 miles or more. That's pretty hardcore!
Don't forget..he has a runner's body too. Longer legs..easier running than us hobbits! [cheeky]
Quote from: somebastid on November 10, 2008, 04:48:02 PM
I was on a crew team for ten seasons.
It's not an easy sport.
Cool sport! [thumbsup] You do that in college too?
Quote from: somebastid on November 10, 2008, 04:48:02 PM
I was on a crew team for ten seasons.
It's not an easy sport.
Rowing was easy compared to some of the land workouts we did back when I was on the college crew team. Nothing like [puke] over the side of an 8 after a race!
What seat were you Dave? I was a 7 and then an 8, a once in a while 1 or 2.
Quote from: czaja on November 10, 2008, 05:07:39 PM
Rowing
Ugh..one more thing I never did do when I was up in Seattle. I always got distracted by them when I was crossing the 520.
Quote from: IZ on November 10, 2008, 05:21:24 PM
Ugh..one more thing I never did do when I was up in Seattle. I always got distracted by them when I was crossing the 520.
http://www.austinrowing.org (http://www.austinrowing.org)
http://www.texasrowingcenter.com/ (http://www.texasrowingcenter.com/)
Never to late!
Quote from: IZ on November 10, 2008, 05:01:27 PM
Don't forget..he has a runner's body too. Longer legs..easier running than us hobbits! [cheeky]
Speak for yourself, I have a 32" inseam, which is more than I can say for you "Mr. Ican'tflatfootmy620"....
whew! fit forum moving too fast. (huff)
must slow down and catch breath
*collapse*
;D
Quote from: czaja on November 10, 2008, 05:26:10 PM
http://www.austinrowing.org (http://www.austinrowing.org)
http://www.texasrowingcenter.com/ (http://www.texasrowingcenter.com/)
Never to late!
The s/o and I kayak regularly at Lake Austin. I see the rowers out there once in awhile.
Quote from: NAKID on November 10, 2008, 05:47:42 PM
Speak for yourself, I have a 32" inseam, which is more than I can say for you "Mr. Ican'tflatfootmy620"....
D*mn..you must be able to wipe your azz over your shoulder then?! Those are some long legs for a guy who isn't any taller than me. ;D
Quote from: IZ on November 10, 2008, 07:08:49 PM
Those are some long legs for a guy who isn't any taller than me. ;D
Funny, you seem to be the only one who thinks you're 5'9" [laugh]
Just follow the blog link at the bottom here. It'll let you know in 20 weeks if i'm kicking masters 40+ ass in 2009.
Quote from: NAKID on November 10, 2008, 07:16:10 PM
Funny, you seem to be the only one who thinks you're 5'9" [laugh]
Seriously dude..I think the perseveration you demonstrate here is a sign of a head injury.
http://braininjury.org.au/portal/fact-sheets/perseveration---fact-sheet.html (http://braininjury.org.au/portal/fact-sheets/perseveration---fact-sheet.html)
Perseveration may be defined as repetitive and continuous behaviour, speech or thought which restricts new learning and adaptive functioning
Yeah, cause I'm the only one who says it.
[laugh]
would the two of you get a room already. [roll]
we're talking fitness here, not who's taller between the two of you.
I'm doing 12oz curls tonight! [thumbsup]
i think i burned extra calories today from shivering [laugh]
Dammit! Just weighed myself at the gym. I took a week off cuz I was sick and lost the 3 pounds I gained!! >:(
Quote from: NAKID on November 10, 2008, 07:16:10 PM
Funny, you seem to be the only one who thinks you're 5'9" [laugh]
If he's 5'-9", I should be in the NBA. [laugh]
Today was a bunch of fail.
Felt like shit halfway into the 25 miles.
Coughing and spitting blood sucks.
Still finished what I wanted to though, just not nearly as fast as I wanted to.
I thought I was feeling better from being sick over the weekend. Guess not.
When I started toward the end of August, I could barely do 2 pull ups on the big assistance band. In today's WOD, I did a total of 90 (plus the 10 in the warm up). Not much body composition change, but I'm working on it.
maybe not much visible change, but give yourself some credit. increased strength is a great sign. visible change will follow.
Quote from: wbeck257 on November 11, 2008, 03:28:02 PM
Today was a bunch of fail.
Felt like shit halfway into the 25 miles.
Coughing and spitting blood sucks.
Still finished what I wanted to though, just not nearly as fast as I wanted to.
I thought I was feeling better from being sick over the weekend. Guess not.
If you're seriously spitting up blood, that's your body's way of telling you to see a doctor....
Quote from: NAKID on November 11, 2008, 05:15:16 PM
If you're seriously spitting up blood, that's your body's way of telling you to see a doctor....
Nah -- been really dry out, pretty sure it was just a bloody nose.
But I, due to either allergies or a cold, haven't gotten to breath through my nose in the last few days.
So it went down my throat. And then onto the trail.
I need to sit down and read the 24 page thread on bikes -- I tried the last two and was lost.
Quote from: Ducatista on November 11, 2008, 03:46:23 PM
When I started toward the end of August, I could barely do 2 pull ups on the big assistance band. In today's WOD, I did a total of 90 (plus the 10 in the warm up). Not much body composition change, but I'm working on it.
Hi Em!
First of all - you r one buff badass chica. Second of all, regarding the body composition change, here is some encouragement:
I put on about 20 extra pounds last year due to a horrible job, etc and when I started working hard on taking it off, I weight trained and worked out like *crazy* for two months, gaining tons of physical strength and getting in great shape but the fat just wouldn't go away - then all of a sudden, after about 2.5 months it just magically melted away *really* fast (all 20 lbs gone two months later).
That was about 7 months ago or so and so far I've been able to maintain it by working out 2-4 times a week pretty hardcore and eating whatever I want (I mean this literally and not in "girlie speak" - my bf can attest to it). I'm not sure why it works that way with weight training for women, but there seems to be a delay between the muscle building phase and the fat burning phase.
Hope that helps!
Quote from: DesmoLu on November 11, 2008, 10:49:57 PM
Hi Em!
First of all - you r one buff badass chica. Second of all, regarding the body composition change, here is some encouragement:
I put on about 20 extra pounds last year due to a horrible job, etc and when I started working hard on taking it off, I weight trained and worked out like *crazy* for two months, gaining tons of physical strength and getting in great shape but the fat just wouldn't go away - then all of a sudden, after about 2.5 months it just magically melted away *really* fast (all 20 lbs gone two months later).
That was about 7 months ago or so and so far I've been able to maintain it by working out 2-4 times a week pretty hardcore and eating whatever I want (I mean this literally and not in "girlie speak" - my bf can attest to it). I'm not sure why it works that way with weight training for women, but there seems to be a delay between the muscle building phase and the fat burning phase.
Hope that helps!
what she said [thumbsup]
you initially replace fat with muscle. no/little weight loss, but if you tracked body fat % it goes down.
More muscle means that your body burns more calories just maintaining that muscle you have trained your body into beliving it needs.
it's like leaving an extra light on in your house all the time. the energy bill goes up.
If you need to track something, take pictures. Weight is a gross oversimplification of progress
that is some helpful info...
i've been experiencing the same issue with strength gain but no change in my body composition or the scale.
it's weird that i can feel my muscles getting stronger, i just can't see certain one's yet :-\
i go to the gym 3-4 times a week, and eat pretty healthy meals, it's those dang snacks in between >:(
i need to be buff by or before the end of june for our wedding ;D
Quote from: wbeck257 on November 11, 2008, 06:25:53 PM
Nah -- been really dry out, pretty sure it was just a bloody nose.
or just TB, nothing to worry about...
Quote from: JBubble on November 09, 2008, 05:52:14 PM
The SO might get in on this as well but he'd have to give up gas station food.
So what your saying is
Cup-o-noodles, dorito's, a pepperoni stick and a Monster isn't a nutritious dinner?
Quote from: Mother on November 12, 2008, 05:36:52 AM
or just TB, nothing to worry about...
Still kickin` today... I guess we will find out. ;D
I'm really bad about doctors. I just don't like them.
Sit in a room for all that time, spends two minutes with you, writes down some antibiotics and is gone.
"Probably nothing wrong with you, but take these..."
Quote from: JBubble on November 12, 2008, 05:41:53 AM
Yeah.....not really. You want that food or some good homemade stuff that I would make you?
Answer carefully....
;)
You would make me cup-o-noodles?
Jess! Mother! Get a room! Or else I'll have to drag Stillie in here and we'll just make EVERYONE puke!
Quote from: Ducatista on November 12, 2008, 08:55:37 AM
Jess! Mother! Get a room! Or else I'll have to drag Stillie in here and we'll just make EVERYONE puke!
My sentiments exactly 'tista. Of course, if everyone pukes, everyone loses a couple pounds, right? [evil]
Quote from: elTristo on November 12, 2008, 09:10:32 AM
My sentiments exactly 'tista. Of course, if everyone pukes, everyone loses a couple pounds, right? [evil]
True, but then you have to eat again.
Fine.
Quote from: Ducatista on November 12, 2008, 09:12:51 AM
True, but then you have to eat again.
but that's the fun part. [evil]
Quote from: JBubble on November 12, 2008, 09:40:08 AM
Fine.
Fine: you two will get a room
or
Fine: I need to drag Stillie in here
?
Quote from: Ducatista on November 12, 2008, 09:52:48 AM
Fine: you two will get a room
or
Fine: I need to drag Stillie in here
?
I deleted the disgusting posts.
Quote from: JBubble on November 12, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
I deleted the disgusting posts.
BOOOO!!!
I was just kidding. :-*
Quote from: JBubble on November 12, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
I deleted the disgusting posts.
Oh, poo. It was meant in fun, really!
wow, just call me threadkiller. :P
guess I'll go to the gym.
OK so I haven't had cup-o-noodles or a Monster in like 3 days
Am I fit now?
fit for what?
The Monster is fine as long as they are the sugar free (blue) Monsters and you don't drink more than 2 a day (the 16oz ones, not the 32)....
Quote from: Mother on November 14, 2008, 12:43:12 PM
OK so I haven't had cup-o-noodles or a Monster in like 3 days
Am I fit now?
meh, close enough. You can't go cup-o-noodlesless forever.
Quote from: NAKID on November 14, 2008, 04:19:47 PM
The Monster is fine as long as they are the sugar free (blue) Monsters and you don't drink more than 2 a day (the 16oz ones, not the 32)....
oh boy. he's in trouble.
So update o' the week.
Ran every morning this week for half an hour. Averaging only about 3 miles, as I'm running with the dogs, and they're fairly insistent on sniffing at things.
Lifted Monday, Wednesday, Friday, primarily concerned with shoulder work (due to an injury), but also worked out arms, chest, back. Managed a second run in on Friday (40 mins).
I'm starting to feel terribly energetic ;D I'm still at 210 pounds, but the belt has come in two notches, so I'm gaining muscle.
I'll be in great shape for the flounder chucking contest at DIMBY 2.0.
Down 10 lbs. 8 to go.
I don't own a scale, so I have no idea if I'm losing or what. I'll just measure my results in stamina ~
JM
2 weeks in now.
This past week I got in about 4 workouts...but I've been terribly busy too.
This week my goal is to actually MAKE time to do some working out.
So far no real noticeable difference, except I'm not super sore afterwards....so thats a good thing. I'm not in it for the short term though, this is a long term goal for me.
i thought my core was stronger than it actually is...
my abs have finally stopped hurting from last tuesdays ab's only class at the gym.
should i keep doing that class or are my abs trying to tell me something?
Maybe work up to the intensity. My thighs hurt for 3 days after doing monkey rounds one day.
JM
Your body is trying to tell you that you don't use them enough. Keep it up...
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on November 17, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
i thought my core was stronger than it actually is...
my abs have finally stopped hurting from last tuesdays ab's only class at the gym.
should i keep doing that class or are my abs trying to tell me something?
Especially in the beginning of a fitness plan, it's super easy to overtrain, especially when doing isolation exercises. The way I've managed it, if I'm still sore after I warm up, it's not a good day to work out. I know a woman who got rhabomyolysis in her abs from overtraining them (combined with poor hydration) on a GHD. The most recent time that I overcooked it was doing back squats. I was hobbling for three days. 10 days later, I did the same progression of weights and wasn't sore at all. Your body will get stronger, but just be careful not to get so sore that you miss workouts. There is good sore and bad sore. Good sore tells you you're making progress. Bad sore makes you miss workouts.
thanks for the feedback.
i've been to the gym everyday this week so far, cardio & light weights,
i skipped the abs-only thing this week, i think i'll give it another try though
[thumbsup] :)
Quote from: somebastid on November 15, 2008, 03:56:11 PM
I'll be in great shape for the flounder chucking contest at DIMBY 2.0.
uh oh.
Wahoo..I (was) back on track!!
*gained the weight back I lost from when I was sick two weeks ago.
*incorporated new exercises into my routine and I've been hitting the legs. BTW..I hate working my legs.
*8/10 days I've been to the gym. [thumbsup]
Of course, I may have f'ed it up though earlier today as I jacked up my foot kicking field goals! [roll]
I have a feeling I won't be walking much the next couple of days. >:(
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on November 19, 2008, 06:02:29 PM
thanks for the feedback.
i've been to the gym everyday this week so far, cardio & light weights,
i skipped the abs-only thing this week, i think i'll give it another try though
[thumbsup] :)
As soon as you're able to warm up without soreness AFTER, get back to it!!!
And for those who have any notion they may be "too old" to get fit, check out this couple:
(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/JimmyMaryWorkout1.jpg)
It's NEVER EVER too late!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOArCACRcC4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOArCACRcC4)
Quote from: IZ on November 19, 2008, 06:05:21 PM
[snip]
*incorporated new exercises into my routine and I've been hitting the legs. BTW..I hate working my legs.
I heard that! That's why I ride a bike.
I am still losing weight. I do not wish to lose weight. My body fat does not appear to be changing, so that has... unfortunate implications.
Mild threadjack (sorry) but does anyone have opinions about home workout equipment? For instance are those Bowflex Revolution things any good? They're sure as hell expensive!
Also, any ellipticals that ya'll like?
Quote from: swampduc on November 19, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
Mild threadjack (sorry) but does anyone have opinions about home workout equipment? For instance are those Bowflex Revolution things any good? They're sure as hell expensive!
Also, any ellipticals that ya'll like?
My only thoughts on Bowflex type stuff is check craigslist. There are ALWAYS a few going cheap around here. As for ellipticals, I don't much like em in general.
I have a Total Gym at home, I like it and have used it for years.
If I were to have some cardio at home (which I wouldn't, don't need to, between the biking and the running), I would go for a rowing machine.
Quote from: swampduc on November 19, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
Mild threadjack (sorry) but does anyone have opinions about home workout equipment? For instance are those Bowflex Revolution things any good? They're sure as hell expensive!
Also, any ellipticals that ya'll like?
I think they're only as good as you make them. Most people buy them and don't use them. I suspect they're too convenient. "I'll do it later...I'll do it later...." etc. If you have to make time to go to the gym, it helps create good habits.
Also it's terribly motivational to be surrounded by hot broads in spandex.
Quote from: msincredible on November 19, 2008, 09:09:22 PM
I have a Total Gym at home, I like it and have used it for years.
If I were to have some cardio at home (which I wouldn't, don't need to, between the biking and the running), I would go for a rowing machine.
+1!
Quote from: somebastid on November 19, 2008, 09:15:15 PM
Also it's terribly motivational to be surrounded by hot broads .
ALWAYS helps!!
Motivation and proper workout attire are extremely important. You got to get in the right mindset in order to get fit:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/3044680907_85b86aa2f4.jpg?v=0)
Quote from: Jobu on November 19, 2008, 11:08:01 PM
Motivation and proper workout attire are extremely important. You got to get in the right mindset in order to get fit:
looks like the gym at the apt complex
Quote from: IZ on November 19, 2008, 11:15:27 PM
looks like the gym at the apt complex
Do you really think I would work out anywhere else wearing those shoes and socks?
[laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: Rameses on November 19, 2008, 11:25:36 PM
Do you really think I would work out anywhere else wearing those shoes and socks?
[laugh] [laugh]
Yeah, I noticed the pastel-plaid Vans you're sportin'.
Come on though..a guy who would attempt to eat 10lbs of greasy bacon in one sitting?!
I wouldn't put anything past you!!
;)
Quote from: swampduc on November 19, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
Mild threadjack (sorry) but does anyone have opinions about home workout equipment? For instance are those Bowflex Revolution things any good? They're sure as hell expensive!
Also, any ellipticals that ya'll like?
We have a revolution in the basement. It 'feels' better than their rod-based equipment. It's been one of the main things that has helped me get this far (although now I'm doing lots of stuff with no equipment...nice change). Also have treadmill and a pretty full set of dumbells.
But it's all about what you do...we had a nice home gym in our old place that was great for hanging laundry on. Why do I use this one more than I ever did that one? motivation.
Home gym versus gym membership when we had our daughter. I can workout in AM while she is sleeping, or evening after her bedtime...some gyms have daycare, but it still is more of a pain. The only thing I miss is indoor pool for winter swimming.
Well, I'm super-late to this thread, but I can share a lot.
Couple of big themes; 1) I'm getting treated for Sleep Apnea 2) I'm seeing a personal trainer 3 times per week, and doing cardio work 2 or 3 more times per week (I'm in the gym M-F at LEAST) and 3) my goal is for cardio fitness and weight loss of about 70-75 lbs.
I basically got totally disgusted with myself back in August and since the middle of September I've been back in the gym, totally changing my eating habits and on my way to transforming myself physically.
Here's a picture of me at the end of July. The picture was taken 1 hour before the bike was picked up and taken to its new owner. I call this picture "Sad Monkey"
(http://www.mendhams.com/cars/SadMonkey.jpg)
Since that picture I've shaved the goatee, and probably lost 20 lbs. For the first time in my life (and this includes varsity wrestling in high school) I'm able to run continuously for over 15 minutes. Big torso + short legs = running usually SUCKS. I have a decent level of cardio fitness, and I've lost the double chin, and some of the gut in the picture.
My trainer is psycho - he's a former Golden Gloves boxer who has been truly merciless on me.
Once I get down to one of my weight targets (not the ultimate one) I'll be ready to buy a new motorcycle [thumbsup]
Thanks for letting me share!
thanks for sharing tommys67
good luck at reaching your goal [thumbsup]
I have been to the gym now 1/1 days [drink]
mitt
Quote from: mitt on November 20, 2008, 01:13:12 PM
I have been to the gym now 1/1 days [drink]
mitt
Don't be afraid to go big Mitt.
2/2 CAN be done!!
Quote from: IZ on November 20, 2008, 01:45:00 PM
Don't be afraid to go big Mitt.
2/2 CAN be done!!
You're crazy, man!
I heard about a guy that tried 2/2 and never can back. I'll pass on that.
Thanks for the feed back on home gyms all. I think I've got the motivation, it's a time issue - I'd like to be able to do part of my workout at like 5 am and the rest (strength) late. Gym closes at 8:30 pm
Quote from: swampduc on November 20, 2008, 03:36:49 PM
Thanks for the feed back on home gyms all. I think I've got the motivation, it's a time issue - I'd like to be able to do part of my workout at like 5 am and the rest (strength) late. Gym closes at 8:30 pm
I'm so glad I have my own set up. I've lifted more at home than I ever did at a Holiday Fitness when I had a membership. What a waste of money that was.
I'm down 5 lbs in the last 2 weeks.
My blog is getting updated regularly.
Not feeling that well this week. Managed to get in three runs, probably one more tomorrow. No gym. Lame.
No cardio this morning due to lack of properly functioning equipment at the hotel gym, no bike with me this time, and not in a good spot for running outside, but I did get in some lifting with dumbbells and probably about 5 miles of walking today.
Quote from: msincredible on November 20, 2008, 08:14:04 PM
No cardio this morning due to lack of properly functioning equipment at the hotel gym
I always take my push-up bars and a set of 3 power bands (bought at Target for about $8) when I travel. Not much cardio from this set up but you easily do about 10-15 different exercises.
Quote from: IZ on November 20, 2008, 01:45:00 PM
2/2 CAN be done!!
Done. 2/2 and feeling good.
mitt
Quote from: IZ on November 21, 2008, 05:59:40 AM
I always take my push-up bars and a set of 3 power bands (bought at Target for about $8) when I travel. Not much cardio from this set up but you easily do about 10-15 different exercises.
push up bars worth getting? I've been cheating and using a set of 45 lb dumbells as push up bars. I guess real ones would give me a little more range.
Quote from: mitt on November 21, 2008, 06:06:33 AM
Done. 2/2 and feeling good.
mitt
i went 3/4 so far...
sabotaged myself last night with pizza & beer and no workout :-\
Hey, your body needs pizza and [drink] too. When I quit smoking and drinking (for a while), I got sick way more often than I had before. Beer a day (at least) keeps the doc away.
Quote from: mitt on November 21, 2008, 06:06:33 AM
Done. 2/2 and feeling good.
mitt
[thumbsup]
Quote from: Statler on November 21, 2008, 06:07:15 AM
push up bars worth getting? I've been cheating and using a set of 45 lb dumbells as push up bars. I guess real ones would give me a little more range.
I've used them for a long time. Dumbells will work though too. You can always stack them on books on either side and get a deeper stretch. I was looking at those travel "Perfect Push-up" bars too. Anywone use those??
Quote from: IZ on November 21, 2008, 02:13:04 PM
I've used them for a long time. Dumbells will work though too. You can always stack them on books on either side and get a deeper stretch. I was looking at those travel "Perfect Push-up" bars too. Anywone use those??
Yup. They are okay. Not quite as comfy on the hands as the non-travel version, but they still do the job. I notice a much more chest-centric push-up with them than standard bars. But I am a mutant, so your results may vary. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Statler on November 21, 2008, 06:07:15 AM
I've been cheating and using a set of 45 lb dumbells as push up bars. I guess real ones would give me a little more range.
Why is that cheating? The more you can do with less sounds good to me....
3/3 - tonight was swimming [beer]
mitt
Great. Now you fockers are raising the bar on me. Sheesh.
I gotta get to work.
Quote from: Statler on November 21, 2008, 06:07:15 AM
push up bars worth getting? I've been cheating and using a set of 45 lb dumbells as push up bars. I guess real ones would give me a little more range.
If you wanna up it a notch, in the up position of every pushup, pull one of the dumbells up to your shoulder. Alternate arms on each rep.
[thumbsup]
Quote from: Rameses on November 21, 2008, 10:38:51 PM
If you wanna up it a notch, in the up position of every pushup, pull one of the dumbells up to your shoulder. Alternate arms on each rep.
[thumbsup]
omg you psycho [laugh]
In crew back in high school we were forever trying to up each other. First it was who could do more pushups......then more pushups on gravel.
This became more pushups on the knuckles on gravel.
Then....more clapper push ups on your knuckles on the gravel.
Finally this escalated to clappers behind the back landing on your knuckles on gravel.
Teenage boys are terribly competitive.
Quote from: somebastid on November 22, 2008, 10:02:51 AM
Finally this escalated to clappers behind the back landing on your knuckles.
I'm going to try it right now!!
OK..I just did and I think the only way one could do them is if they were a teenage boy with absolutely no lat muscles!! [cheeky]
I worked up to 1200/day. Bruce Lee and his push-ups always inspired me, along with these
INSANE numbers:
WORLD RECORDS
non-stop: 10,507; Minoru Yoshida (JAP), Oct 1980 DETAILS
one year: 1,500,230; Paddy Doyle (GBR), Oct 1988 - Oct 1989
24 hours: 46,001; Charles Servizio (USA), 24/25 April 1993 at Hesperia
(new record claim, not yet verified: Jeffrey Warrick (USA), 46300)
1 hour: 3,877; Bijender Singh (IND), 20 Sept 1988 DETAILS AND NATIONAL RECORDS
30 minutes: 2,354; Rolf Heck (GER), 13 Nov 2000
10 minutes (women): 426; Renata Hamplová (TCH), Rekord-Klub SAXONIA Record Festival in Schwedt, 2 Sept 1995
5 minutes: 441; Giuseppe Cusano (GBR), Loftus Road Soccer Stadium at the Fulham v. Portsmouth game on 24 Nov 2003
3 minutes (women): 190; Renata Hamplová (TCH), Record Festival Pelhrimov 1995
one minute: Record claims up to 199 in one minute have been made. We do, however, not continue to publish these record claims, because it became impossible to judge about the correctness of the exercises at this speed.
one-armed, one week (168 hours): 16,723; Paddy Doyle (GBR), Feb 1996 in Birmingham
one-armed, 5 hours: 8,794; Paddy Doyle (GBR), 12 Feb 1996 in Birmingham
one-armed, 1 hour: 2521; Paddy Doyle (GBR), 12 Feb 1990 in Birmingham
one-armed, 30 minutes: 1382; Doug Pruden (CAN), 30 July 2003 at the Body Quest Health Club Edmonton
one-armed, 10 minutes: 546; Doug Pruden (CAN), 30 July 2003 at the Body Quest Health Club Edmonton
one-armed, on back of hands, one hour: 677; Doug Pruden (CAN) at the Body Quest Health Club Edmonton, 9 Nov 2005
on fists: 5557 (in 3:02:30 hours), Doug Pruden (CAN), 9 July 2004, Body Quest Health Club Edmonton
1000 pushups on fists: 18:13 minutes, Doug Pruden (CAN), 9 July 2003 at the Body Quest Health Club Edmonton
on back of hands, 15 minutes: 627; Paddy Doyle (GBR), 8 November 2007, Stamina's Boxing Self Defence Gym, Erdington, Birmingham RECORD HISTORY
on back of hands, 30 minutes: 1386; Paddy Doyle (GBR), 8 November 2007, Stamina's Boxing Self Defence Gym, Erdington, Birmingham RECORD HISTORY
on back of hands, 1 hour: 1940; Paddy Doyle (GBR), 8 November 2007, Stamina's Boxing Self Defence Gym, Erdington, Birmingham RECORD HISTORY
finger-tips, 5 hours: 8,200; Terry Cole (GBR), 11 May 1996 in Walthamstow
one finger: 124 Paul Lynch (GBR), 21 April 1992 in London
http://www.recordholders.org/en/list/pushups.html (http://www.recordholders.org/en/list/pushups.html)
Thanks bastid!
New inspiration..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x9FBChYMCo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x9FBChYMCo)
At least 10 by Christmas!!
[thumbsup]
Quote from: IZ on November 22, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
I'm going to try it right now!!
OK..I just did and I think the only way one could do them is if they were a teenage boy with absolutely no lat muscles!! [cheeky]
Thanks bastid!
New inspiration..
At least 10 by Christmas!!
[thumbsup]
Eh....we had no sense of self preservation. Often we'd do them until we got too tired...then keep going, thus landing on our faces, in the gravel. Dumb.
We also ran half marathos occasionally, and at one point, did 1,000 squats, straight. Sick sport.
We took 1st, second, and third in essentially every race. ;D
Quote from: somebastid on November 22, 2008, 12:08:53 PM
Eh....we had no sense of self preservation. Often we'd do them until we got too tired...then keep going, thus landing on our faces, in the gravel. Dumb.
I believe this statement leads us full circle as to why you're in pain now later in life!! ;)
Quote from: IZ on November 22, 2008, 12:31:33 PM
I believe this statement leads us full circle as to why you're in pain now later in life!! ;)
[laugh] [clap]
it's cold enough here to sting the lungs while running outside. I think it's inside workout until spring except for shoveling snow and playing with A outside.
5/5 (although no. 4 was just a hike in the woods)
I am not sure what I will do for exercise while traveling over thanksgiving. Take a bike along? Push-ups and sit-ups? I am not a runner.
Walking is exercise. [thumbsup]
Quote from: mitt on November 24, 2008, 06:27:45 AM
Push-ups and sit-ups
at least 100-200/day! [thumbsup]
Keep it up Mitt!!
i'm kicking off the week wit an hour of cardio [thumbsup]
iz... you'd make a good personal trainer
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on November 24, 2008, 02:19:09 PM
i'm kicking off the week wit an hour of cardio [thumbsup]
iz... you'd make a good personal trainer
Thanks Duca. I was going to get AFAA certified in my 20's but never did since I was busy with college/work that whole decade! ;) I've trained with and trained several friends/family on the side for nearly 20 years now. Actually, putting together some workouts for some collegues at work right now. I may still get certified, who knows.
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on November 24, 2008, 02:19:09 PM
iz... you'd make a good personal trainer
I certainly wouldn't mind if some of my 'before' pics were of iz focus quality.
Dear Iz,
How do you get someone to work out with you. The idea that pilates will make you faster has not sunk in.
Concerned in NH
Flexible makes those low-speed "oops" moments hurt a lot less. You know, the ones where if feels like you pulled every muscle in your body? It helps with those ~
JM
Quote from: t.here on November 24, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
Dear Iz,
How do you get someone to work out with you. The idea that pilates will make you faster has not sunk in.
Concerned in NH
I've heard that regular yoga makes you 45% less likely to run into 848s.
Quote from: Statler on November 24, 2008, 05:44:13 PM
I've heard that regular yoga makes you 45% less likely to run into 848s.
can you fill me in on this one?
I haven't had a soda in a whole day.
Quote from: t.here on November 24, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
Dear Iz,
How do you get someone to work out with you. The idea that pilates will make you faster has not sunk in.
Concerned in NH
T, I haven't tried pilates yet but from my experience (after a car accident), Bikram's Yoga helped me get back into shape. I try to do the poses still every once in awhile but the Aikido and regular stretching before workouts keeps me limber.
I have not given up the tequila. The extra push for the abs in the Spring is going to be difficult.
On the other hand I'm a hell of a lot healthier and my back hasn't kept me out of work in almost two years...so now the motivation to go even further is purely looks...which is easier to not care about quite as much as the overall health.
mmmmmmmmm tequila.
Is it normal to bloat up an inch or two during the day, due to water-weight?
Quote from: Statler on November 24, 2008, 05:44:13 PM
I've heard that regular yoga makes you 45% less likely to run into 848s.
I'm perfectly happy being unfit...
leave me out of this. ;)
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Hayden+featured+in+Men+Fitness+magazine (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Hayden+featured+in+Men+Fitness+magazine)
Hayden
Seven days of cardiovascular work are combined with three strength workouts and the intriguing addition of power yoga, with the intention of giving Hayden strength in the unorthodox position adopted when riding. This is a serious workload when added to his testing and competing schedule, especially considering the marathon sessions undertaken on track by `the hardest working rider in MotoGP´.
Quote from: RodeoClown on November 25, 2008, 07:54:34 AM
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Hayden+featured+in+Men+Fitness+magazine (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Hayden+featured+in+Men+Fitness+magazine)
Hayden
Seven days of cardiovascular work are combined with three strength workouts and the intriguing addition of power yoga, with the intention of giving Hayden strength in the unorthodox position adopted when riding. This is a serious workload when added to his testing and competing schedule, especially considering the marathon sessions undertaken on track by `the hardest working rider in MotoGP´.
Seems like they mentioned that on his MTV special.
Quote from: t.here on November 24, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
Dear Iz,
How do you get someone to work out with you. The idea that pilates will make you faster has not sunk in.
Concerned in NH
I might be able to help with this
take one part camel back
one part bottle of vodka
one part ice
combine the two in the camel back
let the hose dangle and begin running
instant companion
Quote from: Mother on November 25, 2008, 08:47:50 AM
I might be able to help with this
take one part camel back
one part bottle of vodka
one part ice
combine the two in the camel back
let the hose dangle and begin running
instant companion
She runs like a girl....
Quote from: ducpainter on November 25, 2008, 08:59:12 AM
She runs like a girl....
so, you should be able to keep up. ;D ;)
Quote from: Scooter Montgomery on November 25, 2008, 06:55:19 AM
I haven't had a soda in a whole day.
I've drank 2 [laugh]
but I've also took IZ's advise and started doing push-ups/sit-ups every morning (haven't made it to evening ones too yet) :P
Quote from: Le Pirate on November 25, 2008, 01:13:16 PM
I've drank 2 [laugh]
but I've also took IZ's advise and started doing push-ups/sit-ups every morning (haven't made it to evening ones too yet) :P
You sound like the s/o drinking 2-3 cokes/day!! [roll]
Keep up the push-ups. [thumbsup]
7/7 days
Quote from: IZ on November 25, 2008, 05:50:49 PM
You sound like the s/o drinking 2-3 cokes/day!! [roll]
Keep up the push-ups. [thumbsup]
Hey Iz,
My wrist hurt real bad while doing pushups (I think cause of my weight) would it be better to do girl pushups, or wall ones, untill my wist can support doing them?
Quote from: Court-Jester on November 25, 2008, 07:21:27 PM
Hey Iz,
My wrist hurt real bad while doing pushups (I think cause of my weight) would it be better to do girl pushups, or wall ones, untill my wist can support doing them?
Are you referring to push-ups from the knees? Cause this girl does proper push-ups. ;)
You might look into push-up handles, or if you have access to dumbbells, try some dumbbell chest presses. The typical hand position used (palm on floor) is not particularly ergonomic and I'm not surprised it hurts.
Another alternative is doing push-ups on your fists.
Meanwhile, do some forearm curls with light weights to strengthen your wrists.
Quote from: msincredible on November 25, 2008, 07:39:50 PM
Another alternative is doing push-ups on your fists.
Exactly my answer Ms.I!!
After several years of doing push-ups CJ (standard and at different hand/feet angles), my wrists started hurting too! I began doing all push-ups on my fists. No more aches after that but my knuckles are callased now because of it. Give those a shot. Plus, you get a deeper stretch! [thumbsup]
Someone also mentioned back pain after push-ups. For me..the solution to that was crossing one leg behind the other and doing push-ups essentially on my big toe. It felt like I was taking the pressure off my lower back and seemed to alleviate the aches & pains I was having. [thumbsup]
Quote from: IZ on November 25, 2008, 09:14:45 PM
Exactly my answer Ms.I!!
After several years of doing push-ups CJ (standard and at different hand/feet angles), my wrists started hurting too! I began doing all push-ups on my fists. No more aches after that but my knuckles are callased now because of it. Give those a shot. Plus, you get a deeper stretch! [thumbsup]
Someone also mentioned back pain after push-ups. For me..the solution to that was crossing one leg behind the other and doing push-ups essentially on my big toe. It felt like I was taking the pressure off my lower back and seemed to alleviate the aches & pains I was having. [thumbsup]
Another thought along those lines: when I hurt my back a few years ago, I had to concentrate on tightening the transverse abdominus while doing pushups. This had the added effect of (somehow) seeming to put slightly more weight forward and making the pushups a little harder, but my back was better able to take the position.
Oh, and my wrists tend to hurt as well. Instead of fists, I do first knuckle on the fingers and the pad of my thumbs. Sounds strange, but it works for me.
Quote from: somebastid on November 22, 2008, 10:02:51 AM
clappers behind the back landing on your knuckles on gravel.
Getting back to the behind-the-back-clappers push-ups.
I've been trying daily for a week but can't do any yet! >:(
My triceps and lats are getting in the way. Gotta keep stretching I guess?!
WoD "Mr. Joshua" 5 rounds for Time In Honor of SO1 Joshua Harris KIA Afghanistan, Aug 08
Rx Me
Run 400m Run 400m
30 Glute- ham sit-ups 20 Glute-ham sit-ups
250lb Deadlift, 15 reps 185lb Deadlift, 15reps time-24min
I got my first three bodyweight dead lifts (153 lbs) yesterday. My form remained solid during the lifts. No hip pop or butt wink. I just focused on keeping my upper body tight, elbows forward, and chest up.
For anyone who wants to see how I'm doing, this is my workout log: http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=36936
I can't believe this has become a "Dear IZ, I need workout advice" thread.
[roll]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 26, 2008, 06:42:36 PM
I can't believe this has become a "Dear IZ, I need workout advice" thread.
[roll]
Notice it's not a "Dear IZ, how do I grow 3" taller?" thread...
Quote from: NAKID on November 26, 2008, 06:46:34 PM
Notice it's not a "Dear IZ, how do I grow 3" taller?" thread...
you guys are the same height, so quit trying to threadjack.
Again..
No love..
Do you have some sort of auto search program that picks up every time someone talks about you?
Quote from: Bick on November 26, 2008, 07:52:06 PM
Do you have some sort of auto search program that picks up every time someone talks about you?
I think he searches regularly for "IZ"....
alright, the three of you need to drop and give me twenty!
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 26, 2008, 08:27:09 PM
alright, the three of you need to drop and give me twenty!
Where do I send the check?
One...
Two...
Three...
Four...
Five...
Six..
Se.....ve.......n...
Eigh............................t...
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...............
Quote from: IZ on November 26, 2008, 02:15:20 PM
Getting back to the behind-the-back-clappers push-ups.
I've been trying daily for a week but can't do any yet! >:(
My triceps and lats are getting in the way. Gotta keep stretching I guess?!
The best I was ever able to get was 8. [cheeky]
But that was several years ago. Right now I could probably only do 2 or 3. ;)
edit: Oh and when I first started trying to do them back in high school, I worked my way up to them by doing pushups and slapping my hips. It got me used to the motion and gave me a good indication of when I was able to start clapping behind my back. Give it a try. [thumbsup]
you silly masochists!
Quote from: Bick on November 26, 2008, 07:52:06 PM
Do you have some sort of auto search program that picks up every time someone talks about you?
Fluke.
I just happened to click on two threads in a row and was thinking..WTF?!
No love.
IZ iz :-[
Anyway..Rams..good idea. I have to give that a shot. I said 10 by Christmas. [thumbsup]
WoD "Nate" In Honor of CPO Nate Hardy, KIA Iraq
Complete as many rounds as you can in 20 min.
Rx Me
2 Muscle-ups 3 Pull-up/3 Dip
4 Handstand push-ups 4 Elevated feet (4ft) push-ups
8 2 Pood Kettlebell swings 8 50ib Dumbell swings 11 rounds
Quote from: kopfjager on November 27, 2008, 04:29:58 PM
WoD "Nate" In Honor of CPO Nate Hardy, KIA Iraq
Complete as many rounds as you can in 20 min.
Rx Me
2 Muscle-ups 3 Pull-up/3 Dip
4 Handstand push-ups 4 Elevated feet (4ft) push-ups
8 2 Pood Kettlebell swings 8 50ib Dumbell swings 11 rounds
Yeah, it's going to be a while before I get into the MU club. I do full pike push ups on roughly 36" (I didn't have a measuring tape the last time I had them in a WOD), and am swinging the 1.25 pood KB. Someday...
KBs are so much easier to swing than DBs. The it is so much easier to get the full hip extension out of a KB than it is with a DB.
Quote from: Ducatista on November 27, 2008, 08:04:52 PM
Yeah, it's going to be a while before I get into the MU club. I do full pike push ups on roughly 36" (I didn't have a measuring tape the last time I had them in a WOD), and am swinging the 1.25 pood KB. Someday...
KBs are so much easier to swing than DBs. The it is so much easier to get the full hip extension out of a KB than it is with a DB.
The MU will take alot of work, even for strong folks. Alot of technique. You're right the KB is so much better than the DB. [thumbsup]
decent control yesterday (too many portions of tequila but I only have so much willpower to go around the table). relatively quick 3.5 miles this afternoon and a bit of lifting. One holiday down without weight gain...one big one to go still in 2008.
How's everyone else doing this long weekend?
The food wasn't too far off yesterday. My cheats were the stuffing, which was mostly veggies anyway, but still had a bit of bread, and the yummy strawberry daiquiris that Zooom was making! I had 4 thin crackers with the cheese, but overall it didn't go too badly. My CF box doesn't have any afternoon or evening sessions over the weekend, so I'll just hit it hard next week!
Did pretty good.
Steamed Lobster, Veggies and dip (made with no fat plain yogurt), 2 glasses of wine, dessert (my weakness) and a porter. [drink]
Did 2mi walk, 1 mi run, and 30 min of pilates today. [thumbsup]
Tomorrow will be bad. B's sons coming over for hockey game. Pizza, wings, and I made a cheese cake. [bang]
still can be yummy. A slice of pizza instead of four or five (what I can easily do)...and two or three wings instead of 20....thin slice of cheesecake...if it's not every day it's easily compensated for. Nothing is worth skipping a family holiday for...just moderating and working hard.
[beer]
oh...and I looove doing fruit smoothies with added protein powder for lunch (skim milk, no-fat vanilla yogurt, forzen strawberries, frozen blueberries, a banana, vanilla protein powder). If they are for dinner a little rum makes them even yummier on weekends. ;D
It's both gratifying and upsetting to know I'm out of shape enough and young enough still that I can be healthier every coming birthday than the one before for quite a number of them before age becomes any reason for a decline. No excuses. Here's to being better next birthday than the last [drink]
Quote from: Statler on November 28, 2008, 02:24:21 PM
oh...and I looove doing fruit smoothies with added protein powder for lunch (skim milk, no-fat vanilla yogurt, forzen strawberries, frozen blueberries, a banana, vanilla protein powder). If they are for dinner a little rum makes them even yummier on weekends. ;D
love em!
Didn't think to add rum though! [thumbsup] Thanks Stat!
I think a lot of this thread is fit people getting fitter. Bet there are a lot of people reading it and thinking pullups are not likely, let alone muscle ups.
If anyone is reading thinking that.....it's possible....
Small steps.
walking longer and faster...then maybe jogging....then maybe running... maybe even not soon..... but next year.... little steps. It takes time.
Pull ups with a foot on a chair to help...maybe just one or two.
Then several.
Then one without help.
Then a dozen.
Then holy shit you have lats you can see. And it feels good.
But start today.
Not new years. Not next month. Not next week. Right now.
You can do it. If I can, and I'm one of the laziest people ever, you can.
And I have a long way to go and I get frustrated. And I go backwards sometimes..and then recover.
+1 Statler.
Great words of encouragement. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Statler on November 28, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
I think a lot of this thread is fit people getting fitter. Bet there are a lot of people reading it and thinking pullups are not likely, let alone muscle ups.
If anyone is reading thinking that.....it's possible....
Small steps.
walking longer and faster...then maybe jogging....then maybe running... maybe even not soon..... but next year.... little steps. It takes time.
KEY POINT..
IT TAKES TIME!!
So many people ask how long it takes to get in shape and just don't want to hear that it can take years. A lifestyle change. It's really a simple thing "in little steps" as you say Stat.
I try to explain this to so many beginners! One guy in AZ just couldn't get it in his head that his calves were not going to grow unless he punished them (refer to Arnold's routine for calves). He ended up getting implants. [roll] P*ssy!
And it is hard and it does take work.
Which is why some very fit people tend to frown on those who are totally unfit. Just like we as motorcyclists sometimes frown on those who can't drive stick and don't want to learn. There is nothing wrong with being proud of accomplishments in any area.
But it's not impossible, for anyone.
(I'm actually just talking myself into pushing a little harder here...just happens to be online and viewable).
Quote from: Statler on November 28, 2008, 02:49:10 PM
And it is hard and it does take work.
Which is why some very fit people tend to frown on those who are totally unfit. Just like we as motorcyclists sometimes frown on those who can't drive stick and don't want to learn. There is nothing wrong with being proud of accomplishments in any area.
But it's not impossible, for anyone.
(I'm actually just talking myself into pushing a little harder here...just happens to be online and viewable).
I think it's great to see people make the effort but they
have to keep at it! Just working out 3/days week for 1 month isn't going to change a thing!
One of my relatives has been trying (as she said) for years! I watched her go through all the motions..for over a decade..buying the machines, the diet foods, etc. I always encouraged her. Nothing ever changed. Now..she's several sizes smaller. It took a lifestyle change and a negative report from the doctor. The lifestyle change is what everyone was telling her all that time. It's great to see her now with all that energy, self-confidence and doing things she couldn't physically do her whole adult life.
I love seeing
the biggest loser and always bring that up to people who "think" they can't do it!!
For any who don't know me, up until August, I had not darkened the door of a gym in years. I yo-yo'd from a low of 120 pounds (stick skinny for me with a size 4 hanging off) all the way up to 165 (size 10-12, where I was in August). I couldn't run a mile if someone was chasing me. I struggled with just putting a case of water in the grocery cart. I can't say I've seen huge body composition changes since August, since I haven't locked down the nutrition yet, but I've seen huge strength gains. I posted a link to my work out log. Feel free to read where I was just a month or two ago. When I first walked into my CF box in August, I could barely do one pull up on the big assistance band. I just did 60 of them on the little assistance band in between all the squats and push ups in a single 20 minute workout (and that was after smoking myself on my warm up and a heavy strength training session).
I'll never say it has been easy to get the gains I have. I crush myself in every workout. I have dealt with mild to moderate muscle soreness often and acute muscle soreness once (overcooking it on back squats). I've had to make a few behavior modifications other than just going there, the most noticeable being my hydration. I drink a ton of water during the day. If I don't I feel like a prune during my workouts.
I have miles and miles to go until I get where I want to be, and I'm not sure where that is just yet. I thought I did, but then I started lifting. I'm not sure where this is going yet, but I know I'm far from it.
So the moral of this story is that you will get out what you put in. Something is better than nothing, and work is work is work is work, but you can't expect 100% results with only 35% effort. The trick is to pick something that you enjoy doing AND that will get the results you want. If you're working at your goals, but you don't feel like you're getting there or getting there fast enough, take a look at what you're doing. Do a little black box experimentation.
Quote from: IZ on November 28, 2008, 02:43:13 PM
One guy in AZ just couldn't get it in his head that his calves were not going to grow unless he punished them (refer to Arnold's routine for calves).
Yeah, we all know how important that is. [popcorn]
Oh, and in case anyone thinks they're too old for moving some iron (or high density rubber)
http://current.com/items/89108776/seventyone_the_seven_decades_of_jose_postigo.htm (http://current.com/items/89108776/seventyone_the_seven_decades_of_jose_postigo.htm)
My workout is simple -
Run 4 miles in 30 min.....M,W,F
Lift weights T,TH, Sun. Nothing fancy - Squats, Bench, Pullups.
WoD Deadlift 3-3-3-3-3
CF warm up
185
205
225
245
265
1.5 mile warmup run (to the park)
3 sets 6 pullups 10 dips
1.5 mile cooldown run home
rain cancelled my swim lesson. i know, yer already wet, but the master says swimming in the ocean in the rain sucks. who am i to argue?
Did mostly yardwork last week-I was on "vacation" in New England helping my mother out, so no gym. Came back, went yesterday-this whole travel thing will be difficult to work into the workout schedule.
Down three pounds so far, and in much better shape.
Quote from: somebastid on November 30, 2008, 10:05:10 AM
Did mostly yardwork last week-I was on "vacation" in New England helping my mother out, so no gym. Came back, went yesterday-this whole travel thing will be difficult to work into the workout schedule.
Down three pounds so far, and in much better shape.
[thumbsup]
hows the back?
Quote from: IZ on November 30, 2008, 11:39:26 AM
[thumbsup]
hows the back?
Back neck and shoulders doing far better. Much much less pain, and some minor stiffness. Much better.
Bike still muckles me, but at least I'm getting back to normal.
Quote from: somebastid on November 30, 2008, 10:05:10 AMin New England helping my mother out, so no gym.
Wow, no gym's in New England? Bummer. [popcorn]
Push ups and sit ups in your bedroom?
I'm not joining a gym for a week, thankyouverymuch.
I work enough on my vacations, and instead of the push ups and situps, I caught the house up on around 2 years of yardwork. I ate like a pig and still lost weight, so, I worked enough.
Quote from: somebastid on November 30, 2008, 04:49:18 PM
I'm not joining a gym for a week, thankyouverymuch.
I work enough on my vacations, and instead of the push ups and situps, I caught the house up on around 2 years of yardwork. I ate like a pig and still lost weight, so, I worked enough.
yardwork is an excellent workout & you helped your mom [thumbsup]
Quote from: somebastid on November 30, 2008, 04:49:18 PM
I'm not joining a gym for a week, thankyouverymuch.
Alot of Gym's will let you workout for free for a couple of day's. I have done it numerous times.
Hard work does not replace exercise, ask anyone who works outside everyday. ;)
like all those fat framers and landscapers. slackers.
[roll]
rock on, s(g)b!
Quote from: kopfjager on November 30, 2008, 05:12:23 PM
Alot of Gym's will let you workout for free for a couple of day's. I have done it numerous times.
Hard work does not replace exercise, ask anyone who works outside everyday. ;)
Well.....one probably has to work out more often to maintain peak fitness.....
.....at your age.... [cheeky]
Quote from: tommys67 on November 20, 2008, 01:04:03 PM
Well, I'm super-late to this thread, but I can share a lot.
Couple of big themes; 1) I'm getting treated for Sleep Apnea 2) I'm seeing a personal trainer 3 times per week, and doing cardio work 2 or 3 more times per week (I'm in the gym M-F at LEAST) and 3) my goal is for cardio fitness and weight loss of about 70-75 lbs.
Thanks for letting me share!
Well, it's official, in less than 2 months I've lost over 20 pounds, have gained cardio fitness, and I'm due for new bloodwork (just to check it) next month.
Thanks again for letting me use this thread for semi-public humiliation and motivation! [thumbsup]
Quote from: tommys67 on November 30, 2008, 07:29:02 PM
Well, it's official, in less than 2 months I've lost over 20 pounds, have gained cardio fitness, and I'm due for new bloodwork (just to check it) next month.
Thanks again for letting me use this thread for semi-public humiliation and motivation! [thumbsup]
congrats!
Quote from: somebastid on November 30, 2008, 06:52:50 PM
Well.....one probably has to work out more often to maintain peak fitness.....
.....at your age.... [cheeky]
Hey...What the...Wait a Damn minute...uh...oh yeah. ;D
Quote from: tommys67 on November 30, 2008, 07:29:02 PM
Well, it's official, in less than 2 months I've lost over 20 pounds, have gained cardio fitness, and I'm due for new bloodwork (just to check it) next month.
Thanks again for letting me use this thread for semi-public humiliation and motivation! [thumbsup]
Awesome! [thumbsup] Keep it up!
WoD "Tabata Something Else"
Complete 32 intervals of 20 seconds of work followed by ten seconds of rest where the first 8 intervals are pull-ups, the second 8 are push-ups, the third 8 intervals are sit-ups, and finally, the last 8 intervals are squats. There is no rest between exercises.
First time doing this particular Tabata.
Pull-ups (jumping) 15x4 10x4
Push-ups 15x4 10x4
Sit-ups 15x2 10x6
Squats 15x8
I feel off the bandwagon Thursday - Sunday. I didn't overeat or over drink, just didn't get to work out due to driving all over and family crap. Tomorrow I am back to get fit.
I saw my nephew Kyle over the weekend who is a RAW power lifter for the Iowa State University Weight Club. Here is a Youtube of him and his team that I watched live a few months ago:
He is in the 165 lbs class
@ 1:40 he squats 418lb
@3:48 benches 218 (worst event)
@6:50 dead lifts 502
@7:09 dead lifts 524
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhUBwtcL2MA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhUBwtcL2MA)
Don't laugh at the spotters' mullets - it is old school lifting and older school gyms.
mitt
wow. to be more precise: deadlifts 524 lbs and places (not drops) the weight back down on the floor. good stuff!
i did a whole lot of nothing today. managed to not ride or go to the pool. go me!
WoD Shoulder Press 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-
135
145
150
155
160
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Quote from: elTristo on November 30, 2008, 08:25:48 PMdeadlifts 524 lbs and places (not drops) the weight back down on the floor.
That is the Rule in competitive Power Lifting.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 01, 2008, 11:26:57 PM
That is the Rule in competitive Power Lifting.
Outside of Olympics, apparently
Quote from: elTristo on December 01, 2008, 11:56:12 PM
Outside of Olympics, apparently
The Deadlift is not an Olympic lift. ;)
Quote from: kopfjager on December 02, 2008, 03:22:50 PM
The Deadlift is not an Olympic lift. ;)
hmm. i guess you're right. silly me.
I exercised for the first time in several weeks since i had over worked my bad knee.
It was rough, I'm beating a head cold and we went out in 50 windy weather.
Started with some jumping jacks, pushups, several types of crunches.
Then we ran, about 2 miles + or - and constant elevation changes.
I'm a little sore, tired and still sick....
Quote from: NAKID on December 02, 2008, 05:13:16 PM
I exercised for the first time in several weeks since i had over worked my bad knee.
It was rough, I'm beating a head cold and we went out in 50 windy weather.
Started with some jumping jacks, pushups, several types of crunches.
Then we ran, about 2 miles + or - and constant elevation changes.
I'm a little sore, tired and still sick....
Assuming your body already kicked the infection and it's just damaged tissue healing, working out may help you feel better faster. I know that when I was working out at the end of my cold/flu/whatever it was, my metcon sucked, but I did feel a thousand times better after working out.
Great work on getting back at it! [thumbsup]
I did feel better when I was done, but now I kinda feel like shit again.
Gonna try and get to bed earlier tonight and see if I feel better tomorrow.
I would like to get back out there tomorrow, but we have plans for cross training on Thursday...
I woke up with my back hurting in ways I haven't felt in years. I can only guess that I did something yesterday at the gym, but it felt fine there, and all day after. Now, not so good. Workout today: Lie on couch - 5 hours + 200 remote control curls.
Quote from: elTristo on December 02, 2008, 05:44:28 PM
I woke up with my back hurting in ways I haven't felt in years. I can only guess that I did something yesterday at the gym, but it felt fine there, and all day after. Now, not so good. Workout today: Lie on couch - 5 hours + 200 remote control curls.
What did you do to yourself? What was the workout?
It was a pretty light workout. 1 mile run to gym, 1k meter row, 4X10 deadlifts *very* light weight with 4X8 pullups, calf raises, then run /walk home.
felt fine during and all day after. I know deadlifts make it sound bad, but I only lifted 115 lbs.
poo.
Quote from: elTristo on December 02, 2008, 05:55:35 PM
It was a pretty light workout. 1 mile run to gym, 1k meter row, 4X10 deadlifts *very* light weight with 4X8 pullups, calf raises, then run /walk home.
felt fine during and all day after. I know deadlifts make it sound bad, but I only lifted 115 lbs.
poo.
How is your form on your DLs? 115 is enough to cause pain. The other culprit could be the erging, surprisingly enough. Got any vids of your form for either?
vids? me? [laugh]
but seriously, i've been doing these exercises for probably 4 years, and I stick to light weight because it better suits my needs. on the other hand, i'm happy to admit that i can make a mistake. the confusion comes from the time it took to show up. The last time I hurt my back I couldn't move up off of the floor.
oh - umm, what is erging?
Quote from: elTristo on December 02, 2008, 06:06:55 PM
vids? me? [laugh]
but seriously, i've been doing these exercises for probably 4 years, and I stick to light weight because it better suits my needs. on the other hand, i'm happy to admit that i can make a mistake. the confusion comes from the time it took to show up. The last time I hurt my back I couldn't move up off of the floor.
oh - umm, what is erging?
[laugh] Erging is "rowing" on a machine. Rowing is done on the water. Erging is done on a Concept2.
The whole form issue is a bit goofy. Perhaps getting a lifting coach for one session might help with any potential form issues. The main thing to remember for both DLing and erging to keep your lower back from getting too involved is to avoid butt wink.
Example of improper back form (among other issues, but that's not my point):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxfw1BW7gsc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxfw1BW7gsc)
All of these have pretty good back form, but a few have weird head/neck positions:
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_DeadliftIntro.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_DeadliftIntro.wmv)
I overcooked it a bit on DLs once, and I agree with you that I didn't feel any pain until a day or two later. It's super annoying. If you want any more suggestions of DL form vids, feel free to ask.
jah, i learned the deadlift from crossfit in like 2005. I've also had a trainer somewhat recently, which is why i say that i know the form, but it's possible i blew it at some point. it happens. i'm not perfect, and my therapist would be thrilled to hear me say that [cheeky]
anyway, thanks for the responses. it's good to see that you've had an experience where it took some time for the pain to set in as well. it may not sound good to anyone else, but to me it's just a little less likely that it happened in my sleep. i mean, i'm getting old, but not *that* old.
Quote from: elTristo on December 02, 2008, 07:01:53 PM
jah, i learned the deadlift from crossfit in like 2005. I've also had a trainer somewhat recently, which is why i say that i know the form, but it's possible i blew it at some point. it happens. i'm not perfect, and my therapist would be thrilled to hear me say that [cheeky]
anyway, thanks for the responses. it's good to see that you've had an experience where it took some time for the pain to set in as well. it may not sound good to anyone else, but to me it's just a little less likely that it happened in my sleep. i mean, i'm getting old, but not *that* old.
The only sign that I had was that my back felt... weak. I don't know how else to describe it. Just rest up and hit it again.
I don't know if this is a good sign, or a bad sign...
Tonight on the Spinning Bike in the gym...I practiced looking through turns and leaning off while spinning ;D
(for those who don't know - I sold my Monster in July. Hope to have a new bike in a few months. Yet ANOTHER reason to drop the pounds!)
Quote from: tommys67 on December 02, 2008, 07:39:58 PM
I don't know if this is a good sign, or a bad sign...
Tonight on the Spinning Bike in the gym...I practiced looking through turns and leaning off while spinning ;D
(for those who don't know - I sold my Monster in July. Hope to have a new bike in a few months. Yet ANOTHER reason to drop the pounds!)
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Handled much better, didn't it?
Quote from: tommys67 on December 02, 2008, 07:39:58 PM
I don't know if this is a good sign, or a bad sign...
Tonight on the Spinning Bike in the gym...I practiced looking through turns and leaning off while spinning ;D
(for those who don't know - I sold my Monster in July. Hope to have a new bike in a few months. Yet ANOTHER reason to drop the pounds!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs4aBVfbumw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs4aBVfbumw)
Quote from: tommys67 on December 02, 2008, 07:39:58 PM
I don't know if this is a good sign, or a bad sign...
Tonight on the Spinning Bike in the gym...I practiced looking through turns and leaning off while spinning ;D
(for those who don't know - I sold my Monster in July. Hope to have a new bike in a few months. Yet ANOTHER reason to drop the pounds!)
i do that in the car, but never tried it on a spinning bike [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
keep at it tommys67 [moto]
I did 20 miles on the road bike today.... Turns out 48 degrees is not as warm as I thought! [thumbsup] Not sure if it was the cold but the tires felt a little loose in the corners ;D
WoD "Fran" Three rounds of 21-15-9 for time 95lb Thruster All pu's were jumping 6:15
Pull-ups
just an easy hour on the bike, nursing a sore back. :(
Now, here's something I REALLY don't get at all. I can't do a pull up. That's not surprising. However, I can do 2 Kipping pull ups on "the crutch", which is the teeny tiny assistance band. My negatives are super slow. I can hold myself at the top for a really long time. Underhand is more difficult for me than overhand, which is quite uncommon. But why can't I get even close to just one lousy Kipping pull up? It makes no sense at all.
3/3 for me. Yesterday was kinda just whatever I felt like doing. Did about 25 minutes on the eliptical, then a couple sets of alternating pushups and situps. Felt like doing a little more so I did a couple altenating sets of bicep and tricep curls on the machines.
Today, we (my IDC class) went to the base gym which has some personal trainers. They host a cross training class there several times a week. They are affectionately know as the "bendy chicks" and I'm sure you can guess why!
That was 45 mins of straight cross training and it kicked my ass. More than it has in the past....
Painting my daughter's room & closet was my workout today. Last night was 1 hour swimming laps and the night before was weights [thumbsup]
mitt
Quote from: Ducatista on December 04, 2008, 01:44:22 PM
Now, here's something I REALLY don't get at all. I can't do a pull up. That's not surprising. However, I can do 2 Kipping pull ups on "the crutch", which is the teeny tiny assistance band. My negatives are super slow. I can hold myself at the top for a really long time. Underhand is more difficult for me than overhand, which is quite uncommon. But why can't I get even close to just one lousy Kipping pull up? It makes no sense at all.
I've been stuck at 6-8 pullups for.... years. I do them in sets, then a few more sets of negatives to complete failure. Still only get 6-8 real ones in though. There's gotta be something we're missing.
Quote from: elTristo on December 04, 2008, 11:16:15 PM
I've been stuck at 6-8 pullups for.... years. I do them in sets, then a few more sets of negatives to complete failure. Still only get 6-8 real ones in though. There's gotta be something we're missing.
Upper body strength? ;D
No idea-no matter how out of shape I am, I can typically do half a dozen with no issue. I like to them on the molding over the doorways-you know-that tiny little bit? Gives one strong fingers, too.
If you get stuck on improving on a particular exercise, try doing a slightly different exercise for a while instead. Instead of bench presses, do dips. Instead of pull-ups, try chin-ups. Or bent-over rows.
Also with pull-ups, I think it's good to keep doing them with a spot after you can't do them anymore unassisted. I can only do about 2 unassisted myself (although I have tried them with climbing grips...now that is challenging). I've not really been working on it though.
One thing I really like about pull-ups is that you can spot yourself with a chair (or with a friend). Keep your legs bent, put your ankles/shins on the back of a chair, or using your spotter, and extend your legs to assist yourself. I like this much better than the assisted pull-up machines that use counter-weighting.
I found a cool website.
www.fitday.com (http://www.fitday.com)
you can track what you eat, weight, activity level and other cool shit.
turns out I'm not eating enough. go figure
WoD
For time
100 squats
2 muscle-ups subbed 3 pu/3 dips for m-ups 12:45
80 squats
4 muscle-ups
60 squats
6 muscle-ups
40 squats
8 muscle- ups
20 squats
10 squats
What's a muscle-up?
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_MuscleUps.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_MuscleUps.wmv)
time to goto the gym befor football starts.
gonna go work my ass of, so i can go drink beer?
Hey IZ, how comes the behind-the-back claps?
I tried them yesterday at work and was able to get 5 out.
I think I might've been able to get a 6th, but I was on concrete and didn't want to risk busting my face up. ;)
We had a guy in boot camp try doing those. Nobody liked him, so we all encouraged it. Face full of tile and a compartment full of laughing recruits.
Quote from: Rameses on December 06, 2008, 03:21:26 PM
Hey IZ, how comes the behind-the-back claps?
I tried them yesterday at work and was able to get 5 out.
I think I might've been able to get a 6th, but I was on concrete and didn't want to risk busting my face up. ;)
Thanks for asking Rams.
Well, you're doing about 5 more than I can do..still!! :-\ I just can't get my arms behind my back yet!!
I've been doing a lot of stretching and a new push-up routine, that includes..
*50-100 clappers (half clapping in front of body and then half clapping on hips)
*20 push-ups where I hop my entire body forward. I start at one end of the gym and try to get further each workout.
*50 push-ups with one hand on a volley ball-sized medicine ball and one hand on the floor (25 each arm).
*50-100 alternating regular push-ups with push-ups where I "hop" my upper body up 6' to a set of 45 lb. laterally placed rubberized weights.
This workout has been awesome for getting a good pump!! The striations in the triceps and vascularity in the chest really shows after!!
Even if I don't get the behind-the-back clappers, I'm really fired up about a new push-up routine!! [thumbsup]
WoD
Complete as many rounds in twenty minutes as you can of: Me
15 Pull-ups Jumping pull-ups
15 Ring push-ups Reg push-ups
15 Back Extensions Back Extensions
15 GHD Sit-ups GHD Sit-ups
6 rounds 19:38
Not bad Kop.
BTW..that woman's legs in the vid clip were pretty big! I wish the gym had a rope. [roll] Also, a set of rings!! I'd try the above workout but I need some rings. :-\
http://crossfitsierra.typepad.com/exercises/ (http://crossfitsierra.typepad.com/exercises/)
OK..I just watched a demo of the ring push-ups .^^ I didn't know what the exercises were that you were referring to? IMO..I don't think the use of legs should count. I'm all about form. That's a demo of bad form! If you're going to do a dip..do it right!! I guess I should try them on a set of those rings though first, huh?!
Anyway..I'm going to substitute the ring dips for dips on a stationary dips stand. I have the benches for the back ext. & GHD sit-ups and of course the pull-up bars. Let's see how Iz do on your workout this week!! :-*
I just put out 200 road miles last week on the bicycle. And about 150 the week before. Being laid off has it's advantages! I have a weekly Friday feature on my blog that shows me riding my rollers. The idea is to watch me shrink down to nothing in preparation for the 2009 racing season. Here is last Fridays pic. I havnt been out much on the moto. Can you tell. LOL!
(http://johnkrawczyk.powweb.com//Fatguy_Roller_POTW_20081205_1024X768.jpg)
John, laid off? did I miss this? holy shit.
And you are shrinking fast, man. you going to want those 32" leathers back?
Getting laid off was no big deal. Finding a job? Probably. I didnt want to make a big whinny deal about it. Right now my situation is not bad.
I dont think I'll need those pants back just yet.
I wore them this season but the end was more comfortable than the beginning. Just let me know.
I sort of knew what you did with the pool place, but send me a PM...I'll put out feelers if you want.
Quote from: Statler on December 08, 2008, 05:25:19 PM
I wore them this season but the end was more comfortable than the beginning. Just let me know.
I sort of knew what you did with the pool place, but send me a PM...I'll put out feelers if you want.
Will do. I'm waiting to get my professionally written resume to arrive shortly. In the mean time I'm chillin and waiting for a situation I initiated to take fruit. So far it looks pretty damn promising. They just need to come up with the budget to be able to bring me on board.
going to hang some rings under the deck.
Spring shall be muscle ups.
faaack.
^^^^ Don't wait till spring. Start the suffering now. ;)
The trying starts tomorrow.
When I started pullups I could do two.
Now it's three sets of twelve.
And I have lats (wife says thanks).
Time to move up a notch.
WoD Clean and Jerk 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 reps
I did the CF warm up
3 rounds of 10-15 reps of
Samson Stretch (do the Samson Stretch once each round for 15-30 seconds)
Overhead Squat with broomstick
Sit-up
Back-extension
Pull-up
Dip
I did technique drills for the
Hang Clean
Clean
Clean & Jerk
Argh!! Wacked the back of my index finger really good today on the edge of the squat rack as I was jumping up to do my first set of pull-ups. [bang]
Sucker ballooned, up turned blue and bled all over the inside of my glove.
Ended up doing a light routine. [roll]
Good news..I did find out that there is a ropes/confidence course & tower near the track! Wasn't I just saiying I didn't have access to a climbiing rope?! [thumbsup]
Quote from: IZ on December 08, 2008, 07:44:56 PMbled all over the inside of my glove.
Good news..I did find out that there is a ropes/confidence course & tower near the track! Wasn't I just saiying I didn't have access to a climbiing rope?! [thumbsup]
Gloves....you don't need no stinkin gloves.
Good find on the ropes. [thumbsup]
Quote from: kopfjager on December 08, 2008, 08:06:05 PM
Gloves....you don't need no stinkin gloves.
Good find on the ropes. [thumbsup]
These have power straps built into the gloves for dumbells and upright rows. [thumbsup]
If you can't lift it unaided it don't count. [thumbsup]
Quote from: kopfjager on December 08, 2008, 08:46:01 PM
If you can't lift it unaided it don't count. [thumbsup]
+1.
went out to run, got about 2 miles in before the knee got ornery.
let's count, shall we?
bad back? check!
bum knee? check!
next!
:P
Quote from: elTristo on December 08, 2008, 09:19:09 PM
went out to run, got about 2 miles in before the knee got ornery.
let's count, shall we?
bad back? check!
bum knee? check!
next!
:P
Have you considered rowing? Nice, low impact rowing?
Back in the day. ;)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/beach.jpg)
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 08, 2008, 09:38:27 PM
Have you considered rowing? Nice, low impact rowing?
i do the ol' concept 2 maybe once a week. but it doesn't go far enough toward my triathlon dreams.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 08, 2008, 10:23:14 PM
Back in the day. ;)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/beach.jpg)
wow. seriously? cool!
Quote from: kopfjager on December 08, 2008, 08:46:01 PM
If you can't lift it unaided it don't count. [thumbsup]
That's ridiculous!
If I'm doing exercises that would help me grip the weights or squeeze out a few more reps (good reps too btw), i.e.: shoulder shrugs, hanging leg raises, etc. then I'm going ot use them. The MAIN reason though is ..safety!! I've seen too many dipshits drop weights! [roll]
BTW..nice sweater! Is that your daughter standing next to you?
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;D
^^ If you can't hold the weight with your own hand strength, it is cheating, plan and simple. [thumbsup]
Quote from: elTristo on December 08, 2008, 09:19:09 PM
went out to run, got about 2 miles in before the knee got ornery.
let's count, shall we?
Oh come on, I run:
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/JoshFan1980a/For%20Sara%20and%20others/Christopher/Break.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/JoshFan1980a/For%20Sara%20and%20others/Christopher/Knee.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/JoshFan1980a/For%20Sara%20and%20others/Christopher/PosteriorTibia.jpg)
;D
Anyway, unfortunately I took the last few days off. But today got back into it. Did a few sets of situps then pushups, then spent 20 mins (low speed) 1.6 miles on the eliptical, 10mins forward, 10mins backwards. After that hopped on the treadmill and ran for another 10mins 0.8 miles. I started on the eliptical to get some good low/no impact for the knee, but it doesn't feel the same as running. Since I don't do my Physical Fitness Assessments on the eliptical, I need to work up a little more towards running.
But, I am down about 5 pounds since last week. That is probably mostly due to diet. I have been eating less for lunch and stacking healthier (fresh broccoli florettes and sliced peppers)....
^^^ Usted es el Hombre. [thumbsup]
Quote from: kopfjager on December 09, 2008, 02:49:14 PM
^^ If you can't hold the weight with your own hand strength, it is cheating, plan and simple. [thumbsup]
No problems holding the weight. Like I said..safety! 20-30 reps on shrug days..I'm going to protect my feet and those of others just in case!
oh shit.
muscle ups are going to take some time.
damn.
off to do more pullups and ring dips. That transition is going to be a pregnant dog.
new goal. Now I'm pissed and motivated.
Quote from: Statler on December 09, 2008, 08:19:06 PM
oh shit.
muscle ups are going to take some time.
damn.
off to do more pullups and ring dips. That transition is going to be a pregnant dog.
new goal. Now I'm pissed and motivated.
I got a bottle of tequila says you can't do 10 muscle ups straight by February. You're too old.
The gauntlet has been thrown down.
*GASP*
:o
gasp indeed! i'll be impressed.
Ok, so what's a muscle up? I've not heard that term before.
I've been working on upper body, tricep pushups, regular pushups, curls, shoulder presses etc. I've also been stretching extensively. If you're flexible, it hurts a lot less when you throw down a bike or motorcycle ~
JM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on December 10, 2008, 05:02:06 AM
Ok, so what's a muscle up? I've not heard that term before.
JM
look at youtube..several videos
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 09, 2008, 08:53:45 PM
I got a bottle of tequila says you can't do 10 muscle ups straight by February. You're too old.
The gauntlet has been thrown down.
meh..can't swing a cat around here without hitting a bottle of tequila...but one more can't hurt right?
(But can I have until the 22nd? Then I'll be even older).
hey wait....didn't you just sing the praises of a BMW GS, someoldguy?
Well, hit the gym again today. Did the same thing as yesterday, just upped the speed on the elliptical and the treadmill, so I ended up covering a greater distance in the same amount of time. Also increased the reps on the pushups and situps....
i've been hitting the gym after work 3-4 times a week for cardio and some ab work.
the scale hasn't changed, but my clothes are getting looser.
i hate that it takes so long to get results...
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on December 11, 2008, 04:08:43 AM
i've been hitting the gym after work 3-4 times a week for cardio and some ab work.
the scale hasn't changed, but my clothes are getting looser.
i hate that it takes so long to get results...
I've been doing that for a year now.
I feel like I have gotten no where. Every time I look at the scale, it seems like nothing has changed.
However I found a peice of paper w/ my weight and size on it from last year.
I've gone from ~280 to ~235.
From a 40" pant size to a 36-34".
I really didn't notice a change myself. It has been slow.
But I saw a bunch of people that I haven't seen in a year this week. They all noticed right away.
Just keep going.
Quote from: wbeck257 on December 11, 2008, 04:57:53 AM
I've been doing that for a year now.
I feel like I have gotten no where. Every time I look at the scale, it seems like nothing has changed.
However I found a peice of paper w/ my weight and size on it from last year.
I've gone from ~280 to ~235.
From a 40" pant size to a 36-34".
I really didn't notice a change myself. It has been slow.
But I saw a bunch of people that I haven't seen in a year this week. They all noticed right away.
Just keep going.
That's kind of cool - putting it in writing so you don't forget.
mitt
WoD Me
Three rounds for time of: Three rounds
24" Box jump, 50 reps 14" Box jump, 50 reps
185 pound Deadlift, 21 reps 165lb Deadlift, 21 reps
30 Pull-ups 30 Pull-ups, All jumping 30:32
Gym today. Trying to build pullup with non-pullup exercise. Tired myself out enough that i couldn't manage the mile run home and walked half of it.
Down to 16% bodyfat (as read by my scale. it may not be perfect, but it should be consistently imperfect) and 158 lb (ugh).
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on December 11, 2008, 04:08:43 AM
i've been hitting the gym after work 3-4 times a week for cardio and some ab work.
the scale hasn't changed, but my clothes are getting looser.
i hate that it takes so long to get results...
Just keep in mind that most body composition changes beyond a certain point are made with changes in nutrition. A fellow female CFer says, "Six pack abs are made in the kitchen." You can't outrun the wrong dietary choices.
Quote from: Ducatista on December 14, 2008, 04:55:41 PM
You can't outrun the wrong dietary choices.
We'll see about that.
Well, I did my first 2 pull ups yesterday. My kip is weak, so it was more like a 1/3 kip and the rest was me hauling my ass over the bar. Then I did it again. I can't do 2 in a row. I did them on Thursday and Saturday.
Saturday I did a workout called Fight Gone Bad. My total was 209 and the only scaled portion was I threw an 8 lb med ball.
Here's a video explaining the idea behind FGB.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.mov (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.mov)
Oh, and I made my box's website. www.crossfitlorton.com That wasn't a photo from FGB. That was earlier in the week when I was warming up for a heavy overhead press set.
Oh, and Kop, never ignore the benefits of ring push ups! Traditional push ups don't hold a candle to ring push ups. It's kind of like the difference between using a Smith machine v. a barbell. You lose out on all the stabilizer work.
^^^^
Good job on FGB. [thumbsup]
I'm now 20 lbs shy of a body weight back squat. YAY!!! I thought it would take me much longer to get to this point, but I rocked a 133 today. I thought I'd only get a PR by 5 lbs after Saturday's FGB burnout, but I was lifting with a beastly partner. Elizabeth is strong like ox!
Oh, and Kop, you'll appreciate this one. I was cursing at my coach on the inside, since today's WOD for us was 20 SDHP and 20 box jumps, 4 FRIGGIN' ROUNDS. GAH!!! Why do that 2 days after FGB? Just because he likes to torture us?
^^^^
Good job [thumbsup]
Yeah, I think they like the torture. I don't go to a CF box, so I yell at the computer alot. ;D
Oh yeah, WoD Me
Five rounds for time of: Five rounds
275 pound Deadlift, 5 reps 205lb Deadlift, 5 reps
10 Burpees 10 Burpees 15:36
Yeah today I RTIV. +25
Then I JTTG. +10
And then LWUMAE. +35
Then RBTMAAAABB. +10
Quote from: wbeck257 on December 15, 2008, 05:48:45 PM
Yeah today I RTIV. +25
Then I JTTG. +10
And then LWUMAE. +35
Then RBTMAAAABB. +10
Okay, now you guys are just making words up.
Quote from: wbeck257 on December 15, 2008, 05:48:45 PM
Yeah today I RTIV. +25
Then I JTTG. +10
And then LWUMAE. +35
Then RBTMAAAABB. +10
WTF is that?
Quote from: wbeck257 on December 15, 2008, 05:48:45 PM
Yeah today I RTIV. +25
Then I JTTG. +10
And then LWUMAE. +35
Then RBTMAAAABB. +10
Lemme give it a shot:
Today I Ran Till I Vomited.
Then Ran Back To My Apartment And Ate A Big Breakfast.
On the middle two, yeah, I got nothin.
Quote from: Obsessed? on December 15, 2008, 06:02:57 PM
Lemme give it a shot:
Today I Ran Till I Vomited.
Then Ran Back To My Apartment And Ate A Big Breakfast.
On the middle two, yeah, I got nothin.
JTTG might be Jogged To The Gym, but I wouldn't do that after puking.
I couldn't figure out what the G might have been, but I think you're on to something. [thumbsup]
Then I Jogged To The Gym.
And then Lifted Weights Until My Arms Exploded. [thumbsup]
Ok , what about the #'s
No effin' clue, unless they're times.
25 minutes into the run he vomited.
10 minutes to jog to the gym.
Lifted weights for 35 minutes.
Then ran home in another 10 minutes?
DMF Translation Services! [clap] [laugh]
We could be completely off!
But it makes sense, right?
make sense to me. [thumbsup]
[popcorn]
30 mins/3 miles on the elliptical level 10-15.... burned 475 calories
[laugh]
Nice translating Obsessed!
I'm in the Navy.
I'm fluent in Acronym. [thumbsup]
Aint that the truth!
Down 12 lbs in the last 6 weeks. I'm sitting at 203 right now. 28 more to go by April 1, just in time for the spring road races. Fall flew right by. The first training races are 8 weeks away. Lucky for me they're on board flat crit courses, so if I'm 188ish by then, I'm golden.
I checked my training log and I've managed 850 miles in the last 6 week. Unfortunately I've got zero miles on the Duc in the same time frame.
Quote from: wbeck257 on December 15, 2008, 05:48:45 PM
Yeah today I RTIV. +25
Then I JTTG. +10
And then LWUMAE. +35
Then RBTMAAAABB. +10
Dear god -- y`all got it pretty good.
RTIV - Ran till I vomited.
JTTG - Jogged to the gym.
LWUMAE - Lifted weights until my arms exploded.
RBTMAAAABB - Ran back to my apartment and ate a breakfast burito.
I'll have to think of a more challengeing one tonight...
Quote from: wbeck257 on December 16, 2008, 04:35:03 AM
Dear god -- y`all got it pretty good.
RTIV - Ran till I vomited.
JTTG - Jogged to the gym.
LWUMAE - Lifted weights until my arms exploded.
RBTMAAAABB - Ran back to my apartment and ate a breakfast burito.
I'll have to think of a more challengeing one tonight...
More challenging workout, I hope. ;)
Quote from: FatguyRacer on December 15, 2008, 08:39:56 PM
Down 12 lbs in the last 6 weeks. I'm sitting at 203 right now. 28 more to go by April 1, just in time for the spring road races. Fall flew right by. The first training races are 8 weeks away. Lucky for me they're on board flat crit courses, so if I'm 188ish by then, I'm golden.
I checked my training log and I've managed 850 miles in the last 6 week. Unfortunately I've got zero miles on the Duc in the same time frame.
Good Stuff FatguyRacer! That is awesome! I did 20 road miles yesterday and 45min spin today. I really need to get some lifting in there.
well...I think I'm rejoining a gym downtown. (quit when we had daughter and went to equipment in basement).
I've been good, but I have a problem where if I get done in Court at say 3 pm and don't pick my daughter up until 5, I don't have enough time to drive home 45 minutes to workout and then back to get her (right next to the gym). And I'm burnt from Court so I'm not going to do more work that day.... so I go hide from all the miserable people at my favorite bar (where I'm friends with the owner).
I may browse the DMF by phone, or leaf through some files....
But the couple thousand calories in beer a week aren't helping the plan.
So I am going to try hiding at the gym for a few hours instead.
Pricey, but potentially worth it.
Since I maintain or get slightly fitter each week so far with the current routine (haven't slid backwards yet)...cutting out the bar and adding more workout should be very good.
(I've written and deleted this post for a week now...but owning up to it, even to strangers, gives some motivation. Got to get mad at myself a little).
Quote from: kopfjager on December 16, 2008, 11:35:07 AM
More challenging workout, I hope. ;)
Yeah, I'm going to ride my bicycle to the DucShop and then benchpress your bike 10 times. ;D
Quote from: wbeck257 on December 16, 2008, 12:03:17 PM
Yeah, I'm going to ride my bicycle to the DucShop and then benchpress your bike 10 times. ;D
[laugh] Don't forget to chalk up, I don't want you to drop it. [thumbsup]
Had to do a quick workout today, so I did about 2.1 miles in 20 mins, started at level 10, worked up to 15....
Office party today, so a bit drunkled to work out. [drink]
WoD Me
Split Jerk 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 reps CF warmup x3
Burgener warmup
Dumbell Split Jerk drills (working on form)
Waiter walk 55lb
I totally slacked yesterday and today. Work and buying a house are getting in the way.
I may just start getting up earlier and running-there is no excuse for not finding time.
Quoted for posterity? :P
Quote from: RodeoClown on December 16, 2008, 11:40:51 AM
Good Stuff FatguyRacer! That is awesome! I did 20 road miles yesterday and 45min spin today. I really need to get some lifting in there.
I have a lifting routine I've been working in 1 or 2x a week. The squats and dead lifts have been helping to strenghten my joints and connective tissues in my knees. Totally worth the extra effort. I can feel the difference on long climbs and short steep one where I have to power out of the saddle.
Quote from: Ducatista on December 16, 2008, 03:08:08 PM
Office party today, so a bit drunkled to work out. [drink]
dont make me post the pic of me drinking beer and riding rollers. [laugh]
Well, I didn't make it to the DucShop to bench someones bike, but;
I did get 26 miles on the road bike before it got way too make the beast with two backsing dark (no lights :().
Then lifted for about 30 minutes before I had to get back to the apartment.
(And I think pushing the MT175 back to my apartment when it died helped too..)
Quote from: FatguyRacer on December 16, 2008, 08:00:41 PM
dont make me post the pic of me drinking beer and riding rollers. [laugh]
See now you've made it necessary that you post that pic!
Quote from: Ducatista on December 17, 2008, 05:07:57 AM
See now you've made it necessary that you post that pic!
There's one floating around here somewhere. I think maybe over in the bicycle thread.
edit:
I can't find it.....maybe I saw it on his blog. :-\
No, I'm pretty sure you're right, I remember seeing it on here, I was thinking bicycle thread too...
JM
Both wrong.
Official Drunk Thread.
(http://johnkrawczyk.powweb.com//Fatguy_Roller_POTW_20081114_02.jpg)
Maybe you two need to spend some more time over there. ;D
I figure five miles is worth a shot of tequila. Usually I run 3 to 4 so that can be motivation. We need an I'm drunk but fitter thread.
Quote from: Statler on December 17, 2008, 07:04:07 AM
I figure five miles is worth a shot of tequila. Usually I run 3 to 4 so that can be motivation. We need an I'm drunk but fitter thread.
Better that then a drunk but fatter thread!
As for me getting fit, I've kinda spent the last week packing on a few quick pounds.
A few of us from the shop are having a "Biggest Loser over the Holiday Break" contest.
I plan to spend a lot of time at the gym, which is about 300 yards from my front door.
Matter of fact, I'm going to head over there now. I'll be back after lunch.
"Before" weigh in was yesterday. 235 lbs in street clothes. Ugh.
Quote from: Obsessed? on December 17, 2008, 07:08:27 AM
As for me getting fit, I've kinda spent the last week packing on a few quick pounds.
A few of us from the shop are having a "Biggest Loser over the Holiday Break" contest.
I plan to spend a lot of time at the gym, which is about 300 yards from my front door.
Matter of fact, I'm going to head over there now. I'll be back after lunch.
"Before" weigh in was yesterday. 235 lbs in street clothes. Ugh.
weren't you the tall skinny guy at DIMBY? could have been the tequila goggles.
I think that was ML, with the Trumpet.
Quote from: Obsessed? on December 17, 2008, 07:14:39 AM
I think that was ML, with the Trumpet.
not THAT tall. I can't believe he fit on my bike at all for the ride.
at 235 I expect you to be able to rip your own reflectors off next time though.
So if my office paperwork clears out in time it looks like day two at gyn instead of bar for me today.
I get up around 5:00 a.m. to ride my bicycle for an hour. It's been so cold these recent mornings. Mornings are great though. No traffic and very quiet. I'm seeing less deer so going downhill is more fun (but cold).
Last summer I started to feel sick when I ate junk. Type II diabetes is very common in my family. Since August, I have been good about not overeating junk, no snacking between meals, and eat only three meal/day. I feel better and have lost one clothes size. I'm also less cranky at work. I am still a little cranky though. I do have a reputation to keep.
Quote from: Statler on December 17, 2008, 07:40:06 AM
not THAT tall. I can't believe he fit on my bike at all for the ride.
at 235 I expect you to be able to rip your own reflectors off next time though.
So if my office paperwork clears out in time it looks like day two at gyn instead of bar for me today.
If I'd known the technique was that simple, I'd have gotten rid of them long before DIMBY.
As it stands, I'm proud of the fact that my bike's reflectorectomy was performed by two of the Flounders. ;D
WoD Me
Complete as many rounds in twenty minutes as you can of: CF Warm up x2
Run 400 meters Run 400m
15 L-Pull-ups 15 knees to elbows
15 Hip Extensions 15 Hip Extensions
4 sets/plus 55m
Snatch drills w/pvc pipe (working on form)
Been riding the bike to work every day. Today I finally had the idea that I could hit the gym before I leave, so I did. I was all hopped up on caffeine, did a little lifting, then flew home through muddy rainy roads. Fenders weren't mounted so my face, glasses, but, etc were getting smacked with muddy water. It felt great. When I got home I was still jumping.
I gotta say it was a good day.
Great thread, bikers have to stay fit 8)
I have been playing soccer for the last month once a week for an hour and a half and doing pushups in the morning 2x 40. The results are there after only a month, let's see how long I last ;)
ahhh. how do you get a 6pack to show with out sacraficing food? i need to get back to training...
Did a 5k on Wednesday. Varied elevation (read some VERY steep, log hills) and ran it in an unimpressive 31:48. Probably not too bad considering it was raining and 35 degrees out....
WoD
Four rounds, each for time of:
800 meter run
Rest as needed between efforts.
1- 3:50
2- 3:40
3- 3:25 5min rest between efforts
4- 3:22
I gained a little weight back over thanksgiving (stressing and eating too much). Blah.
So I cut back my portion sizes to what they need to be and lost it again with the help of running around airports, the mile long route to and from my office that I walk everyday.
Back down to 128 as of tonite. Still hoping to get down to about 118 but that will take some more exercising rather than my easy solution of just cutting calories.
My traps are still freakin' sore from Friday. I haven't been this sore since I started! The workout was 20 hang power cleans and 20 kettlebell cleans (10 R+L) for 4 rounds. When I walked in and saw it on the board, I asked someone from the previous session how bad it was. He said it wasn't really bad at all. Then Steve, my coach, walks over and says, "Not so fast." I normally hang power clean 53 lbs in a workout (when doing strength work, I go up to 78 for full cleans) and I'll clean the 12 kg kettlebell. Steve informed me that I was going to do this at the prescribed weight for the hang power cleans, at 63 lbs, and do the kettlebell cleans above the prescribed weight, at 16 kg.
My point of failure was grip strength. I never got winded, though I was sweating like a... well, a lot. But the thing that was causing all the breaks was grip. I was using enough chalk, but my hands just weren't cutting it.
Throughout the workout, Steve kept on yelling at me "BIG SHRUG!!! BIG SHRUG!!!" I think that my traps are now telling me that I got that point down!
I know tomorrow's workout is going to be long and brutal. He already said that this week's workouts are going to be looooong. Then I have a week "off" and I'll try to drop by the box in Jackson while down visiting Stillie's family.
^^^^^ Gettin strong Girl. [thumbsup] Good job.
WoD Me
"Cindy"
Complete as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of:
5 Pull-ups 3 Pull-ups
10 Push-ups 6 Push-ups
15 Squats 9 Squats 22 sets 19:46
Quote from: kopfjager on December 21, 2008, 05:25:38 PM
^^^^^ Gettin strong Girl. [thumbsup] Good job.
WoD Me
"Cindy"
Complete as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of:
5 Pull-ups 3 Pull-ups
10 Push-ups 6 Push-ups
15 Squats 9 Squats 22 sets 19:46
Last time I did Cindy, I did the full numbers, but knees and the small assistance band. 13 stinkin' rounds. How the hell do people get 20 rounds?
Quote from: Ducatista on December 21, 2008, 06:11:36 PM
Last time I did Cindy, I did the full numbers, but knees and the small assistance band. 13 stinkin' rounds. How the hell do people get 20 rounds?
Is it the pull ups that make you stop at 13? thats what usually kills my time.
Quote from: He Man on December 21, 2008, 06:30:58 PM
Is it the pull ups that make you stop at 13? thats what usually kills my time.
BINGO!!!
XC skiing today, -5F and 30mph winds = -30F windchill. It wasn't even fun. Hopefully it will warm up to around 10 or so this week so I can go again.
mitt
Dont use a assistanted pullup band/machine. get someone to nudge you so you are always at 100% effort no matter what. Basically, if you can do ~12 pull ups, your strong enough to do 20 pull ups, you just need to work on endurance. Form is the most important too. Palms out is the one you should be doing. Workout those lats! Resistance bands!!! I love em, they will deifntely help you build up those pull up numbers.
Cindy sucks, but i never timed myself, and we always did it after a 3-5 mile run (and crunches instead of squats). I think i threw up the first few times i did it. [puke]
Quote from: He Man on December 21, 2008, 06:48:14 PM
Dont use a assistanted pullup band/machine. get someone to nudge you so you are always at 100% effort no matter what. Basically, if you can do ~12 pull ups, your strong enough to do 20 pull ups, you just need to work on endurance. Form is the most important too. Palms out is the one you should be doing. Workout those lats! Resistance bands!!! I love em, they will deifntely help you build up those pull up numbers.
Cindy sucks, but i never timed myself, and we always did it after a 3-5 mile run (and crunches instead of squats). I think i threw up the first few times i did it. [puke]
Training with only a pronated grip has given me tendinitis in both shoulders. Surprisingly enough, my body is backwards. Using a supinated grip is MORE difficult for me. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to kip with a supinated grip. I can do a really modified weak kip with a supinated grip, but I'm still able to get 5 and 5 as part of my warm up. Those second 5 are a bear, though. Even in my first set, the last one is hard to get.
Using my current training method, I've been able to get from nothing to 2 unassisted, but I'm having to take a step back to avoid injury. I believe that training with a supinated grip will make using a pronated grip easier once my shoulders are back to 100%. Once I get to that point, I'll switch it up between pronated, supinated, and mixed. My biceps are still pretty weak, since I nailed the whole concept of hip extension and getting big shrugs. I don't rely on my arms for much. Hopefully training using a supinated grip for pull ups will fix that. I'll give your hint a try, though, once I'm fully functional. My test is whether I can shift my STi into 6th gear without discomfort.
I was surprised that the hang power cleans didn't bother the tendinitis. I guess I was doing them right after all. ;D
:( tendinitis sucks. I always heard people tell me, working out mildly during injrury is okay, but when it comes to tendintis, just stop. I had it in my left knee and tried to power through it. Sadly, it left me unable to run for about 3 months.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ddvpfUB1jU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ddvpfUB1jU)
thats what the girls did in place of pull ups. A lot harder then it looks! i think max points was 2 minutes.
We all used to say it was easy until we tried it. You get jello arms after the first try Hope this stuff helps.
hope you heal up fast!
Quote from: He Man on December 21, 2008, 07:30:54 PM
:( tendinitis sucks. I always heard people tell me, working out mildly during injrury is okay, but when it comes to tendintis, just stop. I had it in my left knee and tried to power through it. Sadly, it left me unable to run for about 3 months.
thats what the girls did in place of pull ups. A lot harder then it looks! i think max points was 2 minutes.
We all used to say it was easy until we tried it. You get jello arms after the first try Hope this stuff helps.
hope you heal up fast!
I thought I'd try a supinated grip for one workout and if the pain did not lessen, I would do something else. Well, the pain lessened, so I guess it eased the strain. I'm a fan of the black box method.
I haven't timed myself for a hang at the top. I'll give it a go once my shoulders get better.
And for the rest of the masses, don't do what I did! If you're going to hit the pull ups hard, particularly if you're over 30% body fat (like me), please switch your grip up on every set between pronated, supinated, and mixed (both directions). My injury was because of me thinking my body could do something it could not ultimately do over time. Retreat, retool, and retry.
There was a link to a blog that had a Russian power lifting routine. 5 sets x 5 reps of Squat, Bench and Dead lift. Nothing else. Thanks whoever posted it. I started it today. Bench and Squats today. Dead lift tomorrow. The plan is brilliant in it's simplicity. It's exactly what I need. Short and sweet. Work as many muscle groups as possible with the least amount of exercises, leaving me more time to be on the bicycle.
In 2 weeks time I report back if it really is brilliant.
Quote from: Ducatista on December 21, 2008, 06:11:36 PM
Last time I did Cindy, I did the full numbers, but knees and the small assistance band. 13 stinkin' rounds. How the hell do people get 20 rounds?
The record from CF Kids is 39 rounds.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 21, 2008, 08:09:34 PM
The record from CF Kids is 39 rounds.
Yeah. No thank you. I'll keep on working up to my dream of 20 as Rx'd.
I just found this thread and I think it is a great way to keep each other motivated. A little about my goal, I'm trying to get back into body building, though I workout 4-5 times a week for the last year and a half. I've been working out since I was 13 but the diet has been my weak point, my wife is a great cook and loves to bake cakes....darn... ;) So far I'm on your standard workout split but my key is 4 sets of 15 reps at 65% of my one rep max. If you guys have any questions with your routine, i'll be more than happy to assist! Also remember, REST is just as important as the workout so try not to over-train your muscles.
A
Quote from: bulldogs2k on December 22, 2008, 10:11:52 AM
I just found this thread and I think it is a great way to keep each other motivated. A little about my goal, I'm trying to get back into body building, though I workout 4-5 times a week for the last year and a half. I've been working out since I was 13 but the diet has been my weak point, my wife is a great cook and loves to bake cakes....darn... ;) So far I'm on your standard workout split but my key is 4 sets of 15 reps at 65% of my one rep max. If you guys have any questions with your routine, i'll be more than happy to assist! Also remember, REST is just as important as the workout so try not to over-train your muscles.
A
not a problem here! ;D
I completely burned myself out on dead lifts today before I started the WOD. I decided just to blow my last personal record by 15 lbs. hahahano It was interesting. My form stayed solid, so I know I have plenty of room to work still. It's just convincing my body not to give up. The hardest part of the lift for me is the time from when my muscles first start taking the load until the weight lifts off the floor. Once it's moving, I'm golden. It's just feeling just how hard everything has to contract, and all in the right order, in order to move the weight. I did hit a memorable mark today, though. I lifted more than I've ever weighed in my life: 173 lbs. It was in a 5x5 with 123-133-153-163-173. I just can't wait until my squat is that big!
The WOD was hard after that. 10 sumo dead lift high pulls at 63 lbs, 10 push press at 63 lbs, and 10 knees to elbows, 4 rounds. As I was struggling with the push press in the last round, my coach said he wanted me done by 13:30. I ended up killing it in 12:20.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 22, 2008, 07:52:16 PM
^^ [thumbsup]
I belive that instant in time on the Deadlift is the most difficult for everyone.
Hell ya!
Ducatista,
If you want to get better at the other part of the dead lift, I.E. the concentric portion of movement, it's best to do "half lifts" where you DO NOT let the weight hit the floor. As soon as your hands go past your knees (towards the middle of your shin) explode back up. Believe me, do this for 3 months and your deads will go up. I couldn't break 500 on my deads for the longest time until I did it this way. I would actualy stop at my shins to let the weight 'rest' then start the concentric phase, but only do this if your form is spot on and your back is up for the work load. It can mess you up! Also, before lifting, make sure your hips are low to activate more of your glutes. Happy lifting [beer]
Angelo
WoD Me
"Eva"
Five rounds for time of: Four rounds for time
Run 800 meters 400m run
2 pood Kettlebell swing, 30 reps 45lb dumbell swing, 20 reps
30 Pull-ups 20 Jumping pull-ups
20:12
too much shit to do... damnit.
atleast i was in the feild all day instead of desk jockeying it.
Wod Me
CF warm-up x2
Back Squat 5-5-5-5-5 reps 155-165-175-185-195
Waiter walk
Snatch drills
Quote from: kopfjager on December 24, 2008, 05:23:59 PM
Snatch drills
I'm just to the point where I'm starting to do these with the bar instead of PVC. They still scare the snot out of me for some unknown reason.
Some push-up workouts for you strong folks.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithRingPushups.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithRingPushups.wmv)
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithPushups.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithPushups.wmv)
Quote from: kopfjager on December 24, 2008, 09:55:14 PM
Some push-up workouts for you strong folks.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithRingPushups.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithRingPushups.wmv)
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithPushups.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithPushups.wmv)
I got the rings. Going to be a bit before I can do all those and look that easy doing it. Need to put mat down for the occassional face plant too.
WoD Me
CF Warm up x 1
"Angie"
For time:
100 Pull-ups 50 pull-ups
100 Push-ups 50 push-ups
100 Sit-ups 50 sit-ups
100 Squats 50 squats 10:37
Snatch drills
The push up work on the rings is awesome. Can do all sorts of great shoulder stuff like the videos kopf posted. Fun. Not quite as difficult for me as I thought but I won't be doing dozens and dozens a day for some time so there's lots of room to grow.
ring dips are muuch harder than dips on a dip bar.
pullups are great, but I'm having some problem with false grip so I'll work on that. need some talc as I slip down to normal grip, but a lot of that may be strength too.
These are a cool mix-up for upper body stuff....going to be fun.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 24, 2008, 09:55:14 PM
Some push-up workouts for you strong folks.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithRingPushups.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithRingPushups.wmv)
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithPushups.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_PlayingWithPushups.wmv)
Nicole is just hot, and what a beast of a woman.
WoD Me
Pack: CF warmup x 2
Complete as many rounds as possible 20 minutes of:
65 pound Thruster, 5 reps 6 sets + 5 thrusters
65 pound Hang Powercleans, 7 reps
65 pound Sumo Deadlift High-pull, 10 reps
Quote from: kopfjager on December 27, 2008, 06:23:57 PM
WoD Me
Pack: CF warmup x 2
Complete as many rounds as possible 20 minutes of:
65 pound Thruster, 5 reps 6 sets + 5 thrusters
65 pound Hang Powercleans, 7 reps
65 pound Sumo Deadlift High-pull, 10 reps
I hate AMRAP WODs with a passion. I'm talking an ardent burning passion. Yesterday for us it was:
AMRAP in 20 mins:
10 pull ups (scaled with the crutch)
15 squats (1/2 BW)
100 single unders
It was wretched. MS heat and humidity sucked the life out of me. Plus, I was practicing my kips beforehand, so my arms were already smoked. I also hadn't jumped rope since middle school, so it took me a couple of tries to figure it out. The warm up was:
2 rounds of:
5 burpees
10 kettlebell swings (24 kg)
400m run
The bigger kettlebell was a bit of a bear. I've never swung 1/3 bodyweight before and it was a HUUUUGE hip extension exercise. It took me an entire half swing to get a full swing. It also tried to pull me over a couple of times. It was kind of funny.
I want bigger thrusters. I'm stuck at 58 lbs unless I'm killing myself. I love the heavier sumo dead lift high pulls, though! Those rock!
(AMRAP = as many rounds as possible)
ok. we're working on buying a building for my law firm. If we get it, the firm will rent space from our property holding company. The benefit and the relevance here is that the cool big garage of the building we're trying to get would become a big gym. I think I'll try crossfit for 2009.
and if my 'box' is on the same property as my company, you're going to have a monster by 2010.
<end big talk no action post>
otherwise it's same old workout, different day......
Quote from: Statler on December 27, 2008, 07:57:38 PM
ok. we're working on buying a building for my law firm. If we get it, the firm will rent space from our property holding company. The benefit and the relevance here is that the cool big garage of the building we're trying to get would become a big gym. I think I'll try crossfit for 2009.
and if my 'box' is on the same property as my company, you're going to have a monster by 2010.
<end big talk no action post>
otherwise it's same old workout, different day......
Not just any monster...
A FIRE BREATHING MONSTER!!!
I can see a cinco de mayo WOD now. You're so going to beat me to doing a muscle up. And then I'm going to hate you.
Quote from: Ducatista on December 27, 2008, 08:00:31 PM
And then I'm going to hate you.
but I'll feed you yummy margaritas :'(
(and you have skinny fit umbrella girl anyway..why are you complaining?)
(can he do muscle ups btw?)
Quote from: Statler on December 27, 2008, 08:05:53 PM
but I'll feed you yummy margaritas :'(
(and you have skinny fit umbrella girl anyway..why are you complaining?)
(can he do muscle ups btw?)
I'm VERY far from skinny. I'm still just above 30% BF. I'm aiming for under 20% and would be doing back flips with joy if I could get down to 15%. Stillie can't do MUs yet. He's very tall, so that really works against him in any gymnastics move. Well, it sucks for pretty much everything except running, jumping, and throwing.
This time next year we'll be printing up a CAM cheese/beef cake Ducati calander for the DMF. 12 months to go.
Did intervals (10x 200m) with a 53 yr old woman. Heart rate hit 97% on almost every round. That's an embarrassing combination to admit, but, hey she's a kick-arse athlete and I'm, uh, not.
WoD
"Michael"
In honor of Navy Lt. Michael McGreevy, KIA Afghanistan, 05
Big Dawgs:
As Rx’d
Try this with GHD sit ups for extra fun
Pack: Me
Three rounds for time of:
Run 800 meters
35 Back Extensions 26:30
35 Sit-ups
Quote from: kopfjager on December 28, 2008, 05:54:09 PM
WoD
"Michael"
In honor of Navy Lt. Michael McGreevy, KIA Afghanistan, 05
Big Dawgs:
As Rx’d
Try this with GHD sit ups for extra fun
Pack: Me
Three rounds for time of:
Run 800 meters
35 Back Extensions 26:30
35 Sit-ups
This is on my hit list. Not bad!
Quote from: Statler on December 27, 2008, 08:12:00 PM
This time next year we'll be printing up a CAM cheese/beef cake Ducati calander for the DMF. 12 months to go.
I can submit a really old picture :P
I can submit a picture of someone else [thumbsup]
"Never Forget" Fundraiser.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitHamptonRoads_HeroesNeverForget.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitHamptonRoads_HeroesNeverForget.wmv)
Fyi all....I think you crossfit folks have your own language.
Besides reporting the current workouts....how's the progress?
I am still a fat bastard.
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 28, 2008, 09:42:02 PM
I think you crossfit folks have your own language.
Besides reporting the current workouts....how's the progress?
I am still a fat bastard.
Agreeing to all that!!
;D
Quote from: IZ on December 28, 2008, 09:50:45 PM
Agreeing to all that!!
;D
Hey, did you get your 10 behind-the-backs by Christmas?
Quote from: Rameses on December 28, 2008, 09:57:44 PM
Hey, did you get your 10 behind-the-backs by Christmas?
Unfortunately, no. I tried them several times. I just couldn't get the hands behond my back far enough to clap. But..happy still because it got me into doing about 5 new ways to do push-ups and varying forms. I'm not giving up on them though. [thumbsup]
Quote from: IZ on December 28, 2008, 10:05:49 PM
Unfortunately, no. I tried them several times. I just couldn't get the hands behond my back far enough to clap. But..happy still because it got me into doing about 5 new ways to do push-ups and varying forms. I'm not giving up on them though. [thumbsup]
You need to add some stretches to your routine. ;)
Quote from: Rameses on December 28, 2008, 10:25:16 PM
You need to add some stretches to your routine. ;)
You're telling me what I need to do in my workouts, huh.
OK
;)
Quote from: IZ on December 28, 2008, 10:35:19 PM
You're telling me what I need to do in my workouts, huh.
OK
;)
You're in better shape than I, but I
am an Exercise and Sports Science major. :P
freaks. all of you.
:-*
Quote from: Rameses on December 28, 2008, 11:01:17 PM
I am an Exercise and Sports Science major. :P
long story short..if I would have taken 2 more classes, I would have earned a dual-major BA in SLP/Audiolgy & Sports Science. ;D
Quote from: IZ on December 29, 2008, 01:23:55 AM
long story short..if I would have taken 2 more classes, I would have earned a dual-major BA in SLP/Audiolgy & Sports Science. ;D
The "Rant" answer was so much better.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 29, 2008, 07:27:49 AM
The "Rant" answer was so much better.
That was sent in PM instead.
What we determined is that with all the experience..I am no
IZ_kopfjager yet..
referring to age of course.
;D
Quote from: IZ on December 29, 2008, 01:23:55 AM
long story short..if I would have taken 2 more classes, I would have earned a dual-major BA in SLP/Audiolgy & Sports Science. ;D
I didn't realize they offered Sports Science degrees back in the 1800s.
Now go do some stretches.
[cheeky]
One hour on the treadmill.
1000 calories burned.
13,000 to go.
Quote from: Rameses on December 29, 2008, 09:33:28 AM
I didn't realize they offered Sports Science degrees back in the 1800s.
Now go do some stretches.
[cheeky]
We were born in different decades..not different centuries.
Don't get me mixed up with Kopf or Howie!
Quote from: Obsessed? on December 29, 2008, 02:56:05 PM
One hour on the treadmill.
1000 calories burned.
13,000 to go.
[laugh]
keep up the good work!
i did an hour of pretty intense cardio tonight.
it was tough considering i haven't been to the gym in a couple of weeks.
Thanks, Mel.
Now I need to stretch (again) or I'll lock into the fetal position overnight.
Ugh-skipped some weeks, went tonight, overheated, debated throwing up, left, now, hurt.
Wednesday will be better.
Still fat.
Considering I haven't lifted in a few weeks, I was happy with my set of 10 bench presses at 75 lbs. [thumbsup]
Oh, and I climbed Mt. Diablo on the bike this weekend. ;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 29, 2008, 07:16:22 PM
Still fat.
here too.
and drinking dark and stormies.
but I ran four miles and did some pullups on the rings today....still working on false grip. (tomorrow is ring pushups and shoulder work)
moderation and all that.
WoD Me
CF Warm-up x2
Shoulder press 1-1-1-1-1 reps 95-105-115-125-135
Push press 3-3-3-3-3 reps 115-115-120-125-130
Push Jerk 5-5-5-5-5 reps Worked on technique 95-95-95-95-95
Quote from: somegirl on December 29, 2008, 07:37:23 PM
I was happy with my set of 10 bench presses at 75 lbs. [thumbsup]
for how many reps?
I rode 15 miles on my road bike three times this week and played soccer on saturday. I'm hurtin but only have five more pounds to reach the upper end of my goal weight. Woot woot!
i have done nothing in 3 days. not even ride to work. boo.
I finally got my butt into the gym with a good friend of mine. He plays for the Lions [laugh] so I figured I'll give him a run for his money.
Its the first gym session I've had since X-mas week so I was a little rusty, so what better way to get back into than to do a total body workout.
Here are the numbers:
Cardio @ 70% max heart rate for 15 mins
Flat bench press: 4 sets of 15 (225lbs)
Dumbel curls: 4 sets of 15 (25lbs)
lat pull downs: 4 sets of 15 (80lbs -150lbs)
shoulder lateral raises: 4 sets of 15 (15lbs)
Pretty good for a get back into it routine.
So, what posistion are you going to play for the Lions next year?
Im sure they are willing to try new things...
Starting in next year I am going to do the 100 push up challenge!
How many can you do at once now?
Quote from: somegirl on December 30, 2008, 06:34:36 PM
How many can you do at once now?
I was up to 45 and then I slacked off. Now I can only do 32.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on December 30, 2008, 05:08:18 PM
good friend of mine. He plays for the Lions [laugh]
Goddamn those Lions suck..
and the Wolverines too!! [roll]
LOL..Lake Travis HS (TX state champs) could probably take them both!! ;D
D*mn..it's an embarrassment admitting I'm from Michigan these days! [cheeky]
Funny..my wife was a realtor in Scottsdale. One of the other realtors was trying to impress her when he gave her his card. He used to play for the Lions and had a pic of himself in full uniform on the back of his business card. My wife accidentally laughed out loud when she looked at it. [laugh]
Anyway..glad to see that you're in the gym. [thumbsup] It's hard to keep motivated during the MI winters!!
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on December 30, 2008, 06:29:16 PM
Starting in next year I am going to do the 100 push up challenge!
See page 13..
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.180 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.180)
What is this "challenge" you speak of??
You're starting this 1/1/09, right?!
Quote from: IZ on December 30, 2008, 06:59:59 PM
See page 13..
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.180 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.180)
What is this "challenge" you speak of??
You're starting this 1/1/09, right?!
http://hundredpushups.com/ (http://hundredpushups.com/) There is a challange on ADVrider.
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on December 30, 2008, 07:04:41 PM
http://hundredpushups.com/ (http://hundredpushups.com/) There is a challange on ADVrider.
Simple! I know you can do it LMT!! [thumbsup]
damn..... for chest hitting the floor good form pushups I'm in the sixties for one set and that's pushing it and very hard for me. Forty something is easy. Fifty something I have to pay attention. Sixty something and at some point I faceplant.
great goal.
do it.
Ha,
I'm actually trying out for my college as a walk in, but I haven't played ball in 6 years. If not, I thought about playing rugby just for the stamina point of things. I will be using this summer to do some athletic training, so back to doing deads, squats and working on hill sprints.
I discovered the joys of doing pull ups on rings last night. It was SO much easier on my shoulders (recovering from tendinitis in both). I was able to knock out 5 of them without completely killing myself. Then my coach hopped on them and did a muscle up. BASTID! I guess that's why I pay him the big bucks, right? As soon as I get comfortable with pull ups on the rings, I'll switch to a false grip and start working up to chest-high in the never ending quest for a muscle up.
I hit a new PR in back squats. I was supposed to be doing 5x5, but it ended up only being 5x4 (123-128-133-138). I was hoping for 143, but it just wasn't going to happen after nearly a week of rest. In the WOD, my ring pushups are nearly horizontal now, but I don't quite have enough strength in the little stabilizer muscles to do ring dips, so I'll keep on working those. The box jumps were easier than ever. The WOD was:
Sumo dead lift high pulls (63 lbs)
Ring push ups
Box jumps (20" box)
21-15-9
11:56
I need to google muscle ups.
I need a massage. ;)
hmmm....Looks like you can really damage your shoulders doing that over time. Is this part of a cross fit program?
Quote from: bulldogs2k on December 31, 2008, 02:03:52 PM
hmmm....Looks like you can really damage your shoulders doing that over time. Is this part of a cross fit program?
we don't want to turn this thread into a debate about routines, but just looking through anecdotal evidence it appears the opposite might be the case...lots of people with better joints. What gives you concern about it for the shoulders?
Quote from: bulldogs2k on December 31, 2008, 02:03:52 PM
hmmm....Looks like you can really damage your shoulders doing that over time. Is this part of a cross fit program?
My mother told me when I was little to avoid lifting anything over 20 lbs even as an adult because of the risk of back injury. I blew her doors off when I told her I picked 173 lbs off the floor the other day... 5 times in a row. Safety should be part of any fitness methodology, and it is certainly a part of the CrossFit methodology.
Quote from: Ducatista on December 31, 2008, 01:33:38 PM
I discovered the joys of doing pull ups on rings last night. It was SO much easier on my shoulders (recovering from tendinitis in both). I was able to knock out 5 of them without completely killing myself. Then my coach hopped on them and did a muscle up. BASTID! I guess that's why I pay him the big bucks, right? As soon as I get comfortable with pull ups on the rings, I'll switch to a false grip and start working up to chest-high in the never ending quest for a muscle up.
I hit a new PR in back squats. I was supposed to be doing 5x5, but it ended up only being 5x4 (123-128-133-138). I was hoping for 143, but it just wasn't going to happen after nearly a week of rest. In the WOD, my ring pushups are nearly horizontal now, but I don't quite have enough strength in the little stabilizer muscles to do ring dips, so I'll keep on working those. The box jumps were easier than ever. The WOD was:
Sumo dead lift high pulls (63 lbs)
Ring push ups
Box jumps (20" box)
21-15-9
11:56
Gett'n "Strong" girl. [thumbsup] [evil]
WoD Me
"Fight Gone Bad!"
Three rounds of:
Wall-ball, 20 pound ball, 10 ft target (Reps) 20lb Thrusters
Sumo deadlift high-pull, 75 pounds (Reps) 65lb SDHP
Box Jump, 20" box (Reps) 14" Box jump Total: 276
Push-press, 75 pounds (Reps) 65lb PP
Row (Calories) Burpees
In this workout you move from each of five stations after a minute.The clock does not reset or stop between exercises. This is a five-minute round from which a one-minute break is allowed before repeating. On call of "rotate", the athletes must move to next station immediately for best score. One point is given for each rep, except on the rower where each calorie is one point.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.wmv)
Quote from: perseaus on December 31, 2008, 01:56:49 PM
I need a massage. ;)
Ditto. Badly! After taking nearly a week off and then going in there and knocking everything out, I'm more sore than I've been in a couple of months!
Quote from: kopfjager on December 31, 2008, 02:52:58 PM
WoD Me
"Fight Gone Bad!"
Three rounds of:
Wall-ball, 20 pound ball, 10 ft target (Reps) 20lb Thrusters
Sumo deadlift high-pull, 75 pounds (Reps) 65lb SDHP
Box Jump, 20" box (Reps) 14" Box jump Total: 276
Push-press, 75 pounds (Reps) 65lb PP
Row (Calories) Burpees
In this workout you move from each of five stations after a minute.The clock does not reset or stop between exercises. This is a five-minute round from which a one-minute break is allowed before repeating. On call of "rotate", the athletes must move to next station immediately for best score. One point is given for each rep, except on the rower where each calorie is one point.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.wmv)
This is where I die. I did it as prescribed for women, with the exception of the wall ball weight (53 lbs on the sumos and push press, 20" box, and 8 lb ball), and only managed to eek out a 209. My glycolitic energy pathway is so underused. I've never worked in that part of energy expenditure, so it's really weak. I go from phosphagenic to oxidative so quickly that my reps fall off quickly between rounds 1 and 2. I'm working on it and I can see the changes in my log, but I just have so far to go.
He's back. [thumbsup]
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/alg_lance.jpg)
Quote from: kopfjager on December 31, 2008, 02:52:58 PM
WoD Me
"Fight Gone Bad!"
Three rounds of:
Wall-ball, 20 pound ball, 10 ft target (Reps) 20lb Thrusters
Sumo deadlift high-pull, 75 pounds (Reps) 65lb SDHP
Box Jump, 20" box (Reps) 14" Box jump Total: 276
Push-press, 75 pounds (Reps) 65lb PP
Row (Calories) Burpees
In this workout you move from each of five stations after a minute.The clock does not reset or stop between exercises. This is a five-minute round from which a one-minute break is allowed before repeating. On call of "rotate", the athletes must move to next station immediately for best score. One point is given for each rep, except on the rower where each calorie is one point.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_FGBSCDemoExplanation.wmv)
Gettin strong girl!! ;D
ok everyone, who is with me for this...
I don't care how hung over we are.
It doesn't matter how long it takes.
But tomorrow for me is 100 situps, 100 pushups, 100 pullups and a 5 mile run.
The plan is to do the run slow at a 9 minute/mile pace. The situps I could do in one set but I'll do two. The pushups I'll do in two sets. The pullups I'd like to do in 10 sets spread throughout the day but by the end it may take more.
<enthusiasm for this may be just a bit lower tomorrow when I get up so I may need a swift kick>
Quote from: Statler on December 31, 2008, 04:55:50 PM
ok everyone, who is with me for this...
I don't care how hung over we are.
It doesn't matter how long it takes.
But tomorrow for me is 100 situps, 100 pushups, 100 pullups and a 5 mile run.
The plan is to do the run slow at a 9 minute/mile pace. The situps I could do in one set but I'll do two. The pushups I'll do in two sets. The pullups I'd like to do in 10 sets spread throughout the day but by the end it may take more.
<enthusiasm for this may be just a bit lower tomorrow when I get up so I may need a swift kick>
Consider the kick scheduled.
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 31, 2008, 05:10:13 PM
Consider the kick scheduled.
why thank you. Hopefully the pushups and situps and a set of pullups will be done before I ever post up. In reality I'll post up over coffee and bail.
Quote from: Statler on December 31, 2008, 02:20:17 PM
we don't want to turn this thread into a debate about routines, but just looking through anecdotal evidence it appears the opposite might be the case...lots of people with better joints. What gives you concern about it for the shoulders?
The pull-up part is ok, the transition from pull-up to dip is the red flag for me. It doesn't mean you will blow out your shoulders every time you do it, it all depends on your physical abilities, but the simple fact is that your shoulders are not designed to carry the weight of your body. I've been a Fitness trainer for too long, I try not to get in the way of people and their workouts, simply put, if it works for you, then don't stop (just keep your body healthy)! I think of lifting as a science/math but that is just me ;)
do male gymnasts blow shoulders often? I ask because female gymnasts never look truly healthy to me but the guys sure do. And the mat work and rings and bars certainly work their shoulders horribly.
how about the clean and jerk? kind of the opposite of a muscle up. worries?
not arguing...truly looking for different input. My current thought is I'm in so much better health doing things that occassionally might strain a muscle a bit versus not doing it.
I pulled a calf bad enough that I got the big bruise on my foot from the blood pooling...my Dad gave me shit about how bad running was for me. I countered that the 45 pounds lighter I was was better than the occassional minor injury and the 70 extra pounds he was carrying would kill him faster than my calf pull. And I learned to stretch so much better. (funny that I also read recently that you can't change much with stretching after the age of thirty...hahahahhaha bullshit...I can now flat palm my hands from standing...that's at least four inches from where I started...so I now take the expert articles on what can't be done with more suspiscion than the ones on what can be done).
Quote from: Statler on December 31, 2008, 05:59:52 PM
do male gymnasts blow shoulders often? I ask because female gymnasts never look truly healthy to me but the guys sure do. And the mat work and rings and bars certainly work their shoulders horribly.
how about the clean and jerk? kind of the opposite of a muscle up. worries?
not arguing...truly looking for different input. My current thought is I'm in so much better health doing things that occassionally might strain a muscle a bit versus not doing it.
I pulled a calf bad enough that I got the big bruise on my foot from the blood pooling...my Dad gave me shit about how bad running was for me. I countered that the 45 pounds lighter I was was better than the occassional minor injury and the 70 extra pounds he was carrying would kill him faster than my calf pull. And I learned to stretch so much better. (funny that I also read recently that you can't change much with stretching after the age of thirty...hahahahhaha bullshit...I can now flat palm my hands from standing...that's at least four inches from where I started...so I now take the expert articles on what can't be done with more suspiscion than the ones on what can be done).
Clean and jerks are bad too, but again, it all depends on two things, how fit you are and time. You can do a bench press with the bar going down to your chest, everyone does it, even bench press competitions have you resting the bar on your chest before moving to the concentric portion of your lift. It will build muscles but over time your shoulders take a beating from the bar being too low (once past a 90 degree bend of your elbow, the weight transfers from your chest to your delts). Eventually, it may tear since your delts are not designed to hold and accelerate 250 plus pounds of weight (not to mention torn pecs), but then again you may not tear anything. As a fitness professional, its our job to make sure it doesn't happen so we use extreme caution
I'm sure there are a BUNCH of male gymnast that blow deltoids all the time. They are FIT as F*** though so that minimizes there chances of injury, but thats not always so... I was one hell of a wrestler and full back but I was always side lined by injuries, and in the end, it is all about keeping your self healthy. You got a point though, the female gymnast look unhealthy...
Czaja's "100 push-up challenge" post made me get up and see how many I could do in a row.
Argh..80 consecutive :-[ For me..it's a disappointment..considering I used to do a lot more. I've only been doing sets of 50 nowadays.
Starting tomorrow..my sets are going back up to where I'm at 100 again.
New goal..
Jan..600 push-ups/day. Starting with sets of 60 @ 10x's/day. By the end of January..it will be moved up to 100 @ 6x's/day.
Feb..700/day (7 sets of 100)
and so on ..
By July..back to 1200/day again!!
Incorporating a crossfit routine 1 x/wk too.
Also..still trying to get those behind-the-back clapper pushups!! Still gotta get 10!! [thumbsup]
Happy new years!
My goal is to eat 7 small meals a day...I'll try anyways.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on December 31, 2008, 05:19:19 PMI've been a Fitness trainer for too long
Then you need to go get retrained yourself.
Quote from: IZ on December 31, 2008, 04:31:49 PM
Gettin strong girl!! ;D
Shouldn't you be somewhere getting a wax.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 31, 2008, 11:48:31 PM
Shouldn't you be somewhere getting a wax.
Oh yeah..Spa day..first Sat. of the month
[roll]
Not quite done with what I wanted to do today but close so far....maybe a bit more later after some lunch.
so far: 100 pushups (2 sets of 50)
100 situps on the ball (2 sets of 50)
100 back extensions on the ball (2 sets of 50)
100 speed squats..no weight but feet leave the ground each rep. (2 sets of 50)
3.4 mile run (2 trips of 1.7 after each set of above)
40 pullups (4 sets of ten)
Quote from: Statler on January 01, 2009, 11:52:32 AM
Not quite done with what I wanted to do today but close so far....maybe a bit more later after some lunch.
so far: 100 pushups (2 sets of 50)
100 situps on the ball (2 sets of 50)
100 back extensions on the ball (2 sets of 50)
100 speed squats..no weight but feet leave the ground each rep. (2 sets of 50)
3.4 mile run (2 trips of 1.7 after each set of above)
40 pullups (4 sets of ten)
[thumbsup] Nothing wrong with a split routine!
Got to give G props for workout today. She doesn't need to do anything to look fit (5'7"...116 lbs...) but mostly it's carefull diet and just being on her feet all day. So she's thinking some strength training would be good. Today with my workout she did:
25 pushups (knees)
10 pullups (with foot on stool for help)
60 situps
ran a mile
40 back extensions
50 speed aquats
It was nice of her to work out with me simply for help with my motivation. Thanks, G.
Quote from: Statler on January 01, 2009, 03:51:17 PM
Got to give G props for workout today. She doesn't need to do anything to look fit (5'7"...116 lbs...) but mostly it's carefull diet and just being on her feet all day. So she's thinking some strength training would be good. Today with my workout she did:
25 pushups (knees)
10 pullups (with foot on stool for help)
60 situps
ran a mile
40 back extensions
50 speed aquats
It was nice of her to work out with me simply for help with my motivation. Thanks, G.
Don't kid yourself, everyone NEEDS to have a regular exercise program. It's just that some were gifted with wonderful hormones that don't let them pack on pounds like the rest of us. She may be slender, but exercise doesn't hurt anyone!
And I completely agree with you. Working out with others is way more fun than working out alone.
Today begins my effort to kick the grains and sugar addiction. I failed at lunch (had crashed at a friend's place last night and pizza was the only option), but I'm going to do my best to do this. I'm going to do 3 weeks of my best effort of no sugar and no grains before I start following the Zone in a more dedicated way. I'm tired of working out with this 20 lb weight vest strapped to my body. It's time to rip off the rest of the fat suit.
That's why I said she doesn't need to do anything to look fit. ;D
She used to run all the time but it's strength training which is going to show great results quickly for her. hooray for tone. [beer]
Quote from: Statler on January 01, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
That's why I said she doesn't need to do anything to look fit. ;D
She used to run all the time but it's strength training which is going to show great results quickly for her. hooray for tone. [beer]
OOPS!!! Maybe I should learn to read. :-[
Yeah, definitely with such a low body fat percentage she's going to look cut pretty quickly if she's willing to lift heavy some of the time. I'm still around 30% body fat and even I can see where my shoulders, chest, and legs are becoming more muscular. And unlike what people seem to think, she won't end up looking like a body builder competitor unless she wants to. Most CF girls are very much on the slender side. It's awesome that she's getting motivated! Working out as a couple has been so good for Stefan and me.
Been pretty lazy since last saturday, so I forced myself to get something in before my unexpected houseguest woke up.
Started on week 3 of the 100 pushup challenge dealie. It was demeaning to realize how much strength I have lost. Oh well, makes getting better easier ;D
200 varied crunches
2 mile slow run. god I hate running.
Quote from: elTristo on January 01, 2009, 04:28:36 PM
god I hate running.
me too. But I love beer. I can't do one without the other.
Quote from: kopfjager on December 31, 2008, 11:43:48 PM
Then you need to go get retrained yourself.
I'm doing well for my self thank you.
Worked out yesterday, which sucked-the gym was closed.
Did I mention this sucks? Stupid health nonsense.
WoD In honor of Navy Lt. Michael Murphy KIA Afghanistan 05.
"Murph" Me
For time: Scaled: 1/2 Murph
1 mile Run 1/2 mi Run
100 Pull-ups 50 Pull-ups
200 Push-ups 100 Push-ups
300 Squats 150 Squats
1 mile Run 1/2 mi Run
23:52
(Just for the record, I prefer to work out alone. I tend to take it as my time. I'm not at work, my girlfriend can't bother me, the phone doesn't ring, it is my time.)
Mothermake the beast with two backser the fitness center at the apartment was packed today. Normaly i'm the only one in there, today there was 6 people in there. The greenway where I run / bike was seemed busier than normal too, a lot of people kind of wondering around not really working out...
Luckily, all the New Years Resolution people will give up in a few weeks...
Gym Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=628qphA1-8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=628qphA1-8M)
WoD
With a continuously running clock do one 135 pound Clean and Jerk the first minute, two 135 pound Clean and Jerks the second minute, three 135 pound Clean and Jerks the third minute... continuing as long as you are able.
Me
Scaled: 95lbs 9 rounds + 5
Quote from: kopfjager on January 02, 2009, 06:15:15 PM
WoD
With a continuously running clock do one 135 pound Clean and Jerk the first minute, two 135 pound Clean and Jerks the second minute, three 135 pound Clean and Jerks the third minute... continuing as long as you are able.
Me
Scaled: 95lbs 9 rounds + 5
Cleans. Ugh. I love them, but I'm a wuss. I can front squat 128, but for some reason I'm unwilling to get under the bar when it's only 83 lbs. I can do 78, but I puss out on 83. [bang]
Today it was:
Dead lifts (133 lbs)
Piked handstand push ups (20" box)
Jumping squats
21-15-9
9:46
Considering that less than 2 months ago 133 lbs was my dead lift max, I felt pretty good that I was able to kill 16 speed dead lifts without stopping and finished the last 5 of that set less than a minute into the workout. Then getting myself upside down gave me a lesson in humility. It wasn't purdy.
^^ Awesome job [thumbsup]
It was Clean & Jerk.
Quote from: kopfjager on January 02, 2009, 06:27:22 PM
^^ Awesome job [thumbsup]
It was Clean & Jerk.
I'm much more afraid of cleans than jerks. My jerk is higher than my clean.
Quote from: Ducatista on January 02, 2009, 06:31:49 PM
I'm much more afraid of cleans than jerks. My jerk is higher than my clean.
You gotta be able to clean it to jerk it.
Reading this thread wears me out! :) I need to get back in shape.
Back in the day (college) I lifted weights a LOT. Benched 300 pretty regularly at the peak, and so on. Then I mangled my right hand at work and it all more or less ended because I didn't have the grip strength anymore and had to hang it up for safety reasons. I'm still rather large in stature, but the tone I had is gone.
Flexing in front of the mirror is still a hoot at times though. [laugh]
I plan on walking more and riding the mountain bike more this year than last. I should get a small set of free weights again too and max out on reps.
Quote from: kopfjager on January 02, 2009, 06:35:16 PM
You gotta be able to clean it to jerk it.
This thread is going nowhere good....
I like it [thumbsup]
Quote from: elTristo on January 02, 2009, 07:02:47 PM
This thread is going nowhere good....
I like it [thumbsup]
Oh gawd. It can't go anywhere that the "CrossFit pick up lines" didn't go already. [popcorn]
Quote from: Speedbag on January 02, 2009, 06:38:45 PM
Reading this thread wears me out! :) I need to get back in shape.
Back in the day (college) I lifted weights a LOT. Benched 300 pretty regularly at the peak, and so on. Then I mangled my right hand at work and it all more or less ended because I didn't have the grip strength anymore and had to hang it up for safety reasons. I'm still rather large in stature, but the tone I had is gone.
Flexing in front of the mirror is still a hoot at times though. [laugh]
I plan on walking more and riding the mountain bike more this year than last. I should get a small set of free weights again too and max out on reps.
Not pushing a program, but I know a guy who does CrossFit who is missing all but 4" of one of his arms. You can work around grip strength. The thing that you really have going for you is that you have a fair amount of lean body mass. There are some people who don't have anything under the squish. You're starting in a place that isn't all that bad from that perspective.
Please, let's not even talk about injury keeping us from working out. [clap]
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitJournal_KyleCertDay2Pre.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitJournal_KyleCertDay2Pre.wmv)
Quote from: Ducatista on January 02, 2009, 07:07:20 PM
Not pushing a program, but I know a guy who does CrossFit who is missing all but 4" of one of his arms. You can work around grip strength. The thing that you really have going for you is that you have a fair amount of lean body mass. There are some people who don't have anything under the squish. You're starting in a place that isn't all that bad from that perspective.
Hmm, I'll have to check that out.
And there is some squish, thanks to beer. ;)
Quote from: kopfjager on January 02, 2009, 10:20:12 PM
Please, let's not even talk about injury keeping us from working out. [clap]
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitJournal_KyleCertDay2Pre.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitJournal_KyleCertDay2Pre.wmv)
sweet jebus. i'm going for a run now. and maybe a swim.
Quote from: kopfjager on January 02, 2009, 10:20:12 PM
Please, let's not even talk about injury keeping us from working out. [clap]
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitJournal_KyleCertDay2Pre.wmv (http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFitJournal_KyleCertDay2Pre.wmv)
no.
excuses.
that's awesome.
Run:
(220m on, 50 slow x2, 440 on 50 slow x2) X5
HRM says 1050 calories. body just says tired.
Since my B-day on the 28th of Dec, I've been working on implementing a bit of a fitness routine. I don't have a scale, so I can only go by how clothes fit. Here's what I'm doing:
1. Pushups, currently 3 sets of 20 (plan on going up five every couple weeks)
2. Situps while holding a 20lb weight on my chest, all the way up where it touches my chin, 3 sets of 8 currently, trying to add 1 rep every session. I can feel these for sure.
3. Monkey rounds, 3 sets of 13, adding a couple reps each week.
At the moment, I'm in "throttle up" mode, working every other day. After I've done that for 2 weeks, I'm planning on trying to get this in at least 5-6 days a week.
JM
few questions:
how much $ does joining one of these crossfit gyms cost yall?
how much $ does a normal gym cost yall?
just wondering..
pull up bar $20
push ups and sit ups and lifting 40lb bag of dog food in strange ways and running up and down your stairs....free.
ok..seriously...it's dependant on your area. gyms here are running $80/month but some folks will chime in soon with numbers in the 40s in different locations.
The local crossfit place is part of a big gym, but some people get together and rent storage space to build their own for a small group cheap.
The goal is to get into a lifestyle that is sustainable by yourself or with your friends.
What are your goals?
I just do curls with the wife, as in, she's the weight.
Sometimes I don't warn her. The look on her face is priceless.
Quote from: wbeck257 on January 03, 2009, 06:56:10 PM
few questions:
how much $ does joining one of these crossfit gyms cost yall?
how much $ does a normal gym cost yall?
just wondering..
Mine costs me $115/month for up to 6 hours of personal training per week. If I actually could go to every session, that would be about $4.50/hr for my coach. I actually go 3-4 days/week, so that works out to be $6.75-9/hr. Most gyms in the area from what I have seen charge roughly $40/hr for a personal trainer.
I equate the level of coaching I have received to a personal trainer, because I don't NEED someone there EVERY rep saying, "There ya go. Keep pushing." I need someone there to kick my ass when I'm taking a break that's too long and to correct my form. He also gives me personalized nutritional counseling, goes over my personal goals and helps me adjust them (heavier and lighter) and achieve them, and tracks my progress pushing me to take on more weight safely. Some might say that I should equate the level of instruction to a "class instructor", but I don't think that a class instructor at a corporate gym would give me all I have listed above.
My coach does this because he loves it. I do not believe he makes a profit from it other than the personal satisfaction of making a few DC suburban residents a little (or A LOT) fitter.
Quote from: Ducatista on January 04, 2009, 03:05:16 PM
Mine costs me $115/month for up to 6 hours of personal training per week. If I actually could go to every session, that would be about $4.50/hr for my coach. I actually go 3-4 days/week, so that works out to be $6.75-9/hr. Most gyms in the area from what I have seen charge roughly $40/hr for a personal trainer.
I equate the level of coaching I have received to a personal trainer, because I don't NEED someone there EVERY rep saying, "There ya go. Keep pushing." I need someone there to kick my ass when I'm taking a break that's too long and to correct my form. He also gives me personalized nutritional counseling, goes over my personal goals and helps me adjust them (heavier and lighter) and achieve them, and tracks my progress pushing me to take on more weight safely. Some might say that I should equate the level of instruction to a "class instructor", but I don't think that a class instructor at a corporate gym would give me all I have listed above.
My coach does this because he loves it. I do not believe he makes a profit from it other than the personal satisfaction of making a few DC suburban residents a little (or A LOT) fitter.
Now that sounds like a good instructor! You know there good when they work for the love of the job! Awesome. [thumbsup]
Whew, thats a lot of money right there.
Go to Wal-Mart and get a couple 5lb or 10lb weights and a couple of 20lb or 25lb weights. You can do a lot with that simple little bit of weight & using your body weight. I'm already noticing a difference in my shoulders & abs doing push-ups & sit-ups w/ a weight on my chest ~
JM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on January 05, 2009, 06:45:54 AM
Go to Wal-Mart and get a couple 5lb or 10lb weights and a couple of 20lb or 25lb weights. You can do a lot with that simple little bit of weight & using your body weight. I'm already noticing a difference in my shoulders & abs doing push-ups & sit-ups w/ a weight on my chest ~
To be honest -- I was just wondering about the cost.
I'm not real interested in the whole crossfit thing.
If thats your thing, they hey, cool. It isn't for me.
I could never be a gym rat. If it's not competitive, I'm not doing it. I've basically done some sort of martial art for the past few years. Hopefully I'll be starting judo when I return from vacation.
Quote from: wbeck257 on January 05, 2009, 06:22:12 AM
Whew, thats a lot of money right there.
Last time I checked, this was a Ducati forum. [laugh] We enjoy what we pay for.
Quote from: duccarlos on January 05, 2009, 08:07:28 AM
I could never be a gym rat. If it's not competitive, I'm not doing it. I've basically done some sort of martial art for the past few years. Hopefully I'll be starting judo when I return from vacation.
If you don't think CrossFit is competitive you have lost you mind.
Quote from: wbeck257 on January 03, 2009, 06:56:10 PM
few questions:
how much $ does joining one of these crossfit gyms cost yall?
how much $ does a normal gym cost yall?
just wondering..
The gym I workout at is cheap, I pay 20 bucks a month, they also do a 15 dollar a month membership sans benefits, which is cheap for Virginia Beach. It does the job done so I can't complain.
A
Quick DMF update
I have lost probably between 20 and 30 pounds since September. I'm in the gym 5 days a week. I'm with a trainer M/W/F and our routines cycle every 3 weeks. 3 weeks of insane cardio and boxing, 3 weeks of weights / resistance training. Tuesday - Spinning class. Thursday - elliptical machine, spinning bike and upper body resistance training. Not only do I have cardio fitness for the first time in 2 decades, I am gaining upper body definition where I haven't EVER had it. I needed this like you won't believe!!
I won't be getting on a scale again until my birthday in mid-Feb. I guess this update is really about how I've given up and transformed my life because I just had to.
My eating has changed - big breakfast, energy food during the day in prep of workouts and almost nothing after 6pm. That last bit is one of the biggest things that has helped me lose weight - late night eating and binging is a make the beast with two backsin' killer!
I take delivery of my new bike in a few weeks, and I'm totally stoked that I'm in shape to ride it! [thumbsup]
Thanks again for this thread!
^^^ Awesome job [thumbsup]
[clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Tom!!
Quote from: tommys67 on January 05, 2009, 07:31:43 PM
Quick DMF update
I have lost probably between 20 and 30 pounds since September. I'm in the gym 5 days a week. I'm with a trainer M/W/F and our routines cycle every 3 weeks. 3 weeks of insane cardio and boxing, 3 weeks of weights / resistance training. Tuesday - Spinning class. Thursday - elliptical machine, spinning bike and upper body resistance training. Not only do I have cardio fitness for the first time in 2 decades, I am gaining upper body definition where I haven't EVER had it. I needed this like you won't believe!!
I won't be getting on a scale again until my birthday in mid-Feb. I guess this update is really about how I've given up and transformed my life because I just had to.
My eating has changed - big breakfast, energy food during the day in prep of workouts and almost nothing after 6pm. That last bit is one of the biggest things that has helped me lose weight - late night eating and binging is a make the beast with two backsin' killer!
I take delivery of my new bike in a few weeks, and I'm totally stoked that I'm in shape to ride it! [thumbsup]
Thanks again for this thread!
Not bad!
Has anyone started planning goals for 2009? I worked on mine and have 10 of them. I wanted them to be a mix of everything. Here they are:
1. Dead lift 253 lbs. This is going to be tough, but I think I will have fun working at it. I may not get there, but I'm going to try! I'm at 178 for 5 consecutive reps currently.
2. I'd like to have a dead hang pull up goal, but I'm not sure how many I should shoot for in a year. I want it to be challenging enough that it will be December before I reach my goal, but I do want it to be attainable. I think 3 would be an ambitious enough number.
3. 20 consecutive kipping pull ups. I can do a really weak kip unassisted and can bang out several on the smallest assistance band. It's a matter of upper body strength at this point.
4. 1 muscle up. This is pretty ambitious. This is the one that I'm most doubtful will actually happen. If not, it just gets moved off to 2010.
5. 1 unassisted chin up. Yes, supinated is my weaker grip!
6. Drop 10% body fat. Get this friggin' perma-weight vest off!!! I'm currently at 30%. This is a nutritional challenge.
7. Clean and jerk 103 lbs. I think I'm at 78 lbs right now.
8. Erg a 1:50 500m. I'm pretty sure I'm close. I know I can still bang out a sub 2:00, but I don't know how much it will take out of me to take off another 10 seconds, which is why I'm being a little less aggressive on this one.
9. FGB as Rx'd score of 250. I'm at 209 with an 8 lb med ball.
10. Start commuting on a bicycle to work as regularly as weather permits. I know there are many who will do it no matter what, but I'm just not that good!
Good stuff! I'll give it a shot:
1. This is the big one. Triathlon in May. Sprint or Olympic distance, I'm not picky.
2. 100 consecutive pushups
3. Sub-10 min 1.5 mile run
4. Break the 10 barrier on pull-ups (i've been stuck here for over a year)
5. No higher than 15% body fat as dictated by my scale (currently between 16-17%), and gain 10 lbs. This one is pure vanity ;D
Well I have to lose some weight, what with the new 696 having less torque to pull my fat ass around ;D
Currently 240 pounds
Goal 200 pounds
Don`t have a clue as to how, but will have to figure that one out over pizza and beer [thumbsup]
This is a really good thread. [thumbsup] I'll kick in my story:
In March of '08, I found out how out-of-shape I was. Took a family ski trip to CO over spring break, and the long days on the slopes really kicked my ass. My daily routine during the past 3+ years has been VERY sedentary.
My wife goes to the gym religiously. She does group exercise classes at our local YMCA about 3-4 times/week and does yoga or a 40-min treadmill run on the 'off' days. During our talks on the (15-hour) drive home from CO, I made the mental commitment to get back into shape.
Bear in mind that prior to this, I had never 'worked out' regularly at a gym. I have certainly been in weight rooms and done plenty of laps in swimming pools, but in my adult life I never worked out just for the sake of staying fit. I have had jobs that kept me active, and when I was in college, I preferred to play club/IM sports.
So, in late March I joined the YMCA; and for the past 8 months I've been attending Body Pump (http://www.lesmills.com/global/en/members/bodypump/bodypump-group-fitness-program.aspx) classes 3x per week. I know that there are probably 'better' regimens out there, but the positive effects have been good for me. :)
Some results from the past 8 months:
- Lost 20 pounds. I now weigh 215 lbs, and the weight is still coming off.
- Lost 3" from my waist line. I'm buying jeans with a 33" waist, down from 36".
- My strength and stamina ( ;)) are much improved.
The results for me are certainly visible. Comparing recent photos of me to those taken a year ago, it's a definite incentive for me to continue my workouts.
For those of you who are 'on the fence' about working out, it's time to get out there. Trust me - it's worth it. [thumbsup]
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on January 06, 2009, 10:33:35 AM
This is a really good thread. [thumbsup] I'll kick in my story:
In March of '08, I found out how out-of-shape I was. Took a family ski trip to CO over spring break, and the long days on the slopes really kicked my ass. My daily routine during the past 3+ years has been VERY sedentary.
My wife goes to the gym religiously. She does group exercise classes at our local YMCA about 3-4 times/week and does yoga or a 40-min treadmill run on the 'off' days. During our talks on the (15-hour) drive home from CO, I made the mental commitment to get back into shape.
Bear in mind that prior to this, I had never 'worked out' regularly at a gym. I have certainly been in weight rooms and done plenty of laps in swimming pools, but in my adult life I never worked out just for the sake of staying fit. I have had jobs that kept me active, and when I was in college, I preferred to play club/IM sports.
So, in late March I joined the YMCA; and for the past 8 months I've been attending Body Pump (http://www.lesmills.com/global/en/members/bodypump/bodypump-group-fitness-program.aspx) classes 3x per week. I know that there are probably 'better' regimens out there, but the positive effects have been good for me. :)
Some results from the past 8 months:
- Lost 20 pounds. I now weigh 215 lbs, and the weight is still coming off.
- Lost 3" from my waist line. I'm buying jeans with a 33" waist, down from 36".
- My strength and stamina ( ;)) are much improved.
The results for me are certainly visible. Comparing recent photos of me to those taken a year ago, it's a definite incentive for me to continue my workouts.
For those of you who are 'on the fence' about working out, it's time to get out there. Trust me - it's worth it. [thumbsup]
Awesome work! It is definitely very difficult work to try to change body composition. The changes tend to be slow and difficult to obtain. You're making it look too easy!
There are 2 very important components to every fitness plan:
1. You get the RESULTS you seek.
2. You enjoy the program. Otherwise, you won't do it.
HOLY SHIT! You mean it was food that led to obesity?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28524942/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28524942/)
I think it's funny that MSNBC posted this as if it's cutting edge. It's amazing that it took mainstream media so long to catch onto this. [laugh]
Shocking.
[cheeky]
Today:
15 min warm up on bike to park
4 sets of 5 pullups (last several were negatives. :( )
3 sets of 10 inverse body-weight rows
15 min ride back (faster pace)
3 x 30 sec hill sprints
Quote from: Ducatista on January 06, 2009, 10:45:40 AM
Awesome work! It is definitely very difficult work to try to change body composition. The changes tend to be slow and difficult to obtain. You're making it look too easy!
There are 2 very important components to every fitness plan:
1. You get the RESULTS you seek.
2. You enjoy the program. Otherwise, you won't do it.
Thanks for the compliments! I'm VERY happy with my results so far, and I fully expect to continue on this workout regimen.
You're absolutely right - if you don't enjoy the program, you won't stick with it.
Quote from: wbeck257 on January 03, 2009, 06:56:10 PM
how much $ does a normal gym cost yall?
just wondering..
We have a 'Family' membership at our local YMCA. There are multiple locations near me, and all are clean and well-maintained. Cost is $89/month for the entire family. This includes just about everything, except Personal Trainers which are billed extra on an hourly basis.
Our health insurance (BC/BS) reimburses $20/month for each of us if Wifey and I visit the YMCA 12x per month. This reduces our net cost to $49/month.
Well, due to this:
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/18424142/index.html (http://www.wsbtv.com/video/18424142/index.html)
I didn't get a whole lot of running or bikeing in today.
(Funny thing is, the same part flooded last month and I did the same thing that guy did, but with no helicopter following me..)
I did get a little done in between underwater areas though, and the gym was good.
Oh, and for results:
100 days ago the Wii fit called me obese. I threw it in the trash can.
Girlfriend drug it back out tonight, and I'm now on the lower section of overweight.
The game claimed I lost 27lbs in the last 100 or so days since I last used it.
Quote from: wbeck257 on January 06, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Well, due to this:
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/18424142/index.html (http://www.wsbtv.com/video/18424142/index.html)
I didn't get a whole lot of running or bikeing in today.
(Funny thing is, the same part flooded last month and I did the same thing that guy did, but with no helicopter following me..)
I did get a little done in between underwater areas though, and the gym was good.
Oh, and for results:
100 days ago the Wii fit called me obese. I threw it in the trash can.
Girlfriend drug it back out tonight, and I'm now on the lower section of overweight.
The game claimed I lost 27lbs in the last 100 or so days since I last used it.
Pussy. Get out there on your bicycle and row your way to the store to get some extra [bacon]
WoD Me
CFWU x2
Burgener warm-up
Front Squat 5-5-5-5-5 reps 115-135-145-155-165
10x45lb bar
Today's workout was abysmal (after warm up and strength work, of course):
10 dead lifts (133 lbs)
10 push ups
10 make the beast with two backsing rounds
15:46
I thought I was going to fall over. My form never suffered, but I am going to be one sore chica today. I was actually a little afraid of the bar towards the end. I would touch it and pull back before actually giving it a pull.
Quote from: Big Troubled Bear on January 06, 2009, 12:55:00 AM
Well I have to lose some weight, what with the new 696 having less torque to pull my fat ass around ;D
Currently 240 pounds
Goal 200 pounds
Don`t have a clue as to how, but will have to figure that one out over pizza and beer [thumbsup]
Then we'd have to change your name to "Medium Troubled Bear"
WoD Me
5K CFWUx2
2mi run
Overhead and Front squat drills 45lb bar
24" box jumps 2x10
Well, 2 weeks of leave traveling around New England, followed by being sick for the last week has led to me doing ZERO exercise. I don't feel like I have gained any weight, but I am sure I have lost strength and endurance. I am still sick, coughing shit up and feel like crap...
Tried weighted pullups, failed. Did 5 x 10 or 8 lat pulldowns (100 lbs) and jumped rope in between sets, then 5k (on treadmill).
push up sets up to 60 reps. The last ten kill me and rep 61 is a fail faceplant.
Not motivated at all to do any cardio today but there's no reason to not do 45 minutes on the treadmill with the tv on. Maybe before dinner.
OK ..... I started on Jan. 5th by giving up beer/wine, not eating chocolate ice cream every night and eating much more sensibly. That's enough calories to sustain a family of at least three right there. Then yesterday, the 12th, began a daily walk of a couple of miles a day. Then next Monday to the gym to begin a light regimen of 60 min. work outs at least three times a week.
This is important .......health wise. Hope I can do it. [bang]
Looking to go from 240#'s down to below 200#'s.
LA
Quote from: LA on January 13, 2009, 06:53:13 PMThis is important health wise. Hope I can do it. [bang]
We're rooting for you. :) [thumbsup]
Quote from: LA on January 13, 2009, 06:53:13 PM
OK ..... I started on Jan. 5th by giving up beer/wine, not eating chocolate ice cream every night and eating much more sensibly. That's enough calories to sustain a family of at least three right there. Then yesterday, the 12th, began a daily walk of a couple of miles a day. Then next Monday to the gym to begin a light regimen of 60 min. work outs at least three times a week.
This is important .......health wise. Hope I can do it. [bang]
Looking to go from 240#'s down to below 200#'s.
LA
we've all been here (DMF/ and DML previously) for more than a year and we all met here. We can all be better/healthier this time 2010. Awesome that you're making the change to your life. You absolutely can do it. I want to see a post before the end of 2009 that has you under 200.
Quote from: LA on January 13, 2009, 06:53:13 PM
OK ..... I started on Jan. 5th by giving up beer...
LA
Whoa Whoa Whoa, let's not get hasty here! ;D
Quote from: Statler on January 13, 2009, 07:00:56 PM
we've all been here (DMF/ and DML previously) for more than a year and we all met here. We can all be better/healthier this time 2010. Awesome that you're making the change to your life. You absolutely can do it. I want to see a post before the end of 2009 that has you under 200.
Or you're banninated! [cheeky]
Yeah beer and wine are my down fall but right now I ise them as a meal replacement [drink]
http://www.supercross.com/features/6-current-feature/1421-special-ride- (http://www.supercross.com/features/6-current-feature/1421-special-ride-)
Fatguyracer what do you think would be an average speed for a 3hour ride? I am good for an intense hour but 3hours.... :o
Quote from: RodeoClown on January 14, 2009, 06:33:43 AMFatguyracer what do you think would be an average speed for a 3hour ride? I am good for an intense hour but 3hours.... :o
How much climbing and how much headwind?
Quote from: somegirl on January 14, 2009, 05:20:54 PM
How much climbing and how much headwind?
Good question. Fortunately on the Shore we don't have hills, but I guess I am wondering what would be an average pace for a ride? I know these are not pro cyclist, I personally could not imagine getting an avg of more than 20mph for 3 hour. I know dudes like Baylis can crush pedals pretty good but I figure Nicky and esp. Roger are more along my lines of fitness?
6 x .1 mile
6 x .25 mile
2 x .5 mile
far too many pushups
that is all.
crap week. ate anything and everything and then had seconds.
drank like a fish too.
sucks that one week can show so quickly around the middle.
I'd go workout now but hey, we have guests coming in about ten minutes to....drink like fish. convenient.
do we need a seperate backslide on getting fit thread?
fack.
In my head I know I just keep going and not dwell on it and just get back into the routine. But it's hard to not get pissed at yourself.
side note...anyone else put sticky notes on the alarm clock saying 'don't hit snooze you fat bastard' or is that just me?
^^^^ I used to have this on the bathroom mirror (when I was training for selection).
"Do or do not, there is no try"
Help is on the way.
I'm thinking of going the Team in Training (TNT) route to get ready for a Century ride in Tahoe in June.
Anyone else ever participated w/ TNT?
Spent the day at an Olympic Lift Seminar. Nothing like 6hrs of drills an "O" lifts to get your attention. [thumbsup]
http://www.crossfitwarehouse.com/newsite/blog/video/beijing_550lb_cj.wmv (http://www.crossfitwarehouse.com/newsite/blog/video/beijing_550lb_cj.wmv)
http://www.crossfitwarehouse.com/newsite/blog/video/beijing_206kg_snatch.wmv (http://www.crossfitwarehouse.com/newsite/blog/video/beijing_206kg_snatch.wmv)
Quote from: Statler on January 17, 2009, 03:47:46 PM
crap week. ate anything and everything and then had seconds.
drank like a fish too.
sucks that one week can show so quickly around the middle.
I'd go workout now but hey, we have guests coming in about ten minutes to....drink like fish. convenient.
do we need a seperate backslide on getting fit thread?
fack.
In my head I know I just keep going and not dwell on it and just get back into the routine. But it's hard to not get pissed at yourself.
side note...anyone else put sticky notes on the alarm clock saying 'don't hit snooze you fat bastard' or is that just me?
(http://andrewteman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/nomorefattys.gif)
;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 17, 2009, 09:28:00 PM
(http://andrewteman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/nomorefattys.gif)
;D
printing two copies. one for bar, one for fridge. :-*
WoD Me
CFWU X2
Hang power clean 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 reps 105-115-125-135-145-145-145
Handstand practice-30sec holds x10
Quote from: Statler on January 18, 2009, 08:00:29 AM
printing two copies. one for bar, one for fridge. :-*
I added another copy for ya.... [thumbsup] [laugh]
Today was recovery. Not from workout, unfortunately, but from a farewell party last night. Ugh.
All will return to normal tomorrow.
Quote from: ducpainter on January 18, 2009, 03:43:07 PM
I added another copy for ya.... [thumbsup] [laugh]
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [clap]
i thought he did that!
Life changes in an instant, and unfortunately the stress of it all has made me terribly ill. I'm having a really rough time keeping food down from it all. I tried working out last Monday and puked in round 3 of 4. I did hit a new back squat PR by 25 lbs (from 148 to 173). Tuesday I got fed up with myself, got frustrated, ran out of steam, and had to walk out on a workout. I've never walked out on a workout before. EVER. I was only able to pull my last weight on dead lift. It's only the second time I haven't set a new PR for myself. The last time I didn't set a new PR, I had gone 3 days in a row and was pretty overtrained. I was going to work out today, but going in feeling queasy doesn't bode well, so I bailed. I'll try again tomorrow. I just want this feeling to go away. I want to feel strong again.
hope you are feeling better soon ducatista :-\
WoD Me
"Mr Joshua" in honor of; CFWU x1
SO1 Joshua Thomas Harris, 36, drowned during combat operations, August 30th 2008 in Afghanistan. WoD 26:02
Pack: HSPU practice
Five rounds for time of:
Run 400 meters
15 Glute-ham sit-ups
185 pound Deadlift, 15 reps
Wow, I took a week off from working out and I felt it Big Time today. [laugh] Did my usual BodyPump class at the Y, and I was getting shaky near the end. It's amazing how soft ya get after just a few days off.
Still losing weight, though. [that's a good thing] Down to 214 now and feeling really good about it. That's a reduction of 21 pounds in 10 months. [thumbsup]
I'm 7 days into a 30 day Master Cleanse fast. Working out starts on day 10. yea
Just something that I came across online today that may interest some of you who like using your Nintendo Wii for some fitness diversity:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/01/press_image03-1.jpg)
According to the manufacturer, they will be available in 2lb and 5lb increments (initially).
Here's the website:
http://www.riiflex.com/index.html (http://www.riiflex.com/index.html)
WoD Me
Pack: CFWU X1
5 rounds
25 # barbell overhead walking lunges 50 feet 18:12
21 burpees
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on January 21, 2009, 06:30:00 PM
Wow, I took a week off from working out and I felt it Big Time today. [laugh] Did my usual BodyPump class at the Y, and I was getting shaky near the end. It's amazing how soft ya get after just a few days off.
Still losing weight, though. [that's a good thing] Down to 214 now and feeling really good about it. That's a reduction of 21 pounds in 10 months. [thumbsup]
what Y do you work out at? I go to the MPLS downtown Y for the 11:45/11:50 classes M-F. Spinning on Monday and Wednesday, weights on tues/thurs and I am going to try Yoga on Fridays starting next week. Andover Y on Saturday for the 12:45 spinning class.
Quote from: Stu Pedasso on January 23, 2009, 02:06:09 PM
what Y do you work out at? I go to the MPLS downtown Y for the 11:45/11:50 classes M-F. Spinning on Monday and Wednesday, weights on tues/thurs and I am going to try Yoga on Fridays starting next week. Andover Y on Saturday for the 12:45 spinning class.
I am a regular at the "Northeast Family" Y in White Bear Lake - it's only about 2 miles away from my house. I occasionally go the Woodbury location for classes or when Wifey and I want to swim with our kids. They have a really nice zero-depth pool that's fun to play around in. [thumbsup]
I'm guessing that you work in downtown MPLS? I've heard that the downtown Y is a nice facility (if a bit busy).
WoD Me
“CrossFit Total†CFWU x2
Back squat, 1 rep 225
Shoulder Press, 1 rep 135
Deadlift, 1 rep 250
HSPU 2x5/Turkish get-up 45#
WoD Me
Pack: CFWU
“Barbara liteâ€
Five rounds, each for time of: 3min rest between sets 2:49
10 Pull-ups 2:52
20 Push-ups 3:00
30 Sit-ups 3:15
40 Squats 3:00
HSPU practice 3x5
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on January 23, 2009, 02:44:29 PM
I am a regular at the "Northeast Family" Y in White Bear Lake - it's only about 2 miles away from my house. I occasionally go the Woodbury location for classes or when Wifey and I want to swim with our kids. They have a really nice zero-depth pool that's fun to play around in. [thumbsup]
I'm guessing that you work in downtown MPLS? I've heard that the downtown Y is a nice facility (if a bit busy).
yeah, I work downtown. The Y is pretty busy down here, but it is spread out over 4 floors. The spinning class on Mon/Wed is usually full or just about full. Tues/Thurs has a waiting list. There are weights on floors 3 and 5. A lap pool on 3. THe Body pump and step classes are on 4, free weights, machines, racquet ball, running track and spinning on 5, and I havent been up to 6 yet.
WoD Me
Pack: CFWU X1
Four rounds for time of:
20 Glute-ham sit-ups (Limit ROM unles you are accustom to this movement) WoD 5:33
15 Back extensions HSPU practice 5x5
24" box jumps 3x10
Quote from: kopfjager on January 26, 2009, 05:30:06 PM
WoD Me
Pack: CFWU X1
Four rounds for time of:
20 Glute-ham sit-ups (Limit ROM unles you are accustom to this movement) WoD 5:33
15 Back extensions HSPU practice 5x5
24" box jumps 3x10
[laugh] This WOD should be nicknamed "The Flopping Fish"
Quote from: Stu Pedasso on January 26, 2009, 02:40:45 PM
yeah, I work downtown. The Y is pretty busy down here, but it is spread out over 4 floors. The spinning class on Mon/Wed is usually full or just about full. Tues/Thurs has a waiting list. There are weights on floors 3 and 5. A lap pool on 3. THe Body pump and step classes are on 4, free weights, machines, racquet ball, running track and spinning on 5, and I havent been up to 6 yet.
Looks like you hit the cardio stuff really hard. [clap]
I think a spinning class would prolly kill me... [laugh]
I really like the BodyPump classes. i actually look forward to it now.
I'm in Utah for a class, and I am sick like dog. You may not know this, but Utah in the winter is, on average, actually colder than Hawaii. Weird.
[cheeky]
But, I hit the (reasonably) well equipped hotel gym today.
1.5 mile treadmill warmup
4 x 15 side shoulder raises, row, press, and pullup (only 5@)
in the pool, 5 x 30 sec eggbeaters (as hard as possible), then 3 steady minutes
It made me feel a little better for a little while. [thumbsup]
Quote from: elTristo on January 26, 2009, 10:22:40 PM
It made me feel a little better for a little while. [thumbsup]
There was a great article written on the subject of working out when you're sick with a respiratory infection (it tested upper). Basically they found that while working out doesn't shorten the duration of the cold or speed healing, the participants who worked out moderately while sick reported fewer and less sever symptoms and more energy than those who did not exercise.
Quote from: Ducatista on January 27, 2009, 05:33:52 AM
There was a great article written on the subject of working out when you're sick with a respiratory infection (it tested upper). Basically they found that while working out doesn't shorten the duration of the cold or speed healing, the participants who worked out moderately while sick reported fewer and less sever symptoms and more energy than those who did not exercise.
That sounds about right, according to my oh-so scientific evaluation.
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on January 26, 2009, 05:34:37 PM
Looks like you hit the cardio stuff really hard. [clap]
I think a spinning class would prolly kill me... [laugh]
I really like the BodyPump classes. i actually look forward to it now.
The only workout I didnt get through for spinning was the first one. I learned to pace myself better so its not too bad. I am thinking about trying body pump over lunch on Thursday just to see what its all about.
Quote from: Stu Pedasso on January 27, 2009, 12:08:15 PM
The only workout I didnt get through for spinning was the first one. I learned to pace myself better so its not too bad. I am thinking about trying body pump over lunch on Thursday just to see what its all about.
I really like the BodyPump classes - I'd definitely encourage you to try it, if you're interested. [thumbsup]
You'll do lots of reps with relatively low weight on the bar. Like your spinning class, it's a good idea to pace yourself. BP will test your endurance, so start with conservative weight on the bar -- you can always add more. We see lots of weight-room regulars struggle with (and quit) BP classes - they often overestimate their endurance and get frustrated.
It'll take ~3 BP classes before you'll really feel like you know what you're doing. [that's the way it was for me, anyway [laugh]]
WoD Me
CFWU x2
Thruster 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 reps 115-125-135-140-145-150-155
HSPU practice 3x5
Put up 200 on military press today.
Actually feeling like I'm getting some strength back now!! [thumbsup]
I have a cold
I worked a 12hr shift
I went for a 5 mile hike in the wind and the rain and the ice
I fell down
I hate this fitness shit
Quote from: IZ on January 28, 2009, 05:43:35 PM
Put up 200 on military press today.
Actually feeling like I'm getting some strength back now!! [thumbsup]
I could set a machine to 200. You know, "put" it "up" to 200.
Does that count?
Quote from: Mother on January 28, 2009, 05:47:39 PM
I have a cold
I worked a 12hr shift
I went for a 5 mile hike in the wind and the rain and the ice
I fell down
I hate this fitness shit
J will get you in shape Mother! [thumbsup]
El T..not even close!! [cheeky] Now get off your azz and do it!!!
Quote from: IZ on January 28, 2009, 07:28:51 PM
J will get you in shape Mother! [thumbsup]
Hell yeah, I'm getting him in shape. Man's dating a youngster, needs to be in shape to keep up. [thumbsup]
Quote from: JBubble on January 28, 2009, 07:35:58 PM
Hell yeah, I'm getting him in shape. Man's dating a youngster, needs to be in shape to keep up. [thumbsup]
You need to marry Old Man Under The Mountain quick before the inevitable heart attack comes from trying to keep up with a 24 y/o!!
Welp-down to 205. Getting there. Belt has seen a new notch.
Starting to look better too.
I hate the crowded gyms though-stop hanging out having a chat on the bench and lift or move. Lame.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 29, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
Welp-down to 205. Getting there. Belt has seen a new notch.
Starting to look better too.
I hate the crowded gyms though-stop hanging out having a chat on the bench and lift or move. Lame.
[thumbsup]
216 here... but more importantly down to 19% fat!
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 29, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
Welp-down to 205. Getting there. Belt has seen a new notch.
Starting to look better too.
;D [thumbsup]
I've moved up to bench presses at 85 pounds...10 reps is challenging but I squeaked them out last night.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 29, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
stop hanging out having a chat on the bench and lift or move. Lame.
You will never see that at a CF facility, ever.
WoD Me
“Elizabeth†CFWU x2
21-15-9 reps of: 11:30
Clean 95 pounds
Dips HSPU 3x5
Quote from: Stu Pedasso on January 27, 2009, 12:08:15 PM
I am thinking about trying body pump over lunch on Thursday just to see what its all about.
Did ya get into a BP class?
Curious to hear what you think about it...
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on January 29, 2009, 09:22:26 PM
Did ya get into a BP class?
Curious to hear what you think about it...
I had a 1:00 meeting with my boss and the BP class was at 12:35. I ended up going over at 10 am to do some upper body work on the machines. Taking today off and spinning tomorrow with the wife up in Andover.
Hiking
Hiking
hiking
and hiking tomorrow
I is sore
Took a few days off.
I went to UFC Sat night and was watching the TV at an awkward angle (partially sitting & standing).
Sunday came. I woke up and got out of bed and dropped!! :-[
Went in to brush my teeth. My midsection looked like a rag when you ring water out of it. TWISTED!! :-[ ??? ???
I ended up dropping after I tried to straighten myself out. THen had to slide on my back to the living room using only arm strength (cuz my legs bent and locked).
About 3000mg of Ibuprofin and I'm feeling OK today.
Argh..just when I get into a groove at the gym, I have these types of setbacks!!
Frustrating!
Planning to get in there tomorrow though!! [thumbsup]
Lack of sustenance.
Probably too much turkey bacon.
Travel schedule and being sick interfering with working out, makes me grumpy. >:(
Quote from: somegirl on February 03, 2009, 08:02:58 PM
Travel schedule and being sick interfering with working out, makes me grumpy. >:(
hope you feel better soon :-\ :)
Today was the 3rd day in a row hiking up ZigZag Mtn
Meet Steve, he is like herm, one of those sick make the beast with two backss that plays in the burning forest
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Hiking
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and Hiking
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and Hiking...he keeps getting farther away
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/3254335268_e23e0187f6.jpg?v=0)
and waiting on Jacob
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and more hiking
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/3254335794_0df25c0b2b.jpg?v=0)
and more waiting on Jacob...make the beast with two backsing Wildland guys...bastards
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3441/3254336054_e680dc580d.jpg?v=0)
Finally the Brittany stops now we can go back down
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3hrs of cardio, 2hrs up and an hour down, 4 1/2miles up and the same down at a jog
I need new feet skin and a new (L) knee
What, no pics of Jacob? :'(
Quote from: JBubble on February 04, 2009, 03:23:26 PM
What, no pics of Jacob? :'(
no
I have no need for pics of me having a 3hr AMI
that's a great workout jacob [thumbsup]
did you notice any improvement on day 3? what's the elevation gain?
and where's the snow? ;D
same time frame 3 days in a row, first day was 2 miles up, 2nd was 3 miles and the third was 4 1/2. we had enough time left to hit 5 miles but when Gus laid down we used it as an excuse to take a 15 minute break to let him rest...it was the humane thing to do
the exact elevation gain is unknown but we are guessing around 1800 feet...we started out at 1200 and were looking across the valley pretty much level with another mountain that has a 3000 foot summit. and the snow starts at about 3500, it has been really warm lately
the first 2 days I think the dogs covered easily 4 times the distance we did ranging through the forest hunting shadows, by day 3 the just plodded along the trail ahead of us
awesome! keep up the good work, and take care of that knee :)
Good looking dog Jacob. I saw the nose in one shot and thought how much it looked like my Owen. Then the full dog pic and saw half of Owen. He is a Brittany/St. Bernard mix.
(http://czaja.smugmug.com/photos/460425761_eJqaF-M.jpg)
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on February 05, 2009, 08:18:06 AM
Good looking dog Jacob. I saw the nose in one shot and thought how much it looked like my Owen. Then the full dog pic and saw half of Owen. He is a Brittany/St. Bernard mix.
(http://czaja.smugmug.com/photos/460425761_eJqaF-M.jpg)
Here's the same dog at Thanksgiving. Its not ours but boy is he a cutie.
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v428/213/83/7202497/n7202497_32371672_3092.jpg)
WoD Me
Pack: CFWU x2
Five rounds for time of:
1.5 pood Kettlebell swings, 15 reps
15 GHD Sit-ups << 17:35
15 Back Extensions
15 Knees to Elbows HSPU 3x5
5 miles Monday, lifted some Tuesday, 5 miles Wed and Thurs. cardio week for me. Hope to get to gym at lunch between dockets.
Woohoo! Did 15 miles on the road bike the other day. Holding steady at 125, after the move I'll be able to ride some more and build up more stamina. Yay!
WoD Me
CFWU x2
Shoulder press 1-1-1-1-1 reps
Push press 3-3-3-3-3 reps < 95-105-115-125-135
Push Jerk 5-5-5-5-5 reps
HSPU 3x5
It's been weird getting the workouts in... I've been in a hotel in Utah for 2 weeks now. lots of treadmilling (which is yucky), 3x / week on the climbing wall at "work", and a few other bits.
Today: 30 min treadmill intervals + Core stuff:
knees-to-elbows 2 x 8
oblique raises 2 x 12 x 35 lbs
stretched planks (arms forward about 45 degrees from body) 2 x 30 sec
turkish get-up w/30lb 5 each side
reg crunches etc.
a lot of detail for not really that much doin'. :P
better than nuthin tho, eh?
WoD Me
CFWU variant x2
Pack:
AMRAP in 15 Rd1 100m sprint/ SDHP/Pull-ups
Row 250 meters Rd2 24" Box jumps x20/SDHP/Pull-ups
Sumo deadlift highpull 95 pounds, 21 reps Rd3 Burpees x15 /SDHP/Pull-ups
Pull-ups 15 reps Rd4 Broad Jump x10/SDHP/Pull-ups
Made it thru the SDHP's on Rd 4 when timer went off
HSPU 2x10
Turkish Get-ups 55# x2
'Nother 15 miles today on the road bike. Gonna try for 20 this week.
Oh, and thanks MrInc for starting this thread. Its good encouragement without being judged. [thumbsup]
i've been serious about my diet and what i'm eating and drinking for the past month and it helped.
broke me through the plateau i've been stuck on.
i didn't think anyone could notice my flab turning into muscle,
but last week at the gym someone told me i look great and my hard work shows.
it made my week [thumbsup]
Ran 5 miles today. Averaged sub 10 minute miles! Monday is spin and run.
But is was much more enjoyable riding the Duc than running today!
Today's Hike was short, but a wicked uphill with a secondary photo op mission
1 hour in, 30 minutes out
2 miles round trip
850 foot gain
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=18989.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=18989.0)
Went back to the gym today. It was a necessity.
Spent last weekend on a X-C ski trip in Wisconsin with my family and lots of friends. We skied on both Saturday and Sunday. X-C skiiing is good cardio work, but any exercise benefits from the skiing were heavily outweighed by massive amounts of food+drink. Our condo was like living inside an all-you-can eat-and-drink cafeteria. [laugh]
[beer] [wine] [bacon] [beer] [wine] [popcorn] [bacon] [drink] [bang]
I've been on Vicodin for 3 weeks.
I lost 8 lbs.
Win-Win situation. Doped up on pain killers, lose weight!
Acutally, my last hospital visit (knee re-assembly) landed me there three days and I lost nearly 30lbs
JM
Something happened yesterday.
Got up, went to the gym. Normal Sunday workout -- 30 minutes of weights, 30 minutes of cardio.
Didn't push myself any harder than normal, actually took it a little easy.
4 hours later I was more sore than I've been in the last year.
Could barley move last night.
Had dreams that turned into halucinations all night. Would wake up and couldn't figure out where I was, how to move, and how to get up.
Still sore (not as bad) today...
Now I'm trying to debate working out today...
WoD Me
"Cindy" CFWU x2
Pack:
Complete as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of: 25 2/3 Rds
3 Pull-ups
6 Push-ups
9 Squats HSPU 2x10
Today
Spin 45 minutes
Rn 4 miles
I love "Cindy" might have to do that too!
Quote from: wbeck257 on February 09, 2009, 12:51:51 PM
Something happened yesterday.
Got up, went to the gym. Normal Sunday workout -- 30 minutes of weights, 30 minutes of cardio.
Didn't push myself any harder than normal, actually took it a little easy.
4 hours later I was more sore than I've been in the last year.
Could barley move last night.
Had dreams that turned into halucinations all night. Would wake up and couldn't figure out where I was, how to move, and how to get up.
Still sore (not as bad) today...
Now I'm trying to debate working out today...
Sounds like your body is trying to tell you something.
Do you ever take a day off?
If not, do your body a favor and take one. [beer]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 09, 2009, 11:29:20 AM
I've been on Vicodin for 3 weeks.
I lost 8 lbs.
It's the "House, MD" diet!
Hunchback Mtn
1hr in, 30min out
3 miles round trip
1000 foot gain
Quote from: wbeck257 on February 09, 2009, 12:51:51 PM
Something happened yesterday.
Got up, went to the gym. Normal Sunday workout -- 30 minutes of weights, 30 minutes of cardio.
Didn't push myself any harder than normal, actually took it a little easy.
4 hours later I was more sore than I've been in the last year.
Could barley move last night.
Had dreams that turned into halucinations all night. Would wake up and couldn't figure out where I was, how to move, and how to get up.
Still sore (not as bad) today...
Now I'm trying to debate working out today...
Um... that ain't good. How well do you hydrate?
Quote from: trenner on February 09, 2009, 03:38:42 PM
It's the "House, MD" diet!
It's the shit diet.
I've been on and off them (legally) for about 3.5mons until my shoulder surgery.
Finally am off them and withdrawl was (is) nasty.
Guess it's as good a time as any to start setting my fitness goals for the "recovery".
Quick back story for those that didn't hear it, I was riding a dirtbike back on January 17th when I crashed and the bike managed to cartwheel on top of me breaking my pelvis in two places.
Since then I've been able to crutch around with a barely weight bearing right leg and only touch down weight on the left.
I have a doctors appointment this Thursday were I expect to be told that I can begin putting weight on the left again. Which thankfully means I can start relearning to walk! ;D
And it means I can start working again on the fitness goals I had set for myself at the beginning of the year, which was essentially;
weight at 175,
running 10 miles (this is now a super long term goal, running's going to be tough for awhile),
able to bench my weight or above,
10 pull ups,
50 pushups,
and 100 incline situps.
As for where I stand now;
Weight... unknown, have to find out at the doc's, I've gotten a bit pudgier, but I've lost a lot of muscle, so not sure where I am at. Was 180 before the accident.
Was running between 5 and 10 miles... now I'm winded crutching up the street, so this is pretty much back to nil.
Was doing 4 pull ups,
20 pushups
and 25 or so incline situps.
I know this is going to have to be taken super slow, with my first goal just being able to walk with a cane, but, I'm still hoping to get to my goals set at the beginning of the year! This should be a fun way to keep track of em. [thumbsup]
We're cheerin for you hon!
WoD Me
CFWU x2
Deadlift 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 reps 205-215-225-245-265-285-300
HSPU 2x10
Stella and I have joined the Team In Training program. We will both be riding 100 miles around Lake Tahoe in June to support the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society's efforts to stop blood cancers.
We'll start training with the other local riders this and every following Saturday.
[thumbsup]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 10, 2009, 08:41:10 PM
Stella and I have joined the Team In Training program. We will both be riding 100 miles around Lake Tahoe in June to support the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society's efforts to stop blood cancers.
We'll start training with the other local riders this and every following Saturday.
[thumbsup]
Nice! I'm training for the Solvang ride in March.
This past weekend I rode 85 miles (55/30). This weekend I'm aiming for 100 miles [thumbsup]
Completed one of my first goals!
Managed to crutch .3 of a mile up the street to a Starbucks for breakfast. [laugh]
I'm still chuckling to myself, I'm more winded after that then I used to be after running several miles. [coffee]
Time to eat, drink my coffee, read the paper, and basically kill as much time as possible before attempting the return trip. [clap]
[popcorn]
[thumbsup] [clap]
Keep it up.
Goals are easier to obtain if taken in small steps. [coffee]
Well -- whatever weird body failure happened Sunday is gone.
Monday sucked, I felt like I had the energy in me, but not stregth. I got the rode bike out and rode my normal distance (16 miles) but it took me almost 25 minutes longer. I just couldn't go.
Yesterday however felt great -- ran. Felt good lifting too.
Today looks like a day off -- getting held over at work for storms to pass. I guess my workout might be cutting down trees and pulling in new wire.
Hiking
in the snow...bleh
zumba workout tonight
it's an hour long cardio class, inspired by latin dance
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on February 11, 2009, 05:27:30 PM
zumba workout tonight
it's an hour long cardio class, inspired by latin dance
And a backup heat source for when the power goes out.
Quote from: Ducatista on January 05, 2009, 07:48:59 PM
Has anyone started planning goals for 2009? I worked on mine and have 10 of them. I wanted them to be a mix of everything. Here they are:
8. Erg a 1:50 500m. I'm pretty sure I'm close. I know I can still bang out a sub 2:00, but I don't know how much it will take out of me to take off another 10 seconds, which is why I'm being a little less aggressive on this one.
Hey, I know It's kind of an old post, But I have some advice on this one.
I was captain of my 8+ crew for a year, and can tell you that proper form will do an incredible difference to your times.
We used to have to erg 10km a day. It's pretty grueling.
First off, 70% of the power comes from your legs. Concentrate on really exploding and maintaining even pressure with the legs.
This video is really good on technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXnKyJdA01w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXnKyJdA01w)
Really concentrate on keeping your back straight and pulling to nipple height. Remember, dont move your back until your entire leg stroke is done, dont pull with your arms until your back pull is complete.
The return is just a reverse of this, take it easy, Coming back too quickly will only serve to get you out of rhythm.
Concentrate on power, You should be fine with about 34 spm.
Good luck! Any questions, let me know!
Quote from: Obsessed? on February 11, 2009, 06:08:16 PM
And a backup heat source for when the power goes out.
[laugh]
My Jeep died, and I'm waiting for my replacement starter to come, so I have been forced to ride my bike everywhere. Luckily for me I'm only a couple miles from work. I think I'll keep riding once I get the Jeep back together. My new gps makes it fun too.
Get your ass in the gym.
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Had good weather this last week.
noticed the scale moving in the wrong direction.
ran 27 miles for the week.
I hate running, but the pounds go away sooooo fast.
For 7 days that's not much time per day either.
found the shoes I like on closeout because Asics upgraded the model, so I got two pairs...one for now and one for six months from now.
So I would do a set of dips and pullups, go run, and then do a set of dips and pullups.
I've been running a lot latley -- w/ my $9 running shoes I bought at a gas station.
I'm thinking about upgrading.
More cycling this weekend [thumbsup]
Saturday - 60 miles
Sunday - 30 miles
This week, I'll be doing more core training
Hello. My (screen) name is Statler. When I am unhappy I eat unhealthy foods and drink like a fish.
(took day off)
Update!
I can now take a few steps without any support annddd
my vicodin/lack of mobility diet has actually got me down to 174 pounds. :o
11 pounds in the last month. Granted, most of the weight came from my legs which are now half the size they were. [laugh]
Still, getting lower then 175 was one of my goals this year, not the best way to do it, but I'll take it. [clap]
As of tomorrow I've got the okay to start putting weight on my left leg again. From there on it, it's off to the races. ;D
Great job!!! [thumbsup]
Awesome news!! [clap]
Yay!!! Congrats, Jamie!! [clap]
Guess now I'll have to go visit again when you are no longer cripple hehe enjoy that Vicadin now (but not too much, of course)! [cheeky]
He even managed to sit on his 620 the other day...not sure how he did it but [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: Jammen on February 25, 2009, 08:42:09 AM
As of tomorrow I've got the okay to start putting weight on my left leg again. From there on it, it's off to the races. ;D
Right on! Glad to hear you're making progress.
I had a milestone moment today. One of my good friends invited me to have lunch with him. Instead of indulging in a big lunch (likely followed by a game of foosball with his office mates), I turned down the offer and went to workout at the gym instead.
I can't remember the last time I opted to go to the gym instead of indulging in an expense-account lunch. [laugh]
Well, I'm down 60lbs from my start a little less than a year ago.
I guess that makes me at 60% of my goal.
Quote from: wbeck257 on February 26, 2009, 03:15:03 PM
Well, I'm down 60lbs from my start a little less than a year ago.
I guess that makes me at 60% of my goal.
Awesome! [thumbsup]
I have a 10 mile race this Sunday... Hopefully I can keep up the pace. I did sub 1hour 20 minutes last year. Not feeling as strong, but I hope not to be too far off pace? Good job to everyone on here bustin butt [thumbsup]
El Matador taught me how to erg today - he was a complete Nazi about it and now I feel like Jammen probably has more body mobility than I do right now :'(
Quote from: DesmoLu on February 26, 2009, 10:22:37 PM
El Matador taught me how to erg today - he was a complete Nazi about it and now I feel like Jammen probably has more body mobility than I do right now :'(
You're probably right. ;)
(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/jamie-ride-02.JPG)
(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/jamie-ride-03.JPG)
Screw being gimpy. ;D
your recovery from your accident is remarkable jamie [thumbsup]
10 mile run 73mins! I was pretty stoked b/c the weather was crappy.
Back to spinning, I hate running!
Healthy snack thread!
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21888.msg389358#msg389358 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21888.msg389358#msg389358)
Woohoo!
Still plowing forward on getting back to good. ;D
Picked up a road bike last week and have been riding back and forth to work (2.5 miles one way) and going out pedaling any chance I can get.
Two rides of 18 and 22 miles over the weekend, including some fun hill climbs! Thanks Somegirl!
Weight's pretty steady at 175, though I think the new goal is to pedal my way down to 170, since I know it's possible. Was down below 170 at one "low point".
Think at this point it's mostly just diet, getting plenty of cardio. [thumbsup]
As to my original goals;
Up to 35 pushups at a run just 15 more, and doing 100 or so every morning in sets of 20.
No pull ups yet, don't have a good way to do them in the morning, so they'll have to wait till I can get back to the gym.
No running yet, but that 10 mile running goal has shifted more towards pedaling for 50 mile ride. Halfway there. [thumbsup]
200 crunches and 30 leg lifts a morning, again, no good place for the incline situps, so more crunches it is. [laugh]
Figure at this point, if I can make it down to 170 lbs and pedaling 50 miles at a time, then it'll be time to head back to the gym and start strength training.
I'll be better then new in no time. ;D
After a long hiatus from this thread, I've decided to let people know what I've been doing.
- I haven't done a consecutive dead hang pull up test in a few weeks, but last time it was 7.
- 3 +20 lb weighted pull ups
- 1 +25 lb weighted pull up (I'm pretty sure that's 30 lbs now)
- Dead lift is now up to 223 for a 1 rep max and 213 for a 3 rep max. Can you say I just need to get my head out of my tush and lift more?
- Back squat is up to 178 for a 5 rep max
- Front squat is up to 133 for a 3 rep max
- Overhead squat is up to 93 lbs for a 1 rep max
- Cleans are up to 98 lbs for a 5 rep max (touch and go)
- Jerk about 2 months ago was 103 lbs
- Shoulder press is slow going at 73 lbs :(
- I'm going to try an arms only 20'+ rope climb today. I'll let you know how it goes.
- Most of the workouts I used to do in 15-20 mins I now do in less than 10 mins.
- I can rip off a 1:40 500m erg (or row for you non-crew people)
- No shin splints at all since I started running in Vibram Five Fingers
- For workouts involving kettlebell swings, I'm now giving up the 20 kg and moving up to the 24 kg and just killing myself. [evil]
- For workouts involving wall balls, I'm up to the 16 lb medicine ball
- My nerve impingement in my shoulder has resolved itself
So that's where I've gone in the last few months. I'm now back into most of my size 4 clothing and am dropping below 20% body fat, which ain't bad coming from being a fatty in December. Nutrition, nutrition, nutrition... Oh, and I gave away the jeans that fit me in December this weekend. [thumbsup] I passed them onto a girl who is dropping sizes herself and didn't want to be buying clothing in every size on the way down.
I'm seeing some good things in this thread!
I am on week 4 of my fitness journey.
We alternate weeks...strength and endurance with a pretty varied workout each day that focuses on certain sections of the body.
M- usually upper body, arms, shoulders.
T- up to 12 miles on the bike doing it HIIT from my original first week runs of 7 miles. Doing the 12 miles in a little under the time i did my first 7 mile.
W- "core" body work
Th- Same bike HIIT
F- Lower body/legs. I love this workout because my legs I have always been proud of. I leg pressed 4x10reps at 390 without breaking a sweat during endurance week. My goal for this Friday during Strength week is to go for 450+. And of course all of the other lower body/leg workouts are a competition for the guys in my group to show off for the girls in our group hehe.
Sat.- Same Bike HIIT. I am working on finding a 15 - 20 mile route to do an moving my HIIT workouts to after work instead of on my lunches.
Sun.- Off day. Means lesiurely bike rides, long walks, hiking, etc.
So far, I am down 8 lbs over when I started...I think most of that is simply because of changing my eating habits and the cardio. My clothes are fitting comfortably again and I feel guilty if there is the off chance I may miss a workout. I am going to do 3 months of the structured workout with a personal trainer and then I will break off on my own and do my own workouts. As long as I can keep myself motivated, i shouldn't have a problem...
OMG! I just decided to start getting back in shape today... though it's been fermenting in my mind for awhile.
Weights, bike riding and eating healthy, I'm already pretty active between playing with my 2 year old all day and serving at the Outback at night. In order to maximize the activity level though, it'll be bike rides to the park instead playing in the backyard, plus we'll be pedalling down to the store instead of driving(assuming it's a small run). I wouldn't mind pedalling to work too as I really enjoy bicycling but I don't wanna be stinky sweaty for my shift.
As for eating healthier, it already sucks. I enjoy plenty of healthy food, but I love me my ice-cream before bed. And soda too, never realized how much soda I drank until I started stopping, I know water is better for me but BORING! I will be keeping coffee, and ice tea. Anyway hoping to start improving my health and cardio, might start doing a little MMA training with some friends too. ;D
Quote from: Ducatista on April 29, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
After a long hiatus from this thread, I've decided to let people know what I've been doing.
- I haven't done a consecutive dead hang pull up test in a few weeks, but last time it was 7.
- 3 +20 lb weighted pull ups
- 1 +25 lb weighted pull up (I'm pretty sure that's 30 lbs now)
- Dead lift is now up to 223 for a 1 rep max and 213 for a 3 rep max. Can you say I just need to get my head out of my tush and lift more?
- Back squat is up to 178 for a 5 rep max
- Front squat is up to 133 for a 3 rep max
- Overhead squat is up to 93 lbs for a 1 rep max
- Cleans are up to 98 lbs for a 5 rep max (touch and go)
- Jerk about 2 months ago was 103 lbs
- Shoulder press is slow going at 73 lbs :(
- I'm going to try an arms only 20'+ rope climb today. I'll let you know how it goes.
- Most of the workouts I used to do in 15-20 mins I now do in less than 10 mins.
- I can rip off a 1:40 500m erg (or row for you non-crew people)
- No shin splints at all since I started running in Vibram Five Fingers
- For workouts involving kettlebell swings, I'm now giving up the 20 kg and moving up to the 24 kg and just killing myself. [evil]
- For workouts involving wall balls, I'm up to the 16 lb medicine ball
- My nerve impingement in my shoulder has resolved itself
So that's where I've gone in the last few months. I'm now back into most of my size 4 clothing and am dropping below 20% body fat, which ain't bad coming from being a fatty in December. Nutrition, nutrition, nutrition... Oh, and I gave away the jeans that fit me in December this weekend. [thumbsup] I passed them onto a girl who is dropping sizes herself and didn't want to be buying clothing in every size on the way down.
I'm seeing some good things in this thread!
Sounds like you're into CrossFit or some form of fitness like that....very Cool. Regardless, keep up with the work, i sounds like you're doing a great job!
***Disclaimer*** I"m not here to start a CrossFit vs GloboGym debate, I'm just making a comment. Whatever you choose to do is your choice, at least you're all doing something :)!
Just weighed myself this morning and I'm at an even 160
My current status:
Deadlift 325
Squat: 305 (Full ROM)
Shoulder Press: 155
35 Consecutive pull-ups
8:58 on a 1.5 mile run
7 Consecutive Ring Muscle-Ups
My Goals are to maintain the same weight or at least stay between 155-160 (I'm 5ft 9) and....
Squat:350
Shoulder press: 160+
45 Consecutive Pull-ups
Dead Lift: 400
Run 1.5 miles in 8:30 or better
Over Head Squat my body weight 15 times
10+ consecutive Ring Muscle-ups
Get a good Snatch ;)
Quote from: Peyton696 on April 30, 2009, 03:32:29 AM
Just weighed myself this morning and I'm at an even 160
My current status:
Deadlift 325
Squat: 305 (Full ROM)
Shoulder Press: 155
35 Consecutive pull-ups
8:58 on a 1.5 mile run
7 Consecutive Ring Muscle-Ups
My Goals are to maintain the same weight or at least stay between 155-160 (I'm 5ft 9) and....
Squat:350
Shoulder press: 160+
45 Consecutive Pull-ups
Dead Lift: 400
Run 1.5 miles in 8:30 or better
Over Head Squat my body weight 15 times
10+ consecutive Ring Muscle-ups
Get a good Snatch ;)
Just as a comparative reference and to let you know that your goals are definitely doable, the guy who owns the place i work out at set 4 national power lifting records a few weeks ago in the 165lb weight class...he weighs 160lbs like you and his dead lift record is 530lbs. ;)
Quote from: ZLTFUL on April 30, 2009, 08:29:42 AM
Just as a comparative reference and to let you know that your goals are definitely doable, the guy who owns the place i work out at set 4 national power lifting records a few weeks ago in the 165lb weight class...he weighs 160lbs like you and his dead lift record is 530lbs. ;)
I'm guessing he's not 6'2" though...
I remember in Monterey I was considering (VERY briefly) entering a competition. I knew I didn't have anything like a chance, but it was still motivation. I looked at the previous year's numbers. The bench winner was 300+ lbs for my weight category (170 at the time). He was 5'6". Short arms and legs make a world of difference in power lifting.
Bet I could run twice as fast as him though [thumbsup]
last night, i noticed in my strength endurance training class
that i can do push ups for 2 minutes without a break
i know it's not that big of a deal to most of you, but i'm happy about it!
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on May 01, 2009, 03:30:19 AM
last night, i noticed in my strength endurance training class
that i can do push ups for 2 minutes without a break
i know it's not that big of a deal to most of you, but i'm happy about it!
That IS a big deal. Good for you! [thumbsup]
Yeah 'Tini! [beer]
Yup...pretty big deal. Way to go!
Well...today was my one month measurements...
And the verdict is...lowered my body fat by 8.7% in 4 weeks. He measured 3 times and did the numbers 4 times to make sure.
Odd part is, on his scale, I have only lost 4 lbs. But then my waist has dropped 3 inches...
I'm liking this actually seeing results crap.
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 01, 2009, 11:51:01 AM
Well...today was my one month measurements...
And the verdict is...lowered my body fat by 8.7% in 4 weeks. He measured 3 times and did the numbers 4 times to make sure.
Odd part is, on his scale, I have only lost 4 lbs. But then my waist has dropped 3 inches...
I'm liking this actually seeing results crap.
I agree - it's great to see results. [thumbsup]
The only downside (if you could call it that) is that you'll soon be shopping for new clothes that fit properly. ;D
I am looking forward to that part. Lord knows I don't buy myself clothes often enough.
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 01, 2009, 12:18:25 PM
I am looking forward to that part. Lord knows I don't buy myself clothes often enough.
Get a pinkie ring and a big gold chain. Those hot-ass pregnant doges in Iowa won't know what hit them! [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 01, 2009, 12:18:25 PM
I am looking forward to that part. Lord knows I don't buy myself clothes often enough.
Yeah, it's kinda scary getting to the point where my pants are seriously falling off and I'm running out of holes in the old belt.
There are worse things, but man, I hate shopping. [laugh]
Quote from: Sinister on May 01, 2009, 12:23:10 PM
Get a pinkie ring and a big gold chain. Those hot-ass pregnant doges in Iowa won't know what hit them! [laugh] [laugh]
Well I DO have a big silver rope...pinky ring though...
Nice Z! Seeing progress helps keep up the motivation. [thumbsup]
Quote from: somegirl on May 01, 2009, 05:05:18 PM
Nice Z! Seeing progress helps keep up the motivation. [thumbsup]
All I know is I am eyeballin' the asparagus in yer avatar...
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 01, 2009, 11:51:01 AM
Well...today was my one month measurements...
And the verdict is...lowered my body fat by 8.7% in 4 weeks. He measured 3 times and did the numbers 4 times to make sure.
Odd part is, on his scale, I have only lost 4 lbs. But then my waist has dropped 3 inches...
I'm liking this actually seeing results crap.
Hell yes! Congrats. It's great to hear about that kind of stuff. Knowing what you're doing is working is one of the biggest motivators to keep doing it and keep pushing. Keep it up!
Quote from: Peyton696 on May 02, 2009, 01:58:27 PM
Hell yes! Congrats. It's great to hear about that kind of stuff. Knowing what you're doing is working is one of the biggest motivators to keep doing it and keep pushing. Keep it up!
I did about 200 crunches just for giggles after mowing the lawn...and when I went to get up I found out just how out of shape my abs really are hehe
Stella and I did 64 miles on the roadies today.
Not sure how much total elevation we climbed, as there was a bunch.
Part of the ride included a completely fogged in Lookout Mountain in Golden. Looks to be a 1,500+ vertical climb in about 5 miles. :o
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 02, 2009, 05:44:56 PM
Stella and I did 64 miles on the roadies today.
Not sure how much total elevation we climbed, as there was a bunch.
Part of the ride included a completely fogged in Lookout Mountain in Golden. Looks to be a 1,500+ vertical climb in about 5 miles. :o
Sounds fun! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 02, 2009, 05:44:56 PM
Stella and I did 64 miles on the roadies today on the Ducs.
[cheeky]
Z, [clap] Stay motivated!
I think I may drive out next November so I can bring my bike with me...I'm thinking Alderfer/Three Sisters will be way more fun on 2 wheels than on foot hehe.
And my rides aren't endurance...I use them for my HIIT. Although...the 400+ mile bike ride across Iowa in August is sounding tempting...
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 02, 2009, 09:25:49 PM
I think I may drive out next November so I can bring my bike with me...I'm thinking Alderfer/Three Sisters will be way more fun on 2 wheels than on foot hehe.
[thumbsup]
Score! Managed to ride 57.5 miles today on the road bike with Somegirl! Have to let her post up how far we climbed, but it was great!
Guess my next goal will have to be 100 miles. Maybe another week or two at this rate? [laugh]
I'm so gonna die. :P
Nother week or two of this and it'll be back to strength training. ;D
Ate 2 chocolate covered strawberries...first non-diet related consumption of food in a month...and my body protested with some nasty stomach aches. Think I am sticking to my protein bars for sweet snacks...
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 03, 2009, 03:34:28 PM
Ate 2 chocolate covered strawberries...first non-diet related consumption of food in a month...and my body protested with some nasty stomach aches. Think I am sticking to my protein bars for sweet snacks...
Yeah, you'll find that once you've given up stuff for awhile and you no longer have cravings for them, it will cause digestive upset when you do "cheat". Looks like you're making a lot of progress!
Quote from: Jammen on May 03, 2009, 03:29:32 PM
Score! Managed to ride 57.5 miles today on the road bike with Somegirl! Have to let her post up how far we climbed, but it was great!
Guess my next goal will have to be 100 miles. Maybe another week or two at this rate? [laugh]
Jammen climbed 4800' and I rode 73 miles, 7100'. Mostly through the pouring rain. Nice job. [thumbsup] [beer]
Quote from: Ducatista on May 03, 2009, 03:36:19 PM
Yeah, you'll find that once you've given up stuff for awhile and you no longer have cravings for them, it will cause digestive upset when you do "cheat". Looks like you're making a lot of progress!
People have always said that but I don't think it works for me. I just love food too much. Well, define "a while." I guess I've never gone very long. but seriously, a chocolate covered strawberry? THAT IS A FRUIT. it is diet food, right?
Anyone have any good advice for dealing with/ avoiding shin splints? My worthless shins are just the worst. ???
Quote from: DesmoLu on May 04, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
Anyone have any good advice for dealing with/ avoiding shin splints? My worthless shins are just the worst. ???
Your shins aren't the problem. Tight lower leg muscules and bad shoes are.
A good place to start would be a new pair of shoes. Try to get fit at reputable running shoe store, not a box store. See if you have a Fleet Feet Sports (http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/store-locations) in your area. Despite the chain store look, Fleet Feet franchises are independently, locally owned and operated by runners.
Ice massage with an ice cup (paper cup of water, frozen, peel paper back as it melts)
Stretch you calf muscle a lot. Draw circles and alphabet with your toes.
A good article with tips here (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-241-286-289-12604-0,00.html).
Quote from: DesmoLu on May 04, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
People have always said that but I don't think it works for me. I just love food too much. Well, define "a while." I guess I've never gone very long. but seriously, a chocolate covered strawberry? THAT IS A FRUIT. it is diet food, right?
Anyone have any good advice for dealing with/ avoiding shin splints? My worthless shins are just the worst. ???
It takes a good month for all the cravings to go away. We all have mild allergies of some nature or another, and if you avoid these foods for a long time and then suddenly have a small or moderate amount, it can lead to digestive upset. So it's not too hard to imagine.
As for shin splints, I have started running in my Vibram Five Fingers and have had zero problems with my shins at all. This is coming from the girl who had to give up high school track because of shin splints. There have been a few articles that have been written about simulated barefoot running, and the results have been interesting. If you don't want to go that far, definitely look into Pose running. It was a method of running that was developed decades ago that reduces injury significantly in runners. Runners are probably among the most chronically injured athletes. If that's the route you want to go, definitely look into this method. Simulated barefoot running forces you into Pose running.
New work out plan!
Got "dragged" (she was cute, it wasn't a hard sell) to go indoor rock climbing/bouldering yesterday and it rocked! ~rim shot~
Spent an hour and a half going clmibing up the walls, even managed to complete a V1 on the first day (which I've been told is good, I'se gots no ideas [laugh])
So, new long term goal, start climbing at least once a week and be able to complete a V4 in the next month or two. Random goal, since all I know about V4 is that it's supposed to be harder then novice. ;D
Climbing is fun. A great work out of all those little muscle that you never knew you had.
Down a few more pounds. [thumbsup]
Going to get back on the bicycle this week.
Aiming for a mini-Tri or Duathalon in beginning of Aug.
Ok, so I bailed on the workout of the day, but I did hit a new 5 rep max dead lift at 215 lbs.
My new body composition goal is to get my body fat percentage down into the mid teens. I'm around 20% right now. I think this is doable with a lot of hard work. It will also help if I just build a lot more muscle. [evil]
Still living up to my forum name.
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Its a shame that the most pro looking shot I have of me on a bicycle in a race makes me look like a whale.
(http://jkrawczyk.powweb.com//FGR_TurkeyHill_45race_01.jpg)
how far do you go in a day / how long does it take you?
Just got back from a HIIT run on the bike with a coworker. When we got back to the house, his response was, "How in the make the beast with two backs did we do 20 miles in 45 minutes?"
I was just as surprised as he was but instead of turning around at the bar at 6 miles from the house (great temptation there cause they fly in fresh oysters every day), we went to the south end of the trail which is exactly 9.9 miles from the house and made a little .5 mile detour on the way back.
Quote from: FatguyRacer on May 05, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
Its a shame that the most pro looking shot I have of me on a bicycle in a race makes me look like a whale.
Do whales really have quads the size of cannons and with that kind of definition? GEEZ, MAN!!!
Athletic ability and body fat composition I'm finding are less and less related unless what you're doing is primarily bodyweight kinds of stuff. Bicycles, because of the mechanical advantage, turns it surprisingly enough into a lot of strength and endurance, removing the weight component. Sure, it would be easier to pedal around a few less pounds, but it seems less important to maintain a lower body fat percentage in cycling than in running or gymnastics, where bodyweight is key. So if you're after it for performance, then whatever. If you're after it for a six pack, then priorities shift.
I'm rambling. That may make zero sense to anyone but me. It's late and I can't even figure out how many holes down to screw in the rails for my freaking kitchen drawers. I swear, renovating is going to drive me insane.
Quote from: Ducatista on May 05, 2009, 08:32:43 PMBicycles, because of the mechanical advantage, turns it surprisingly enough into a lot of strength and endurance, removing the weight component. Sure, it would be easier to pedal around a few less pounds, but it seems less important to maintain a lower body fat percentage in cycling than in running or gymnastics, where bodyweight is key.
Unless you do lots of climbing on the bike. There body weight is definitely key.
Quote from: somegirl on May 05, 2009, 09:25:11 PM
Unless you do lots of climbing on the bike. There body weight is definitely key.
Definitely!
I climb pretty well for a plus size cyclist. Except in a race where I get spit out the back as soon as the road goes vertical. I can race pretty well in flat crits, circuit races and time trial on flat roads. But I hate crits. So I'm trying to do my best to lose enough wieght to be decent in the road races that have lots of rolling terrrain and average climbs. I'll never make myself into Marco Pantani, but I can get to a point where I wont get dropped. My next road race is in Poolsville on the 23rd and its not too tough. The race in the photo was near Lancaster Pa last Saturday.
Since I have no will power to stop eating, I have to boost my fat burning milage to at least 200+ miles a week for about the next 2 months and still work in HIT too. I got in close to 600 miles in april and I missed alot of days early in the month. So far i've only missed 3 days training in the last 15. Based on my logs my trend is to lose about 5 lbs for every 500 miles ridden, so long as the 500 miles are in a short period of time and I average about 2500 calories a day.
Well I measured my BFC using one of those impedance thingies (read Magic 8 Ball) and it said I'm at 20%. I'd like to get into the mid teens. I'm not so much looking for the aesthetics of it, but the performance of knowing that my body has the ability to charge, expend, and recharge very quickly. Not to mention, the bodyweight exercises will be even easier. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Ducatista on May 09, 2009, 07:00:31 AMNot to mention, the bodyweight exercises will be even easier. [thumbsup]
Don't mention that to your trainer...I was doing horizontal pullups the other day and mentioned that they were getting easier...that's when my trainer set a 45lb plate on my stomach. Hehe.
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 09, 2009, 11:02:55 AM
Don't mention that to your trainer...I was doing horizontal pullups the other day and mentioned that they were getting easier...that's when my trainer set a 45lb plate on my stomach. Hehe.
Oh, yeah. Whenever my workout times drop below 10 minutes, my coach ups my weight. It never gets easier. I just find another gear.
Rocked 62 miles on the Felt today. Unfortunately, Lookout Mountain was closed 3/4 of the way up for downhill skateboard racing. However, I carried more speed up to that point today than last week. I also really cruised for the last 18 miles of the ride at a pace I would not have been able to maintain earlier in the year. [thumbsup]
Holy grip strength, Batman! I haven't had this much difficulty typing since I was first learning how to type. I did a workout today called Helen. 400m run, 21 kettlebell swings @ 16 kg, 12 pull ups for 3 rounds done in 14:49. All I could do was lie on the floor and hope my hands would open again.
How is everyone else doing?
Up and down, up and down. I have been dealing with a rotator cuff injury for a while now, so my upper body is essentially turning to mush. All run, bike, and squats. Hooray for squats. I assume your hands recovered enough to drive home?
Rode 85 miles on Saturday. Was not sore at all on Sunday.
Hit the gym for a light workout both yesterday and today.
Tomorrow is a horrible day from a scheduling standpoint. Thursday is no better.
Probably get a decent ride in on Friday, unless a group ride is scheduled for Saturday.
Yesterday is my normal HIIT day...had to skip it because...
1. I was at work at 3:38am and left work at 3:40pm
2. Drove 6 hours round trip after work to buy a new (to me) car...
3. When I got home, I felt like dying and not much else...
So today is upper body at the gym so i am pushing for a 30 or so mile bike ride after work.
Muscle weighs more than fat, so the weight difference isn't surprising ~
JM
I've been doing BodyPump workouts a steady 3x per week. On Monday, I hit 210lbs on my bathroom scale, down from 238 at my peak 14 months ago. I'm continuing to lose weight, albeit at a slower pace now. I'm way stronger, too.
That's still an average of ~2lbs/month, though. It all adds up. [thumbsup]
Wednesday was upper body endurance day...my trainer decided to mix it upa bit...Super Sets. Got to say that I love plate lifts...but not when combined with push presses in Super Sets.
Cable push downs...combined with dumb bell kickbacks...
Loads of fun. But I did get my bicycle ride in after work so it was all good.
Skipped working out at all last night as my body was just exhausted after 3 days of coming in to work at 3:30-3:45 am.
Today is legs/lower body strength...my goal for leg press is 500lbs...today I will be starting at 390.
Of course, just because they know how much I love them, I am guessing at least 2 to 3 different types of squats to be added in there as well...
Haven't weighed or measured for 3 weeks now. But I have continued my good eating and regular workouts. I know it's all working because I went from doing 17 pullups over 4 sets on week 2 to doing 16 in my first set on Monday. Then following it up with sets of 15, 14, 15 respectively.
Holy mother of god am I spent.
First Super Set (4 sets of each)
Leg Press (made it to 425 before I felt my knees doing things they shouldn't)
into Calf Raises on the Leg Press machine
Second
Glute/Hammy Raises
into Woodcutters with 35lb dumbbell
Third
Squats on the smith machine
into Jump Squats with no weights
Fourth
Leg Extensions
into Jump squats with 5lbs on each ankle
My butt cramped after the glute/hammy raises but stretched it out and only missed a half set of the squats on the smith machine.
The thing that amazes me the most is that once I get back to the office, I feel fine (a little tired but good overall) and the next day while I feel some stiffness, it goes away relatively fast.
Wee! Did an 84 mile bicycle ride yesterday with some obscene amount of climbing. [thumbsup]
One step closer to the century. ;D ;D
Quote from: Jammen on May 26, 2009, 02:05:30 PM
One step closer to the century. ;D ;D
You sound like Nate.
Quote from: Jammen on May 26, 2009, 02:05:30 PM
Wee! Did an 84 mile bicycle ride yesterday with some obscene amount of climbing. [thumbsup]
One step closer to the century. ;D ;D
I did ~7900', you did ~6800'.
Quote from: somegirl on May 26, 2009, 08:25:22 PM
I did ~7900', you did ~6800'.
Ahh, that's 1300' more then I thought, good enough reason for my legs to still be quivering. [laugh]
just like to point out that we recently jumped on the 'get fit' bandwagon
i really haven't done any routine excersize for quite a few years
so we are starting slow - went on a nice hike with the dog and ran for 2 minutes
today we are going to do multiple 2 minute intervals and continue this for the rest of the week
next week - 4 minutes
week after - 6 minutes
and so on
hopefully we can keep it up
Cho can dooo it!
day 2
done
though we didn't do multiple intervals - dog was a PITA
he might have to stay home next time
Bike to work, then to physical therapy, then home.
rinse and repeat.
It's a glamourous life indeed!
I did a sprint Tri this Sat. 1/2mile swim, 14.5 mile bike 3.5 run.
I did it in 1hour 16min and some change. I shaved 13 minutes of my time last year! I was pretty stoked still far from any podium finishes but woring out through the winter has helped I think. I really need to work on the swim, I could probably save 2-3 minutes there but I hate swimming as a work out.
Quote from: MrIncredible on May 26, 2009, 08:11:01 PM
You sound like Nate.
You sound like a record with a skip. ;D
wow, Nate. for a second there, I thought you were jumping on the old fitness bandwagon too.
turns out, you were just f'n with MrI. ;D
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 01, 2009, 05:38:10 AM
wow, Nate. for a second there, I thought you were jumping on the old fitness bandwagon too.
turns out, you were just f'n with MrI. ;D
You know me better than that Randy. ;)
Quote from: RodeoClown on May 31, 2009, 05:21:04 PM
I did a sprint Tri this Sat. 1/2mile swim, 14.5 mile bike 3.5 run.
I did it in 1hour 16min and some change. I shaved 13 minutes of my time last year! I was pretty stoked still far from any podium finishes but woring out through the winter has helped I think. I really need to work on the swim, I could probably save 2-3 minutes there but I hate swimming as a work out.
[clap] [thumbsup]
I'm doing my first sprint tri on 8/8. Trying not to set my expectations too high.
Well I decided that my progress isn't coming fast enough so I added a 4th day to my strength training and am going to bump my bike rides up to every day except leg days.
Saturday mornng was my first 4th day and I have to say that dragging my 95 lb solid ball of muscle trainer across the parkin lot 3 times for sprints whacked me pretty good. But in my defense I also broke 500lbs for my max on Leg Press. The Gym's record is 760lbs...I think it is doable if my knee can hold up...it was pretty sore all day Sunday.
End of Month 2 measurements: dropped anoother 3.2% body fat, biceps are 1 1/4 inches larger, chest is up 1 3/4 inches, thighs are up 1 inch each...and most importantly, my waist has dropped 2 inches!
Quote from: DesmoDiva on June 01, 2009, 06:01:56 AM
I'm doing my first sprint tri on 8/8. Trying not to set my expectations too high.
Thanks and good luck! I hope you catch a break and it is not to darn hot and humid where ever you live!
ZLTFUL: Good work on the measurements. That is awesome!
Still chugging along here!
Finally snagged myself a door mounted pullup bar and surprised the hell outta myself. Never been able to do more then 3 or 4 pullups in my life. First time I got that thing in the door frame I could do 10!
Climbing is apparently making a difference. [thumbsup]
Also had to laugh, another thing I could never real do in high school was the rope climb, yesterday just playing around I attempted to climb the one at the gym. Went up that thing like a monkey. [laugh]
While I was slapping the top rafter all I could think was "That's it?" ;D
Currently I'm at 174 pounds and waist is smaller then while I was 168 (and on the vicodin diet :P).
Think I'm just going to keep on doing body weight excersizes and bicycling for awhile, goal is still to get to a cut 170 pounds.
Next goal; Somegirl has a nice lil century ride laid out in the mountains with a healthy 8000' feet of climbing. I'm all over it. 8)
(Wanna take bets on what mile my legs turn to jello? [laugh])
Better Stronger Faster [thumbsup] ;D
Awesome!!!
Keep up the great work, Jammen. [thumbsup] [clap]
Hmm, may have spoken too soon. Used to have issues with shoulder tendonitis when I was younger (goofy joints and a broken collar bone didn't help :P) and the last couple times I've been climbing/doing pullups it's been coming back. >:(
So pissed... Don't want to take 2 to 3 weeks off or start taking anti-inflams. [bang]
Stubborn, would rather just deal with the pain and keep going, but know making it worse will just come back to bite me.
Grumble, off to search for alternative treatments. :P
Quote from: Jammen on June 15, 2009, 10:15:30 AM
Hmm, may have spoken too soon. Used to have issues with shoulder tendonitis when I was younger (goofy joints and a broken collar bone didn't help :P) and the last couple times I've been climbing/doing pullups it's been coming back. >:(
So pissed... Don't want to take 2 to 3 weeks off or start taking anti-inflams. [bang]
Stubborn, would rather just deal with the pain and keep going, but know making it worse will just come back to bite me.
Grumble, off to search for alternative treatments. :P
You need to do other types of shoulder exercises as well to keep the muscles balanced.
Well nothing new or exciting to report...just that I have been settling into having workouts as part of my daily routine...so much so that while i was at Road America last week and missed my Wednesday workout, I went to the fitness center at the hotel and did some lifting and then jumped on the eliptical for 30 minutes.
I have to say that the biggest thing I moticedwas that after 2 days of pushing myself harder than I ever have on the track, I wasn't in the least bit fatigued after all was said and done and the 40 minutes between sessions was more than enough rest time for me to be ready for the next session.
Quote from: somegirl on June 15, 2009, 11:04:18 PM
You need to do other types of shoulder exercises as well to keep the muscles balanced.
Yup, been doing a variety of pushups (decline, incline, and varying hand positions) to balance off the pullups/climbing. This is more of an "overhand motion" issue I've had since I was a kid.
Quote from: Jammen on June 16, 2009, 08:49:03 AM
Yup, been doing a variety of pushups (decline, incline, and varying hand positions) to balance off the pullups/climbing. This is more of an "overhand motion" issue I've had since I was a kid.
Front and lateral dumbbell raises would be good too.
Quote from: Jammen on June 15, 2009, 10:15:30 AM
Hmm, may have spoken too soon. Used to have issues with shoulder tendonitis when I was younger (goofy joints and a broken collar bone didn't help :P) and the last couple times I've been climbing/doing pullups it's been coming back. >:(
So pissed... Don't want to take 2 to 3 weeks off or start taking anti-inflams. [bang]
Stubborn, would rather just deal with the pain and keep going, but know making it worse will just come back to bite me.
Grumble, off to search for alternative treatments. :P
Try Arnica (oral or topical) for inflammation. It is an herbal deal and works fantastically. I have had tendonitis issues in my left wrist and right elbow and the stuff works fast.
Quote from: somegirl on June 16, 2009, 09:52:31 AM
Front and lateral dumbbell raises would be good too.
Quote from: angler on June 16, 2009, 11:46:19 AM
Try Arnica (oral or topical) for inflammation. It is an herbal deal and works fantastically. I have had tendonitis issues in my left wrist and right elbow and the stuff works fast.
Great and double great! I'll start working on both. [thumbsup]
Today I did a little experiment. I played the game of "if I was as strong then as I am now" with a bodyweight workout. It was box jumps (24"), Ab Mat sit ups (they disengage the hip flexors, making it much slower), and air squats, 21-25-9. That might not sound like a lot, and it isn't, but I did it all with a 20 lb weight vest. [evil] It was good to prove to myself that if I was as strong then as I am now, I could have crushed that WOD in 5:55. Actually doing it with the weight vest is a little harder, since all the weight is on my upper body and it was a bit floppy. I had to land on the box really wide to let it hang between my knees, or else it was striking my legs and bruising them. Time to get a weight vest just for myself!
Quote from: somegirl on June 16, 2009, 09:52:31 AM
Front and lateral dumbbell raises would be good too.
+1
My $1.50 on the subject if I may:
Sometimes dumbbells bug my shoulder sockets when I'm warming up, so I do handstand push-ups. You can change your hand positions and get a little front and lateral deltoids that way. It looks really kung fu/Jedi Knight man, but it's easier than it looks. Start with just holding hand stands against the wall; look between your hands, heals & head against the wall back pretty straight. Press mostly on first knuckle of pointer fingers, middle finger straight forward. Then one centimeter push ups and so forth. Raise/Drop one foot at a time to enter exit position. You won't believe how fast you can get good at it if you're not too heavy.
Form is pretty important. Don't arch your neck and back too much. Use your abs and breathe.
*It's very easy to tear a shoulder ligament with too much weight - start very very light until ligaments catch up with muscle strength. * Shoulder rotators take years to heal
if they heal without surgery. Don't mess them up. Don't ever lift past horizontal.
When using dumbbells in a lateral lift, bend knees slightly, lean forward a couple of inches, keep hands pronator (palm down) and exaggerate a little more so thumbs are more down than horizontal.
Quote from: Desmostro on June 22, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
+1
My $1.50 on the subject if I may:
Sometimes dumbbells bug my shoulder sockets when I'm warming up, so I do handstand push-ups. You can change your hand positions and get a little front and lateral deltoids that way. It looks really kung fu/Jedi Knight man, but it's easier than it looks. Start with just holding hand stands against the wall; look between your hands, heals & head against the wall back pretty straight. Press mostly on first knuckle of pointer fingers, middle finger straight forward. Then one centimeter push ups and so forth. Raise/Drop one foot at a time to enter exit position. You won't believe how fast you can get good at it if you're not too heavy.
Form is pretty important. Don't arch your neck and back too much. Use your abs and breathe.
Handstand pushups are awesome. I love them to death. A great way to do them is to fab up some parallettes from PVC and go all the way down until you touch your shoulders. The proper spacing for parallettes is from the elbow to the middle finger tip.
That's exactly what I've been working up to! Think now you've got me motivated to try em tonight and see how I can do. [thumbsup]
Also doing really well with the tendonitis, took the weekend off from climbing, went this morning, warmed up for a good amount of time, and climbed with no issues. ;D
I'm a happy camper again.
Quote from: Desmostro on June 22, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
+1
My $1.50 on the subject if I may:
Sometimes dumbbells bug my shoulder sockets when I'm warming up, so I do handstand push-ups. You can change your hand positions and get a little front and lateral deltoids that way. It looks really kung fu/Jedi Knight man, but it's easier than it looks. Start with just holding hand stands against the wall; look between your hands, heals & head against the wall back pretty straight. Press mostly on first knuckle of pointer fingers, middle finger straight forward. Then one centimeter push ups and so forth. Raise/Drop one foot at a time to enter exit position. You won't believe how fast you can get good at it if you're not too heavy.
Form is pretty important. Don't arch your neck and back too much. Use your abs and breathe.
*It's very easy to tear a shoulder ligament with too much weight - start very very light until ligaments catch up with muscle strength. * Shoulder rotators take years to heal if they heal without surgery. Don't mess them up. Don't ever lift past horizontal.
When using dumbbells in a lateral lift, bend knees slightly, lean forward a couple of inches, keep hands pronator (palm down) and exaggerate a little more so thumbs are more down than horizontal.
I want to crawl into a hole and pull it in after myself. I had to drive home using my fingertips on the wheel. My hands are killing me. I want to do nothing but sit here and ponder the burning in my palms. 110 pull ups, 170 push ups, 1k run
Quote from: Ducatista on June 23, 2009, 02:23:30 PM
I want to crawl into a hole and pull it in after myself. I had to drive home using my fingertips on the wheel. My hands are killing me. I want to do nothing but sit here and ponder the burning in my palms. 110 pull ups, 170 push ups, 1k run
Damn! In how much time?
Quote from: Jammen on June 23, 2009, 02:30:28 PM
Damn! In how much time?
Warm up:
2 rounds of Cindy (5 pull ups, 10 push ups, and I skipped the squats due to a pulled muscle NOT lifting related)
Workout:
200m run
20 pull ups
30 push ups
5 rounds
22:09
Oh, and where I work out isn't air conditioned. [evil]
Gotta get back in the groove. I'm feelin' my age. :-X
:o
Bad. Ass.
[thumbsup]
;D
Quote from: Ducatista on June 23, 2009, 03:10:55 PM
Warm up:
2 rounds of Cindy (5 pull ups, 10 push ups, and I skipped the squats due to a pulled muscle NOT lifting related)
Workout:
200m run
20 pull ups
30 push ups
5 rounds
22:09
Oh, and where I work out isn't air conditioned. [evil]
Last March I started to ride a unicycle. I have found it to be the most intense exercise so far. My favorite is hill climbing. Trails that I find moderate on my mountain bike are intensely hard on the unicycle. Paved climbs are much easier but dirt is more fun. I especially like riding with the dogs.
Harvey Bear Ranch
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/mbalmer/IMG_0285.jpg)
Me and my dogs on Priestrock Trail above Lexington Reservoir.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/mbalmer/DSCN0872-1.jpg)
We're going to get into cycling soon. I usually run 4.5 miles 4 days a week at lunch, hit the weights at the gym 3 days a week in the evenings and take cycling classes 3 days a week to boot. It's exhausting but a quick way to get in shape. Saturdays we've also been doing Cardio Kickboxing - which let me tell you - is quite the workout!!!! We...or rather I, was sore for 3 days after our first class!!!!
I calculated from my heart monitor calorie reader that during an average day where I do all 3 (run, weights, cycling) I regularly burn 2000 calories! (http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/muscle.gif)
Did a mini-duathalon for training today. Wore my new Tri-suit to see what it's like. The thin pad is surprisingly comfortable.
6.8 bike
1.75 run
1.5 bike
And I feel pretty good. [thumbsup]
We'll have to wait to see how I feel tomorrow. :P
Quote from: DesmoDiva on June 26, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
Did a mini-duathalon for training today. Wore my new Tri-suit to see what it's like. The thin pad is surprisingly comfortable.
6.8 bike
1.75 run
1.5 bike
And I feel pretty good. [thumbsup]
We'll have to wait to see how I feel tomorrow. :P
For me it's usually not the next day, but two days later that I start to feel sore.
Quote from: Monster Dave on June 26, 2009, 01:23:31 PM
For me it's usually not the next day, but two days later that I start to feel sore.
By then it won't matter.
Maybe the time in the pool tomorrow will help.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on June 26, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
Did a mini-duathalon for training today. Wore my new Tri-suit to see what it's like. The thin pad is surprisingly comfortable.
6.8 bike
1.75 run
1.5 bike
And I feel pretty good. [thumbsup]
Sweet! [thumbsup] Are you training for a tri?
Quote from: somegirl on June 26, 2009, 05:59:39 PM
Sweet! [thumbsup] Are you training for a tri?
Yuppers.
A sprint tri (my first), August 8th.
400m swim
15km bike
3km run
Did a 5K Sunday morning. Got a new personal record 20:33. I was pretty stoked. It would be real nice if I could get below 19 minutes? But I probably have to train harder and more focused for that...
Easing back into the gym...went in and did some light weights...dumbells presses laying on the floor to keep pressure off my core...some resistance band stuff etc.
Then spent 30 minutes on the stationary bike. It's a recumbent so I was pretty comfortable in my torso while my legs were jelly after the hill climb program.
Funny thing about broken ribs...you never know how much they influence your core until you break a few...hehe.
Whew....
A double workout today:
5 mi run this morning
pool workout after work.
Thankfully tomorrow is a rest day.
yargh! not being able to workout is made much worse by all of the ambitious workouts on this thread (Ducatista, I'm looking at you!!)
swelling seems to be mostly gone and I'm walking like a human being again so I think tomorrow I might be able to manage a light workout - hopefully! So far, pool-time "physical therapy" has been my only workout.
anyone see any danger in light weight lifting while still a little swollen? it is really very little, although the bruises are still ugly.
Quote from: DesmoLu on July 13, 2009, 06:43:02 PM
yargh! not being able to workout is made much worse by all of the ambitious workouts on this thread (Ducatista, I'm looking at you!!)
swelling seems to be mostly gone and I'm walking like a human being again so I think tomorrow I might be able to manage a light workout - hopefully! So far, pool-time "physical therapy" has been my only workout.
anyone see any danger in light weight lifting while still a little swollen? it is really very little, although the bruises are still ugly.
Really now? Last time I checked (about 2 hrs ago), the entire underside of your biceps was black, purple and yellow, and your triceps was swollen to 2x its size.
If I catch you anywhere near a weight there will be blood >:(
Swimming sounds like a good choice. ;)
Quote from: El Matador on July 13, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
If I catch you anywhere near a weight there will be blood >:(
bah. you WOULD injure me to prevent me from possible injury! Fine. but your coming swimming with me again.
I think I was mad at my coach for the first time ever. There is a workout called Grace that is 30 clean and jerks. It is done close to your maximum reliable clean and jerk. My max reliable clean and jerk is 95 lbs, so I do this one at 85 lbs. Yesterday, the workout was:
400m run
power cleans
pull ups
push press
21-15-9
So beginning each round, you do the run, and then it totals 3/4 mile run and 45 each power cleans, pull ups, and push press. We did it at the weight we use for Grace. This is entirely messed up, because with Grace, you just dump from overhead and then you're set up for your next clean. Not so in this workout. You have to clean it up to your shoulders for the push press, not to mention it's 1.5 times the number of reps as Grace AND has the extra pull ups. I think I did 10 bonus cleans. I was ready to kill my coach. It took me 18:08. I tore my hand open on the pull ups. I wasn't winded at all. I just was failing lock out at the end. I did lock out every rep, though. It was probably the hardest I've ever pushed myself in strength. You know it's the suck when pull ups are the "break" in the workout.
Oh, and after a long strength stagnation, I hit a couple new dead lift personal records today. I pulled 215 for a new 5 rep max and 225 for a new 1 rep max. This was with the torn hand. [evil]
Just 8 days until my Triathlon!!
Training has been going great. [thumbsup]
I love my Louis Garneau trisuit. Have been doing one workout a week in it.
(http://www.louisgarneau.com/media/images/catalogs/9858134/9858134_681_large_f.jpg)
Quote from: NAKID on November 09, 2008, 10:04:56 AM
Jeeze, her dirtbike weighs 225?
Im 230lbs, what you tryin to say? ;D
This thread has me motivated! I start today! I just went to the doctor last week and all is well.
7/30/01-231 Lbs. Start!
I will keep you posted.
Still on the wagon! Been climbing pretty consistently, and made it up my first V4! Still pretty stoked. ;D
Slacked off a bit though, lost motivation to get up at the ass crack of dawn every morning to work out. :(
Might be time to kick myself in the ass and get going again. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Jammen on August 04, 2009, 09:15:32 AMSlacked off a bit though, lost motivation to get up at the ass crack of dawn every morning to work out. :(
Might be time to kick myself in the ass and get going again. [thumbsup]
Yeah, what happened to our century? :P
We bought his and hers road bikes two weeks ago and have been really loving them! We looked all over and after we got past the sticker shock for the cost of new road bikes, we bought these:
His:
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/83/l_b3ddb066dcd2480ca7c1cefdd7d98954.jpg)
Hers:
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_6d05fd27dc5b41b19bdc7d806c71154c.jpg)
The weather has been so terribly hot in Phoenix that we've really been enjoying riding up north in Flagstaff. The elevation change goes from 1500 feet above sea level in Phoenix up to 8000 in Flag, so it makes for nice weather and also works our cardiovascular systems nicely!
We're training pretty hard and valuing the effect of Glutamine to help get over being sore. Ultimately, our first goal is to take part in the annual Tour de Tucson race in November. Annually there are typically 9000 cyclists who take part in the race! Tucson is a really popular destination for serious cyclists to train.
Since we've been doing so much exercise over the last few months I built a database to keep track of calories burned for the various things that we do (cycling, spin classes, weights, jogging). Here's a sample of what we're using:
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/65/l_bf8f3a9af79744d5a2e5127ec00e5848.jpg)
It's really helped a lot to keep track of my caloric burn and to actually see the pattern that I'm establishing.
Keep up the great work everyone! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 05, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
We bought his and hers road bikes two weeks ago and have been really loving them! We looked all over and after we got past the sticker shock for the cost of new road bikes, we bought these:
Very nice! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 05, 2009, 09:11:26 AMWe're training pretty hard and valuing the effect of Glutamine to help get over being sore.
A lot of it is just getting your muscles used to it, but also make sure you are replenishing your electrolytes as you ride, especially if it is hot out.
yoga
I hurt
anyone seen my walker?
I think Jess traded it in for her whip. ;) ;D
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 05, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
We bought his and hers road bikes two weeks ago and have been really loving them! We looked all over and after we got past the sticker shock for the cost of new road bikes, we bought these:
His:
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/83/l_b3ddb066dcd2480ca7c1cefdd7d98954.jpg)
Hers:
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_6d05fd27dc5b41b19bdc7d806c71154c.jpg)
The weather has been so terribly hot in Phoenix that we've really been enjoying riding up north in Flagstaff. The elevation change goes from 1500 feet above sea level in Phoenix up to 8000 in Flag, so it makes for nice weather and also works our cardiovascular systems nicely!
We're training pretty hard and valuing the effect of Glutamine to help get over being sore. Ultimately, our first goal is to take part in the annual Tour de Tucson race in November. Annually there are typically 9000 cyclists who take part in the race! Tucson is a really popular destination for serious cyclists to train.
Since we've been doing so much exercise over the last few months I built a database to keep track of calories burned for the various things that we do (cycling, spin classes, weights, jogging). Here's a sample of what we're using:
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/65/l_bf8f3a9af79744d5a2e5127ec00e5848.jpg)
It's really helped a lot to keep track of my caloric burn and to actually see the pattern that I'm establishing.
Keep up the great work everyone! [thumbsup]
Nice job on the his and hers bikes!
Are you guys still riding with the toe clips, or have you switched to clipless pedals yet?
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 06, 2009, 04:27:35 AM
I think Jess traded it in for her whip. ;) ;D
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/chix0r/whip.gif)
It gets him motivated to do the yoga.
your bakasana looks like crap!
< jbub cracks whip >
< eeyore falls on nose >
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on August 06, 2009, 05:41:10 AM
Nice job on the his and hers bikes!
Are you guys still riding with the toe clips, or have you switched to clipless pedals yet?
Thanks! We were lucky for finding them when we did. We weren't looking for two at the time, only one for Maureen, but when we saw that they had similar ones for both of us we figured what the heck!
We really liked that both have carbon fiber front forks, but it's sort of hard to tell from the pic because mine blends in with the paint - it's subtle. My bike is actually a "dark" with a nice matte finish; so it matches my Monster!!! [thumbsup]
We're still using the cages for the time being. Buying two bikes and most of the gear that goes with them not to mention the necessities for roadside maintenance adds up $$$. So we haven't bought riding shoes yet. LOL, though I can say that I am a little afraid of looking like an idiot at a stoplight when I fall over cause I can't unclip my shoes!! LOL!!!
Quote from: somegirl on August 05, 2009, 07:57:39 PM
A lot of it is just getting your muscles used to it, but also make sure you are replenishing your electrolytes as you ride, especially if it is hot out.
We've really made it a point to be sure to keep fluids flowing and to keep electrolytes replenished. It's hard sometimes because out here with it being so dry you can get dehydrated before you know it, so by the time you're actually thirsty it's too late. The hard part is just reminding yourself to drink even when you really don't feel ready.
[drink] ....(well not that kind of drinking!!!).
Quote from: somegirl on August 04, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
Yeah, what happened to our century? :P
Haha, between you being on travel for the last three weeks and my latest "distractions" it's been "rough". ;D
Planning on a mellow ride tonight and a longer ride on saturday, I'll be ready again in no time. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on August 06, 2009, 05:41:10 AM
Are you guys still riding with the toe clips, or have you switched to clipless pedals yet?
Hahaha, no. Maybe wearing full leather I would. I'm afraid I would flop over each and every time I try to stop.
Quote from: SheMonster on August 06, 2009, 09:17:04 AM
Hahaha, no. Maybe wearing full leather I would. I'm afraid I would flop over each and every time I try to stop.
Oh honey, I'm sure we'll learn and it won't be soo bad!! :-*
Quote from: SheMonster on August 06, 2009, 09:17:04 AM
Hahaha, no. Maybe wearing full leather I would. I'm afraid I would flop over each and every time I try to stop.
while they may seem a little tricky or dangerous, they actually quite easy to get used to (maybe kinda like the first trackday you did??). Once you get used to them and the more efficient pedal stroke, you'll never want to ride without them.
Also, if they didn't do this when you bought the bikes, a proper fitting session is critical. Not only will you be more comfortable on the bikes, your efficiency on them will increase.
and I completely understand the drain on the pocketbook.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on August 06, 2009, 11:42:19 AM
while they may seem a little tricky or dangerous, they actually quite easy to get used to (maybe kinda like the first trackday you did??). Once you get used to them and the more efficient pedal stroke, you'll never want to ride without them.
Also, if they didn't do this when you bought the bikes, a proper fitting session is critical. Not only will you be more comfortable on the bikes, your efficiency on them will increase.
and I completely understand the drain on the pocketbook.
We were fitted when we were looking at bikes a month or so ago. [thumbsup]
I've been looking to get a road bike, just don't feel like dropping 1k on one yet. Been starting to ride my 20yo mt bike with smooth tires. Its great for a work out but not very efficient. Climbing hills i have to ride with one hand cause the gear selector doesn't want to work, so my other hand is holding the cable :-\ I want to do more riding to break up the monotony of the gym, spin classes, and running.
We had serious sticker shock when we first went out looking at road bicycles. I had no idea. We quickly found out $1K still puts you in the beginners bracket, $2500 seemed about average, we saw some that were $10K+!! :o
And there are more expensive mods and bling for them than for motorcycles.
To begin, we opted to get a pair of decent simple entry level bikes. We didn't want to make a serious investment in it unless/until we decide it is something we will want to pursue at that level. Along with all the little stuff you need to get with them we spent over $1500 for both, so not too bad.
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 05, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
We bought his and hers road bikes two weeks ago and have been really loving them! We looked all over and after we got past the sticker shock for the cost of new road bikes, we bought these:
>cough<
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1537.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1537.0)
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 05, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
......
We're training pretty hard and valuing the effect of Glutamine to help get over being sore. Ultimately, our first goal is to take part in the annual Tour de Tucson race in November. Annually there are typically 9000 cyclists who take part in the race! Tucson is a really popular destination for serious cyclists to train.
Since we've been doing so much exercise over the last few months I built a database to keep track of calories burned for the various things that we do (cycling, spin classes, weights, jogging). Here's a sample of what we're using:
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/65/l_bf8f3a9af79744d5a2e5127ec00e5848.jpg)
It's really helped a lot to keep track of my caloric burn and to actually see the pattern that I'm establishing.
Keep up the great work everyone! [thumbsup]
>cough<
looks like fitness to me ;)
The pics of the bikes. [roll]
Quote from: kopfjager on August 06, 2009, 03:26:56 PM
The pics of the bikes. [roll]
The pics of our road bikes was post related; it's all relevant.
I'll post them up in that thread though! Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that one before!
[thumbsup]
My first week was a bit brutal. My chest and arms feel like pure liquid fire was poured on them. I start running today. Im going to start out slow and build up. This is too much like work so far. [thumbsup]
Quote from: ducrider45 on August 07, 2009, 06:47:14 AM
My first week was a bit brutal. My chest and arms feel like pure liquid fire was poured on them. I start running today. Im going to start out slow and build up. This is too much like work so far. [thumbsup]
Keep up the good work. [thumbsup]
The benefits far out weigh the temporary soreness.
Start slow running...I would recommend a run/walk interval to start and work up to running all the time. Your body will thank you. Also, get fitted for proper running shoes, they can make or break your running experience.
[shameless plug]
Try to see if there is a Fleet Feet Sports (http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/store-locations) within reasonable driving/riding distance. The staff are all runners and are highly trained in getting people in the proper shoes. [/shameless plug]
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 07, 2009, 07:58:10 AM
Keep up the good work. [thumbsup]
The benefits far out weigh the temporary soreness.
Also, get fitted for proper running shoes, they can make or break your running experience.
As a fitness addict and runner, I totally agree with all of the above. A good pair of running shoes can take the painful impact out of your knees. They won't completely remove it, but I always know that my shoes are worn out when my knees start hurting. Some shoe stores will put you on a treadmill and see how your foot moves when you walk/run to best fit you for a pair of shoes.
If it's too much like "work" find a way to make it less so - are you running to (new) music? New music always refreshes my routine rather than listening to the same old stuff.
I recently had my vitals taken and was shocked to see that my resting pulse had dropped from 62 to 48 thanks to all of the cardio work that I've been doing over the last 6 months. The benefits will show and you'll be proud that you reached your goals as you work up to them.
Keep it up! [thumbsup]
Quote from: DanTheMan on August 06, 2009, 12:14:47 PM
I've been looking to get a road bike, just don't feel like dropping 1k on one yet. Been starting to ride my 20yo mt bike with smooth tires. Its great for a work out but not very efficient. Climbing hills i have to ride with one hand cause the gear selector doesn't want to work, so my other hand is holding the cable :-\ I want to do more riding to break up the monotony of the gym, spin classes, and running.
Have you looked at used bikes? Should we take a look at your mtn bike during the wrench day tomorrow?
Quote from: SheMonster on August 06, 2009, 09:17:04 AM
Hahaha, no. Maybe wearing full leather I would. I'm afraid I would flop over each and every time I try to stop.
You only fall over the first few times you stop. [cheeky]
After you get used to them I think they are safer than using toe clips (cages/straps). [thumbsup]
My personal preference is for SPDs (mountain bike pedals) as they are easy to get in and out of and you can use the recessed cleats on MTB shoes which allows you to walk around normally when you are off the bike. Most people don't ride at a level where there is much added performance from getting road-specific pedals.
With the SPDs you can still pedal if you're not clipped in as well, it won't be as comfortable but it's doable (unlike some of the road-specific systems where your shoes would just slip off the pedals if not clipped). You can even get pedals that are half platform, half SPD so you can continue to use normal shoes when you want.
You can easily adjust the tension - when you are first learning leave them really loose, and when you get used to them you can tighten them up a bit.
If you do try them, first spend some time on a trainer or leaning up against a wall and practice clipping in and out.
Then go for an slow easy ride somewhere and practice clipping in and out on both sides throughout the ride.
Also, it's best to get in the habit of being consistent on which foot you typically put down (for me it's the left, like the moto). Most of the time people fall it's because they unclip one foot and then accidentally lean the bike the other direction.
Quote from: somegirl on August 07, 2009, 10:08:21 AM
Have you looked at used bikes? Should we take a look at your mtn bike during the wrench day tomorrow?
sort of, do you know how to tune the shifter thingys? ;D
Quote from: DanTheMan on August 07, 2009, 11:29:24 AM
sort of, do you know how to tune the shifter thingys? ;D
It depends on what is wrong with them, but I might be able to. 8)
Alright, so while we're on the subject of cycling, does anyone have some tips for training for an 80 mile race that's in November?
Currently I'm cycling to work 2 days a week (14 miles round trip), doing a weight routine 3 days a week, and taking spinning classes 3 days a week, and on the weekends we're getting out for about 15-20 miles at least one day. Until I wore out my sneakers I was running about 4.5 miles 4 days a week too.
I'm doing everything that I can think of, are there any good tips for increasing endurance? I've noticed that while cycling that often I'll come up on and pass someone but then a few minutes later they are passing me again.
I may be expecting too much too soon as we've only started cycling about 3 weeks ago.
Thanks! [thumbsup]
Are you using a heart rate monitor at all? Timing your runs over the same distance? Id take some benchmark numbers and see if your improving or not. I find the HR monitor very helpful so you know exactly where you are in your workout. If you feel your pushing hard and your HR is at 100, you have a lot more to give.
Common practice for training would be a mix of endurance, sprint, interval, power, Some how mix those all into a training plan and go from there. Write it on a calender get a good mix and follow the plan. Do you know the layout of the course? flat, hills, rolling? Train based on that.
Quote from: DanTheMan on August 07, 2009, 12:57:01 PM
Are you using a heart rate monitor at all? Timing your runs over the same distance? Id take some benchmark numbers and see if your improving or not. I find the HR monitor very helpful so you know exactly where you are in your workout. If you feel your pushing hard and your HR is at 100, you have a lot more to give.
Common practice for training would be a mix of endurance, sprint, interval, power, Some how mix those all into a training plan and go from there. Write it on a calender get a good mix and follow the plan. Do you know the layout of the course? flat, hills, rolling? Train based on that.
Yeah, I'm keeping track of everything that I do and recording it in a database (as seen on the previous page), and my HR monitor is a huge help to me for tracking my progress.
The course is a good variety of flats, hills, ect, but as the the exact course I have yet to find a map for it. Once I do, I'd prefer to start riding it a bit for training purposes. I had been thinking along the same lines as what you said and feel that my current program is really well rounded with a variety of exercises, but I'm always open to suggestions and ideas. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PM
Alright, so while we're on the subject of cycling, does anyone have some tips for training for an 80 mile race that's in November?
Yeah. Just pedal 80 miles every day until you get good at it. ;D
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PM
Alright, so while we're on the subject of cycling, does anyone have some tips for training for an 80 mile race that's in November? [thumbsup]
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/conditioning/a/aa052703.htm (http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/conditioning/a/aa052703.htm)
http://www.kanbike.org/pages/training.php (http://www.kanbike.org/pages/training.php)
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PMI'm doing everything that I can think of, are there any good tips for increasing endurance? I've noticed that while cycling that often I'll come up on and pass someone but then a few minutes later they are passing me again.
Is this on rolling hills? That often happens to me...I will catch someone on the uphill and then they will pass me on the downhill. Anyway, I wouldn't worry about what others are doing - they may be having a great day, they may be having a bad day. Just focus on improving yourself.
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PMI may be expecting too much too soon as we've only started cycling about 3 weeks ago.
Yes you are...it takes time. I have no doubts you will get there though. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PMAlright, so while we're on the subject of cycling, does anyone have some tips for training for an 80 mile race that's in November?
Is it really an 80-mile race, or is it an 80-mile organized ride?
My first Tri this morening was awesome. [thumbsup]
The swim was the hardest, but I was prepared for that. :P
Passed lots of peeps on the bike, and a few on the run. Transitions went smoothly.
*edit for offical times
I finished in 1h:10m:54s; 4th in my age group (106 of 221 overall).
Swim-14:08
T1-1:07
Bike-36:57
T2-1:07
Run-17:35
[bow_down]
So impressive! Congratulations! I bet you had a blast!
[thumbsup]
Quote from: somegirl on August 07, 2009, 09:50:32 PM
Is this on rolling hills? That often happens to me...I will catch someone on the uphill and then they will pass me on the downhill. Anyway, I wouldn't worry about what others are doing - they may be having a great day, they may be having a bad day. Just focus on improving yourself.
Yes you are...it takes time. I have no doubts you will get there though. [thumbsup]
Is it really an 80-mile race, or is it an 80-mile organized ride?
Yes, it mostly happens on rollings hills. I am happy that I can push through the incline but need to work on a quicker recovery for the downhill side!
It is a race in that they do keep times, and winners from various age groups get medals. So my sights are set on winning one too!!!! I racked up 20 miles on Sat and another 25 on Sunday. I'm feeling more and more addicted to cycling the more that I train!
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 08, 2009, 08:32:15 AM
My first Tri this morening was awesome. [thumbsup]
Good for you DD! [thumbsup] [beer]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 10, 2009, 07:37:22 AMIt is a race in that they do keep times, and winners from various age groups get medals. So my sights are set on winning one too!!!! I racked up 20 miles on Sat and another 25 on Sunday. I'm feeling more and more addicted to cycling the more that I train!
Great! Well, training for a race is a bit more involved than training for a ride.
If it were an organized ride (i.e. your goal is to complete the distance) then I'd suggest just gradually building up to that distance and feeling comfortable being able to do a metric century before it.
For a race you'll want to have ridden that distance a few times beforehand, plus I'd suggest trying some shorter races beforehand too.
Quote from: somegirl on August 10, 2009, 10:12:26 AM
Good for you DD! [thumbsup] [beer]
Great! Well, training for a race is a bit more involved than training for a ride.
If it were an organized ride (i.e. your goal is to complete the distance) then I'd suggest just gradually building up to that distance and feeling comfortable being able to do a metric century before it.
For a race you'll want to have ridden that distance a few times beforehand, plus I'd suggest trying some shorter races beforehand too.
You know, to be honest, I'm not entirely clear of the level of riders that I will be up against. In that regard, it's open to anyone who want's to participate (for the $100+ entry fee).
Here's some info on it if you're curious: http://www.pbaa.com/!ETT/ETThome.html (http://www.pbaa.com/!ETT/ETThome.html)
This will be our first bicycle competition, so for the moment, I'm loosely referring to it as a race since I plan on coming in first if there's an award or not! For me anyway, it's going to be a race against myself. On the flip side, I wouldn't be too quick to call it an organized ride as there are incentives to come in at the top 3 of your class.
Participants may choose to cycle 109, 80, 67 or 35 miles depending on their fitness level and ability. At the moment I'm aiming for the 80 mile marker, but between now and November 21st, if I train as hard as I plan, I may be able to make the 109.
Bump to keep this thread alive.
I turned 50 earlier this month. I don't recommend getting older ;). I am fighting to stay fit and it's a lot of fun but much harder than it used to be. I've been doing a lot of off road unicycling and road biking ;D. There is tons of fun to be had out there. Working on fitness sure doesn't have to be dull. I enjoy reading all your threads about the activities that you do. I envy your youth :P.
Quote from: mbalmer on August 20, 2009, 06:23:08 AM
I turned 50 earlier this month. I don't recommend getting older ;). I am fighting to stay fit and it's a lot of fun but much harder than it used to be. I've been doing a lot of off road unicycling and road biking ;D. There is tons of fun to be had out there. Working on fitness sure doesn't have to be dull. I enjoy reading all your threads about the activities that you do. I envy your youth :P.
I'm gonna pick your brains for unicycling tips one of these days. ;D
Quote from: somegirl on August 20, 2009, 06:51:47 AM
I'm gonna pick your brains for unicycling tips one of these days. ;D
Let's do it. I now have six unicycles. Two are out on loan for friends to learn. Once you get past that initial learning curve it's tons of fun.
Here's a question for my fellow cyclists,
So I have 92 days left until my first century ride for the Tour de Tucson and I really want to be well prepaired for it. I've been training in a variety of ways, but what are some really good tactics to have to help increase average speed?
And for those who have done a century ride, what's a good average speed to maintain? Moreover, what's a good time to aim for if you're training super hard and highly competitive? [evil]
My new tag line: "It's not that I'm out to beat you, it's just that I have to win."
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 20, 2009, 12:51:22 PM
Here's a question for my fellow cyclists,
So I have 92 days left until my first century ride for the Tour de Tucson and I really want to be well prepaired for it. I've been training in a variety of ways, but what are some really good tactics to have to help increase average speed?
And for those who have done a century ride, what's a good average speed to maintain? Moreover, what's a good time to aim for if you're training super hard and highly competitive? [evil]
My new tag line: "It's not that I'm out to beat you, it's just that I have to win."
I finished my first century at Lake Tahoe earlier this year in about 6 1/2 hours of riding time.
I think the guys at the Tour de France were carrying like 24-25mph on the last stage of the tour for all 104 miles or so.
Somewhere in between there would be a good target to shoot for!
But in all honesty, I think the key point is not going to be the speed, as that will come with time, but rather making sure you are prepared for the distance. I've not checked out the route map for Tour de Tucson, but I've heard that it is a relatively flat ride.
In your training rides now, what kind of distances are you riding? What kind of elevation gains are you taking? Are you doing rides that have both distance and elevation?
- R
Quote from: mbalmer on August 20, 2009, 07:09:30 AM
Let's do it. I now have six unicycles. Two are out on loan for friends to learn. Once you get past that initial learning curve it's tons of fun.
Cool, I have a unicycle (Torker) and I'm decent at going up and down my hallway on it but terrified of not being able to use the wall if I need to. I'll PM you about it. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 20, 2009, 12:51:22 PM
So I have 92 days left until my first century ride for the Tour de Tucson and I really want to be well prepaired for it. I've been training in a variety of ways, but what are some really good tactics to have to help increase average speed?
Interval training (http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/tipsandtricks/a/Intervals.htm).
Although I'd recommend working on endurance more than speed. Being able to go fast for the first 25 miles won't help you if you lag the last 75 miles.
Your ride looks nice and flat so that will be good for your first century. Hopefully the winds won't be too bad.
A friend of mine wrote
this article (http://www.machka.net/century.htm) on preparing for a century.
It looks very well supported for a charity ride, have fun. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 20, 2009, 12:51:22 PM"It's not that I'm out to beat you, it's just that I have to win."
You're just joking, right?
Tour of Tucson is not really flat per se and has some moderate climbing. Wind is ususally an issue, along with two giant washes that you have to cross. Those with expert bike handleing skill, ride through it, other folks walk briskly through said deep sand. I recommend that you dismount, take off shoes and socks, carry bike cyclo cross style promptly reshoe on other side and continue on. People that don't wind up spending time cleaning out cleats or damage them and can't get their shoe into pedal.
A good average speed is between 18 to 21 mph. This century is about drafting. All along the route you will fall into groups that keep average speed high by taking short pulls at the front of 10 or more riders. If everyone tries to maintain "current speed" of the group while "pulling" for one minute or less your AVS stays very high. Effectively, you spend one minute performing an interval and 9 minutes riding medium to high tempo--very doable.
Quote from: somegirl on August 20, 2009, 07:07:09 PM
...I'm decent at going up and down my hallway on it but terrified of not being able to use the wall if I need to...
[cheeky] I randomly came across this this morning which might help you assuage your fears of needing a wall for assistance:
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/08/electric-enicyc.php (http://dvice.com/archives/2009/08/electric-enicyc.php)
Quote from: somegirl on August 20, 2009, 07:20:24 PM
Interval training (http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/tipsandtricks/a/Intervals.htm).
Although I'd recommend working on endurance more than speed. Being able to go fast for the first 25 miles won't help you if you lag the last 75 miles.
Your ride looks nice and flat so that will be good for your first century. Hopefully the winds won't be too bad.
A friend of mine wrote this article (http://www.machka.net/century.htm) on preparing for a century.
It looks very well supported for a charity ride, have fun. [thumbsup]
[thumbsup] I think that it will be fun regardless, and I'm expecting the head winds to be consistant with my recent rides. They really do hinder keeping a higher rate of speed though. In that way though it does help my training for endurance to be dealing with that element now rather than later.
Quote from: kopfjager on August 20, 2009, 07:43:28 PM
You're just joking, right?
Honestly, I'm just feeling competitive and it's been a long while since I've been so focused. A few years ago I competed in "The Most Athletic Man Competition" and ended up with 3rd place; I was so pissed that I worked for the whole next year as hard as I could and then won 1st place at the next competition.
Quote explanation:
It's not arrogance, because I know that that quote does sound that way, but it's about my attitude and perserverance in regards to winning for myself. I'm not out to beat anyone other than myself. That's the great thing about cycling and most of the sports that I like to do; the competition is within me; I just
have to do the very best that I can do and then go another 10% beyond that to push my boundaries, to break through and set a new standard for myself. In that way, I am very much a fighter. When I'm at my most fatigued moment, when I'm ready to give up, it's at that moment when I light a fire inside of me and push myself to go further and be stronger than I ever thought that I could do/be.
Randy, if I do the numbers right, that puts your average speed at 15.5mph to complete your century ride. That's doable for me now. The endurance ride that I did yesterday what focusing on keeping my cadence and average speed high. I pushed just under 10 miles out at a steady 22mph solid. The rest of my ride varied as the winds were high and I ended up keeping my speeds between 14-18mph for the rest of the 20 miles that I rode. Weekly I'm riding about 100 miles but I'm also doing several spinning classes and weight training as well. Last weekend we did a 40 mile ride on Sunday for breakfast and back and could easily have gone further if it wasn't nearing 104 outside!
Nomods, thanks for your input too, it sounds like you've done the Tour before. I didn't know about the wash issue - thanks for the headsup!!! Keeping a speed of 18-21mph should be my goal to make between now and November, and I think that's doable. Drafting is something that I have yet to do as we haven't joined up with any riding groups yet. So it will most likely be an "on the fly" experience for me when the time comes!
Hey nomods, looks like great feedback on Monster Dave's ride. [thumbsup]
Quote from: nomods on August 21, 2009, 06:20:59 AMTour of Tucson is not really flat per se and has some moderate climbing.
Depends on what you are comparing to. If you live in the midwest, it would be a hilly ride. If you live in Colorado or California, the ride has slight rolling hills. ;)
Here's Tour de Tucson's elevation profile (low point ~2100', high point just over 3000', over the course of 105 miles).
(http://www.perimeterbicycling.com/!ETT/Elv2002.gif)
For comparison here's a 22-mile out-back ride from my house.
(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/haskins-alpine-elevation.jpg)
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 21, 2009, 09:24:36 AM
[cheeky] I randomly came across this this morning which might help you assuage your fears of needing a wall for assistance:
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/08/electric-enicyc.php (http://dvice.com/archives/2009/08/electric-enicyc.php)
:-X
Think I'd rather stick with my drunken unicycling, that will get me over my fears. [cheeky]
(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/party23.JPG)
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 21, 2009, 09:24:36 AMIt's not arrogance, because I know that that quote does sound that way, but it's about my attitude and perserverance in regards to winning for myself. I'm not out to beat anyone other than myself. That's the great thing about cycling and most of the sports that I like to do; the competition is within me; I just have to do the very best that I can do and then go another 10% beyond that to push my boundaries, to break through and set a new standard for myself. In that way, I am very much a fighter. When I'm at my most fatigued moment, when I'm ready to give up, it's at that moment when I light a fire inside of me and push myself to go further and be stronger than I ever thought that I could do/be.
One great thing about cycling is that we can all go and challenge ourselves with the very same routes that the pros ride. [thumbsup]
Quote from: somegirl on August 21, 2009, 09:39:20 AM
Here's Tour de Tucson's elevation profile (low point ~2100', high point just over 3000', over the course of 105 miles).
(http://www.perimeterbicycling.com/!ETT/Elv2002.gif)
For comparison here's a 22-mile out-back ride from my house.
(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/haskins-alpine-elevation.jpg)
Hey that's cool - where did you get the elevation information?
Looks like the ride where you're at is much more...vertically challenging. I'll say one thing for the flat desert, it's flat. LOL!!
..um drunk unicycling....doesn't that end up being counterproductive or do you get better by drinking more?? [cheeky]
I have done about 8-10 century rides, and mostly the Trek 100, once the Horribly Hilly Hundreds, and a couple solo rides and I have my own approach. I just figure a century ride means I am going to spend all day in the saddle, and enjoy life. When I can find a good group to draft, my average speed was about 17.5mph over the whole hundred miles. The hardest part for me to figure out was how much I needed to drink. It turns out I need one water bottle every 10 miles. But that is for me riding in the summer in Wisconsin. Your liquid intake may vary. But I managed to hurt myself pretty good the one time I got dehydrated, so I take it pretty seriously now.
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 21, 2009, 10:13:59 AM
Hey that's cool - where did you get the elevation information?
For the Tour de Tucson, it was from the link you posted. Click on Information For Riders > Map of Route.
For my ride, I usually use www.bikely.com (//http://) (although I've had trouble with it recently) or www.mapmyride.com (//http://) to map out my route and it calculates elevation information. If you have a GPS you can download elevation information after a ride.
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 21, 2009, 10:13:59 AM..um drunk unicycling....doesn't that end up being counterproductive or do you get better by drinking more?? [cheeky]
I somehow managed not to fall once even after a few shots, oddly enough. ??? I haven't repeated the experiment though.
Quote from: somegirl on August 21, 2009, 11:49:31 AM
For the Tour de Tucson, it was from the link you posted.
Oh, d'oh! I didn't even notice that!!! Thanks! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 21, 2009, 09:24:36 AM
Honestly, I'm just feeling competitive and it's been a long while since I've been so focused. A few years ago I competed in "The Most Athletic Man Competition" and ended up with 3rd place; I was so pissed that I worked for the whole next year as hard as I could and then won 1st place at the next competition.
Awesome [thumbsup] What event's were in the competition?
well, I finally sucked it up and started playing again.
and since the league's short on goalies, i have gone from complete inactivity to two games on sundays.
Quote from: kopfjager on August 21, 2009, 02:43:09 PM
Awesome [thumbsup] What event's were in the competition?
It consisted of a variety of events ranging from strength and speed to cardiovascular endurance.
Events for strength consisted of max bench press and leg press
Events for speed included max counts of push ups and sit ups in a timed environment
And Events for cardio-endurance largely consisted of a race (for time) up and down every set of stairs in the stadium.
At the time I weighted only 145lbs and was/am 5'8" tall. I maxed out at 4 reps on the bench with 425lbs, I forget what I did with leg press but it was a lot (I'll have to break out my record and check), but I also nailed pushups at 125 in 60 seconds, and 94 situps in 60 seconds. It was amazing, I was going so fast that my hands where coming off the ground just as my body was coming down for the next push up. The endurance race was the hardest part for me and I'd need to recheck the distance and time that I got. The best part (aside from winning that year) was finding out that I made it onto the cover of the university newspaper while I was training for the running event.
I'm in good shape now, and after a few years of weight lifting I'm holding strong at 160lbs. I took a good bit off from heavy training after that as it really wasn't necessary. But recently I've gotten back into it and am breaking the 300lb mark on chest once again and broke the 110lb mark for barbell curls last week.
From the time of this post, I have 32 days until my birthday (goal to reach - be in the best shape of my life), and 88 days until El Tour de Tucson. Aside from leaning down a bit, which should be easy enough to do by adjusting my diet, I'm already nearing my birthday goal thanks to cycling. Needless to say, I'm stoked. ;D
Anway, no rest for the wicked right?! So I'm already looking for what comes next after the Tour de Tucson in November.
I have an arm that loves to play pop-the-shoulder. I haven't been able to work out properly in over a month. Today, while benching only 130lbs, my shoulder started hurting, bad. I usually lift around 240. I stopped lifting and tried to jog. Jogging was unbearable. I hate this. I can't do anything because of my shoulder [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
OTOH, I've been sleeping for the first time in years. I usually sleep 2-3 hours a night, if I sleep. For the last month I've been getting 7-8 hours. I have lost over 10 lbs by doing just that. No diet change, no workout, nothing. And it's not muscle I've been losing, It is visibly fat. I'm down to 190. I'm only 5lbs away from my goal :)
Registered today for swim lessons. [thumbsup]
So far only two of us in the class.
Starting to lay out my fall/winter training schedule.
As of now my goal is a half-ironman at the end of the summer/early fall.
This means starting the season early with some sprints, and an intermediate/olymic distance about half way through the summer.
Yes, I'm crazy...... ;D
Quote from: El Matador on August 28, 2009, 04:27:11 PM
I have an arm that loves to play pop-the-shoulder. I haven't been able to work out properly in over a month. Today, while benching only 130lbs, my shoulder started hurting, bad. I usually lift around 240. I stopped lifting and tried to jog. Jogging was unbearable. I hate this. I can't do anything because of my shoulder [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
I had an injury rock climbing about....3yrs ago I think where I pulled something really bad in my arm as I began to take a fall from an overhang (because I tried to save myself). It took a good long while for it to heal, but when it did I was golden again. It was so hard for me to back off and let it heal because I couldn't stand not workingout. You've really got to give your body all the time it needs to heal.
Try backing it down to 100lbs and see how it feels. You may want to try some very light weight to help make your shoulder from over straining until it gets stronger (depending on the injury though, I'm only guessing - it might be better to not do anything for a while).
Good luck.
So we decided that we're doing a 70mile ride as part of the Tour de Scottsdale here in Arizona the first week of October in preparation for the 109 Tour de Tucson in November. We also found out about a really cool (and very fun) event called the Muddy Buddy Run/Ride her in AZ in December.
http://www.muddybuddy.com/events.php?id=13 (http://www.muddybuddy.com/events.php?id=13)
Anyone interested should check out the website as it goes on nation wide. [thumbsup]
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 29, 2009, 03:24:58 PM
Registered today for swim lessons. [thumbsup]
So far only two of us in the class.
Starting to lay out my fall/winter training schedule.
As of now my goal is a half-ironman at the end of the summer/early fall.
This means starting the season early with some sprints, and an intermediate/olymic distance about half way through the summer.
Yes, I'm crazy...... ;D
Hey crazy is what drives us all to do what we do - awesome! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 31, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
We also found out about a really cool (and very fun) event called the Muddy Buddy Run/Ride her in AZ in December.
http://www.muddybuddy.com/events.php?id=13 (http://www.muddybuddy.com/events.php?id=13)
Anyone interested should check out the website as it goes on nation wide. [thumbsup]
I can't wait to get muddy with you sweetie! That looks like it is going to be so much fun!! [laugh]
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 31, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
I had an injury rock climbing about....3yrs ago I think where I pulled something really bad in my arm as I began to take a fall from an overhang (because I tried to save myself). It took a good long while for it to heal, but when it did I was golden again. It was so hard for me to back off and let it heal because I couldn't stand not workingout. You've really got to give your body all the time it needs to heal.
Try backing it down to 100lbs and see how it feels. You may want to try some very light weight to help make your shoulder from over straining until it gets stronger (depending on the injury though, I'm only guessing - it might be better to not do anything for a while).
Good luck.
So we decided that we're doing a 70mile ride as part of the Tour de Scottsdale here in Arizona the first week of October in preparation for the 109 Tour de Tucson in November. We also found out about a really cool (and very fun) event called the Muddy Buddy Run/Ride her in AZ in December.
http://www.muddybuddy.com/events.php?id=13 (http://www.muddybuddy.com/events.php?id=13)
Anyone interested should check out the website as it goes on nation wide. [thumbsup]
Hey crazy is what drives us all to do what we do - awesome! [thumbsup]
Hey! thanks for the info. I tied working out again today. No dice. I was just doing dips on the parallel bars when my shoulder started to hurt again. I deciedd to cut it off there and just did some cardio. This is really pissing me off.
Quote from: El Matador on August 31, 2009, 04:17:00 PM
Hey! thanks for the info. I tied working out again today. No dice. I was just doing dips on the parallel bars when my shoulder started to hurt again. I deciedd to cut it off there and just did some cardio. This is really pissing me off.
Belive me, I know how you feel. I can't stand to be thwarted in my efforts; especially when it comes to workingout!! Dips are really strenuous on the shoulders though and put a lot of your weight on them. So figure, if you weigh 190lbs, you put more weight on your shoulders than you did via the 130lbs you were trying to bench press the other day.
Try very light weights after you've given your shoulder a few days of rest. Stay away from cable machines for shoulder work for the time being if you happen to be using them. Stick with dumbells and really focus on controlled movement so that you can isolate the hurt area and not over stress it. Again though, depending on your injury, you may need to modify that suggestion a little to best fit your pain.
Be patient and easy with it though or you'll end up needing more time to heal. [thumbsup]
Quote from: SheMonster on August 31, 2009, 03:42:55 PM
I can't wait to get muddy with you sweetie! That looks like it is going to be so much fun!! [laugh]
It will be a blast honey! You can count on that!!! ;D
The Muddy Buddy race sounds like a blast.
Too bad I can't get B to run, and I'm not that great at mtn biking.
Have fun. Picts following the race are a must. [thumbsup]
Great thread, ill read thrgh a lot of the pages later on.. I use to be a personal trainer, might try to get certified when I move to Tx..
Shoulder injuries are horrible because almost everything you do will put stress on it.. I say take a month off of any weights dealing with your upper body.. you shld only do foreamr work outs.. do leg work outs and cardio..
I had to take 3 months off due to a slight misshap while doing shoulder shrugs.. turned my head just a bit while shrugging over 300lbs.. muscle tht goes from my kneckto under shoulder blade was pulled.. its all healed up but I'm not going to the gym anymore.. right now I'm around the weight I wanted to gain 180-188, fluctuating... I just run, do pushups an assortment of pullups and pushups.. trying to get my 8 pack back from when I was 23-24... but ill settle for a 6 pack.. lol..
Quote from: DesmoDiva on September 01, 2009, 07:36:48 AM
The Muddy Buddy race sounds like a blast.
Too bad I can't get B to run, and I'm not that great at mtn biking.
Have fun. Picts following the race are a must. [thumbsup]
Absolutely!
It's supposed to be for fun though, so there's no need to worry about times, or who's 1st place - so you don't have to worry about too much - just get muddy and have a blast!!!
Hey guys, lets get some action going on this thread already!!! [thumbsup]
I just mapped my run for DIMBY!!
Who's going to join me for a run on Sat. moreNing???
Quote from: DesmoDiva on September 09, 2009, 07:14:45 PM
I just mapped my run for DIMBY!!
Who's going to join me for a run on Sat. moreNing???
That's awesome - how far is your run going to be?
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Quote from: Monster Dave on September 10, 2009, 07:41:44 AM
That's awesome - how far is your run going to be?
Going to head out soon.
It's going to be 5 miles.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on September 12, 2009, 03:40:37 AM
Going to head out soon.
It's going to be 5 miles.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup] Did anyone join you?
Quote from: somegirl on September 12, 2009, 06:54:33 AM
[thumbsup] [thumbsup] Did anyone join you?
Hells no!!
I was the first one up!
[thumbsup]
Off to run a 5K this morning. [thumbsup]
*sigh*
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the mountain bike area i use 3 - 4 times a week is closed.
the lake it sits near is 15` above it's summer full pool and flooded everything.
apparently all the wood bridges and crossings are gone.
they don't expect to be open until the end of october.. :(
Quote from: SheMonster on August 31, 2009, 03:42:55 PM
I can't wait to get muddy with you sweetie! That looks like it is going to be so much fun!! [laugh]
Hope you two have similar size reqs for the bicycle. You've got to share for the event - part of the challenge! Also some heel-lock style athletic (or duct) tape does a lot to make sure you clear the pit with both shoes still on. [thumbsup]
Quote from: wbeck257 on September 28, 2009, 10:27:29 AMthe mountain bike area i use 3 - 4 times a week is closed.
the lake it sits near is 15` above it's summer full pool and flooded everything.
apparently all the wood bridges and crossings are gone.
they don't expect to be open until the end of october.. :(
Bummer. :(
i've been skipping the gym a lot more than i would like too lately...
now i feel guilty :-\
I'm approaching my self-appointed October 1 deadline to get back to the gym/bikes/fitness of any kind.
I decided to give myself some time off after that last century ride in August.
I started to think this thread was a jynx. I was lazy over last winter. Like 15 pounds lazy.
it's gone. now running 15 minute 2 miles and 24 minute 5ks. but it's a constant battle. So no bragging. we all fight for every bit of it.
keep at it folks.
What he said. ^
Summer came and went and, aside from moving, I did pretty much nuthin.
Went out on The Boat for a couple of weeks earlier this month and got so bored I decided to work out. I don't know if you know this, but that's REALLY bored.
I don't typically care what scales say I weigh. I just like that my clothes are starting to fit better. Having more energy is nice, too.
I've got my semi-annual fitness test coming up in a couple of weeks. I'll let you know how I do. May of this year was the first time my 1.5 mile run time was more than 12 minutes. My goal is <11.5.
good luck james :)
i started back at the gym 2 days ago
i hurt
What I did to get fit... I took a picture which I call "Fat John" and I put a copy on my mirror in the bath and on my monitor so I would see it every day. (No Randy, I will NOT post that for your amusment [cheeky]).
I lost 30 lbs from it.
I keep the pictures up as a reminder of why I will never go to that again and to motivate me daily to either go to the gym, or get on the rower that is next to my desk.
It works.
/\..... it does work.. nothing better then some self motivating pic of your self... or a pic of tht hot chick you've been trying to bag..
looking at a scale that suddenly sais 200+ (after beeing around 180 for the past couple of years)was reason for me to start, one of my workers convinced me to start the p90x,so i did today for the first time.
it kicked my ass and showed me how out of shape i am.
Quote from: yuu on September 28, 2009, 10:50:04 AM
Hope you two have similar size reqs for the bicycle. You've got to share for the event - part of the challenge! Also some heel-lock style athletic (or duct) tape does a lot to make sure you clear the pit with both shoes still on. [thumbsup]
We will be using my mountain bike for this (Muddy Buddy - www.muddybuddy.com (//http://) (//http://)), it should be fine. Although we are about the same height my legs are much longer than his so we'll adjust the seat height accordingly. Have you done one of these events? I am excited about doing it, it looks like so much fun!! Where would you get the athletic heel lock tape? I can see how we could get bogged down in the mud :/
Quote from: SheMonster on October 02, 2009, 06:46:06 AM
Where would you get the athletic heel lock tape? I can see how we could get bogged down in the mud :/
Dicks??
BTW..surprised I haven't seen you on the road yet since I've been back?! ;)
Sorry Adam, both of our Monsters have grown cobwebs lately :( ... too busy using our free time for cycling [thumbsup]
Quote from: SheMonster on October 02, 2009, 07:09:25 AM
Sorry Adam, both of our Monsters have grown cobwebs lately :( ... too busy using our free time for cycling [thumbsup]
You guys should get together with Randimus and Stella.
It's a great form of exercise! Would have loved to get into it while living in Seattle and Austin!! Can't blame you now that the heat is starting to let up. I was out riding last night and it was a little "nippy"! Getting to be perfect weather for riding bikes and the Ducs!
Have to check that muddybuddy site to see what that is all about. [thumbsup]
Did some CrossFit on friday. then carried a 155 lb dude up 6 flights of stairs. twice
With only 41 days left until El Tour de Tucson (39 as of this posting) I decided to take advantage of the nice weather this past Saturday and a century (100 mile) bicycle ride. Though it was my first and I was pretty certain that I had been training consistenly and hard enough to do it, I was pretty suprised at how well my body handled it and how strongly I finished. I completed my first 100 miles in just 6 hours and 4 minutes ( I actually did 101.4 miles). My goal for the Tour de Tucson is to knock that down to 5 hours and 30 minutes or less.
It's amazing how much you learn about your body and what you are capable of after such a long endurance ride. It was awesome! In fact, I felt so good that we went out for dinner after than and then on Sunday Maureen and I did just under 20 miles for fun since the weather was so nice.
It was crazy to see how many calories that I burned on that ride - almost 6000!!!
I'm training as follows:
Monday - off
Tuesday - Cycle 30 miles
- Weights 1hr
- Spin Class - 1hr
Wednesday - Cycle 30-50 miles
Thursday - Cycle 30-60 miles
Friday - Off
Saturday - Cycle - (high mileage rides) - 50-80 miles
Sunday - Off or fun light riding.
It's really paying off and now I have the confidence to know that I can do the centry for El Tour and that's one less thing to worry about! [thumbsup]
That's pretty good.. you should try for less then 5 hrs.. that'll be a great goal.. average 30mph and your there.. deff not easy of course depending on the hills.. what's your weight training like?
Quote from: cokey on October 12, 2009, 07:40:49 AM
That's pretty good.. you should try for less then 5 hrs.. that'll be a great goal.. average 30mph and your there.. deff not easy of course depending on the hills.. what's your weight training like?
I think that there may be some primary assumptions that you're making about my bike though that implies that I could hold an
average of 30mph. Sure, I've hit upwards of 38-40 mph before, but to average 30mph means that I'd have to keep a
much higher pace than that and without upgrading to a fully CF bike with the best gearing ect there's just no way that I can (afford) to do that. On a side note, we only started getting into cycling in July. So in less than 3 months I've stepped into a new sport and am running full bore.
I did upgrade my wheel set and tires this past weekend after my ride, which does make a significant difference but not enough to off set the riders who dump all of their lively hood into their bikes - I'm just not there yet (not to say I won't be there sooner than later, but you know what I mean...). ;)
My weight training for the time being is pretty intense on strength building for core and upper body. It balances out what I'm doing for my legs on the bike throughout the week and I really like the results of my routine.
...wait a minute...I just did the math on that, and at an average spd of 30 mph that would make it 100 miles in less than 3.5 hours - that's nearly Armstrong level performance - and at the moment, unrealistic - especially for a solo rider without the benefit of a team to draft with. If I kept a more reasonable and doable average spd of 20mph I'd make it in 5hrs. That shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Deff good stuff then if you've only just started.. I miss the 100mile trips from bk to bear montian... I figure your not lifting heavy then.. muscle mass may slow you down since you'll weight more.. your on the right path it seems.. keep it up
Quote from: cokey on October 12, 2009, 09:59:36 AM
Deff good stuff then if you've only just started.. I miss the 100mile trips from bk to bear montian... I figure your not lifting heavy then.. muscle mass may slow you down since you'll weight more.. your on the right path it seems.. keep it up
Thanks! [thumbsup]
I've been tracking my caloric burn since June in a database and graphed out my results as of yesterday:
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The most calories that I've burned to date was just under 6000 in one day when I did my first Century ride. To date, I've burned 115,454 calories!!! That's insane when you think about how much that is!!!
Hey come on people! Where's the action on this thread? I can't be the only one in training!!! Post some updates!
Indiana's cold & flu season knocked me out of the gym for like two solid weeks. I'll be headed back to Muay Thai class after no activity and a weekly-long upper-respirator infection for my first workout in probably 14 days. I imagine I will probably sweat out a full bag of actual chocolate chip cookies and at least two cans of Campbell's Chicken Noodle soup, thoroughly disgusting my training partners, before I collapse from ogygen debt.
If I survive that I may brave a scale for the first time in a month, and I'm sure that won't be pretty. Thank goodness I'm not slated to fight any time soon.
I'll also note that not being able to train is really expensive - when I'm not in the gym I tend to gravitate towards the "Parts For Sale" forum to kill the extra time.
PRT this morning.
2 minutes max sit-ups: 70
2 minutes mas push ups: 52
Mile and a half run: 10m 52s!
Fastest I've ever run it for score.
Quote from: Obsessed? on October 16, 2009, 08:45:39 AM
PRT this morning.
2 minutes max sit-ups: 70
2 minutes mas push ups: 52
Mile and a half run: 10m 52s!
Fastest I've ever run it for score.
Not bad! Keep it up! Winter is my favorite time to train. Are you keeping track of your improvements so that you can actually see the results? I find that doing something like that (like my graph) helps me see that all of my effort is really making a difference.
[thumbsup]
Quote from: dropstharockalot on October 16, 2009, 07:58:25 AM
If I survive that I may brave a scale for the first time in a month, and I'm sure that won't be pretty. Thank goodness I'm not slated to fight any time soon.
Sorry to hear that you got so ill, go back gradually or you could find yourself over doing it and sick again. :-X
So I never go to the doctor, but I needed a physical for some UN work I'm doing. I'm a big guy - 6'4", 275. BMI says I am obese. I disagree. BMI says I need to be under 205 to be normal. There is no make the beast with two backsing way that is right. At my peak of fitness I got down to 225. I am a muscular dude, although right now it is beer muscle. I also have high blood pressure for the first time in my life (I'm 38). Doctor gave me an earful.......I'm guessing my blood work is going to come back ugly.
So enough ranting. I want some rather specific advice. I don't diet - it is not in me. That said, I eat pretty healthy, at least balance wise. I got too many other vices that require my full will power. I lead a fairly active life, but have been slacking. I do yoga every week at studio and just graduated to yoga 2 which is currently kicking my ass. I just started getting back on the cardio routine this week - 30-60 minutes of heavy cardio, either running or on my stairmaster, each day, 5-7 days a week.
I would like to add one structured strength training program to routine once a week. I don't have the space in my house for a full weight set, but could probably carve out room for a weight bench and some barbells. I've been thinking of some sort of class or something. Maybe boxing or mixed martial arts. Maybe something else. Any ideas, particularly ones in the DC metro?
Quote from: angler on October 16, 2009, 08:59:52 AM
So I never go to the doctor, but I needed a physical for some UN work I'm doing. I'm a big guy - 6'4", 275. BMI says I am obese. I disagree. BMI says I need to be under 205 to be normal. There is no make the beast with two backsing way that is right. At my peak of fitness I got down to 225. I am a muscular dude, although right now it is beer muscle. I also have high blood pressure for the first time in my life (I'm 38). Doctor gave me an earful.......I'm guessing my blood work is going to come back ugly.
So enough ranting. I want some rather specific advice. I don't diet - it is not in me. That said, I eat pretty healthy, at least balance wise. I got too many other vices that require my full will power. I lead a fairly active life, but have been slacking. I do yoga every week at studio and just graduated to yoga 2 which is currently kicking my ass. I just started getting back on the cardio routine this week - 30-60 minutes of heavy cardio, either running or on my stairmaster, each day, 5-7 days a week.
I would like to add one structured strength training program to routine once a week. I don't have the space in my house for a full weight set, but could probably carve out room for a weight bench and some barbells. I've been thinking of some sort of class or something. Maybe boxing or mixed martial arts. Maybe something else. Any ideas, particularly ones in the DC metro?
First off, props to you for taking your doctor seriously. Everyone has vices, otherwise there'd be no balance point for virtues. I'd stick with what you've got laid out at the moment before you try adding much more to your routine - you don't want to burn yourself out. If you find yourself tired of running, switch to an elliptical machine where there's no impact on your knees. If you're doing cardio at a gym, look there for classes - out here in AZ, the gyms seem offer a good variety of classes to keep you interested.
Good Luck! [thumbsup]
Well back to the gym after a three week vacation. I am taking advantage of the jetlag and going to the gym at 6:30 in the morning. Going to try and make a regular habit of it, just feel like i get more time out of the day and never miss a woukout because of some other social obligation after work. We'll see how long this lasts.
If you want to add on a strenght exercise, you could just do free n clears ( I think thts the name, I just do them lol).. where you get a long bar. Some weight on the ends start by doing a bent leg deadlift then snap the weight up to your chest then push it above your head.. like the olympics competition.. just start with light weights.. this hit about 85% of your muscles.. if you want part of your legs in it, try doing them striaght leged to hit the hammys.. with tht same bar you can also do shoulder shrugs..
Quote from: cokey on October 17, 2009, 11:31:57 AM
If you want to add on a strenght exercise, you could just do free n clears ( I think thts the name, I just do them lol).. where you get a long bar. Some weight on the ends start by doing a bent leg deadlift then snap the weight up to your chest then push it above your head.. like the olympics competition.. just start with light weights.. this hit about 85% of your muscles.. if you want part of your legs in it, try doing them striaght leged to hit the hammys.. with tht same bar you can also do shoulder shrugs..
Free & Clear
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Clean & Jerk
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;)
yea that's what it was.. lol i couldn't think of the name for the life of me.. thanks..
So I started working out July 1st after many many many years of sitting on my Ass.
I started to eat more healthy and try to hit the Gym 4 to 5 times a week. I have been working out on the Elliptical about a hour a day which burns anywhere from 600 to 800 calories for me. I also added Hiking and Biking to my routine one to twice a week.
As of Today I am down from 202 pounds to 155 Pounds. [thumbsup] I am 5-4 and I have a large frame body so I a thinking of a target weight of about 140 to 145. I prob will start hitting a plateau soon so I will see how it goes =)
I know BMI is just a rough calculation and does not take all things into considering but I am over weight in till I hit 146 which is borderline normal =(
Quote from: ROBsS4R on October 18, 2009, 08:08:36 PMAs of Today I am down from 202 pounds to 155 Pounds. [thumbsup]
[clap] [clap] [clap]
that's fantastic [thumbsup]
Awesome work Rob. [thumbsup] [clap]
So due to some politics and drama at work, I am no longer working out at lunch time but switched my workout to 5am.
I love that I get done with my workout but by the time 2 or so comes around, I am running out of gas fast. My diet is still the same...tons of fuel and my measurements are still heading in the direction I want them to (belly gained some back on me because of 2 breaks due to injury and surgery). But I need to figure out how to keep my enery level up all day...
I also have had several people making comments about how much thinner I look. My weight is down a little but then my upper body is growing, my legs are incredibly low fat-wise and when I do things like go for walks or bike rides or jogs, I don't get tired.
But the daily office grind is killing me.
Quote from: somegirl on October 18, 2009, 08:14:29 PM
[clap] [clap] [clap]
[clap] Absolultly! [thumbsup]
Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 19, 2009, 05:49:55 AM
But the daily office grind is killing me.
I've often found that fitness is a great way to release stress from work - it's a very healthy means of managing daily stresses. Good job!!
Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 19, 2009, 05:49:55 AMI also have had several people making comments about how much thinner I look. My weight is down a little but then my upper body is growing, my legs are incredibly low fat-wise and when I do things like go for walks or bike rides or jogs, I don't get tired.
Great job! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 19, 2009, 05:49:55 AMI love that I get done with my workout but by the time 2 or so comes around, I am running out of gas fast. My diet is still the same...tons of fuel and my measurements are still heading in the direction I want them to (belly gained some back on me because of 2 breaks due to injury and surgery). But I need to figure out how to keep my enery level up all day...
When it is time for a break, how about taking a short walk for some fresh air, that might help re-energize you?
Are you eating snacks in between meals?
Not snacks persay as much as they are my actual meals...5 or 6 smaller meals throughout the day depending if I worked out that day or not.
Like right now...didn't have a big lunch...mixed greens salad, some grilled chicken on it with a tablespoon f dressing tossed in, some almonds and skim milk to drink...
But I am feeling completely outof gas...
Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 19, 2009, 11:11:14 AM
But I am feeling completely outof gas...
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And I am completely joking. I have nothing, other than I better get myself back in the gym so you don't smoke me on the hikes/bike rides this year.
Not a bad idea - getting back to the gym that is!
I know a guy that really likes those 5hr energy shots, but personally, I prefer the GU line of products as they are made for being a healthy replenishment tool:
(http://www.bikesomewhere.com/images/variations/large/AFA60ED5-1D09-7033-84E544FCFB54D6D7.jpg)
I've also grown to really like the Jelly Belly Sport Beans:
(http://www.altrec.com/images/shop/detail/swatches/JBY/28693.67096_d.jpg)
Though, Maureen loves the Carb Boom line of all natural (nothing artificial) energy packs:
(http://media.rei.com/media/ee/c1f8dab4-986c-4a55-aa29-bac07f6ba29b.jpg)
All in all, my daily physical activity has remained high from keeping my amino acids, vitamins, and glutamine levels in place.
[thumbsup]
I prefer Hammer Nutrition products:
(http://www.hammernutrition.com/images/product/summary/summary_9SAM.jpg)
(http://www.hammernutrition.com/images/product/summary/summary_HE.jpg)
We recently started carrying Honey Stingers in the running store where I work. They are a big hit. All natural and the chews are organic.
(http://www.honeystinger.com/images/chews-prod.gif)
(http://www.honeystinger.com/images/mix.gif)
Quote from: DesmoDiva on October 20, 2009, 12:09:33 PM
(http://www.hammernutrition.com/images/product/summary/summary_HE.jpg)
HEED! PANTS! NOW!
- Couldn't resist.
Working up my functional strength 'Farm boy strong' program for the winter. Gotta get back what ACL surgery took.
I've never tried any of those products, any insight on them (not 5 hr)...?
Most of them - the GU, boom etc are easily digested carbs, a hit of caffeine and some flavor. They aren't supposed to replace 'real' food - but as quick and easy calories during extended exertion. Being a goop makes them easier/quicker to digest, and they don't require as much water from your body's stores to process. So if you're planning on longish runs, bike rides, sports they are pretty handy to help keep energy up
Quote from: yuu on October 20, 2009, 12:54:22 PM
Most of them - the GU, boom etc are easily digested carbs, a hit of caffeine and some flavor. They aren't supposed to replace 'real' food - but as quick and easy calories during extended exertion. Being a goop makes them easier/quicker to digest, and they don't require as much water from your body's stores to process. So if you're planning on longish runs, bike rides, sports they are pretty handy to help keep energy up
Good answer. That's pretty much summing them up. Some varieties don't have caffeine which can be nice if you're sensitive to caffeine. Additionally, they also have the all important amino acids and vitamins that your body needs to (as you said) keep going for long periods of high intensity workouts, runs, rides, etc...
The one other thing that I've added to my rides (bicycle) is a full mixture of Cytomax. Its blend of complex carbohydrates glutamine, and sugars work to help you sustain energy so that you can train harder, build stamina, and achieve superior results. I highly recommend it.
I know that it's really easy to start feeling trepidation with the idea of taking supplements, but these are absolutely necessary for the needs that your body will developed after prolonged strenuous and endurance activities. All that these contain are healthy elements aside from the hint of caffeine that is present in some of them. On the days where I'm cycling, I easily burn through what I've consumed in a very short period of time. I'm a calorie counter as I'm sure you've read in my previous posts, but I end up burning so many calories that the 90 or so that are in a GU chomp aren't even worth a second thought. I need them to keep from bonking out. Anyway, I'd recommend trying a few different ones for flavor and consistency, then buy in bulk - you'll save a lot of money that way.
how did people get fit before this stuff then?
Pasta! The Italian method
Quote from: Monster Dave on September 09, 2009, 01:32:43 PM
Hey guys, lets get some action going on this thread already!!! [thumbsup]
I just popped into the thread and saw your post about muddy buddy. Me and the Mrs. are gonna sign up for the phoenix one! see ya guys there!!!
Quote from: djrashonal on October 20, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
I just popped into the thread and saw your post about muddy buddy. Me and the Mrs. are gonna sign up for the phoenix one! see ya guys there!!!
GREAT!! It looks like it will be a ton of fun!
Quote from: djrashonal on October 20, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
I just popped into the thread and saw your post about muddy buddy. Me and the Mrs. are gonna sign up for the phoenix one! see ya guys there!!!
Awesome! We read that there are special prizes for costumed contestants so we'll likely be in full costume!!! ;D
We're both really excited about it! [thumbsup]
Quote from: wbeck257 on October 20, 2009, 05:06:34 PM
how did people get fit before this stuff then?
With the same amount of hard work but with twice the recovery time required between workouts.
Had an awesome workout today:
1 mi easy run to the track
2 x 100m, 100m recovery between
400m easy
2 x 200m, 100m recovery
400m easy
2 x 400, 100 recovery
400m easy
1 mi easy run home.
The cloudy, 57 degree weather was perfect.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on October 21, 2009, 07:44:26 AM
Had an awesome workout today:
1 mi easy run to the track
2 x 100m, 100m recovery between
400m easy
2 x 200m, 100m recovery
400m easy
2 x 400, 100 recovery
400m easy
1 mi easy run home.
The cloudy, 57 degree weather was perfect.
Excellent! Keep it up!
It was a little chilly for me this morning but I still did 16.5 miles this morning on my bicycle prior to arriving at work; it was 43 degrees here in AZ- I had to break out the arm and leg warmers this morning!
I find that if I can push myself (I'm not a morning workout person) that my days start out much better. It's getting up at 4:45am that's tough though!!!
Quote from: Monster Dave on October 21, 2009, 08:04:52 AM
It was a little chilly for me this morning but I still did 16.5 miles this morning on my bicycle prior to arriving at work; it was 43 degrees here in AZ- I had to break out the arm and leg warmers this morning!
Chilly? [roll]
Come ride with us this winter in Denver.
I use to take supplements but never even seen those around.. ill checkem out, guessing if I can't find them in a store I could try ordering..
Lol 43 chilly.. winter time we can't wait for 43 temps..
Quote from: cokey on October 21, 2009, 02:01:59 PM
Lol 43 chilly.. winter time we can't wait for 43 temps..
When your average summer temps are 115-125 and your seasons are summer, winter, summer, winter, etc.. 43 degrees comes quick and is just a bit chilly!!!! The days are great though - 75 today in the dead of winter - one reason that we do like Arizona.
yea one of the reasons i'm moving to Austin
checking some of the stuff online.. cytomax - do you drink the powder or bottled ones?
We buy the powder (tropical fruit flavor :D) from our local bike shop.
Quote from: SheMonster on October 21, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
We buy the powder (tropical fruit flavor :D) from our local bike shop.
We found it pretty easily. The powder dissolves really nice and is cheaper to buy for the quantity that you get too. The tropical fruit tastes good too! [thumbsup]
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_7?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cytomax&x=0&y=0&sprefix=cytomax (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_7?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cytomax&x=0&y=0&sprefix=cytomax)
various prices with a huge selection of flavors
Well...looks like the diet changes once again. Got high cholesterol...nothing unmanageable through diet but still an eye opener. And they said that with my current diet, 8 months ago I would have been borderline high risk but since I changed my diet, I have probably improved a large ammount.
Quote from: ZLTFUL on October 22, 2009, 01:09:05 PM
Well...looks like the diet changes once again. Got high cholesterol...nothing unmanageable through diet but still an eye opener. And they said that with my current diet, 8 months ago I would have been borderline high risk but since I changed my diet, I have probably improved a large ammount.
Good luck! I got my bloodwork back this week and I don't even want to talk about it. Really high. They want me on meds, I don't like taking pills. Off to workout......
Quote from: angler on October 22, 2009, 01:17:16 PM
Off to workout......
Smart move. After I started really training really hard I noticed changes that still surprise me - my resting heart rate dropped from 60 to 48, but most amazing has been my reflexes - it's not over exaggerating to say that I have Spidey-like reflexes and for the first time in almost 6 months, last weekend my sweetheart saw first and and said "holy crap that was fast" as I caught her cell phone as if fell from the top of the fridge when I opened the freezer without ever actually seeing it fall - it was amazing and moments like that seem to be happening more and more often.
Crazy!
Quote from: Monster Dave on October 22, 2009, 02:07:43 PM
Smart move.
In just one week my blood pressure went from way high to fine just by doing 45 minutes of cardio daily with a little yoga II tossed in. I'm hoping my cholesterol will be the same. Having blood drawn again in a month......
Quote from: Monster Dave on October 22, 2009, 02:07:43 PM
, but most amazing has been my reflexes - it's not over exaggerating to say that I have Spidey-like reflexes and for the first time in almost 6 months, last weekend my sweetheart saw first and and said "holy crap that was fast" as I caught her cell phone as if fell from the top of the fridge when I opened the freezer without ever actually seeing it fall - it was amazing and moments like that seem to be happening more and more often.
Crazy!
With great power comes great responsibility.
Quote from: DanTheMan on October 22, 2009, 02:10:57 PM
With great power comes great responsibility.
[laugh]
I knew someone would chime in with something like that!!! [cheeky]
Quote from: angler on October 22, 2009, 02:10:10 PM
In just one week my blood pressure went from way high to fine just by doing 45 minutes of cardio daily with a little yoga II tossed in. I'm hoping my cholesterol will be the same. Having blood drawn again in a month......
Fingers crossed for you....
Trying to get back into shape (instead of round). PFA (physical fitness assessment) yesterday yielded 64 pushups in 2 mins, 85 situps in 2 mins and a 12 min calories burn on the elliptical machine of 237. All told, that equaled an overall score of excellent low.
Today, group PT. 90 minutes of speedball! Fun stuff!
Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 22, 2009, 02:41:06 PM
Trying to get back into shape (instead of round). PFA (physical fitness assessment) yesterday yielded 64 pushups in 2 mins, 85 situps in 2 mins and a 12 min calories burn on the elliptical machine of 237. All told, that equaled an overall score of excellent low.
Today, group PT. 90 minutes of speedball! Fun stuff!
If I recall correctly, when I won the Most Athletic Man Competition in Cincinnati I did 112 pushups in 60 seconds, 92 situps in 60 seconds, and benched 425lbs 5 times while weighing in at only 145lbs, there was also a race but I don't recall the exact distance or time that I got.
Good job! Keep it up! [thumbsup]
Way to show me up man! [laugh]
I currently weigh about 200 (over my max weight but less than the maximum body fat composition).
The 2 mins was the maximum time. I just cranked out what I could and stopped, about a minute to a minute 15...
Brian Regan- Dinner Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QvSoRQrVJg#normal)
Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 22, 2009, 02:58:22 PM
Way to show me up man! [laugh]
I currently weigh about 200 (over my max weight but less than the maximum body fat composition).
The 2 mins was the maximum time. I just cranked out what I could and stopped, about a minute to a minute 15...
I didn't intend for it to sound that way - sorry - I trained really hard to get there so I was trying to relate to your efforts.
[thumbsup]
I know man, just messin with ya...
So on this whole running kick I've been on lately, I went ahead and signed up for a 5k.
http://www.skirtchaser5k.com/ (http://www.skirtchaser5k.com/)
Next Saturday, the 31st, in Savannah.
I plan on running in my kilt.
My goal at this point is to come in at <30 minutes, including the 3 minute penalty I incur for having a penis.
Quote from: Obsessed? on October 24, 2009, 01:05:04 PMI plan on running in my kilt.
We'll expect pictures. ;)
No worries there.
Quote from: Obsessed? on October 24, 2009, 01:05:04 PM
So on this whole running kick I've been on lately, I went ahead and signed up for a 5k.
http://www.skirtchaser5k.com/ (http://www.skirtchaser5k.com/)
Next Saturday, the 31st, in Savannah.
I plan on running in my kilt.
My goal at this point is to come in at <30 minutes, including the 3 minute penalty I incur for having a penis.
Excellent! Let us know how you do! Good luck! [thumbsup]
Had another 5K this morning.
Time was a minute slower than previous race. Hami's weren't in it today.
I still managed to place 1st in my age group. [beer]
Got a cheese cake as a prize, and won a growler of local brew in the raffle. [drink]
This 5k stuff is fun!!!
Ran one yesterday. I've got a few pics, but I'm waiting to see what pops up on the sponsor's website to see if they've got anything better.
Good news is I hit my target. 26:05.
Great job Obsessed and DD! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on October 22, 2009, 02:54:23 PM
If I recall correctly, when I won the Most Athletic Man Competition in Cincinnati I did 112 pushups in 60 seconds, 92 situps in 60 seconds, and benched 425lbs 5 times while weighing in at only 145lbs, there was also a race but I don't recall the exact distance or time that I got.
Good job! Keep it up! [thumbsup]
Damn MonsterD..425lb bench at 145!! :o
Knows now where the name "Monster Dave" came from. [laugh]
Although SheM may have another story to tell. No need to go there M!! [cheeky]
We had a similar test as Chris' in the Air Force. 85 pushups in a minute was my high trying out for Pararescue during BMTS.
http://www.military.com/military-fitness/air-force-special-operations/air-force-para-rescue (http://www.military.com/military-fitness/air-force-special-operations/air-force-para-rescue)
112 in a minute though?! [thumbsup]
BTW..did any of you runners dress for the ocassion yesterday? The friends we're staying with did their morning run in costume (Superman, Wonderwoman & a toga). I guess it was no bueno after the first mile and after 6.. :-X
Trying to get a pic forwarded.
[laugh]
No costume, per se, but the event was the Skirt Chaser 5k, so I wore my kilt.
Quote from: Obsessed? on November 01, 2009, 08:40:27 AM
No costume, per se, but the event was the Skirt Chaser 5k, so I wore my kilt.
I hope you wore a Utilikilt?! Much lighter than the traditional nd probably more comfortable?!
Nope. Just a black wool casual kilt. Fairly light weight by kilt standards, but wool nonetheless.
It's headed to the dry cleaner's tomorrow. :-X
I think I may need to cut out the sports from my exercise regimen. Speedball on Tuesday and Ultimate Frisbee on Thursday have taken their toll on my knee.
Unfortunately it now looks like I'm going to have to stick to boring elliptical based workouts...
Quote from: Mr. Exact on November 01, 2009, 01:12:34 PM
I think I may need to cut out the sports from my exercise regimen. Speedball on Tuesday and Ultimate Frisbee on Thursday have taken their toll on my knee.
Unfortunately it now looks like I'm going to have to stick to boring elliptical based workouts...
Yeah you'b better take care of that knee.
(http://www.golfswingrepair.com/images/senior-golf-exercises.jpg)
There is always golf...
(http://www.northof55.com/images/stories/site-images/golfer.jpg)
Says the guy who has the same problem ;D
Quote from: alfisti on November 01, 2009, 01:50:02 PM
Says the guy who has the same problem ;D
Wow, you got hit by a semi too? ;D
18 holes of golf on Friday didn't seem to help any either...
No one single major traumatic event.
Several small to medium sized ones have taken their toll though. :(
What about running to the fridge during commercial time? Is it considered excercise?
Not to mention the 12oz curls...
Quote from: M620D on November 01, 2009, 02:33:47 PM
What about running to the fridge during commercial time? Is it considered excercise?
Depends on how far away the fridge is. ;)
Quote from: Mr. Exact on November 01, 2009, 02:35:04 PM
Not to mention the 12oz curls...
What about the 'arm stretch' or the 's*** gotta go sprint?
I need to cut down the INCREDIBLE number of weekly calories from booze.
2 miles in fifteen flat.
5k in 24 and a half.
4 miles in 35.
finally hit one hundred pushups in a set (can rest briefly in plank) and about 12 pullups per set (that needs more work).
My 34s are now loose and I may need to buy 33s for the first time in my adult life.
but winter is coming. shit.
gonna need some motivation in this thread to get through the snow.
47 pounds lighter than when I joined the old DML. we NEVER want to go back to that right? ;D
Quote from: Statler on November 01, 2009, 02:40:34 PM
I need to cut down the INCREDIBLE number of weekly calories from booze.
2 miles in fifteen flat.
5k in 24 and a half.
4 miles in 35.
finally hit one hundred pushups in a set (can rest briefly in plank) and about 12 pullups per set (that needs more work).
My 34s are now loose and I may need to buy 33s for the first time in my adult life.
but winter is coming. shit.
gonna need some motivation in this thread to get through the snow.
47 pounds lighter than when I joined the old DML. we NEVER want to go back to that right? ;D
Keep on going Statler... winter is just your time between sets at the gym... Been 34 since I was 22, now 42, weight has gone up to 236, now 190, no gym no diet, just plain 'hard work' at a repair shop for 50 hrs a week is all you need... And don't forget sex, you burn circa 1600 calories in the act...
Quote from: M620D on November 01, 2009, 02:44:09 PM
Keep on going Statler... winter is just your time between sets at the gym... Been 34 since I was 22, now 42, weight has gone up to 236, now 190, no gym no diet, just plain 'hard work' at a repair shop for 50 hrs a week is all you need... And don't forget sex, you burn circa 1600 calories in the act...
G stays thin with 12 hour shifts where she just doesn't stop moving. I'm the type that doesn't understand how she stays awake that long. tequila and a lounge chair please.
gonna try to get myself some abs for my 39th bday in feb. ok...maybe by sailing in May.... ok.....maybe by summer. ;D
big difference between 234 and 190...keep at it. whatever works. (the athletic sex is easier when in shape...vicious circle).
Quote from: Statler on November 01, 2009, 02:40:34 PM
I need to cut down the INCREDIBLE number of weekly calories from booze.
2 miles in fifteen flat.
5k in 24 and a half.
4 miles in 35.
finally hit one hundred pushups in a set (can rest briefly in plank) and about 12 pullups per set (that needs more work).
My 34s are now loose and I may need to buy 33s for the first time in my adult life.
but winter is coming. shit.
gonna need some motivation in this thread to get through the snow.
47 pounds lighter than when I joined the old DML. we NEVER want to go back to that right? ;D
You best stop eating then, because I
know you're not gonna stop drinking. ;)
Quote from: ducpainter on November 01, 2009, 05:01:59 PM
You best stop eating then, because I know you're not gonna stop drinking. ;)
Oooooooohhh...
The solution was right in front of me the whole time!
overweight?
push yourself away from the table 3 times a day. ;D
I was glad to find out today that my knee is fine with sustained 8-12% climbs on the bicycle. [thumbsup]
Not bad two weeks after dropping my Duc on it. :P
Quote from: somegirl on November 01, 2009, 05:38:21 PM
I was glad to find out today that my knee is fine with sustained 8-12% climbs on the bicycle. [thumbsup]
Not bad two weeks after dropping my Duc on it. :P
We'll that's good to hear! I didn't hear that you dropped your Duc - how did I miss that?
Well we've been out riding a lot. There's 19 days left until the Tour de Tucson and I'm stoked! I'm really aiming for the gold medal, to get that I have to complete 109 miles in 5 hrs or less. I'm hoping to do another 100 mile ride before the race and to test my progress since my last run at 6 hours 4 minutes.
Did anyone see that an American FINALLY won the NY marathon last weekend?
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 02, 2009, 05:17:36 AM
We'll that's good to hear! I didn't hear that you dropped your Duc - how did I miss that?
It was in the Crash Analysis thread...bad combination of wet leaves hiding a Botts Dot and less-than-new tires while turning into my driveway. No major harm done.
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 02, 2009, 05:17:36 AMWell we've been out riding a lot. There's 19 days left until the Tour de Tucson and I'm stoked! I'm really aiming for the gold medal, to get that I have to complete 109 miles in 5 hrs or less. I'm hoping to do another 100 mile ride before the race and to test my progress since my last run at 6 hours 4 minutes.
Looking forward to your report on the ride. [thumbsup]
Yea, an american finally one YESTERDAY.. last time it was in 82' I believe..
Quote from: somegirl on November 02, 2009, 10:27:38 AM
It was in the Crash Analysis thread...bad combination of wet leaves hiding a Botts Dot and less-than-new tires while turning into my driveway. No major harm done.
Looking forward to your report on the ride. [thumbsup]
We'll be sure to take pics and write up a good review of the event! I'm glad that you and your bike are alright!
Quote from: cokey on November 02, 2009, 10:42:07 AM
Yea, an american finally one YESTERDAY.. last time it was in 82' I believe..
Sadly though that winning is only superficial as he wasn't born and bread in the USA - rather he fled his home country that was at war with Ethiopia back in the late 80's and was naturalized in the USA.
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 02, 2009, 10:47:01 AM
Sadly though that winning is only superficial as he wasn't born and bread in the USA - rather he fled his home country that was at war with Ethiopia back in the late 80's and was naturalized in the USA.
Pffft-we're a melting pot. He's an American.
He would probably also tell you that he was not "bread" anywhere. :P
Quote from: MrIncredible on November 02, 2009, 11:03:20 AM
Pffft-we're a melting pot. He's an American.
He would probably also tell you that he was not "bread" anywhere. :P
I really didn't mean my comment to sound badly towards the winner....congrats to him. [thumbsup]
The "born and bred" was used as an expression. I have no problems with people immigrating to the US, we are a melting pot - you're right!
I was only expecting someone like Armstrong to have pulled it off.
No offence intended - it sounded better in my head than it came across in typing.
Eh ill try an win it one year lol
I just agreed to fight one of my classmates in a three-round in-school "smoker" in early December.
As soon as I finish this cigarette, I'm gonna go jump rope.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on November 03, 2009, 04:46:01 AM
I just agreed to fight one of my classmates in a three-round in-school "smoker" in early December.
As soon as I finish this cigarette, I'm gonna go jump rope.
And put a face on like this that will intimidate the heck out of him:
(http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Rocky_Clubber_Lang_Magnet.jpg)
Looks like I sprained my big toe some how while running (wtf).. sucks since my jon intitles walking a lot and haveing to go up n down stairs... carrying my tools.. happend Sunday.. if by tomorrow I can't run, guess ill take a 30-40 mile bike rid..
So B and my coworkers have convinced me to run a 10K on Turkey day.
B and I will be visiting some of his family down in Wilmington, DE, so I'll be running the PNC Bank 10K for MS.
From about mile 3.25 to 5.75 is a hill of about 3% grade. Doesn't sound like much, but all the running I been doing around here is flat.
To prepare I have added some 200m hill repeats and will be doing hilly runs, south of the city, on my long runs.
Today I did 7 miles. This was the route.
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn43/Desmodiva/DMF/110809Run.jpg)
Next week will be the same or similar. :P
That's awesome!
We're eagerly counting down the days until El Tour de Tucson - as of this post there's only 11 left! I'm aiming for a gold medal so that means 109 miles in under 6hrs, which I think is very resonable barring any unexpected events - flat tires, red lights, accidents....
(http://www.perimeterbicycling.com/!ETT/images07/MapLogo.gif)
(http://www.perimeterbicycling.com/!ETT/Elv2002.gif)
I had yesterday off in observance of Veterans Day, so I decided to get out and do a long bike ride. I ended up beating 67.5 miles out yesterday with 28 miles riding into a 20mph headwind!! I was exhausted by the time I got done. But I burned just under 5000 calories and am really not too sore today thanks to the Cytomax that I took during and after the ride.
Cycling is truly an exercise in pain - how much can you take? How much can you push though? Can you psychologically see thought it and push your body even harder when you are in excruciating pain?
I firmly believe that is the reason that cycling is considered the most difficult endurance sport in the world.
It was an awesome accomplishment for me given the wind force. I was cooking along for the first 30 miles at about 28mph, but the 20mph head wind that I hit when I turned South knocked my speed down to 10-13 mph and to top that, it was a slightly uphill climb for nearly the whole southern portion of my route.
I didn't bonk, but I think that I was close.
Hope everyone else is keeping up the effort! [thumbsup]
Ugh wind, drives me nuts.. not the fact of slowing you down... just the feel of it though.. it irks me when I ride.. lol, too bad can't do anything about it though..
How are you counting calories while riding? Using the mathamatical way or a device of sorts?
I have a heart rate monitor (chest strap to wrist watch) that tracks my caloric burn, heart rates, averages, the works.
I've never been a fan of the whole personal trainer thing but I just joined a gym that came with three free sessions so, eh, what the hell.
Well this morning was my first session and damn, this guy was good. I felt consistently challenged, was doing different things, had a good time and at the end I realized I was REALLY beat. Can't wait until my next free session where I do upper body!
Quote from: DesmoLu on November 12, 2009, 09:34:37 AM
I've never been a fan of the whole personal trainer thing but I just joined a gym that came with three free sessions so, eh, what the hell.
Well this morning was my first session and damn, this guy was good. I felt consistently challenged, was doing different things, had a good time and at the end I realized I was REALLY beat. Can't wait until my next free session where I do upper body!
WTF???
I am going to kill this mothermake the beast with two backser. That is all.
Quote from: El Matador on November 12, 2009, 10:13:05 AM
WTF???
I am going to kill this mothermake the beast with two backser. That is all.
Better watch out Matador....he might throw in a few more free sessions [evil]
[laugh] so is now not the time to mention the session that was only supposed to be a half hour was one hour?
at the least the guy who tried to hit on me at the gym today failed hardcore - his opening line was, "wow, is that really your Buell outside?"
Quote from: DesmoLu on November 12, 2009, 12:51:05 PM
at the least the guy who tried to hit on me at the gym today failed hardcore - his opening line was, "wow, is that really your Buell outside?"
Owned. [cheeky]
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 12, 2009, 05:48:21 AM
Cycling is truly an exercise in pain - how much can you take? How much can you push though? Can you psychologically see thought it and push your body even harder when you are in excruciating pain?
I firmly believe that is the reason that cycling is considered the most difficult endurance sport in the world.
Well, yeah-any sport where I have to listen to bicyclists talk about carbon fiber water bottle holders, and what crank with what pedals, and the fact that most of them have no idea how a bicycle actually turns couldn't be anything but excruciating.
The pedaling ain't so bad though.
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 12, 2009, 05:48:21 AM
I firmly believe that is the reason that cycling is considered the most difficult endurance sport in the world.
I challenge you to do this and say the same then>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Rowing_Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Rowing_Championship)
My hands have never been the same.
that's one of the best exerces ever.. thats a full body work out right there..
Quote from: DucLeone on October 02, 2009, 06:00:43 AM
looking at a scale that suddenly sais 200+ (after beeing around 180 for the past couple of years)was reason for me to start, one of my workers convinced me to start the p90x,so i did today for the first time.
it kicked my ass and showed me how out of shape i am.
Any further thoughts? I have been really wanting to try this because I am not good at working out on my own schedule. Did you keep up with it? Results? If anyone else can weigh in on P90x please let me know before I spend the money.
Quote from: metallimonster on November 16, 2009, 08:49:55 AM
Any further thoughts? I have been really wanting to try this because I am not good at working out on my own schedule. Did you keep up with it? Results? If anyone else can weigh in on P90x please let me know before I spend the money.
P90x is tough because its usually a whole body workout regardless of what you're focusing on that day.It doesnt let your muscles learn the routine which is good. I think the guy totes "muscle confusion" it's hard, but worth the money, and the recipe book has a few really good recipes in there. you can also borrow someone elses, or see if you can find it used on craigslist. enjoy!
PS - Yoga kicks your ass
Quote from: metallimonster on November 16, 2009, 08:49:55 AM
Any further thoughts? I have been really wanting to try this because I am not good at working out on my own schedule. Did you keep up with it? Results? If anyone else can weigh in on P90x please let me know before I spend the money.
A colleague of mine and her husband have the series and say that it really kicks butt. But it's no different than going to the gym and being a part of a class with other people. If it better suits your needs, I'd say try and borrow it from anyone if you know someone with it - but you probably don't since you're asking for input. I'm not sure how much they paid for it, but if it helps you, then it would be money well spent.
I think I'm going to start it right after I finish this semister in school. I have a friend who has it but wanted to get some other opinions from people I know are real rather than read it on the P90X website. Seems like it is the best option for me. Not a big fan of going to the gym but need a program and someone telling me what to do. Sticking to the diet will be the hardest part for me by far.
Quote from: metallimonster on November 16, 2009, 09:07:51 AM
Sticking to the diet will be the hardest part for me by far.
If you can get yourself burning enough calories (get a heart rate monitor w/chest strap to see), your dieting can be a little more relaxed and not too extreme. That's normally that part that kills everyones' drive - people workout really hard, then don't eat right and basically nullify what work they actually did. But by increasing your caloric burn (immediate) with cardio, combining it with weights (for longer sustained caloric burn), you should be able to manage a stable diet and see pretty good results.
Quote from: Ivan V on November 16, 2009, 09:40:47 AM
Normally I enjoy 5-6 days of training per week out of witch 1-2 days of cardio and rest lifting weights.
First of all - that's a great attitude to have! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
My routine is varied from day to day, but consistent as a routine. When I go to the gym and am foucsing on building and I'm in the
off season (I'm a cyclist so right now I'm training to be lean and fast), I like to go 4-5 days a week and do as you said with several days of cardio. Some of those days I actually prefer to combine weights and cardio on the same days.
Usually though, here's my routine:
Sunday - Off
Monday - Shoulders, Chest, Biceps, Abs, Legs
Tuesday - Cadio (hard), Abs
Wed - Shoulders, Back, Lats, Triceps, Abs
Thurs - Cardio (hard), Abs
Friday - Shoulders Chest, Bicepts, Abs, Legs
Saturday - Off or only Cardio
A lot of what I like to do is strength building, but I love isolating muscle groups for really intense workouts. For example, on Monday's and Fridays, two of my favorite muscle groups to work are chest and biceps, so I'll do alternating exerciese for the muscle groups, and vary intensity and weight depending on the exercise. I like to end strong, but burning. The sort of pain that "hurts so good".
[thumbsup]
Quote from: metallimonster on November 16, 2009, 09:07:51 AM
I think I'm going to start it right after I finish this semister in school. I have a friend who has it but wanted to get some other opinions from people I know are real rather than read it on the P90X website. Seems like it is the best option for me. Not a big fan of going to the gym but need a program and someone telling me what to do. Sticking to the diet will be the hardest part for me by far.
It's great because you can do it whenever you want at home, if you get busy with something and dont get a chance to work out until later, it works with your schedule and you dont have to wait for a class to start or anything, my fiance loves it because she doesnt feel like she's being watched at the gym and she feels more comfortable doing some of the sillier (yet effective) moves. The diet BTW, is treacherous! Good Luck!
I'm worried about the diet. Never really done one before. I think having the 30 day intervals can really help me focus and stay on track. I feel like I can do anything for 90 days.
So here is my next question. I am out of shape and about 15-20lbs overweight. Should I consider doing another program first? I have plenty of experiance with working out just not in the last 1.5 years. My plan is to do some running and weight training on my own for a month before I start the P90x.
Quote from: metallimonster on November 16, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
I'm worried about the diet. Never really done one before. I think having the 30 day intervals can really help me focus and stay on track. I feel like I can do anything for 90 days.
So here is my next question. I am out of shape and about 15-20lbs overweight. Should I consider doing another program first? I have plenty of experiance with working out just not in the last 1.5 years. My plan is to do some running and weight training on my own for a month before I start the P90x.
It sounds like you already know what you want/need to do since you've got a plan already. I'd do that, but you need a means to keep track of your progress. For me, I use a database in which I log all of my calories burned then graph them out; I'm a visual person, so over time it helps me to see my trends, but what really helps is to get to a point where I'm seeing my caloric burn and I set mental baselines for my minimum levels. It sounds extreme, but I've got to a place where if I'm not burning at least 2000 calories, then I feel like I haven't even made my time worthwhile.
That's just what works for me. Remember that you have to find what works for YOU. You can't do what anyone else is doing, because your body will respond in its own way.
I agree that getting started for a month or two will get you back into a routine where you can decide about the P90x or not. No one wants to waste $$.
startings any heavy regiment after being off for a while is hard on the body, if you strain your body too much in the beginning you could stand to hurt yourself or put yourself in a position where you would have to minimize your training. That said, I think you've got the right idea of starting with a bit of cardio and stuff just to get going. Dave is right, you have to find what works for you. I used to do P90x as the workout and just eat more healthily, not follow their diet plan. P90x is strenuous, and is just a reccomendation. You can do the program 2-3 times a week and run the other couple days....something like that. I'm sure there are ways to ease into the fulltime regiment. Again, you know your body the best and what's best for you, just dont push yourself too hard in the beginning, dont want you to get sick, or worse, hurt!
Quote from: djrashonal on November 16, 2009, 11:30:54 AM
...dont want you to get sick, or worse, hurt!
[thumbsup]
Which reminds me, I always recommend that people who are just starting back take a good multi-vitamin. If you're not taking any at all and do jump head long into a routine, double them up for a week, then back it down to one a day after that. Getting sick is a terrible strain on your motivation and effective ability to get into a routine and stay there.
i agree.....centrum is great! :P
Quote from: djrashonal on November 16, 2009, 12:20:50 PM
i agree.....centrum is great! :P
It doesn't have to be all blahhh :P
You could always go...
(http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/50737.jpg)
;D
Actually comparing Centrum to Flintstones is pretty close! And look, Fred is really happy!
wait wait wait...my fiance told me i couldnt have flintstones cuz it didnt have as much Vit D....you mean I dont have to suffer through the chalk? I'm going home and giving her a piece of my mind! Then going straight to the store!
Quote from: djrashonal on November 16, 2009, 12:43:41 PM
wait wait wait...my fiance told me i couldnt have flintstones cuz it didnt have as much Vit D....you mean I dont have to suffer through the chalk? I'm going home and giving her a piece of my mind! Then going straight to the store!
Website says 100% of adult daily value for vitamin D. [thumbsup]
You're never too old to be a Flintstones Kid!
Quote from: metallimonster on November 16, 2009, 08:49:55 AM
Any further thoughts? I have been really wanting to try this because I am not good at working out on my own schedule. Did you keep up with it? Results? If anyone else can weigh in on P90x please let me know before I spend the money.
:-[ :-[
i've been bad as far as sticking to it, but it definatly kick your ass when you do it.
i like the DVD as there is always diffrent ways to every routine,first time i did it i was going to try the abs dvd first, since it was the shortest one and i wanned to die. [puke]
but i'm not in the best shape either at the moment,i did cut down on eating (wery hard thing to do owning a restaurant) eating more salads and no late night snacks, now back down to 188lb.
but i do plan on getting back to the p90x once my back stops hurting ,hope soon....
Trader Joe's makes yummy gummy vitamins for adults - both multi and omega-3s. They are actually cheaper than the Flintstone's I think.
I love them. and have a terrible urge to pop them like candy!
Quote from: DesmoLu on November 17, 2009, 10:49:40 PM
Trader Joe's makes yummy gummy vitamins for adults - both multi and omega-3s. They are actually cheaper than the Flintstone's I think.
I love them. and have a terrible urge to pop them like candy!
......well i Just happen to be heading to trader joes right.......now! *beats feet out the door*
LOL, sounds like you hate those chalky vitamins as much as I do!!! ;D
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 18, 2009, 07:44:36 AM
LOL, sounds like you hate those chalky vitamins as much as I do!!! ;D
yes sir, and every morning our conversation goes as follows:
Her: Honey do you want you vitamin?
Me: I believe the correct answer here is yes?
Her: I'm not going to force you to eat it, but just know you need these nutrients to.....
Me: YES PLEASE!
We'll see what she says when I bring home gummy bears......i mean vitamins :o
Or in my case, El Matador sheepishly gets busted pounding my gummy vitamins like candy.
The omega-3 ones are key. I mean damn, those pills smell so foul!
You'd think that they'd get the drift that they taste aweful and would make vitamins more....flavorful! :)
We'll we're down to the last 2 days leading up to El Tour de Tucson - 109 mile bicycle race. I'm really excited and nervous all at the same time. It will be my first race, my first century race, and a huge achievement for me. I'm aiming to complete the 109 mile in 5.5 hours or less (the or less depends on wind, and other things out of my control!!).
I've been training really hard and feel ready. I'm taking tonight to workout at the gym, do a little work on a spin bike, but then take Friday off so that I'm ready for Saturday morning. The race kicks off at 7:30am, but the staging starts at about 4am. So it'll be an early morning for sure!!! As it stands, there are currently a little over 8000 cyclists registered for various distances (109, 80, 66, 35 miles). A large portion of the proceeds are allocated for charity and medical research (leukemia, Parkinson's, etc...) and last year they earned nearly 1.4 million dollars for a variety of organizations.
Also, last years race set some new best times for the 109 mileage with teams finishing in under 4 hours!!
I'll be sure to post up the results after it's over!
Hey man,
Good luck and thanks for a little inspiration. I started a little jogging today and am getting ready to hit it hard when my semister is over in 3 weeks.
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 19, 2009, 06:42:37 AM
We'll we're down to the last 2 days leading up to El Tour de Tucson - 109 mile bicycle race. I'm really excited and nervous all at the same time. It will be my first race, my first century race, and a huge achievement for me. I'm aiming to complete the 109 mile in 5.5 hours or less (the or less depends on wind, and other things out of my control!!).
I've been training really hard and feel ready. I'm taking tonight to workout at the gym, do a little work on a spin bike, but then take Friday off so that I'm ready for Saturday morning. The race kicks off at 7:30am, but the staging starts at about 4am. So it'll be an early morning for sure!!! As it stands, there are currently a little over 8000 cyclists registered for various distances (109, 80, 66, 35 miles). A large portion of the proceeds are allocated for charity and medical research (leukemia, Parkinson's, etc...) and last year they earned nearly 1.4 million dollars for a variety of organizations.
Also, last years race set some new best times for the 109 mileage with teams finishing in under 4 hours!!
I'll be sure to post up the results after it's over!
I live up at w cortaro and thornydale, anywhere close by i can hang out and watch you guys zoom by?
Thanks for the encouragement - and I'm glad that my efforts are helping to motivate others! Excellent!
DJ, the route has us coming from south on Silverbell to east on Ina and south on the frontage road along the highway. That's probably the closest place for you to see us. Cyclists will start coming by there by 11:30am or so. If all goes according to plan I should be coming by there between 12:30 and 1:30pm.
I found out yesterday that friends of mine who run On Any Moto (on Grant) will be out there showing support at Grant and the frontage road - that was an unexpected surprise that really got me feeling great! If you've ever met any of the guys there (or not), I'm sure they'd love to have anyone who's thinking coming out join up with them!
Thanks! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
P90X Yoga = ASS KICKER!
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 19, 2009, 07:51:38 AM
Thanks for the encouragement - and I'm glad that my efforts are helping to motivate others! Excellent!
DJ, the route has us coming from south on Silverbell to east on Ina and south on the frontage road along the highway. That's probably the closest place for you to see us. Cyclists will start coming by there by 11:30am or so. If all goes according to plan I should be coming by there between 12:30 and 1:30pm.
I found out yesterday that friends of mine who run On Any Moto (on Grant) will be out there showing support at Grant and the frontage road - that was an unexpected surprise that really got me feeling great! If you've ever met any of the guys there (or not), I'm sure they'd love to have anyone who's thinking coming out join up with them!
Thanks! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
<threadjack>
Yea Dave! I may swing by there, I'm buddies with Scott and Jessica, and know the other guys. Did you hit up the anniversary party last saturday? BTW....why dont you and the mrs ever come to any of the DesmoSW outings? shame on you
</theadjack>
/Threadjack response/
Yes I was there, but didn't make it out until almost the end - I got my bike all washed up and beautiful only to have it rain. :-\
We're pretty busy during the week, especially in training for El Tour, which is why we never make it to any of the meetings.
/end threadjack response/
I'm not sure who's all going to be out there for me, but Michael seemed really excited to do it! Should be fun. I'm planning on positioning myself near that side of the road when I fly by to see everyone! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 19, 2009, 11:11:19 AM
/Threadjack response/
Yes I was there, but didn't make it out until almost the end - I got my bike all washed up and beautiful only to have it rain. :-\
We're pretty busy during the week, especially in training for El Tour, which is why we never make it to any of the meetings.
/end threadjack response/
I'm not sure who's all going to be out there for me, but Michael seemed really excited to do it! Should be fun. I'm planning on positioning myself near that side of the road when I fly by to see everyone! [thumbsup]
sounds good! I'll look for ya, maybe Michael will try to sneak in the race on his Multi, see if anyone notices [moto]
Good luck with the Tour this weekend, Dave. [thumbsup]
Thanks everyone for the good wishes, it means a lot to me! I'm really excited about this race and can't believe that it's here already!!!
after going the the doctor last week, I found out that since getting back into hockey, I've lost 8lbs
so, y'know... that's good, I guess :)
Good work! [thumbsup]
Exercise can be fun.
what I need is to get back to gym, though... or find something compact enough that I could use at home
Good luck with the ride, Monster Dave & SheMonster!
I just dusted off the roadie and put a few miles on it this afternoon. Felt good to be back on it after about a 3 month hiatus. [thumbsup]
I'm dusting off the fork and bulking up for winter.
;D
Good luck Dave!!!
Have a great ride MD and SM! [thumbsup]
I hope MD and SM aren't still on the course riding. ???
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 22, 2009, 07:29:42 AM
I hope MD and SM aren't still on the course riding. ???
Me too!
I'm waiting for a ride report. :)
"Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course,
He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse.
He's going the distance."
Quote from: djrashonal on November 22, 2009, 12:57:05 PM
"Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course,
He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse.
He's going the distance."
ok, cake ;)
Just got back from a spin class.
Not my most favorite form of exercise, but I've decided to get a head start on the next riding season.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 22, 2009, 07:29:42 AM
I hope MD and SM aren't still on the course riding. ???
Hi everybody, and thanks for the support! Unfortunately the 109 mile race ended for David at about the 90 mile mark when another cyclist drifted over, cut him off and hit him, causing him to go down at 30+ mph on a downhill. No broken bones thank goodness, but he is road rashed all over much much worse than when he was in the accident on his Monster. He won't be able to post up himself until his hands heal up enough to type, or the Vicodin kicks in well enough that it doesn't hurt too bad. To finish with a gold medal, you have to finish in less than 6 hours. He was on track to finish in about 5 1/2 hours. His first ever race would have been a gold medal finish :(
That SUCKS! >:( Hope he heals fast.
Quote from: SheMonster on November 23, 2009, 06:29:25 AM
Hi everybody, and thanks for the support! Unfortunately the 109 mile race ended for David at about the 90 mile mark when another cyclist drifted over, cut him off and hit him, causing him to go down at 30+ mph on a downhill. No broken bones thank goodness, but he is road rashed all over much much worse than when he was in the accident on his Monster. He won't be able to post up himself until his hands heal up enough to type, or the Vicodin kicks in well enough that it doesn't hurt too bad. To finish with a gold medal, you have to finish in less than 6 hours. He was on track to finish in about 5 1/2 hours. His first ever race would have been a gold medal finish :(
wow, im sure i speak for a lot of people on here - "feel better, and lets find the other guy....grab your pitchforks!"
So sorry Dave, hope you heal up quickly. :-\
Sorry to hear about Dave's crash. :'(
Heal up quick.
SM, be a good nurse. [thumbsup]
Quote from: DesmoDiva on November 23, 2009, 07:20:10 AM
Sorry to hear about Dave's crash. :'(
Heal up quick.
SM, be a good nurse. [thumbsup]
I plan to go pick up one of those "naughty nurse" outfits to help take his mind off the pain when I have to change the bandages [evil]
Quote from: djrashonal on November 23, 2009, 06:36:24 AM
wow, im sure i speak for a lot of people on here - "feel better, and lets find the other guy....grab your pitchforks!"
The guy who caused David (and another rider) to go down wasn't hurt too badly and didn't even stick around, just got up and continued his race :-\
Quote from: SheMonster on November 23, 2009, 07:48:34 AM
The guy who caused David (and another rider) to go down wasn't hurt too badly and didn't even stick around, just got up and continued his race :-\
Wow, dont worry, karma will catch up to him.....he'll prolly get herpes or something
So VERY sorry to hear about your pavement surf, Dave!!! I know how much you guys were looking forward to this event.
Track down some Tegaderm, in the largest patches you can find. Once the road rash is THOROUGHLY cleaned, apply a patch over the rash. Don't use antibiotic creams or anything that will inhibit the sticking of the patch. Tegaderm will keep the wound from scabbing over, allowing much faster healing. The wound stays moist which looks really, really disgusting, but is much more comfortable & promotes faster regeneration of skin cells. I've dealt with my share of road rash (I was going to say more than my share, but I guess I earned every square cm of it), and Tegaderm promotes much faster healing and is much more comfortable than any of the other half dozen or so methods I've tried.
http://www.dressings.org/Dressings/tegaderm.html (http://www.dressings.org/Dressings/tegaderm.html)
Quote from: triangleforge on November 23, 2009, 08:15:28 AM
Once the road rash is THOROUGHLY cleaned ...
Oh, yes the rashed parts (back of hands, fingers, forearm, knee, the sides of both hips, back, and shoulder blades) were very thoroughly cleaned. The nurse who did it was as gentle as she could be and still get the job done. All I can say is, wow, that process is ... rough :o I'm sure David has a bit more to say on that subject. :(
Thanks for the tip on the Tegaderm, we will definately look into that!
Sorry to hear about the incident.
Unfortunately, in rides or races with that many participants, it happens. And also just as unfortunate are riders like the one who hit MonsterDave and just takes off who give cyclists a bad name. Karma will catch up with him someday.
Heal up quick, MD. [thumbsup]
oh no, Dave down! Heal up fast and sorry about that rogue cyclist!
SheMonster, sounds like you're taking good care of him and the nurse outfit is a nice touch. Whatever you do, don't take any nursing tips from El Matador. He thinks electrical tape is good for scabs...
get better soon dave :(
I'm bored.
The dog is sleeping.
I think I'll go to the gym.
so it's been exactly two weeks since i joined my new gym....
and I already got into a fight with someone >:(
Quote from: DesmoLu on November 24, 2009, 11:09:29 AM
so it's been exactly two weeks since i joined my new gym....
and I already got into a fight with someone >:(
was it matador?
You: No baby, he was just showing me the the exercise.....no no, im not spending more money on private lessons, they're complimentary
Quote from: SheMonster on November 23, 2009, 09:13:53 AM
Oh, yes the rashed parts (back of hands, fingers, forearm, knee, the sides of both hips, back, and shoulder blades) were very thoroughly cleaned. The nurse who did it was as gentle as she could be and still get the job done. All I can say is, wow, that process is ... rough :o I'm sure David has a bit more to say on that subject. :(
Thanks for the tip on the Tegaderm, we will definately look into that!
Aw man! Poor Dave. I hope he feels better soon.
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4062320/2/istockphoto_4062320-full-body-cast.jpg)
How do you get in a fight at the gym?
Actually ive had people try to "steal" machines from me or be rude in the water line. Oh and spinning class they are ruthless, better get your bike early.
Quote from: DanTheMan on November 24, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
How do you get in a fight at the gym?
You've not met DesmoLu, have you?
[evil]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 24, 2009, 12:46:00 PM
You've not met DesmoLu, have you?
[evil]
:-[
ok, so conflict avoidance is not in my skill set...
I may have told a woman that was trying to steal my machine with the excuse of "trying to stay warm" that she "looked to be perfectly well-insulated to me." *MAY* have....
MD & SM,
Sorry to hear about the accident, being there myself.
Just relax, don't move abruptly and let time take care of everything, including 'ill feelings' for the guy who caused the accident.
Once winter is over, get on your motorbikes and ride 'em like you stole 'em ...
Gospeed and get well soon!!!
Quote from: DesmoLu on November 24, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
I may have told a woman that was trying to steal my machine
Your gym gives you your own machine? That's awesome.
Quote from: DesmoLu on November 24, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
:-[
ok, so conflict avoidance is not in my skill set...
I was just going off the pics of you angrily punting a doll at a toy store....
;)
Quote from: kopfjäger on November 24, 2009, 03:34:19 PM
Your gym gives you your own machine? That's awesome.
hey now, I'm all for sharing, but when I'm the middle of supersets and someone who has to completely change the setup of the machine and is rude about it, the situation changes >:(
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 24, 2009, 03:40:10 PM
I was just going off the pics of you angrily punting a doll at a toy store....
;)
that was a doll? i thought it was a baby ???
that wasn't done in anger, either. didn't you note the look of sheer delight upon my face?
Quote from: Darkmonster620 formerly M620D on November 24, 2009, 03:16:59 PM
MD & SM,
Sorry to hear about the accident, being there myself.
Just relax, don't move abruptly and let time take care of everything, including 'ill feelings' for the guy who caused the accident.
Thanks for the well wishes, they are truly appreciated :)
Quote from: Darkmonster620 formerly M620D on November 24, 2009, 03:16:59 PM
Once winter is over, get on your motorbikes and ride 'em like you stole 'em ...
We live in Arizona - what is this "winter" thing you speak of? ;)
Quote from: SheMonster on November 25, 2009, 03:00:34 AM
We live in Arizona - what is this "winter" thing you speak of? ;)
Do I need to dig up your "chilly morning" responses?
;)
Hey everyone. Thank you so much for your well wishes. Im healing up slowly but surley. The worst part is my hand but thankfully nothing was broken; i just have 1 good finger to use and my thumb on the right hand until my fingers heal up...
So what happened? I was racing in El Tour de Tucson, and was 91 miles into a 109 mile race when another cyclist who was slightly ahead of me took out my front wheel with his rear wheel at about 28mph when he failed to acknowledge 2 verbal warnings by me to hold his line because there was no where for me to go given that I was rolling with a pack of riders and he was coming into my ride line. I did brake, but everything happened so fast that there was very little that I could do to effect the situation. I belive that we both went down, but when the bike patrol and EMTs got to me (which was nearly immediate), there was no one else around. So yes, the guy continued on and didnt even bother to check on my status - for that I have no respect.
When I began to fall, out of previous martial arts training, I tried to tuck in on myself to protect my body during the fall. Given that my feet were clipped into the pedals, I was limited on how much tuck and roll that I could manage, but what I did do seems to have saved my face from asphalt impact and my body from any broken bones. THANK YOU TRAINING!!!!
Of all the possible sacrafices and injuries that could have happened, I'm relativly pleased with what "little" damage my body took from such a fast and hard impact (hands, elbow, back, both hips, knee). I've slept the last 3 days, and am feeling a good bit better today. Fortuntaly the wound cleaning has eased and the healing process is well underway.
It's taken me about an hour just to type this with limited typing ability, but I'm here and trying - a good thing I think! In the mean time Im catching up on movies and currently watching Long Way Round and Long Way Down and dreaming of a motorcycle adventure...
In regards to repairs, I did learn that the damage to my bicycle was minimal and it was repaired yesterday. I have gear that needs replaced, but that's to be expected. I'll post up race pics later next week for anyone interested.
Thanks again for all of your support and encouragement,
David.
Thanks for the update Dave. [thumbsup]
Heal up quick. Drink some [drink] to ease the pain.
+11ty billion to the Tegaderm suggestion. It is magic stuff. [thumbsup]
Quote from: SheMonster on November 25, 2009, 03:00:34 AM
Thanks for the well wishes, they are truly appreciated :)
You're welcome, I used to ride a mountain bike, so I do really know the feeling or no feeling at times of body parts.
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We live in Arizona - what is this "winter" thing you speak of? ;)
Sorry, I didn't realized you lived in Arizona... For me winter is, 10 months of continous rain here in Panama or cold and snow if not here at home[Germany comes to mind]... Forgot those places where winter is still like summer...
MD, +xxxillio on the [drink], but, don't go House on us with the Vicodin, will ya?
Have a look of my house. surroundings and damaged bike... Well , bike's status is, waiting on forks http://www.flickr.com/photos/darkmonster620/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/darkmonster620/)
Damn no way of finding the douchebag then huh..? That's still a good bit of damage you took man.. I've been hit 7 times while I was a bike messenger (4 cabs, a bus, a truck and a minivan) and worse I ever gotten was a scrape on a knee.. hope for a speedy recovery..
Unfortunately crashes are part of bike racing, even at the highest level.
LE TOUR DE FRANCE 2008 - CRASH COMPILATION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Zg5ozjnZE#normal)
That is true.. but what if it was intent.?
Hey everyone! I'm back! I've had a solid 8 days of rest and healing and I returned to work today and feel pretty good. Most of my road rash has healed and what's not completely healed is well underway. My hand and knee are still the two lagging and slightly sore areas, but I can type again and think that I'll be back to the gym this week. It feels good to have my energy back and to not be in so much pain every time I shower - no more scrubbing open wounds for me for a while!! LOL
Thanks again for all of your support and well wishes! Now back to the grind!! [thumbsup]
Glad to hear! [thumbsup]
After having my accident, I highly recommend that no matter what you do for a sport that you guys look into ROADID. It was highly beneficial to the paramedics and Police on the scene.
Here's an example:
(http://www.underonesky.com/uosweb/e107_images/newspost_images/products_wristid_lg.jpg)
$19.95
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 30, 2009, 10:38:29 AM
After having my accident, I highly recommend that no matter what you do for a sport that you guys look into ROADID. It was highly beneficial to the paramedics and Police on the scene.
Here's an example:
(http://www.underonesky.com/uosweb/e107_images/newspost_images/products_wristid_lg.jpg)
$19.95
I think if I got one, the third number on there would have to be "Jenny-867-5309"
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 30, 2009, 10:38:29 AM
After having my accident, I highly recommend that no matter what you do for a sport that you guys look into ROADID. It was highly beneficial to the paramedics and Police on the scene.
I wear mine on both the bicycle and the moto. [thumbsup]
Quote from: angler on October 22, 2009, 02:10:10 PM
In just one week my blood pressure went from way high to fine just by doing 45 minutes of cardio daily with a little yoga II tossed in. I'm hoping my cholesterol will be the same. Having blood drawn again in a month......
Going in for blood work again tomorrow. Good news is that with a few tweeks to the diet and 45 minutes of cardio 5-6 times a week and yoga 2 once a week (except for the 10 days I had the hamthrax) I've lost 12 pounds in a month. Pretty happy with that. Hopefully I can keep losing through the holidays......
Quote from: MrIncredible on November 30, 2009, 11:25:21 AM
I think if I got one, the third number on there would have to be "Jenny-867-5309"
there's no area code for jenny...
Quote from: MrIncredible on November 30, 2009, 03:48:31 PM
Stop dialing, you idiot ;D
But, the operator[recording] said" "the number you have dialed, is incomplete, you need an area code to complete the call"... Plus, I'm calling long distance..... ;D [bang] or 2 much [drink]
For anyone interested, Team Radio Shack and Lance Armstrong are training through December 14 in Tucson, AZ. [thumbsup]
http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=11638024 (http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=11638024)
Self-esteem FAIL:
Had my body fat analysis done today as part of the new gym's complimentary introduction package:
How can a quarter of me be fat? seriously. a QUARTER OF MY ENTIRE BODY. and I know it can't all be the boobies.
and apparently I'm only supposed to eat 1,800 cal a day when I'm not active. So apparently if I have a single bacon burger, fries and a pint of Guinness, I have reached my daily allowed caloric intake. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIIIIIIIIIVE!?!?!
:'(
Quote from: DesmoLu on December 09, 2009, 11:13:11 AM
Self-esteem FAIL:
Had my body fat analysis done today as part of the new gym's complimentary introduction package:
How can a quarter of me be fat? seriously. a QUARTER OF MY ENTIRE BODY. and I know it can't all be the boobies.
and apparently I'm only supposed to eat 1,800 cal a day when I'm not active. So apparently if I have a single bacon burger, fries and a pint of Guinness, I have reached my daily allowed caloric intake. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIIIIIIIIIVE!?!?!
:'(
I know that's hard, but in that example you need to look at fat intake. If you were to go and get the meal that you described, you're likely at 100+ grams of fat!!! :o
So on top of the useless calories that you may take in during a meal like that, you're also taking in all sorts of greasy heavy, not to mention bad fats. Then you also have to factor in the carbs....
Eating only 1800 calories is a real challenge for most people. Especially when you look at your eating options for low calorie foods. But besides that, 1800 calories is on the bottom end of a low cal diet; your body needs calories to function correctly.
Fore example, at my age and lifestyle, I need to consume nearly 4000 calories per day to maintain my current activity level. Of that, 1720 of those calories are REQUIRED to meet my bodies basic energy needs (those that would be consumed by my body if I did nothing).
Now granted, I'm really active (last night I burned 2000 calories at the gym in just over 2hrs), but unless you're a 24/7 couch potato, which obviously you're not because you were at the gym, your needs should be similar.
Just watch what you eat a bit, up your exercise to 3 days a week, and you'll see results before you know it.
Just stay consistent and tell yourself that the next time you get your body fat index checked that it will be lower!!!
[thumbsup]
Quote from: DesmoLu on December 09, 2009, 11:13:11 AM
Self-esteem FAIL:
Had my body fat analysis done today as part of the new gym's complimentary introduction package:
How can a quarter of me be fat? seriously. a QUARTER OF MY ENTIRE BODY. and I know it can't all be the boobies.
and apparently I'm only supposed to eat 1,800 cal a day when I'm not active. So apparently if I have a single bacon burger, fries and a pint of Guinness, I have reached my daily allowed caloric intake. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIIIIIIIIIVE!?!?!
:'(
actually, thats about right for a 20 something female. now if you were a female triathlete with no boobs you'd have something around 10-15%...... MD is right, you dont have to change much, but if you increase the amount of activity, you dont have to starve yourself. just make your body work for the guinness ;D
Quote from: djrashonal on December 09, 2009, 12:20:29 PM
... just make your body work for the guinness ;D
[cheeky]
Well said.
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 09, 2009, 12:05:24 PM
Eating only 1800 calories is a real challenge for most people. Especially when you look at your eating options for low calorie foods. But besides that, 1800 calories is on the bottom end of a low cal diet; your body needs calories to function correctly.
Fore example, at my age and lifestyle, I need to consume nearly 4000 calories per day to maintain my current activity level. O
GAAAH, you suck with your 4000 cal a day! ;)
alas, when you are a petite midget like me, not so much. I have no idea if my body would ever be capable of burning 4000 cal a day? maybe with steroids and a career in professional swimming?
but yes, the 1800 is at the low end - that is my bmr supposedly so what I get to eat if I do nothing but stay in bed all day (as I have been doing the past week since I've been sick) but most days I get to eat much more. YAY!
I was told the 25% is normal, but I just thought I was in better than average shape and had a lot more muscle than that. I know I eat more than most large men, but I am very careful what I put into my body with mainly home cooked meals and no processed foods and I do work out *really* hard, so it was just a bit of a kick in the ass. I knew it was going to be bad since I've lost a lot of muscle this year due to big crash over summer, going on 3-wk cruise, etc but I was not prepared for such a brutal analysis!
Thanks for the motivation, guys! Guinness is worth working for [drink]
I guess it's time for me to come clean. Your ass *does* look fat in those jeans :) I shall from here on after refer to you only as chubbs :)
I'm gonna miss you, Jesus. :'(
Quote from: Obsessed? on December 10, 2009, 06:46:02 AM
I'm gonna miss you, Jesus. :'(
[laugh] [clap] [laugh] [clap]
It's ok. He called to tell me "I still love you even if a whole quarter of you is fat."
Quote from: El Matador on December 10, 2009, 06:32:27 AM
I guess it's time for me to come clean. Your ass *does* look fat in those jeans :) I shall from here on after refer to you only as chubbs :)
You do that, Mr. I'm not fat, I'm big boned. ;)
Lu, you could try my diet. Oh wait, you're trying to lose, not double in size [cheeky]
Quote from: El Matador on December 10, 2009, 06:32:27 AM
I guess it's time for me to come clean. Your ass *does* look fat in those jeans :) I shall from here on after refer to you only as chubbs :)
Have you considered "spamcakes" or "sweetchunks"?
Lu, I hope that you knew ahead of time that you 'd be opening up a can of worms with your post!!!
Quote from: DesmoLu on December 10, 2009, 06:28:28 AM
I was told the 25% is normal, but I just thought I was in better than average shape
You might be,depending on your boobs (We'll refer to Jesus for that one) plus once your start working out more, you'll regain a lot of that lost muscle very quickly because of.....wait for it....muscule memory!
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 10, 2009, 07:59:47 AM
Have you considered "spamcakes" or "sweetchunks"?
Somehow I knew he should have gone to you for advice on how to creatively and yet affectionately call his girlfriend fat.
Coincidentally, Venezuelans actually ALL refer to their loved ones as "fatty." At first I didn't believe him, then I went to Venezuela and saw it with my own eyes! Crazy communists.
Well it was a very hectic but cool expierence that we had at a book signing with Lance Armstrong this weekend. As you might imagine there were A TON of people that showed up at his book signing, but it was very organized and worked out pretty efficently. We both got a copy of his new book Comeback 2.0 and got them personally signed by Lance.
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/76/l_41b87ce9cacd41c38c78fb302987c269.jpg)
I must admit it was a pretty cool expierence. We had time to read through the book before he signed them so we had a refreshed look at what his comeback year was like which ultimatly enriched the personal expierence of him signing our books. The best part for me though was that Maureen got a great picture of me shaking his hand. For me, Armstrong represents something that motivates me to be a better cyclist, to push myself, to try my very best, and never give up. I know that people either love him or hate him, but I found that meeting him for even a short time, gave me a chance to physically connect with the best of the best - like being a martial arts fan and getting to meet Bruce Lee, or discussing theology with Pascal - it was great!
It was definitly a moment that I won't forget!
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 13, 2009, 05:29:30 PM
or discussing theology with Pascal - it was great!
The computer language? Come on, even I know computers can't talk! ;D
congrats tho, lookin forward to the pic
Pic has been added! [thumbsup]
Awesome!! [thumbsup]
Sounds like your healing/healed up well.
Since last time I posted:
I completed a 10K on Turkey day in 58:43. Not as great as time as I was hoping for, but as long as I ran under an hour I would be satisfied. The course was nice through downtown Wilmington and then a 2.5 mile climb to the highest point in the city, finishing with a 1.5 mile downhill.
My training has slowed considerably. I'm running 3 days a week, and started lifting again last week, to increased my strength.
Training resumes again on Jan. 10 for the half-marathon I'm running in May. I also will be getting back in the pool, and will continue to lift at least twice a week.
My first triathlon of the season is June 6.
That's awesome! Great job and keep up the effort!
I'm all healed up and back training at 100%. Now that things are back to normal, I'm training for two events:
1) Our vacation cruise to Cabo for New Years! (Gotta look great for a cruise right!?!) My goal is to lean down about 10 lbs. I know that doesn't sound like much, but leaning down and loosing weight are two different things depending on overall goals. I adjusted both my diet and my routine which is working well but proving to be....challenging....(I really miss my pasta!!!).
2) The Tour of Palm Springs in February (100 miles).
From what I've read, it attracts nearly the same number of riders as the Tour de Tucson (8000-9000), so it's my big chance to put in some extra training and do better even than I did for the race in Tucson.
Further out we're looking at doing the "America's Most Beautiful Ride" race at Lake Taho in June. Should be an eventful year!
Just got off the bike mounted up on the stationary trainer; first time I've done that in two years. Sucks every bit as much as i remember... :P
Quote from: triangleforge on December 14, 2009, 05:40:43 PM
Sucks every bit as much as i remember... :P
???
Your bike?
The trainer?
The exercise???
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 15, 2009, 07:54:22 AM
???
Your bike?
The trainer?
The exercise???
The sitting there on a bicycle not going anywhere. Putting it near the TV helps, but I've never found anything that makes trainer/roller workouts entertaining. Putting a bike race DVD on and pretending I'm in the race (sprinting when they sprint, turning up the resistance when they climb, etc.) can be a bit diverting, but I'm in more of a base-training mode right now so just trying to get some long, slow distance in my legs. Besides, since they show only highlights on those (ie., the really, really hard parts!) it's not really much of a structured workout -- just a whole bunch of intensity without recovery.
And I'm being whiney. That's the main thing that sucks.
Quote from: triangleforge on December 15, 2009, 08:14:24 AM
The sitting there on a bicycle not going anywhere. Putting it near the TV helps, but I've never found anything that makes trainer/roller workouts entertaining. Putting a bike race DVD on and pretending I'm in the race (sprinting when they sprint, turning up the resistance when they climb, etc.) can be a bit diverting, but I'm in more of a base-training mode right now so just trying to get some long, slow distance in my legs. Besides, since they show only highlights on those (ie., the really, really hard parts!) it's not really much of a structured workout -- just a whole bunch of intensity without recovery.
And I'm being whiney. That's the main thing that sucks.
[laugh] At least you know why it sucks for you and aren't afraid to admit it!!!
I'm really a visual person, so when I train on a stationary bike I can pretty easily envision the road as I ride. I also listen to music via headset/mp3 player, so I'm cut off from sounds and distractions outside of my focus zone.
I admit, there's substitute for being outside, but you do what you have to do to train when weather doesn't make training feasible.
Well the GI just confirmed that I have fatty liver (NAFLD) from too many years of eating fast food and sitting on my ass. 215lb and 6'-1", so not too seriously overweight, but will target about 30lbs to shed in the next three-ish months. I used to ride bicycles fairly heavy 15 years ago and still have the old Schwinn Supersport and Klein Pulse Comp sitting around. Time to dust them off and start pedaling.
Here's the one thing that I got from the El Tour de Tucson and ironically it was taken not more than 1000 yards before the stray rider caused me to crash at the 91 mile mark out of 109.
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/140/l_f5537e209fe644dd911dff6c20bccf11.jpg)
At least it was taken BEFORE the accident!!! [thumbsup] We actually did a lot of pics and video jourals all morning building up to the start of the race which really made for a very cool video DVD of the event!
OK MD,
Want to make us jealous of your 'beer belly free body"?
I used to ride a mountain bike, and somehow never lost my 'beer belly" and lost like 30 pounds; so much that actually people though I was sick or something. Now I'm averaging 185~195lbs no more no less, if I go under 185lbs, I do look sick.
By the way, how you doing?
Quote from: Darkmonster620 formerly M620D on December 16, 2009, 07:17:34 AM
OK MD,
Want to make us jealous of your 'beer belly free body"?
I used to ride a mountain bike, and somehow never lost my 'beer belly" and lost like 30 pounds; so much that actually people though I was sick or something. Now I'm averaging 185~195lbs no more no less, if I go under 185lbs, I do look sick.
By the way, how you doing?
I'm doing great thanks for asking; all healed up and back training at 110%. I was really pleased to see how (relativly) fast my body healed from the accident. I usually heal pretty quickly but this was the worst that I've ever been injured, so I wasn't sure what to expect. Hopefully, being in shape helped me heal quickly.
So now that I'm back training, I'm aiming to lean down about 10lbs before New Years. I'm spending about 2-2.5 hrs a night 4 nights a week working a split routine at the gym - weights/spinning class/core which is burning between 1700-2500 calories.
It's not like its easy to keep lean and without a belly!!! I swear that I'm not on easy street here with an ultra high metabolism and eating bonbons and Twinkies every day!!! You know everyone stores fat in different places, and getting lean and staying lean is really a daily challenge and lifestyle commitment. I'm really trying to lean down so I'm naturally staying away from high carb foods like pasta - which is sad because I love pasta and I'm really craving it!
I know what you mean though about dropping too much weight. When I get too lean, my face leans down too and it makes me look significantly older. So there is a fine line between too much and too little. Keeping a balance in between the two isn't easy!
It ain't easy stayen sexy man... I cld attest to tht..
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 16, 2009, 06:26:43 AM
Here's the one thing that I got from the El Tour de Tucson and ironically it was taken not more than 1000 yards before the stray rider caused me to crash at the 91 mile mark out of 109.
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/140/l_f5537e209fe644dd911dff6c20bccf11.jpg)
At least it was taken BEFORE the accident!!! [thumbsup] We actually did a lot of pics and video jourals all morning building up to the start of the race which really made for a very cool video DVD of the event!
Dude, you look diesel! Keep it up!
Thanks! [thumbsup]
I've still got a ways to go to reach my end-goal. Sadly though, for a cyclist, I think that I'm a bit thick which is part of the reason why I'm leaning down.
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 16, 2009, 07:33:35 AM
I'm doing great thanks for asking; all healed up and back training at 110%. I was really pleased to see how (relativly) fast my body healed from the accident. I usually heal pretty quickly but this was the worst that I've ever been injured, so I wasn't sure what to expect. Hopefully, being in shape helped me heal quickly.
>>> Good to know, I'm a fast healer too.QuoteSo now that I'm back training, I'm aiming to lean down about 10lbs before New Years. I'm spending about 2-2.5 hrs a night 4 nights a week working a split routine at the gym - weights/spinning class/core which is burning between 1700-2500 calories.
>>>
But for that you must ingest at least double of what you burn to have the energy to burn it....QuoteIt's not like its easy to keep lean and without a belly!!! I swear that I'm not on easy street here with an ultra high metabolism and eating bonbons and Twinkies every day!!! You know everyone stores fat in different places, and getting lean and staying lean is really a daily challenge and lifestyle commitment. I'm really trying to lean down so I'm naturally staying away from high carb foods like pasta - which is sad because I love pasta and I'm really craving it!
>>>
When I started weights and riding mountain bike, back in Quote from: Monster Dave on December 16, 2009, 10:42:23 AM
Thanks! [thumbsup]
I've still got a ways to go to reach my end-goal. Sadly though, for a cyclist, I think that I'm a bit thick which is part of the reason why I'm leaning down some more.
>>> My wife says I have the "superheroe body" wide shoulders closing down at the waist...
Quote from: Darkmonster620 formerly M620D on December 16, 2009, 11:49:05 AM
My wife says I have the "superheroe body" wide shoulders closing down at the waist...
Because of that reason it's been a challenge for me to find clothing fits correctly - especially with dress clothing - i need to have all of my shirts fitted so that they don't end up looking like I'm swimming inside them.
Where can I get a stationary to ride indoors? Any specific brand better then the other?
Quote from: cokey on December 16, 2009, 12:53:09 PM
Where can I get a stationary to ride indoors? Any specific brand better then the other?
If you have a road bike, I'd just suggest getting a trainer for it. That's the best. For indoor stationary bikes, I'm not real sure as I always use the ones at the gym. Dicks Sporting Goods has a pretty good selection though if that's what you're looking for.
Yes a road bike.. want the pregnant one to exercise some more.. plus, its getting cold and I hate riding in the cold..
just so the mass of members don't think this is a 'fittest getting fitter' thread...
MD is an athlete.
Most of us are couch potatoes by comparison.
Get off the couch. Walk a mile.
Soon it will be jog a mile. Then two...etc...
If I can lose 50 pounds anyone can (and not give up the tequila).
my 5K is consistently under 25 minutes now. I hate running. It sucks every step. But it burns calories.
I recently worked to 100 pushups per set and 10 pullups (that pullup number per set is pathetic, but it's better than 2 where I started).
I used to get winded keeping up with G when she walked fast.
If you don't change what you eat just eat less of it (for the guys)....portion control is hard. I used to easily eat a large pizza.
Every girl I know has benefitted from weight training. Every guy I know has benefitted from some cardio work.
Let's not lose momentum over the holidays.
I'm deff gonn buy this.. bell motivator mag indoor bicycle trainer.. found it on amazon for 80$
Quote from: Monster Dave on December 16, 2009, 10:42:23 AM
Thanks! [thumbsup]
I've still got a ways to go to reach my end-goal. Sadly though, for a cyclist, I think that I'm a bit thick which is part of the reason why I'm leaning down.
I've gotten a bit thick over the months as well, any advice on the leanin down part?
Quote from: Statler on December 16, 2009, 03:50:57 PM
just so the mass of members don't think this is a 'fittest getting fitter' thread...
:-X
Quote from: kopfjäger on December 16, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
:-X
yeah ok. But most of us don't burn 6,000 calories in a workout. And that can be intimidating/unmotivating to people on the softer end of the scale. :)
Cycling also tends to burn a shit ton of calories. 600/hr with my out of shape butt putting along on a stationary trainer.
Quote from: cokey on December 16, 2009, 05:19:25 PM
I'm deff gonn buy this.. bell motivator mag indoor bicycle trainer.. found it on amazon for 80$
+1 on the magnetic resistance trainers -- I've used both those & the squirrel-cage wind resistance trainers; those suckers can be LOUD!
The Bell Motivator looks like a good unit, and that's a quite fine price on one. A couple of things you'll want to add to the mix:
- Either get one of the trainer blocks for the front wheel (look at the bottom of the Amazon page for "Customers Also bought..." or just grab a 12"-18" length of 2x4 or other thick scrap wood. You will need something to lift your front wheel about the same amount as the back wheel's up off the ground.
- Set up a fan so that it blows at your face & front while you're training. You're going to sweat a lot, and a fan not only makes the whole thing more comfortable, but I've seen studies that show your caloric usage & training benefit go UP when your body's cooling system is working as efficiently as possible.
- Have lots of water handy.
- Find some way to deal with the boredom -- set the trainer up near the TV, use an MP3 player or a LOUD stereo, play mental games, whatever. My biggest limiter on indoor training isn't physical, it's mental.
+1 as well on what Statler said -- the biggest benefits don't come from heroic efforts, but consistency in the little things like eating less all the time and exercising a bit more all the time. It's my biggest beef with the "Biggest Loser" approach (AM is a huge fan ... and I mean that figuratively, as in, I'm a huge fan of her figure!). I understand that you need the drama and conflict and emotional breakdowns to make for compelling TV, but I think they're turning off as many people as they're inspiring to lose weight with the whole six-hours-a-day in the gym routine. Nuts to that. Walk or bike when you can instead of driving. At a restaurant with your honey, order a single entree you both like and split it. Take lots of little steps that add up.
Quote from: Statler on December 16, 2009, 03:50:57 PM
...just so the mass of members don't think this is a 'fittest getting fitter' thread...
I never meant for my posts to sound like that. So, if anything that I have said to this point did sound like that then I apologize. I know that fitness can be a touchy subject for a variety of people for a variety of reasons and I work really hard to make sure that my posts don't come across in that manner. Sometimes though, I suppose that my excitement to share my news and updates with friends could be misconstrued in such a way.
I post often on this thread to help keep it going and because fitness growth is exciting for me. Sometimes, just seeing action in this thread can be motivating. When I see what others are doing it sparks my drive to do something more myself. It's not uncommon for this thread to go weeks between posts and even if someone only posts up what they did over the weekend, it can really help motivate those who are trying to get into better shape.
Each of us has our own fitness goals, so nothing that I share is meant to be directed at anyone unless they ask me for advice. In that case, I'm happy to share what I have learned from my personal experiences. Everyone is aware on some level that getting in shape takes dedication and commitment. There's no doubt about that. Lets get one thing strait; getting in shape is NOT easy. It takes work, and I work VERY hard every day to reach at my fitness goals.
I could easily sit on the sofa all day, every day, eat Twinkies, and wallow my own pity and self deprecation for not being in better shape. To be completely honest, if that's the way that I chose to lead my life, then there's nothing wrong with that so long as I choose to accept that I am personally responsible for the life that I lead - to each his own - I would never criticize or judge someone for a choice that they make.
Just the same, my efforts to be in better shape, to push myself to be physically better and stronger tomorrow than I am today, should not breed contempt from others unless there is an underlying cause fueled by personal discontent with a lifestyle choice.
Now, I prefer to share my excitement, to encourage others, and reward achievements with commendable comments, and if you look at my posts, you'll see that that is just how I post. I never tell anyone how they should lead thier life, and if you read this thread and find yourself unhappy or unmotivated by ME, then perhaps it would be a good idea to look at your situation and ask yourself why you feel that way and ultimately if Monster Dave is really responsible for your state-of-being.
I offer my positive drive, my support, and my experiences to anyone who asks. Please don't misconstrue my ambition for being anything other than that.
Apologies for the rant, but something about that comment really got under my skin.
Take a deep breath, Dave.
I think Stalter was just picking a little. ;)
Please continue to post your progress, I find it interesting and motivational. [thumbsup]
It also encourages me to aim a little higher than I thought was ever possible.
Sharing my goals and progress with everyone makes me feel like all are rooting for me.
Okay, end of sappiness.
Everyone, just keep moving......
Dave --
I'll let Statler speak for himself, but I know I wasn't busting on you. You're getting started in one of the hardest sports on the planet, and so you should be training harder than anyone you know who's NOT a bike racer (in fact, probably a lot harder & with way more structure than you're already doing) -- I've told folks interested in mass-start bike racing that progressing in the sport is a lot like a ladder... with the first rung about twelve feet off the ground.
On the other hand, for those who want to "get fit," meaning to lose unhealthy weight and to feel more energetic, that's not the kind of training required, though I wouldn't minimize the dedication it takes to make the long term lifestyle changes and the hundreds of daily choices it takes to achieve that. It's hard, alright, but not necessarily epic hard -- like bike racing!
I hope you'll continue to communicate your progress and your enthusiasm. I know there are a number of current and ex bike racers on this forum who can offer you some hard-earned, road-rash covered experience that might help you as well, if you'd like.
And all of us -- let's get moving! Those Christmas cookies aren't going to burn themselves, you know!
Dave, I didn't mean it like that. Keep it up and keep posting. It was just a reminder to everyone reading (not a reminder to you) that there's a lot of middle ground between your level of effort, which is simply awesome, and doing nothing.
If it's just as hard for someone to walk a mike fast in terms of effort as for you to climb a mountain, both should be encourged.
Keep up the cycling posts!
Will do and thank you.
I too rely on this thread for input and motivation.
[thumbsup]
On another note but thread relevant, today is our office Christmas part, there's a lot of food, I'm starv'n, and back here in my office trying to convince myself to exercise restraint when I go to get my lunch!!!!
...quite the challenge when you're hungry!!!!
My only solice is knowing that I've already planned on going to the gym tonight for a great and long workout.
I actually gained 10.3 lbs on turkey day within 2hrs.. I eat a lot.. if your body has engh muscle to burn calories to keep your fat down while just sitting there, your good.. you wouldn't have to work out as hard.. I consume about 4000 calories or more a day.. but I'm only 180-185.. I'm trying to sustain 185-190... everyone is diff.. if you don't have a lot of time on your hands, do 500 jumping Jacks everyday.. takes less then 10 min and burn a lot.. incorporate shadowing boxing into it and your golden.. let's get moving people
Quote from: cokey on December 17, 2009, 10:33:31 AM
I actually gained 10.3 lbs on turkey day within 2hrs..
Are you saying that you actually at 10lbs of food? I can't see how that's possible. That's A LOT of food!
Yes that's what I'm saying.. lol you don't knw me well engh hehe.. broke my record of 7lbs.. I had 5 plates of food.. I was always able to eat a lot..
Quote from: cokey on December 17, 2009, 11:06:49 AM
Yes that's what I'm saying.. lol you don't knw me well engh hehe.. broke my record of 7lbs.. I had 5 plates of food.. I was always able to eat a lot..
Based on the nature of this thread though, I don't think that earns points or bragging rights!!!!
Lol I concur.. but being able to drop the 10lbs in a day does..
Quote from: cokey on December 17, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
Lol I concur.. but being able to drop the 10lbs in a day does..
Dear God. Just glad I wasn't in the same building (or county) for the "dropping" part ;D
MD,
It's me again, I'm keeping fit by working at the shop I work at.
How much do you think a 16"x6" wheel + 245/75R16 10ply mud terrain terrain weigth? Do 8 a day plus all other shores at the shop and you have a 6 day a week workout for 8 hours a day... When I started working I was 205lbs, now 190~185lbs,always between those weigths.., Feel great, sleep like a beat in hybernation and somehow, my body doesn't ask for so much food as to when I'm "static"...
Don't get me wrong, had to sell my Haro MB, but, where I live, the hill is just great exercise, do it twice a day with the dog, going down is 15mins coming up is 35mins, due to the slope...
MD, keep up your excellent job, I'll have your turkey and ham servings...
so the wife and i just purchased the bell motivator trainer.. we got it as a gift to both of us so we went halfsies.. >;] yes i got the block for the front as well.. can't weight to start using it.. with wind chills in the teens here in ny, i hate riding when it's this cold.. bad enough i work out doors and on roof tops.. good thing about my job, i get a lot of walk-ups.. carrying my equipment and taking 2 steps at once helps to stay in shape.. i'm also going to make a pull-up bar for in the house.. i usually would do it in the park down the block..
cokey,
sorry about the temps, here, always an average mild of 90*F...
Its ok, I'm moving to texas next yr.. can't wait..
(http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/funny-dog-pictures-exercise-motivation.jpg)
Quote from: Darkmonster620 formerly M620D on December 17, 2009, 03:15:56 PM
MD,
It's me again, I'm keeping fit by working at the shop I work at.
How much do you think a 16"x6" wheel + 245/75R16 10ply mud terrain terrain weigth? Do 8 a day plus all other shores at the shop and you have a 6 day a week workout for 8 hours a day... When I started working I was 205lbs, now 190~185lbs,always between those weigths.., Feel great, sleep like a beat in hybernation and somehow, my body doesn't ask for so much food as to when I'm "static"...
Don't get me wrong, had to sell my Haro MB, but, where I live, the hill is just great exercise, do it twice a day with the dog, going down is 15mins coming up is 35mins, due to the slope...
MD, keep up your excellent job, I'll have your turkey and ham servings...
That's excellent! Tough work!!!! [thumbsup]
Quote from: triangleforge on December 18, 2009, 07:20:10 AM
(http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/funny-dog-pictures-exercise-motivation.jpg)
[laugh]
So the bike trainer comes in tomorrow.. any idea on a product I cld use to measure distance n speed? I know they have them, but which is better
Quote from: cokey on December 21, 2009, 07:41:06 AM
So the bike trainer comes in tomorrow.. any idea on a product I cld use to measure distance n speed? I know they have them, but which is better
We have (and really like) the computers by CatEye. If you order online from performancebike.com they have one for 19.99, normally 29.99
(http://www.performancebike.com/images/performance/products/medium/40-1544-BLK-FRONT.jpg)
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes//Product_10052_10551_1028636_-1___ (http://www.performancebike.com/bikes//Product_10052_10551_1028636_-1___)
Quote from: cokey on December 21, 2009, 07:41:06 AM
So the bike trainer comes in tomorrow.. any idea on a product I cld use to measure distance n speed? I know they have them, but which is better
Most bike speedo/odometers run off the front wheel, which isn't going to be turning at all when you've got it on the trainer. That said, it shouldn't be that hard to adapt a wireless bike computer pickup to mount at the rear wheel & transmit to the head unit. The computer doesn't care which wheel it's reading, but most of the pickups I'm familiar with are designed to zip-tie to the fork instead of the rear stays. Here's another example of a wireless bike computer, with a whole bunch of other options at the bottom of the page:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018CX4IO/ref=asc_df_B0018CX4IO989638?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B0018CX4IO (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018CX4IO/ref=asc_df_B0018CX4IO989638?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B0018CX4IO)
While speed/distance aren't really great ways to measure a trainer workout, I realize that it can be a powerful motivator -- yesterday you rode "five miles" and so today you are motivated to ride "farther and faster," even though you're not going anywhere.
I generally do trainer workouts by time & perceived effort -- ie., "I'm going to warm up for five minutes, then go hard for two minutes, then recover for four, and repeat the last two until my legs or my patience give out." If you want to get fancy, you could use a heart rate monitor and make sure you're going as hard as you intend when you want to go hard, and not too hard when you're recovering. I used to use an HRM, but the battery died a couple of years ago and I haven't gotten around to shipping it back to Polar for a replacement.
Polar (and I assume other makers, some of whom probably trust you to change your own stupid batteries) makes a couple models of HRM that also integrate with a sensor on the front wheel so that you've got both heart rate data for trainer workouts and then will have speed/distance when the bike gets back out on the road. Or if you want to get REALLY fancy, all the gizmo geeks these days are training with power meters that give you a constant reading of how many Watts you're putting out. They're too expensive (and too depressing) for a cheapskate/weakling like me, though.
Or you could just draw a speedo on a piece of paper that reads "Speed = 0 Distance = 0" and tape it to the handlebar, 'cause that's what happens on a trainer! ;D
lol thanks..
Quote from: triangleforge on December 21, 2009, 08:22:49 AM
Or you could just draw a speedo on a piece of paper that reads "Speed = 0 Distance = 0" and tape it to the handlebar, 'cause that's what happens on a trainer! ;D
[laugh]
http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/MirandaAlAsad.html (http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/MirandaAlAsad.html)
I love this thing... using it thgh,being able to hear the bike more, I deff need a tune up lol.. and a new seat.. thing hurts after a while.. !t day used it for 20 min, then 30, 40 and I did an hour and 1/2 yesterday.. gotta go get my fan from the other house.. best thing about this, I get to be on the comp and play poker while exercising..
Very cool, Cokey -- keep at it!!
Quote from: cokey on December 25, 2009, 08:14:32 AM
I love this thing... using it thgh,being able to hear the bike more, I deff need a tune up lol.. and a new seat.. thing hurts after a while.. !t day used it for 20 min, then 30, 40 and I did an hour and 1/2 yesterday.. gotta go get my fan from the other house.. best thing about this, I get to be on the comp and play poker while exercising..
Glad you're enjoying it - but doesn't playing on other things at the same time hurt your speed a bit? What's your workout cadence? Are you measuring caloric burn by heart rate?
Hey MD,
How're you doing...
Well, hope good, my left shoulder sort of dislocated when a tranny 'decided' to fall to the shop's floor while I was trying to push it into place...Wild job related accident, went to doctor, did his magic thing gave me good pills had long non alcoholic weekend...
Now, start burning the turkey, ham, pork loin, rice and everything else that was ingested, but, cooked by me and wife...
I tried out my trainer for the first time last weekend. It was pretty good, I got a decent (if short workout) in.
I tried watching the free Spinervals DVD that came with the trainer but it was so lame...watching other people sitting on their bikes on trainers at a Mercedes warehouse? What's the fun of that? I thought it would have some scenery so I could pretend I was outside. Next time I'm watching a movie.
I'm just walking the dog...nothing that involves two arms at this time...
I picked up a Used Specialized Langster with a flip flop hub setup for a Single Speed right now.
I have started to ride it to work and I plan on taking it in twice a week or so. 9.7 miles each way.
perfect gear ratio for flat and some rolling hills. The only thing I added are Clipless pedals not pictured.
Oh and I am down to 148 now =) My high was 202 =(
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4253303968_5021a093a7_o.jpg)
Quote from: ROBsS4R on January 06, 2010, 07:23:27 PM
I picked up a Used Specialized Langster with a flip flop hub setup for a Single Speed right now.
I have started to ride it to work and I plan on taking it in twice a week or so. 9.7 miles each way.
perfect gear ratio for flat and some rolling hills. The only thing I added are Clipless pedals not pictured.
Oh and I am down to 148 now =) My high was 202 =(
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4253303968_5021a093a7_o.jpg)
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1537.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1537.0)
Quote from: Darkmonster620 aka M620D on January 06, 2010, 03:26:52 PM
Hey MD,
How're you doing...
Well, hope good, my left shoulder sort of dislocated when a tranny 'decided' to fall to the shop's floor while I was trying to push it into place...Wild job related accident...
Ouch! I'm sorry to hear that you got hurt - that sucks. I can only imagine what that must have felt like. I hope that you heal well.
On the flip side though, I'm doing really great. My diet is showing nice results and I'm pushing myself harder all the time. The only hitch that I ran into was over Christmas we went playing in the snow up in Flagstaff and for the first time in 15 years I put on a pair of skis. Wouldn't you know it that going down the first hill on a curve I biffed it pretty hard and jammed my thumb. That was several weeks now and it's still hurting. I'm pretty sure that I didn't break it, but it's sore down near the bottom thumb joint. As a result I can't put a lot of pressure on the thumb pad of my right hand. It's a pretty common injury from what I've learned for skiers, and it's not really getting in the way of my workouts. So all in all it's just a pain that I can't do things like open a 2 liter bottle of soda with that hand...sort of feel like a monkey!! [cheeky]
We just got back from our New Years vacation. We took a 4 day cruise to Cabo San Lucas and I can't even begin to say how excellent that was. 4 days of no Internet, not cell phones, no land in sight....it was perfect. We laughed a lot, relaxed a lot (though I did run and workout 2 of the 4 days on the ship), and really had a great time. The highlight of our cruise though was our shore excursion in Cabo. We took part in a full Americas Cup race! If you aren't familiar with it, you should check it out - it was awesome! We were in two teams racing 15 million dollar yachts, working the yacht controlling the sails...it was fantastic. We got some great pictures but I need to get them scanned to post. Here's what it looked like though:
(http://www.ceccarelliyachtdesign.com/img/amcup4.jpg)
(http://www.americaone.org/newzealand/images/tnzboat.jpg)
...yes they do really roll that far over!!! I highly recommend it to anyone looking for an active, adrenaline pumping expierence! [thumbsup]
Quote from: somegirl on January 06, 2010, 04:26:33 PM
I tried out my trainer for the first time last weekend. It was pretty good, I got a decent (if short workout) in.
I tried watching the free Spinervals DVD that came with the trainer but it was so lame...watching other people sitting on their bikes on trainers at a Mercedes warehouse? What's the fun of that? I thought it would have some scenery so I could pretend I was outside. Next time I'm watching a movie.
Seems like winter time has moved in full swing and lots of people are using indoor trainers. I thought about it, but prefer the spin classes at my gym for variety. I burn between 1200-2000 calories per night/per class (1-2 hrs), so it makes me feel like my $24.99 membership is really working for me!!! Plus I like to do a weight routine before I spin.
I can totally understand about the generic videos though. We have an erg at home (see image)...
(http://ergsprints.com/images/Erg001.gif)
...and I much prefer to put in a movie and row away (rowing is great exercise but can be a bit monotonous for me). When I spin at the gym I tend to be really visual and try to see myself going down a road, up a hill, or leading a ride. When I combine that with my music I stay pretty focused. Unfortunately that doesn't work for rowing.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on January 06, 2010, 07:23:27 PM
I picked up a Used Specialized Langster with a flip flop hub setup for a Single Speed right now.
I have started to ride it to work and I plan on taking it in twice a week or so. 9.7 miles each way.
perfect gear ratio for flat and some rolling hills. The only thing I added are Clipless pedals not pictured.
Oh and I am down to 148 now =) My high was 202 =(
Excellent! Keep up the good effort and congrats on loosing 54lbs! That's a great accomplishment! [thumbsup]
Quote from: ROBsS4R on January 06, 2010, 07:23:27 PM
Oh and I am down to 148 now =) My high was 202 =(
Great work!!!
I went for a short run Monday night for the first time since, well, the last time I overcame my revulsion of running because I didn't want to suck that badly at that part of cyclocross racing. Probably five-ish years. It felt generally good while I was doing it, but pretty creaky and sore the yesterday morning.
The reason this time around was that Ann-Marie and a number of our friends want to do the "Couch Potato to 5K" program & I really enjoy their company, especially hers. Unfortunately, after a little bit of experimenting, it looks like the foot surgery she had last winter is going to pretty much rule out running of any sort for her, so that means less time on foot and more time on the bike for us. I'm trying not to take the news too hard.
And to be honest, it's only running on the road that drives me nuts -- trail running can be pretty entertaining and we've got some decent trail loops that start just a block from our house.
You know I was thinking of picking up rowing.
The elyptical in the gym is getting really boreing for me.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on January 07, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
You know I was thinking of picking up rowing.
The elyptical in the gym is getting really boreing for me.
Its actually really great exercise for arms, core, back shoulders, legs....from head to toe. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 07, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
Its actually really great exercise for arms, core, back shoulders, legs....from head to toe. [thumbsup]
It's also a million times more satisfying in a real live proper rowing boat.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 07, 2010, 05:33:05 AM
Ouch! I'm sorry to hear that you got hurt - that sucks. I can only imagine what that must have felt like. I hope that you heal well.
Hell yeah it did...
But, we 'superheroes' heal fast....so actually I've been at work since Monday/....this weekend, fork swap...yipppie
Speed doesn't suffer much at all.. I haven't started counting calories or checking heart rate..
Quote from: ROBsS4R on January 06, 2010, 07:23:27 PMOh and I am down to 148 now =) My high was 202 =(
Awesome! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: cokey on January 07, 2010, 01:28:00 PM
Speed doesn't suffer much at all.. I haven't started counting calories or checking heart rate..
I don't bother with those either...it would suck all the fun out of cycling for me. ;)
Quote from: somegirl on January 07, 2010, 06:21:24 PM
I don't bother with those either...it would suck all the fun out of cycling for me. ;)
My two cents for what it's worth:
If you don't have something in place to gauge your output effort, how are you defining your fitness zone and accurately measuring your progress?
It's one thing to get on and go for 20, 30, or 45 minutes, but during that time if you aren't actively tracking your output effort, how will you define physiological progress other than saying "last time I only went 20 minutes and this time I went 30 so I must be doing better".
Really, that's not a precisely accurate assessment since variables like speed, resistance, and time all vary to some degree with each of your workouts.
To try and rope in a more focused assessment, you might try and consider cadence pedal strokes (the number of times one knee comes up) and see how long you can hold a cadence of 80-90 for example. Here's how it works:
1) Set your watch for one minute and count the number of times you turn the pedals over.
2) Make sure you count at the same point in the pedal stroke every time. For example, if you start the count when the right foot is at the bottom of the pedal stroke then continue to count it when it reaches that point for each pedal stroke.
3) Stop counting at the minute mark. This is your cadence.
At the same time select a level of resistance that you feel is challenging but that you are able to can maintain for the same amount of time.
Cadence will vary depending on the level of resistance that you have/gearing. So don't expect to maintain the cadence of a flat road when you are on a climb. This also brings up a good point regarding gearing. To get the most out of your workout, I'd suggest that you really focus on your gearing if you're on a trainer. Finding the right cadence for each gear is really important.
If you're not going to track distance, heart rate, or calories burned, at least give this a try so that you can follow your progress based on some defined components.
[thumbsup]
or.........you could just excersise daily in a way that's fun for you and like that your clothes fit better and you can still drink. [drink]
;)
Well.....I suppose there is always that option....
I don't need to count my steps when running to know I'm in better shape and my pants fit better.
Suck the fun out of it, and I'll stop doing it.
Not everything has to be measured.
I don't need a breathalyzer to know I'm drunk.
Or a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 07, 2010, 09:58:33 AM
It's also a million times more satisfying in a real live proper rowing boat.
If by satisfying you mean getting up at 4 am so you can launch at 5, wearing 2 coats of underarmor to fend of the 32.1 degree water, and then have a midget slave drive you and 7 other poor sods while all the time hoping that the hung over idiot behind you doesn't catch a crab and flip your ass, then yes, it is immensely satisfying.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 08, 2010, 06:20:08 AMIf you don't have something in place to gauge your output effort, how are you defining your fitness zone and accurately measuring your progress?
I normally ride my bicycle outside. Remember the hill profile I posted before? Most of my rides (before getting pregnant) average 100' climbing per mile. I've climbed all the local mountains around here. I can tell how fit I am by how I feel on my normal routes and how long it takes (with natural variations for weather conditions). Maybe you forgot but I gave you advice when you first started cycling as I've been doing it much longer than you.
I'm using the trainer so that I can keep getting some exercise when the weather is bad as I don't want to take unnecessary risks now that I'm pregnant. I have no interest in tracking my "progress".
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 08, 2010, 06:20:08 AMTo try and rope in a more focused assessment, you might try and consider cadence pedal strokes (the number of times one knee comes up) and see how long you can hold a cadence of 80-90 for example. Here's how it works:
1) Set your watch for one minute and count the number of times you turn the pedals over.
2) Make sure you count at the same point in the pedal stroke every time. For example, if you start the count when the right foot is at the bottom of the pedal stroke then continue to count it when it reaches that point for each pedal stroke.
3) Stop counting at the minute mark. This is your cadence.
At the same time select a level of resistance that you feel is challenging but that you are able to can maintain for the same amount of time.
Or I can just get on my bike and ride.
Hmmm, which sounds more fun?
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport028.gif)
you're being an exercise snob, Dave and people are pointing that out. Really? telling me I should be able to have fun doing it your way (unwritten assumption of the right way)?
I'm not hating on your comments, but you're being pretty nasty about anyone's goals other than yours. ("if ALL you want is your pants to fit better....if cycling on a trainer for 20 minutes makes you proud.....if jogging for several miles makes you feel like your getting stronger") what kind of bullshit passive aggressive crap is that?!
Perhaps there's just a chasm between types of people in this thread that can't be crossed easily in discussion. I'll start a different thread so nobody (on either end of the spectrum) has to be discouraged from participating.
Quote from: El Matador on January 08, 2010, 07:47:27 AM
If by satisfying you mean getting up at 4 am so you can launch at 5, wearing 2 coats of underarmor to fend of the 32.1 degree water, and then have a midget slave drive you and 7 other poor sods while all the time hoping that the hung over idiot behind you doesn't catch a crab and flip your ass, then yes, it is immensely satisfying.
Yes, that.
We launched at 4:30 though.
I miss rowing.
I was captain of the novice men's 8+ A crew at AandM. I was supposed to become varsity but I changed schools. I think I read somewhere that you were in crew for 8 semesters?
Quote from: El Matador on January 08, 2010, 10:07:50 AM
I miss rowing.
I was captain of the novice men's 8+ A crew at AandM. I was supposed to become varsity but I changed schools. I think I read somewhere that you were in crew for 8 semesters?
Ten seasons.
Miss the single man boat I had to sell to afford college.
Tennis, of course, about seven hours weekly.
I can still beat my ten year old daughter, but if she gets any better I'm going to hide her raquet. A man's got to retain some sense of dignity. :'(
Oh, I will start tracking distance and speed once I get that bike comp.. other then that, I don't worry about calories n such.. I prob eat about 4000 cal a day.. once in a blue ill just do a fat% test.. lowest I went to was 3% body fat.. I just go balls out most the time untill I physically can't any more... I'm a nut thgh lol..
It's almost bike season here in Colorado. Well, Team in Training season, that is. I imagine we'll start doing group rides in mid-February like last year.
Hopefully I'll be able to get in a few conditioning rides before we start and/or a few spin classes.
Started my half-marathon training program this morning.
A 4 miler in 2o temps. Luckly there was no wind.
Race is in May.
ouch. ... hardcore indeed...
son/godson didn't do 9 homeworks over Christmas break.. so now he's got 900 pushups to do..
Yesterday was a 6 miler...
Not nearly as sore as I thought I would be. [thumbsup]
In the second trimester now, I seem to have a bit more energy (I think). That is, I'm still exhausted but I've been running around doing a lot more so I think that's a good sign. Got back on the bicycle trainer yesterday (still rainy here) and moved a few loads of firewood. [thumbsup]
i've been trying to get the preggo working out but my baby girl is kicken her ass.. well she's allready a lil over 7 months now though so.. but after mikaela is born in april, i'mma have her training hard so she can be ready for the next baby soon after.. lol we getting old and gotta popem out quick..
Awesome work on trying to keep up exercising while pregnant. I know that can't be easy. A friend of mine did all sorts of pregnancy exercises before she delivered her baby and I thought it was really amazing that within a few weeks of delivery she was back down to her pre-pregnancy weight - I think that all that she put on was baby weight.
How's everyone else doing? This thread has slowed down a bit but that's probably due in part to the winter season setting in.
I've always liked to train during the winter season more than heat of the summer - I make the biggest leaps forward during the winter.
Currently I'm working out 3-4 days a week at the gym and doing a combination of weights, spin classes, and putting extra focus/effort on core work. My current favorite core exercise are Dragon Flags like those you see Rocky doing in Rocky IV:
(http://www.sylvesterstallone.com/images/workout/chapter1/rocky4training.jpg)
(I love that movie - it really inspires me to work harder!)
Dragon Flags are really challenging especially to keep your body in the correct position. It's a great isolation exercise but you have to be careful as doing them wrong could cause lower back injury. My reps are low since I've just got back into doing them, no more than 8 per set, but I hope to get those higher over the next month or so. In the past, when I did them regularly the most that I would do was 12 per set.
Keep up the good work everyone - have fun and enjoy the fruits of your labor! [thumbsup]
Hey MD,
which gym do you go to. I was lookin at joinin either the Y or LA Fitness since both are close to my place and both have a pool. Any thoughts? im by cortaro/thornydale
Hey DJ,
I have a membership at LA Fitness and like it well enough. The one on Shannon and Ina would be close to you. It's funny that you mentioned debating between LA Fitness and the Y because a coworker here was doing the exact same thing. In the end the value was more with LA Fitness for the classes and the variety of equipment.
I like the variety of classes and equipment. Sure there are things that I don't like, but you get that anywhere you go. I used to have a membership at Golds years ago and felt the same way.
The location that I mentioned on Ina has nice staff, and a friend of mine and his wife workout there frequently. That's actually where I completed my membership though the location that I workout at is further south (down on 1st) and closer to me. It's been open less than a year so its brand new which is nice too. [thumbsup]
Whatever you do, if you go to LA Fitness don't let them bully you into some ultra expensive startup cost. That's what happened to a coworker of mine. She and her husband went in to sign up at a location on the east side of town and really got the "salesman" approach. That's not the same at all locations, and why I went with the location up on Ina. I think I had to pay 2 months worth of membership in advance (@ 24.99) and am under no contract. If you ask they will often wave the fee to sign up on top of that.
Here's a link for a free pass to try it out if you haven't already:
https://www.lafitness.com/Pages/findclub.aspx?flow=GuestPass (https://www.lafitness.com/Pages/findclub.aspx?flow=GuestPass)
Let me know what you end up deciding. Good luck! [thumbsup]
I have a new training partner....
A Timex Ironman Race Trainer. I have just started to play with it and it waaaay above my head at this point.
It has an ANT data stick that allows me to upload/download my workouts to the watch. Timex has partnered with TrainingPeaks to provide the on-line data/training log and programs.
I have spent the past hour or so just playing around with the digital training log and it is very intestering. I can monitor my nutrition, workouts, and equipment. It will even tell me when my shoes are too old.
I can't wait to start using this for workouts!! [thumbsup]
Quote from: DesmoDiva on January 28, 2010, 07:38:57 AM
It will even tell me when my shoes are too old.
[laugh]
Wow that sounds complex. We have/use/love our IronMan watch and heart monitors that we got last year. They aren't quite as complex, but I think that I'm grateful for that to some degree because it really frustrates me when I think that my watch could be too complicated for me to understand how to use it!!! [cheeky]
Awesome! Let us know how well it works for you! I really like seeing immediate feedback about my workouts too. [thumbsup]
I been lazy/injured/traveling.
Lame.
Time to start again.
I took advantage of today's break in the weather to get in a little 16-mile rolling hill ride. [thumbsup]
Been also doing 4 miles of hilly walks with the dogs almost every day, and various bouts of resistance exercise or moving wood (today was 6 wheelbarrow loads up the steep driveway).
wow! great job! i probably couldnt even do that, and you've got a baby inside you!
Quote from: djrashonal on January 28, 2010, 01:22:07 PM
wow! great job! i probably couldnt even do that, and you've got a baby inside you!
That means she's only doing half the work.
I'm really sore today, I've been doing some new exercises, and some old ones that I haven't done in quite a while, but it's a hurt-so-good sort of soreness!
I set a new personal best last night doing bicep curls - 130lbs 4 reps after having done 2 sets consisting of 2 parts that made up a single set - barbell and dumbbell curls - no rest/pause between the two until the single set was complete.
I also did 3 sets of the gold standard for core strengthening - hanging leg raises - for the first time - those were tough - not really to crank out, but certainly to keep from swinging. Hanging from a pull-up bar engages a whole series a muscles which are left out when on a leg raise bench which supports your weight. See image below for example:
(http://bp0.blogger.com/_cLbr1ziwRS4/R32aG4v-e0I/AAAAAAAAAJM/DqpIm6vuME4/s320/WtHangHipRaise.gif)
A variation on this to increase the challenge is also to not curl the legs in but to bring them up strait until they are parallel with the floor. Even harder is to curl them up and tap the top bar that you're hanging from with your toes. I'm not there yet, but looking forward to being able to do that!
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 28, 2010, 01:34:34 PM
That means she's only doing half the work.
Oh come on! She's carrying a baby - that counts for
added weight to the loads that she's lugging up hill!!!
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 29, 2010, 05:55:58 AM
Oh come on! She's carrying a baby - that counts for added weight to the loads that she's lugging up hill!!!
unless it's a strong baby!
Me and the mrs. went to LA Fitness yesterday and decided to sign up. They're also building a new one close to Cortaro and I-10 so it will be a short bike trip from the house. I'm actually looking forward to getting out of the house and gettin back in better shape! See you all at the bench [thumbsup]
Quote from: djrashonal on January 29, 2010, 07:52:41 AM
Me and the mrs. went to LA Fitness yesterday and decided to sign up. ... See you all at the bench [thumbsup]
Excellent! [thumbsup]
Come on everyone, how's the getting fit going??
Keep the updates coming! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 03, 2010, 05:41:47 AM
Come on everyone, how's the getting fit going??
Keep the updates coming! [thumbsup]
I ate an entire cheescake.
I got "volunteered" for the steering committee of a new mountain bike club. Sitting in meetings so that other people can go ride their bikes -- just watch the pounds melt off!
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 03, 2010, 08:07:45 AM
I ate an entire cheescake.
....so much for helping keep others motivated.
Thanks anyway.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 03, 2010, 09:18:08 AM
....so much for helping keep others motivated.
Thanks anyway.
You asked how it was going. That would be how.
Putting it out there motivates me to change, rather than just being quiet about my slacker self.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 03, 2010, 10:10:55 AM
You asked how it was going. That would be how.
Putting it out there motivates me to change, rather than just being quiet about my slacker self.
OK! Thanks for clarifying! ;)
Change isn't easy, but you can do it and I'm sure you'd get a lot of support here. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 03, 2010, 05:41:47 AM
Come on everyone, how's the getting fit going??
Keep the updates coming! [thumbsup]
The holidays were not kind to DTRAL... when my opponent broke my nose on Dec. 19th, that kinda put the kabosh on training hard for about a month. So I filled the free time with eating fudge. This holiday binge slid seamlessly into prolonged NFL playoff eating. I've been hovering around 190 when I know I need to get my act together and get down around 180 if I'm going to be in fight shape.
On the positive side, my instructors recognized me as my school's most improved kickboxer of 2009. The recognition made me realize that I can accomplish even more if I keep making positive changes, so I'm in the process of sorting out the diet issues. I think I can make enough changes in our shopping and cooking habits to 86 those extra ten pounds in about two to three months.
The first casualty will be Throwback Mountain Dew.
So delicious.
So bad for me.
Precious...
My precious...
Quote from: dropstharockalot on February 03, 2010, 10:30:23 AM
The holidays were not kind to DTRAL... when my opponent broke my nose on Dec. 19th, that kinda put the kabosh on training hard for about a month. So I filled the free time with eating fudge. This holiday binge slid seamlessly into prolonged NFL playoff eating. I've been hovering around 190 when I know I need to get my act together and get down around 180 if I'm going to be in fight shape.
On the positive side, my instructors recognized me as my school's most improved kickboxer of 2009. The recognition made me realize that I can accomplish even more if I keep making positive changes, so I'm in the process of sorting out the diet issues. I think I can make enough changes in our shopping and cooking habits to 86 those extra ten pounds in about two to three months.
The first casualty will be Throwback Mountain Dew.
So delicious.
So bad for me.
Precious...
My precious...
Sorry to hear about your nose - that sucks. But kickboxing...that sounds awesome! I took about 7 years of Shuri Ru Karate and really learned to appreciate how much work, effort, and dedication it takes to be good at a sport like that. Congrats on the "most improved" status! That's excellent! [thumbsup]
We recently stopped at a gas station that had the "Throw Back" soda's and couldn't pass up the nostalgic lables and had to try both Pepsi and Mt. Dew. Once was enough, we could see how 'dangerous' it could be to start drinking those!!!
[cheeky]
Grand total of weight lost is 0.3 lb. BUT I'm feeling a bit better overall and it takes more effort to burn the same ammount of calories. I've been on a weights, trainer, off, trainer, weights, trainer, off routine of 30mins each. It is probably about time to kick up the intensity/duration a bit to try and get the weight to start dropping. End goal is still to get my liver function back in the normal range; weight loss is secondary to that.
So i've joined LA fitness, gone and did some running and some swimming. was out of town this past weekend but was able to get in some core work....have lost 3lbs since i've started......22 more and i'll be back to my fighting weight!
Good luck everyone!
In week 4 of my half marathon training.
Putting in about 20-25 miles a week.
My new toy (HR monitor) is helping. Has helped me realize I should be racing about 15% faster than I currently am. :P
Have a 5K coming up on the 13th. Excited to see how much I can improve my time.
Noticed my clothes are a bit looser.
If I could just motivate myself to get on the pool on my days "off" I think I could be doing a bit better.
I'm going to ride from Atlanta to the Alabama state line and back on my bike soon.
If it weren't so damn cold, rainy, or both.
Other than that, a lot of gym, mtn biking, road bike, running, and the 30 day challenge on EA's little wii exercise type game (which is actually surprising harder than you would expect.)
started swimming again. since sunday been doing at least 30 mins a day. today it was cold, not like freezing but in the 60's. it's an outdoor pool w/ out heating. i swim during lunch so it helps. only problem, old collar bone injury hurts a lil.
also walk/run treadmill at night. pop a movie in and get at least an hour of exercise. that or hulu something.
hike on the weekends. burns the thighs a lil. makes me wish i had a stair climber.
i'll prob have to take up weights soon to change things up.
I'm starting to get back into the swing of things again as well. I had lost/toned about 25 pounds while I was in Afghanistan due to working out all the flipping time, but getting blown up set that back a bit. Now my back seems to be in good enough shape for me to start hitting the gym again. Sucks that it is so hard to stay motivated here...
The Tahoe ride is officially 4 months away.
We had a kick-off celebration for Team in Training this morning.
The first group training ride is next Saturday.
Just got back from 24Hour Fitness for a little workout. Spent some time on the stationary and some free weights.
Current at 195lbs. Would like to get down to 185 by the time I do the century in June.
Despite getting home late, dragged my lazy self out to the gym Friday, rowed for a bit, then a set of weights. Nothing too strenuous, as I'm just trying to knock the rust off.
Wife joined, which is helpful.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 06, 2010, 05:12:47 PM
Despite getting home late, dragged my lazy self out to the gym Friday, rowed for a bit, then a set of weights. Nothing too strenuous, as I'm just trying to knock the rust off.
Wife joined, which is helpful.
[thumbsup]
Today 3 miles of walks with the dogs plus 2 hours of karate for me.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 06, 2010, 05:12:47 PM
Despite getting home late, dragged my lazy self out to the gym Friday, rowed for a bit, then a set of weights. Nothing too strenuous, as I'm just trying to knock the rust off.
Wife joined, which is helpful.
someone has to have the whip on hand....that's the wife...
Worked out again Sunday. More of the same.
I've been sick with a cold so no real workout this weekend but I did get in about 6 miles of walking on Sunday, 4 miles today.
I need to join this thread because it's way cheeper than the gym. [cheeky]
omg I'm so out of shape. I spent the last year kind of loving on my 848 And hardcore job hunting stressing out. Now I feel like the soft underbelly of my cat slightly less furry.
Baby steps:
I started running around the block every morning.
Day 5 I ran up the hill to a park and back. I could breathe again
Day 7 I road about 20 miles in brutal wind on a pretty flat road. WowEow that felt good.
Just got back from the gym. Today was my back and shoulders lifting day followed by a bunch of ab work and a two mile run. Going to be a touch sore tomorrow.
Glad to see that everyone's keeping up the effort over the winter!
After a stressful early week, I'm really looking forward to getting to the gym tonight. Tonights routine includes:
Weights - shoulders, chest, biceps, core, core, core.
2 Spin classes (2.5hrs)
Fortunatly I rememberd to bring some extra chicken with me to work to keep me from getting ravenously hungry.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 09, 2010, 09:41:53 AM
Glad to see that everyone's keeping up the effort over the winter!
After a stressful early week, I'm really looking forward to getting to the gym tonight. Tonights routine includes:
Weights - shoulders, chest, biceps, core, core, core.
2 Spin classes (2.5hrs)
Fortunatly I rememberd to bring some extra chicken with me to work to keep me from getting ravenously hungry.
TWO spinning classes MD? I'm scared to do one....every time i walk past the spinning room towards the locker room my spine tingles with fear!
I have no idea what a spin class is. All I can think of is the phrase "sit and spin" which probably is not the same.
Quote from: djrashonal on February 09, 2010, 09:53:55 AM
TWO spinning classes MD? I'm scared to do one....every time i walk past the spinning room towards the locker room my spine tingles with fear!
LOL, if I wasn't already in cycling shape, it would be too much to do 2 classes back to back. I really like them for maintaining while it's still too cold out for me to enjoy cycling. You should try them though sometime - they're great...that being said it depends on you finding an instructor whose class you like best. Trust me when I say it that they are ALL different.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 09, 2010, 10:30:43 AM
I have no idea what a spin class is....
It's a group class that trains like indoor cycling. There's approximately 30-40 bikes and each class is lead on a mock ride that works endurance, hill climbing, sprints, switch backs, ect... for a 60 minute period of time.
They are great for strength building as well as calorie incineration.
[thumbsup]
Jumped on the bike on Sunday after a 2-year absence due to injury.
I thought it was a good idea to ride 20+ miles...
Yesterday was OWWWWW!!!
today is a bit better.
Can't wait to do my next triathlon. I'm aiming for the Strawberry Fields Olympic Distance Tri in June. Pretty ambitious, I know, but I'm a glutton for punishment. [roll]
My fitness program is going through a difficult adjustment as a result of my move from Alaska to Texas. Last year at this time I was training for a XC skiing Marathon. I've switched to running, but it just isn't fun like skiing was. But I'm sticking with it. Just wish I could glide down the hills, if there were any hills. (pregnant dog, pregnant dog, pregnant dog)
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 09, 2010, 09:41:53 AM
Glad to see that everyone's keeping up the effort over the winter!
After a stressful early week, I'm really looking forward to getting to the gym tonight. Tonights routine includes:
Weights - shoulders, chest, biceps, core, core, core.
2 Spin classes (2.5hrs)
Fortunatly I rememberd to bring some extra chicken with me to work to keep me from getting ravenously hungry.
Jeez... finding an hour a day to workout is tough enough sometimes.
I wish I could dedicate 4 hours a night to it...
It won't be that way forever that's for sure! So I just take the time while I have it and make the most of it! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 09, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
LOL, if I wasn't already in cycling shape, it would be too much to do 2 classes back to back. I really like them for maintaining while it's still too cold out for me to enjoy cycling. You should try them though sometime - they're great...that being said it depends on you finding an instructor whose class you like best. Trust me when I say it that they are ALL different.
It's a group class that trains like indoor cycling. There's approximately 30-40 bikes and each class is lead on a mock ride that works endurance, hill climbing, sprints, switch backs, ect... for a 60 minute period of time.
They are great for strength building as well as calorie incineration.
[thumbsup]
You better buy some cold weather gear for Tahoe, then. It can be quite chilly there at 6AM in June.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 09, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
You better buy some cold weather gear for Tahoe, then. It can be quite chilly there at 6AM in June.
Lots of layers and know how to carry them on the bike. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 09, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
that being said it depends on you finding an instructor whose class you like best. Trust me when I say it that they are ALL different.
any reccomendations for one....i have been seriously trying to coax the mrs into doin one with me, we go to the LA Fitness on Ina, and I dont have an el jobo so i can go anytime
Well, time to take the dog out for a quick run...
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 09, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
You better buy some cold weather gear for Tahoe, then. It can be quite chilly there at 6AM in June.
LOL, we'll the morning of El Tour de Tucson is was in the mid 30s so we have everything we need - I just hate feeling stiff from the cold. I need to get a new set of leg warmers though since mine were ruined during my accident.
Quote from: djrashonal on February 09, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
any reccomendations for one....i have been seriously trying to coax the mrs into doin one with me, we go to the LA Fitness on Ina, and I dont have an el jobo so i can go anytime
I'm not sure since I don't work out there. I don't know if certain instructors teach at multiple locations and if so, which ones and on which days. I'll see if I can find out though from the ones that I like at my location. If they do, then I certainly have some recommendations for you! [thumbsup]
Last night was awesome.
For the first hour, I did my weight routine which consisted of:
Shoulders - dumbbell raises (3 sets @ 20lbs), cross body cable pulls (3 sets @ 20lbs)
Chest - peck deck (3 sets @ 135lbs, 165lbs, 180lbs)
Abs - Hanging leg raises (6 sets @ body weight), incline crunches (2 sets @ body weight), obliques (3 sets @ 90lbs, 100lbs)
Biceps - curls (5 sets alternating barbell to dumbbell, 90lbs, 110lbs, 130lbs)
The 2nd and 3rd were both dedicated to cardio/endurance/strength building in 2 spin classes.
I was beat when I left, but it felt good in a "hurts so good" sort of way. I burned a whopping 3,155 calories. I ate a healthy dinner when I got home but needless to say I woke up at about 1:30am hungry....
Tonight is back, triceps, shoulders, and abs. I may do a spin class but I haven't decided yet (my legs are tired!)
During the first spin class last night, the instructor said that her husband (who was a career Marine) always used to say that "pain was just weakness leaving the body" and I thought that was a pretty cool mental motivational boost to use when I start getting burned. We'll see if that works tonight!! [cheeky]
Just got back from a 4 miler...
Felt pretty good.
Buffalo needs to learn how to make the beast with two backsin' plow. [bang]
Ran north into Kenmore and the streets were just wet.
I am being invited to move up to the next level of training at the Muay Thai school. The biggest change would be the expectation that I stay within 10% of my anticipated fighting weight at all times.
Anticipated fighting weight: 172, tops. Maybe as low as 162.
Ten percent allowance: 16 or 17 lbs
Current weight: 191.
Difference: 6lbs, give or take.
Farewell, bacon. It's been fun.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 10, 2010, 07:39:20 AM
Just got back from a 4 miler...
Felt pretty good.
Buffalo needs to learn how to make the beast with two backsin' plow. [bang]
Ran north into Kenmore and the streets were just wet.
Kudos to you for getting out in the cold nasty weather for the sake of exercise. That's something that I really don't miss from living back in Ohio.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on February 10, 2010, 07:47:17 AM
I am being invited to move up to the next level of training at the Muay Thai school. The biggest change would be the expectation that I stay within 10% of my anticipated fighting weight at all times.
Congrats on the improvement. When ever I think of Muay Thai, I always think of the movie Kickboxer. Although it's a Hollywood drama, it does show how brutal that sport can be.
Are you planning on giving Chuck Norris a run for his martial arts money anytime soon? [popcorn]
[cheeky]
Dragged my tired ass out again last night.
Meh.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 10, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Dragged my tired ass out again last night.
Meh.
Keep it up! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 10, 2010, 08:18:12 AM
.....
Congrats on the improvement. When ever I think of Muay Thai, I always think of the movie Kickboxer. Although it's a Hollywood drama, it does show how brutal that sport can be.
Thanks, and yeah, it can be pretty rough... lots limping home from shins bashing into your quads. And I've yet to do a lot of the stuff that Van Damme made famous... no ropes to stretch my legs, no kicking down a banana tree, no sporting a boner on a european game show.
jean claude van damme erection on tv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WKSjgJsCE#normal)
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 10, 2010, 08:18:12 AM
Are you planning on giving Chuck Norris a run for his martial arts money anytime soon?
Impossible. My beard is exponentially less awesome.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 10, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Dragged my tired ass out again last night.
So did I (drag his tired ass out, that is) [cheeky]
Besides the weights, I got in a short bicycle ride and 4 miles of walks yesterday. It turns out bicycling is much harder when your rain gear gets too tight and seriously constricts your breathing as well as leg movements. :P
Quote from: dropstharockalot on February 10, 2010, 10:57:15 AM
Thanks, and yeah, it can be pretty rough... lots limping home from shins bashing into your quads. And I've yet to do a lot of the stuff that Van Damme made famous... no ropes to stretch my legs, no kicking down a banana tree, no sporting a boner on a european game show.
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_pmwy2UvCQJM/SUMpXTjEVLI/AAAAAAAABIk/prpem_8rSx8/kicking%20tree.jpg)
[laugh]
Oh come on, you're not a 'real' Muay Thai fighter unless you can kick down a banana tree and bounce coconuts off your stomach from a drop 50 feet in the air!!! [cheeky]
For the record though, Blood Sport is one of my favorite movies! [thumbsup] What the hell is the dim mak?? [cheeky]
At random I just had my vitals checked - 122/72 with a resting heart rate of 52. [thumbsup]
Quote from: somegirl on February 10, 2010, 11:08:29 AM
It turns out bicycling is much harder when your rain gear gets too tight and seriously constricts your breathing as well as leg movements. :P
Yeah, that sounds like it wouldn't be comfortable at all!!
Quote from: djrashonal on February 09, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
any reccomendations for one....i have been seriously trying to coax the mrs into doin one with me, we go to the LA Fitness on Ina, and I dont have an el jobo so i can go anytime
Hey DJ,
I asked the instructor who did the spin class at my LA Fitness location yesterday if he teaches up at the one where you workout and he told me that he teaches the 4:15pm class on Thursdays. His classes are really great and usually fun, so if you're looking to try one, you might want to check this one out sometime! [thumbsup]
I got a set of bowflex adjustable dumbbells a few months ago. I've had some time to use them so I thought I'd give a mini review. The bowflex website is here http://www.bowflexselecttech.com/bst_microsite/homepage.jsp (http://www.bowflexselecttech.com/bst_microsite/homepage.jsp)
I've got the 2009 model off ebay. These things really work as described. Weight changes are as simple as turning a dial. A critical component of the setup is the base. I once had a dumbbell jam when I attempted to make a change when it was not fully lowered into the base. It took me about 10 min of trying everything to un-jam it, but now that I understand that I need to fully seat the dumbbell in its base, it has not happened again. A minor negative is the size of the dumbbells. If you work out with a traditional set of dumbbells your used to having lighter weight dumbbells being compact and easy to toss around. With these, a 5 lb dumbbell is just as wide as the 60 lb. The 60 lb bowflex will also be wider than the 60 lb conventional dumbbell due to the 2 dials located on the ends of the bars. I don't find this to be a big deal but trying to find flaws on this system is difficult and width is about the only issue I can come up with. Fit and finish seems excellent. They cannot withstand the kind of abuses that conventional dumbbells can, that cannot double up as a boat anchor. Nor would I advise storing them outside in the weather. The manufacturer also warns against dropping them. That is not to say that they are in anyway wimpy. I love how compact they are. These and a dumbbell bench will allow to get complete workouts while taking up a minimum amount of space. They aren't cheap, <$400, but they are much less than a set of conventional dumbbells.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 11, 2010, 04:51:24 AM
Hey DJ,
I asked the instructor who did the spin class at my LA Fitness location yesterday if he teaches up at the one where you workout and he told me that he teaches the 4:15pm class on Thursdays. His classes are really great and usually fun, so if you're looking to try one, you might want to check this one out sometime! [thumbsup]
Thanks MD! I've never been to a spin class though, could you tell me what i need to do to sign up, what to bring? or maybe, which injury to fake to get out of it halfway through..... ;D
Quote from: djrashonal on February 11, 2010, 07:45:29 AM
Thanks MD! I've never been to a spin class though, could you tell me what i need to do to sign up, what to bring? or maybe, which injury to fake to get out of it halfway through..... ;D
LOL,
Good question and VERY smart of you to have thought to ask. Sorry I didn't think to tell you.
If you go to any class there will be a "sign up" sheet at the FRONT DESK of the gym 30 minutes before the class starts. It's important to get on the list as some classes are really popular (I've seen them do "roll call" because there were more people than bikes). Just ask to be put on it when you get to the gym.
I usually wear a hat, but if you don't, you'll need a towel for the sweat. My ball cap does a good enough job of keeping it out of my eyes.
Wear something comfortable - I usually have jogging pants on (I don't like to wear shorts), sneakers are a must.
BRING WATER - I like to bring a 32oz bottle of Smart Water since it has electrolytes in it.
um....if you get there early, go find the bike that you want right away and leave your bottle of water on it until you're ready to return to the room for the class.
Most importantly, ask the teacher (I think his name is Jason), to help you get setup on the bike and tell him that it's your first time - it really helps them to know that it's your first time so that he can keep an eye on you and help you if you need it. Getting setup right will keep your back and knees from hurting.
I think that's it! Good luck and let us know how it goes! [thumbsup]
thanks man! great advice, I've got some stuff going on this afternoon but i will be taking the plunge next thursday at 4:15! This week has been 3 days at the gym 1 day home calisthenics. been doing a lot of stair climber and swimming, getting ready for my firefighter test on friday. After tomorrow I'm going to crank up the workout. It's helped a lot that I can drag Nina with me....grumbling all the way, but she's better for it in the end!
On a side note I recently purchased a book from the editors of Men's Health called "Cook this NOT that." It takes popular recipes from popular restaurants and "healthy's it up." Me and the Mrs. tend to eat out a lot, and in an effort to eat healthier, save money and eat out less i figured this might help so we're not eating the same boring stuff day after day. The book has some really good recipes and really good food tips in it.
right now its on sale for 11.50 (i bought a couple weeks ago when it was 9.50) Here's the link if anyone is interested in takin a gander!
http://www.amazon.com/Cook-This-Not-That-Survival/dp/160529442X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265912219&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Cook-This-Not-That-Survival/dp/160529442X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265912219&sr=8-1)
Aarash
Quote from: djrashonal on February 11, 2010, 07:45:29 AM
Thanks MD! I've never been to a spin class though, could you tell me what i need to do to sign up, what to bring? or maybe, which injury to fake to get out of it halfway through..... ;D
Most people will wear their cycle shorts and shoes (the bikes are typically set up for SPD cleats) or you can wear you regular gym shoes as they also have toe clips/straps.
Setting up the bike properly is critical.
So....
Tommorow is my first race of the season, a 5K.
I'm already nervous. I'm looking to improve on my last 5K's time by almost 2 minutes.
It would appear that I have been just running previous races and not actually racing. :P
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 11, 2010, 02:50:18 PM
Most people will wear their cycle shorts and shoes (the bikes are typically set up for SPD cleats) or you can wear you regular gym shoes as they also have toe clips/straps.
Setting up the bike properly is critical.
Thanks, I think im gonna stick to regular shoes and some long pants for the first time and go from there!
On a side note, today is my timed Firefighter Physical test called the CPAT, with any luck I'll be getting a job soon :-P and the CPAT is a workout on it's own!
http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/ca20win15097/JAC/CPAT+events+short+compress.wmv/play.asx (http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/ca20win15097/JAC/CPAT+events+short+compress.wmv/play.asx)
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 12, 2010, 05:08:28 AM
So....
Tommorow is my first race of the season, a 5K.
I'm already nervous. I'm looking to improve on my last 5K's time by almost 2 minutes.
It would appear that I have been just running previous races and not actually racing. :P
GOOD LUCK!! [thumbsup]
Quote from: SheMonster on February 12, 2010, 05:19:58 AM
GOOD LUCK!! [thumbsup]
I second that! [thumbsup] [thumbsup] Good luck on the 5k!
Quote from: djrashonal on February 12, 2010, 05:15:02 AM
Thanks, I think im gonna stick to regular shoes and some long pants for the first time and go from there!
On a side note, today is my timed Firefighter Physical test called the CPAT, with any luck I'll be getting a job soon :-P and the CPAT is a workout on it's own!
http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/ca20win15097/JAC/CPAT+events+short+compress.wmv/play.asx (http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/ca20win15097/JAC/CPAT+events+short+compress.wmv/play.asx)
That's what I do - I feel funny wearing shorts unless I'm actually out on the road training/riding - you won't have any problem with it - especially if you're trying to save money and don't want to buy special shoes (for actually cycling however, the shoes are a MUST!)
Good luck to you too on your Fire test today!
Hey Randy,
This past week both Maureen and I joined TNT. We're going to the first team gathering this weekend. [thumbsup]
Thanks you two! I've got no problem doing it....it's just the 70lb weight vest that can be killer on the shoulders!
What is TNT??
Quote from: djrashonal on February 12, 2010, 05:25:12 AM
Thanks you two! I've got no problem doing it....it's just the 70lb weight vest that can be killer on the shoulders!
What is TNT??
Team in Training is an organization which helps raise funds for The Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. In exchange for helping raise awareness and funds for research and treatment, you become part of a supported team (cycling, running, etc...) and participate in fitness events that in turn help raise awareness.
Team in Training (http://www.teamintraining.org/) <-click
Someone in my life was recently diagnosed with Mantle Cell Lymphoma. :'(
I haven't had a chance to customize my fundraising site yet but here it is
Maureen's TNT Fundraising Effort (http://pages.teamintraining.org/dm/ambbr10/mzagel) <-click
and here's David's
David's TNT Fundraising Effort (http://pages.teamintraining.org/dm/ambbr10/dhelmink) <-click
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 12, 2010, 05:20:22 AM
This past week both Maureen and I joined TNT. We're going to the first team gathering this weekend. [thumbsup]
Congrats to both of you! [thumbsup]
Quote from: SheMonster on February 12, 2010, 05:37:06 AM
Team in Training (http://www.teamintraining.org/) <-click
Someone in my life was recently diagnosed with Mantle Cell Lymphoma. :'(
I haven't had a chance to customize my fundraising site yet but here it is
Maureen's TNT Fundraising Effort (http://pages.teamintraining.org/dm/ambbr10/mzagel) <-click
and here's David's
David's TNT Fundraising Effort (http://pages.teamintraining.org/dm/ambbr10/dhelmink) <-click
Wow! Thats awesome! you guys!
UPDATE: Passed my CPAT with 2:44 left, which is awesome time! I felt like my chest was gonna burst! gotta work on the high intensity cardio and get my V O2 max up! Lookin forward to that spin class to get me on my way!
Quote from: djrashonal on February 12, 2010, 09:53:33 AM
Wow! Thats awesome! you guys!
UPDATE: Passed my CPAT with 2:44 left, which is awesome time! I felt like my chest was gonna burst! gotta work on the high intensity cardio and get my V O2 max up! Lookin forward to that spin class to get me on my way!
Hey congrats! That's awesome! The spin classes will certainly help with that. Ever since I started cycling and spining I've been really amazed at the physiological differences that my body has shown - especially the drop in my resting heart rate. It used to be in the low 60s, now it's consistently in the low 50s.
Hope you and the Mrs have a nice dinner to celebrate your triumph! [beer]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 12, 2010, 10:02:14 AM
Hey congrats! That's awesome! The spin classes will certainly help with that. Ever since I started cycling and spining I've been really amazed at the physiological differences that my body has shown - especially the drop in my resting heart rate. It used to be in the low 60s, now it's consistently in the low 50s.
Hope you and the Mrs have a nice dinner to celebrate your triumph! [beer]
Homemade tacos and mexican rice! My interview's on monday and if i get the job, you're all invited for the celebratory beers!!
*Disclaimer: Since this is a get fit thread, the only beer available will be that new budwieser beer with 55 calories, limit one, and it must be purged by the end of the evening because we all know beer is what is holding us back from our fitness goals....that and delicious fried bar food
Quote from: djrashonal on February 12, 2010, 10:06:31 AM
Homemade tacos and mexican rice! My interview's on monday and if i get the job, you're all invited for the celebratory beers!!
*Disclaimer: Since this is a get fit thread, the only beer available will be that new budwieser beer with 55 calories, limit one, and it must be purged by the end of the evening because we all know beer is what is holding us back from our fitness goals....that and delicious fried bar food
[laugh]
MrI and I got in another workout tonight. [thumbsup]
Quote from: somegirl on February 12, 2010, 06:01:34 PM
MrI and I got in another workout tonight. [thumbsup]
True to form, you have *no idea* how that reads to the rest of us sick folk. :-*
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 12, 2010, 06:11:27 PM
True to form, you have *no idea* how that reads to the rest of us sick folk. :-*
Sir, please translate your idea of 'workout tonight'.......
WooHoo!!!
My race went awesome. Actually it felt like crap cause I actually tried harder. :P
I finished in 26:48. My fastest 5K since high school.
#28
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn43/Desmodiva/DMF/Dash4Dome1.jpg)
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 13, 2010, 07:34:58 AM
WooHoo!!!
My race went awesome. Actually if felt like crap cause I actually tried harder. :P
I finished in 26:48. My fastest 5K since high school.
congrats!!! next stop...the 10k!!!
I did one on Turkey day. :P
I have an 8K in early March and a half marathon in May. [thumbsup]
CONGRATS!! [clap]
But, it's snowing in that pic :o ... how did you not freeze to death??? [bow_down] (asks the girl from Arizona)
Quote from: SheMonster on February 13, 2010, 12:22:39 PM
CONGRATS!! [clap]
But, it's snowing in that pic :o ... how did you not freeze to death??? [bow_down] (asks the girl from Arizona)
Icebreaker (http://www.icebreaker.com/site/index.html)
The best stuff on earth!!!
Great job L!
Very cool, DesmoDiva!
SM & MD, how did your ride with TNT go today?
Our 20-miler went well. Mid 30's here, slight breeze, but sunny. [thumbsup]
3 hours of karate for me this morning.
Quote from: somegirl on February 13, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
3 hours of karate for me this morning.
you kicked the shit out of MrI for three straight hours??
;D
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 13, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
Very cool, DesmoDiva!
SM & MD, how did your ride with TNT go today?
Our 20-miler went well. Mid 30's here, slight breeze, but sunny. [thumbsup]
Mid-30's? You need to shop at the place DesmoDiva does! It's in the 70's here, a little chilly for my blood but it will get warmer. :) Our ride was good, they planned a simple 14 mile loop up near Carefree Hwy for the first get together. Everyone on the team is super nice and seem like a great group of people to be on a team with.
Quote from: SheMonster on February 13, 2010, 07:26:17 PM
Mid-30's? You need to shop at the place DesmoDiva does! It's in the 70's here, a little chilly for my blood but it will get warmer. :) Our ride was good, they planned a simple 14 mile loop up near Carefree Hwy for the first get together. Everyone on the team is super nice and seem like a great group of people to be on a team with.
Nah. Long cycle pants, an Under Armor shirt, bike jersey & jacket.
As I mentioned earlier, it will be cold (30s or 40s) in Tahoe when we start in the morning. I think the highs last year were in the low 60s.
Fortunately, we train in crappy weather all season, so we've got the gear. There were a ton of riders last year scrambling to find stuff to keep warm in.
Oh, we have about 6" of snow on the ground this morning, so I'm glad we rode yesterday! ;D
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 14, 2010, 06:21:48 AM
Nah. Long cycle pants, an Under Armor shirt, bike jersey & jacket.
As I mentioned earlier, it will be cold (30s or 40s) in Tahoe when we start in the morning. I think the highs last year were in the low 60s.
Fortunately, we train in crappy weather all season, so we've got the gear. There were a ton of riders last year scrambling to find stuff to keep warm in.
Oh, we have about 6" of snow on the ground this morning, so I'm glad we rode yesterday! ;D
That's just about what I wear in the cold - minus the jacket.
We found a Pearl Izumi store up at the outlets at Anthem this past weekend too. So in another month or so when winter gear is discounted we'll be stocking up! We did like the team, the members all seemed really nice and ready to have everyone succeed.
I love getting out and riding with other cyclists - there just something about that that's exciting!
After we were done riding and had all gone home, I decided to hit the gym and do some weights and spend an hour working on a spin bike. It was a great day and we're looking forward to this coming weekend! [thumbsup]
Worked out this morn.
Slowly building back up.
In addition to weights and a bit of erg this morning, I got in 4 miles of walking and a 16.5 mile bicycle ride, rolling hills and wind, with a backpack full of beer (for MrI) and burritos on the way back. ;D
Quote from: somegirl on February 15, 2010, 05:21:58 PM
In addition to weights and a bit of erg this morning, I got in 4 miles of walking and a 16.5 mile bicycle ride, rolling hills and wind, with a backpack full of beer (for MrI) and burritos on the way back. ;D
You are insane. In a good way [thumbsup]
I just got back from the gym too. About an hour on the stationary, and some weights.
Today was a holiday, so I did F'all. ;)
Anyone use a bowflex?
specifically a Revolution model?
I want to get in shape but it looks to be a lot of work [laugh]
Oh yeah and ROUND is a shape ;D
Went hardcore at the gym last night - 1hr weights 2hrs spin classes - 3,039 calories incinerated.
I sure slept like a baby last night!
Did my arm routine on the weights today followed by a three mile run. Feeling a bit pooped at the moment, but there's beer on the way! ;)
Trudged out to the gym and worked out, despite the ever present threat of mountain lions.
Didn't get a proper workout but did hike half an hour each way uphill and downhill with a heavy backpack from the only all-day public parking in Berkeley to the customer lab. The joys of being off the moto (which has free all-day parking just around the corner from the lab). :P
Prior to changing levels at the Muay Thai school, I'd work out maybe three days a week and spar once a week. This week has been every day, with sparring in every class. I'm exhausted. I've been doing the 100-mile-stare through my monitor since I clocked in, and I have no idea how I'm going to survive the sparring session scheduled for tonight.
Tomorrow is the 20-station cardio medicine ball circuit training workout that I used to dread... I'm now praying it gets here faster because it's non-contact.
I really need a break from people kicking me in the head.
On a positive note, I've lost two pounds. The intensity of the training is much higher, and coupled with the frequency, should help me stay skinny.
Skiied across the lake this morning. 10.1 miles on the gps. That has been a long term goal. Tired but happy.
Just got back from a nice long hike along the central range here in Hawaii. Great views from up there!!
Three hours of tennis this A.M. Five hours of drinkin' this eve. I never seem to gain any ground. [bang] [bang] [bang]
Out on the road bike for about an hour of long slow distance (which by definition is way more than an hour). Turned back and headed home when the snow started to stick on the road (and my glasses) at high elevation and I was soaked through.
Worked out again. Still building up a base before I really start upping the weights. Been adding weight to each exercise each week, and adding one additional exercise each week. Starting off slow is best-it's no good if I hurt myself and can't continue.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 21, 2010, 08:50:14 AM
Worked out again. Still building up a base before I really start upping the weights. Been adding weight to each exercise each week, and adding one additional exercise each week. Starting off slow is best-it's no good if I hurt myself and can't continue.
[thumbsup]
Weights and erg for me this morning. Rainy so maybe I will get on the trainer a bit later.
P
What trainer are you using?
J
I have the Kurt Kinetic Road Machine, it's a fluid trainer. It got great reviews, it's very quiet and smooth with realistic road feel. Only downside is the ugly green color.
Only if you don't like green ;D
Quote from: Got Duc on February 21, 2010, 09:34:10 AM
Only if you don't like green ;D
I love British racing green but this is more like Kawasaki green.
I got it now.
Went to the site and you are right that is SOOOOOOME green. [laugh]
Quote from: Got Duc on February 21, 2010, 09:48:44 AM
I got it now.
Went to the site and you are right that is SOOOOOOME green. [laugh]
Yup, and not quite the best combo with my black and orange bike. [laugh]
Quote from: somegirl on February 21, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Yup, and not quite the best combo with my black and orange bike. [laugh]
have Dave paint it.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 12:57:49 PM
have Dave paint it.
The bicycle would look horrible green, but I'll give it a go. ;D
[laugh] [laugh]
You funny.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 21, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
The bicycle would look horrible green, but I'll give it a go. ;D
you crack me up [laugh]
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 21, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
The bicycle would look horrible green, but I'll give it a go. ;D
Yup...
that's a rocket scientist for you...
Headin to the gym with the mrs, doin some bikin, a little weights and some swimming...we'll see how I feel after and i might sprinkle in a little run ;)
We've been training as usual, and added the TNT training every weekend. That's been a lot of fun.
This weekend though I wavered in my ability to control my sweet tooth and gave in to my one, and otherwise most dangerous weakness:
(http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/Images/Products/prdLarge_112089.jpg)
In AZ these are a variety that's extremely hard to find, and as fate would have it, my favorite ones. So we were out and when I came across 3 bags at a Target, I nabbed them up!
...Needless to say, there are only 2 bags left. Fortunately there are only 8 cookies in a bag....
(http://blogs4brownback.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/cookie-monster.jpg)
...I just can't help myself when it comes to eating them!!!
;D
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 22, 2010, 05:00:23 AM
(http://blogs4brownback.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/cookie-monster.jpg)
I'm in the same boat. I'll monitor my diet all week and then blow it out of the water by scarfing down a whole box of those Nestle Tollhouse soft cookies that Target bakes up fresh... om nom nom nom nom.
Double whammy - our neighborhood must have America's highest per-capita Girl Scout population. We've only got fourteen homes built and there were Girl Scouts in my lawn like a zombie horde all weekend. I think the wife sprung for about twenty-six boxes ("We'll freeze some"... yeah, right....).
I terrified myself by reading the Samoas ingredients and nutritional values. I'd have been better off eating a couple of actual Girl Scouts.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on February 22, 2010, 06:16:01 AM
I think the wife sprung for about twenty-six boxes ("We'll freeze some"... yeah, right....).
I terrified myself by reading the Samoas ingredients and nutritional values. I'd have been better off eating a couple of actual Girl Scouts.
I thought you got one girl scout free for every 25 boxes purchased?
(http://www.scavengeinc.com/images/roma/cookie-girl-costume.jpg)
LOL, that's funny - it's nice to know that there's someone else out there with the same weakness as I have!!
Om nom nom nom is right!!! LOL
DJ, I heard that your free one came by your house today:
(http://greystone-design.com/GJM/My%20Web%20Pages/Oldest%20Girl%20Scout%20Leader.jpg)
[laugh]
ROTFLMAO!!!!
well played sir, well played. I just spoke to yours, it's on its way!
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z120/midnightstarcow/CorkyRomano_2001_img_2.jpg)
Quote from: djrashonal on February 22, 2010, 10:33:41 AM
well played sir, well played. I just spoke to yours, it's on its way!
[laugh]
Thankfully I'll be working late tonight and won't be there!!
day two w/ clips on the mtn bike and i sunny bono'ed it into a tree.
now i'm sore.
oh well... road bike today.
Quote from: wbeck257 on February 24, 2010, 06:07:18 AM
day two w/ clips on the mtn bike and i sunny bono'ed it into a tree.
now i'm sore.
oh well... road bike today.
Thank you for that amazing reference, and im sorry that you're sore, but at least you can still road bike ;D
My training has had a set back....
I've had a nagging pain in my left for a while, finally went and saw an orthopaedic MD.
Diagnosis: Navicular stress fracture or Tarsal tunnel syndrome. :-\
Going in for an MRI later in the week.
Cast or cortizone shots here I come...
No more running....guess I'll finally have to get in the pool and on the bike.
Anybody care to chime in on work out order? That is, do you guys do cardio and weights in that order, weights then cardio or do you alternate days?
I joined a gym last summer and go pretty regularly but I seem to get light headed sometimes if I do cardio first.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 24, 2010, 06:54:06 AM
I've had a nagging pain in my left for a while, finally went and saw an orthopaedic MD.
Nate Jr.
People-if what you're doing is not the good muscly ache but the ow-ow-I-wish-that-would-stop ache, it's your body telling you something. Listen to it.
Take a break from what you're doing, see if you're doing it right and ya know, let yourselves heal. Hurting yourself while working out is counterproductive.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 24, 2010, 09:13:38 AM
People-if what you're doing is not the good muscly ache but the ow-ow-I-wish-that-would-stop ache, it's your body telling you something. Listen to it.
Take a break from what you're doing, see if you're doing it right and ya know, let yourselves heal. Hurting yourself while working out is counterproductive.
Quoting for posterity so I can throw it back in your face when appropriate. :-*
Quote from: somegirl on February 24, 2010, 05:59:24 PM
Quoting for posterity so I can throw it back in your face when appropriate. :-*
Someone please ban her.
I have managed to get in the pool the last coupla days for good workouts...
Not the same as running. :P
As soon as this white shit goes away I'll be back on my roadie.
Ins. nightmare is delaying my MRI. [bang]
ifitness = [thumbsup]
Hey guys,
So, I've been hitting it pretty hard over the last 10 months and am really seeing some great improvements in both strength and endurance. I'm doing weights as well as cycling, and as I'm sure that you've seen, joined up with Team in Training as part of our fight to help raise money in the name of a friend of ours who was recently diagnosed with Mantel Cell Lymphoma. If not the thread is here:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=35228.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=35228.0)
As far as trends go, I'm really a visual person, so I keep track every day of the calories that I burn to help keep me motivated to stay in a certain training zone. Here's a graph of my current burn trend:
(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/120/l_68b8a4cec4f848b9be0f07259f36d1c3.jpg)
This past weekend I rode with TNT and went 50 miles on Saturday. Sunday went to the gym and did my weight routine and hit a spin bike for an hour (since it was raining outside). Where I'm seeing a lot of improvement is in my cycling. I rode at my max with another cyclist for nearly 35 out of the 50 on Saturday at a consistent speed of 27mph. At one point, we topped out at 35 mph and held it for nearly 4 miles! It was amazing. I felt so jazzed when we completed the route. As for seeing strength increases, I notice more now than ever before that I can really rocket up hills and still have plenty of power left to keep the heat on after I've crested the top.
It's been a surprise to me to have gotten so addicted to cycling. I love it, and can't get enough of it.
On the flip side, I'm glad to see that the winter isn't keeping everyone down. I know that it can really suck to train during the harsh cold, but everyone seems to be doing great! Keep up the good work! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
i finally got fed up with my belly getting in the way as i leaned over to tie my shoes.
i joined an actual gym so icould use their cardio machines and since my g/f was already signed up and needs a partner/instructor/trainer. [laugh] [laugh]
she will soon hate me i'm sure. she's lazy and doens't actually want to do anything that requires work. that won't fly as i am quite motivated to reduce the size of my gut and ass.
I started in December. The gym is owned by the local non-profit hospital and staffed with lots of degreed excercise specialists. They do a lot of physical therapy stuff there. The facilities are expensive, but so far I think it's worth it. The staffers made a point that all-out cardio is a great way to lose weight, but it will be a lot of lean muscle lost. The result is the rebound in weight since calories are consumed in the muscle. That was new to me.
I've lost 3 inches off my waist and 16 lbs so far. I'd like to lose about 3 more inches and about 25 more lbs. [terry tate voice] motivate! motivate! [/terry tate voice]
You know, I've come to realize that the science behind how the body works is really valuable knowledge to have. Since I started cycling, I've learned more about my glycemic index than I ever imagined.
That being said, I'm really struggling to drop about 5-10lbs. I workout hard, incinerate calories, train for cycling, and go crazy on weights, but leaning down and dropping these last few lbs is really a challenge. I'm pretty good about regulating my diet, but I slip now and again (note he cookie monster image on the previous page), but still for all that I'm doing I wouldn't think that would make so much of a difference in a negative direction. I'm trying really hard to build up muscle, lean down body fat, and maintain enough of a caloric intake to fuel my cycling....
I suppose that there's still lots for me to learn.
changing your workout will help slim down.
instead of biking trying having the majority of your workout be running for a few weeks.
your body will get used to being worked a particular way.
i actualyl stopped losing weight when i would ride. my metoblism would be a bit higher, and i would tone the shit out of my legs, but my overall shape would not really change. i still had the gut, and my ass was still jiggly.
even now being out of shape i can ride for around 30 mi and be ok afterwards. granted i can't push at 20mph anymore, but i'm so used to it i can just keep going for a long time. i just don't have the time to ride 60 mi a day anymore.
Monster Dave, how are you calculating your weight training calories burned??
Quote from: ducducgooseme on March 01, 2010, 10:09:43 AM
Monster Dave, how are you calculating your weight training calories burned??
I have a heart rate monitor that I wear religiously during all of my weight and cardio workouts (really similar to the one below):
(http://www.rei.com/skuimage/716893/220)
(Watch plus chest strap)
I feel like I totally hit a wall last night at the gym. I made it through my weight routine, but was so fatigued that I only got in about 30mins of a spin class. It's really rare that I have to quite a workout because of sheer exhaustion. Today I am just dragging myself through the day until I can leave work.
My legs are soooo tired and feel like rubber. I (very) briefly considered forcing myself to workout tonight, but thought it best to listen to my better judgement and give myself a day of rest. So as soon as this day is done, I'm planting my rear on the sofa and not going to move until tomorrow.
What's everyone else up to?
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 01, 2010, 06:31:55 AM
i finally got fed up with my belly getting in the way as i leaned over to tie my shoes.
I'm on the dickydo diet as well - my belly sticks out more than my dicky do.
I'm on my 3rd day of P90X and it is crushing me, in a good way. My arms and legs are jello and I had the most intense cardio workout I think I've ever had yesterday. Heart rate monitor says I burned 1200 calories and at one point my heart rate got up to 170! I've had a few friends do this workout and they have all lost 20 pounds a month for the first two months and then less than that for the 3rd. I'd like to lose at least 50 pounds.
I'm following the diet as well. It is a relatively high protein/low fat diet. I'm having a hard time eating as many calories as their diet plan wants me to eat though.
Understand the wall feeling from Dave. I'm not athlete, but at the end of each hour to 1.5 hour workout, I'm toast. Like can't get up from the last crunch toast.
Wish me luck......and some discipline.
Sounds like you're off to a great start Angler. Best luck and keep it up! I hope that I feel re-energized tomorrow. I'm just toasted.
Dave, have you tried the Tabata workouts? t-nation.com has a good one with bands. They are a good way to kick start the body again.
I was on month 2 of p90x, and running up to 8 miles. I was in very good shape, and getting a 4 pack when I met this chick that drug me down. So 5 months later, and my gut's back, but I started getting into running again, and I just got some powerblocks (awesome dumbells) to start up p90x again. I'm about 180, 6'1. I'm not concerned about the weight since I'll lose fat and gain muscle weight. I just want to finish p90 and get rid of my gut.
i was thinking of the p90 one. all i know is from the commercials. how intense is it?
i hate ab work with a passion, and dont' really have room to do things like that at home.
Tabata workouts? No, I'll have to check those out! I feel so much better today. I was just exhausted last night.
I decided that I'm going to start doing a mid-day workout at lunch here at work. There's a very low traffic stairwell on the back side of the building that I work in and it runs I think 14 or 18 flights of stairs up to the roof. So I'm going to start working in 3 days a week of stair sprints and push-ups. I may also pick up a jump rope to use in between sets.
Nearly everyone that I talk to about the P90x says that it's great and that most of the popularized trainers today use a method of their own that they copied from the philosophy of P90x - ie working as many muscles in a short period of time as possible to maximize caloric burn effectiveness and muscle impact. Though I'm not doing it, it wouldn't think it a bad investment - especially if you can borrow someones and try it first! [thumbsup]
Injuries blow.
We're doing a lot more chokes and throws in this new series of classes, and the guy I wound up paired with on Tuesday night sailed me halfway across the school. I somehow managed to catch my left foot under my body while crumpling to the floor and rolled it pretty good (or, bad, I guess). I'm still mobile, but the ankle won't support quick changes in direction or pivoting - kinda crucial if I want to kickbox.
So I'm probably looking at about a week of downtime until I can get back up to snuff.
Anyone seen my cigarettes lying around?
All I can say is - ouch!
Sorry to hear that you got hurt. Give it all the time you can to heal before you go back and toss that guy around as payback! [cheeky]
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 04, 2010, 05:04:21 AM
i was thinking of the p90 one. all i know is from the commercials. how intense is it?
i hate ab work with a passion, and dont' really have room to do things like that at home.
Really intense. I really like the fact that it is a full body workout. Also the cardio is real strength oriented and involves making all your muscles work at the same time. There is some ab work (15 minute 3x week). You do need a chin-up bar, enough floor space to lay down for push ups other upper body stuff, and either a set of resistance bands or dumbbells. My chin up bar is outside, so I pause the thing and run outside. If you are tall, you'll need adequate ceiling height. Some of the cardio moves have me touching the ceiling with my head (I'm 6'4" and my ceilings are just over 8'). Also I touch the ceiling during standing should presses.
Quote from: angler on March 04, 2010, 06:18:42 AM
Really intense. I really like the fact that it is a full body workout. Also the cardio is real strength oriented and involves making all your muscles work at the same time. There is some ab work (15 minute 3x week). You do need a chin-up bar, enough floor space to lay down for push ups other upper body stuff, and either a set of resistance bands or dumbbells. My chin up bar is outside, so I pause the thing and run outside. If you are tall, you'll need adequate ceiling height. Some of the cardio moves have me touching the ceiling with my head (I'm 6'4" and my ceilings are just over 8'). Also I touch the ceiling during standing should presses.
i have no chin-up bar or a place to put it.
if i stand up and rach over my head my palm can go flat against the ceiling. i don't think i will be able to do this one at home. :-\
it's a shame because i would really like to give it a try and see if i end up ripped like the guys in the ads. lol
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 04, 2010, 06:26:45 AM
i have no chin-up bar or a place to put it.
if i stand up and rach over my head my palm can go flat against the ceiling. i don't think i will be able to do this one at home. :-\
it's a shame because i would really like to give it a try and see if i end up ripped like the guys in the ads. lol
They do have alternates to chin ups using resistance bands. I'm not a fan of resistance bands.......
Quote from: angler on March 04, 2010, 06:55:30 AM
They do have alternates to chin ups using resistance bands. I'm not a fan of resistance bands.......
did i mention that i'm also quite cheap?
i would rather not buy a training course and have to buy equip for it as well. lol
i wonder if old innertubes will work. lol.
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 04, 2010, 07:22:43 AM
did i mention that i'm also quite cheap?
i would rather not buy a training course and have to buy equip for it as well. lol
i wonder if old innertubes will work. lol.
It is easily available from most torrent sites, including all documents, books, 13 DVD`s etc. Downloadable in one file. Just sayin.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 04, 2010, 05:14:31 AM
Tabata workouts? No, I'll have to check those out! I feel so much better today. I was just exhausted last night.
I decided that I'm going to start doing a mid-day workout at lunch here at work. There's a very low traffic stairwell on the back side of the building that I work in and it runs I think 14 or 18 flights of stairs up to the roof. So I'm going to start working in 3 days a week of stair sprints and push-ups. I may also pick up a jump rope to use in between sets.
Nearly everyone that I talk to about the P90x says that it's great and that most of the popularized trainers today use a method of their own that they copied from the philosophy of P90x - ie working as many muscles in a short period of time as possible to maximize caloric burn effectiveness and muscle impact. Though I'm not doing it, it wouldn't think it a bad investment - especially if you can borrow someones and try it first! [thumbsup]
That's how I use to train people before p90 came out, damn I shld have made a video lol..
Weightlifting aerobics I would call it..
I just got back from my lunch workout. I did sprints up the set of stairwell that I mentioned earlier (12 flights) and really worked on hitting every step and getting my knees high with each step burst. What was neat was seeing my heart rate climb higher each time I reached the top. First it was around 160, then 168, then 172, then 176, all the way up to 184! After I completed I think 8 round trips, I went outside (its a beautiful and sunny 64 degrees day) and ran 1/2 mile and did 3 sets of dips, and 3 sets of pushups. Not bad for a quick 33 minute workout and I burned 509 calories. [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: cokey on March 04, 2010, 08:52:54 AM
That's how I use to train people before p90 came out, damn I shld have made a video lol..
Weightlifting aerobics I would call it..
You still can. That's what everyone else is doing!! If you could somehow get Chuck Norris to do it for you, you'd sell a ton! [cheeky]
For tht I do it as his son, everyone says I look like him.. lol, I'm rican but look white -shrugs- has its advantages some times..
[cheeky]
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 04, 2010, 09:00:27 AM
I just got back from my lunch workout. I did sprints up the set of stairwell that I mentioned earlier (12 flights) and really worked on hitting every step and getting my knees high with each step burst. What was neat was seeing my heart rate climb higher each time I reached the top. First it was around 160, then 168, then 172, then 176, all the way up to 184! After I completed I think 8 round trips, I went outside (its a beautiful and sunny 64 degrees day) and ran 1/2 mile and did 3 sets of dips, and 3 sets of pushups. Not bad for a quick 33 minute workout and I burned 509 calories. [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
You still can. That's what everyone else is doing!! If you could somehow get Chuck Norris to do it for you, you'd sell a ton! [cheeky]
We used to do those in the FD with our gear and 75lb hose packs - it hurts the soul so good! While you were running i was having a nice cup of coffee at epic cafe on 4th! We're headin to the gym tonight and im gonna try and get in on that spin class with the instructor you were telllin me about.
and as far as P90x, if anybody wants it i've got on in movie files on my HDD and im pretty sure i have all the diet stuff in pdf as well. Just let me know
Stair training is intense.. I think its better harder then most things.. when training for FD, I would go up n down stairs with a 40lbs weighted vest.. too bad they cancled my class and now I'm too old to get in (ny cutoff is 30).. I gotta start doing those again..
Quote from: cokey on March 04, 2010, 08:52:54 AM
That's how I use to train people before p90 came out, damn I shld have made a video lol..
Weightlifting aerobics I would call it..
Coming up with a name & a marketing plan that convinces people your program is NEW! and also IMPROVED! is the trick.
And if it inspires people to be more active & get fit in ways that don't hurt them, I don't mind a bit if someone makes some good money by repackaging some basic ideas of exercise physiology.
i've gotten back in the weight room, started back a few months ago.
i should never have left. Its so frustrating to not be putting up the same #'s i was before. i do mostly classical lifts and the squat/deadlift is coming back pretty quick, but pull-ups/chin-ups and the bench press are a bit slow coming it seems.
as a large mammal, big weights has always been a great source of stress relief. Its quite fun to see the bar bend. i set a goal of of a grand for the combined press/squat/pull # and i'm getting closer. i very much like that SMU has an olympic lifting platform, but i hate, with every fiber of my being, the squat-rack curls guy, and that every gym finds it necessary to purchase smith machines. (no big surprise so many people have knee injuries on the field after using this "safe" machine that removes any development of stabilizing muscles and balancing).
Quote from: ato memphis on March 04, 2010, 01:03:45 PM
and that every gym finds it necessary to purchase smith machines. (no big surprise so many people have knee injuries on the field after using this "safe" machine that removes any development of stabilizing muscles and balancing).
They have their place, but I agree that they short-circut a lot of the true benefit of weight training. I think the stabilization issue and increased injury connection is probably valid.
Used as a tool to develop proper form with lighter weights before going unsupported, or as a rehab option for injuries, the Smith can be pretty valuable. Not the worst thing for working w/o a spotter, either.
So, uh...
///Chris Farley voice/// "howmuchyabench?"
Bench:Sets of 5 at 235; Squat: Sets of 5 at 335; Deadlift: Sets of 3 at 365 (without straps, more with straps since my fingers can't get tired prematurely on me). Can only do 5 good pull-ups in a row though, nothing frustrates me more. I weigh 238 with shoes/shorts/shirt on as of Tuesday.
The guy I work out with benches what I squat for reps, so its giving quite a lot of motivation to work harder. The wife is pushing in the other direction, to keep me injury free.
My beef with Smith machines is typically the cost and size - they usually replace a free-squat rack with a Smith machine. It is friendly looking to novice lifters and in Y-terminology "Health Seekers," but you can't do Good-Mornings on it, and you can't do split squats or lunges with it because the bar only goes on its fixed path. The balancing issue isn't my own opinion, its the opinion based on the research of several sports scientists and doctors who wish the damn machine would get recalled. For rehabilitation to injured legs, most pro athletes use leg curl/extension machines, then the leg press, then back to free squat.
When I was a college athlete, only the general student workout facility had a Smith, never saw one in the Finch Center (basketball team's facility) or in the South Campus athletic compound. There could have been one, but it was well hidden. The student rec center had accumulated 3 by the time I graduated and had gone to a single free-squat rack. BOO.
Quote from: ato memphis on March 05, 2010, 04:11:03 AM
Bench:Sets of 5 at 235; Squat: Sets of 5 at 335; Deadlift: Sets of 3 at 365 (without straps, more with straps since my fingers can't get tired prematurely on me). Can only do 5 good pull-ups in a row though, nothing frustrates me more. I weigh 238 with shoes/shorts/shirt on as of Tuesday.
The guy I work out with benches what I squat for reps, so its giving quite a lot of motivation to work harder. The wife is pushing in the other direction, to keep me injury free.
haha, i weigh the same amt, but can come nowhere near benching 235. never have. i think the most i ever put up was around 200.
now legs...i've always had strong defined legs and no upper body to go with it. [laugh]
I've always felt that having a smith machine around was a good idea. I fully agree that there are exercises that can and can not be accommodated on a smith machine, but if you're looking for 1 machine to do every exercise, you (meaning people in general) probably won't find one. That being said, from what I've seen at LA Fitness, they do try to keep a balance of both smith and free weight equipment; in fact at the location where I most often workout, there are 2 squat racks on one wall and 2 smith machines on the other - the way that it should be so that everyone is accommodated.
I really like using the smith machines when I don't have a spot available or don't care to have one. I built up a lot of strength and bypassed possible injury by using a smith machine for upper body. I attest that it's due to the focus on using a smith machine that I was able to bench 425lbs x5 (while weighing in at 155lbs) when I competed in the "Most Athletic Man Competition" a few years back.
Getting that far taught me a few things and one of those was that I didn't need to train anywhere near that heavy to get the results that I was seeking. Now, I weight 165lbs and am benching no more than 315-325lbs.
Since I've become a cyclist, it's also become apparent that I shouldn't get much bigger because having a sizable amount of upper body mass creates wind resistance that I don't really want to fight against. My leg development has been pretty cool over the last year. I have always had strong legs, but of all the body part to focus on, they are my least favorite. Cycling has flipped that on end though - I love the speed of cycling, knowing that the hp being produced is output directly from my efforts. So now I love it when my legs feel like they've been beat on and are like Jello. Doing laps on the stairs is a great exercise and I have to hand it to the fire fighters who do that with weights, gear, and hoses - that must be brutal.
Anyway back to my original point, I like having machines and weights at my disposal that are purpose driven. I like training 'for' something be it rock climbing, cycling, running, etc...so having both is great, but of the two if I had to choose, I'd (personally) prefer a smith machine over a rack.
Quote from: cokey on March 04, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
Stair training is intense.. I think its better harder then most things.. when training for FD, I would go up n down stairs with a 40lbs weighted vest.. too bad they cancled my class and now I'm too old to get in (ny cutoff is 30).. I gotta start doing those again..
FDNY?
Quote from: cokey on March 04, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
Stair training is intense.. I think its better harder then most things.. when training for FD, I would go up n down stairs with a 40lbs weighted vest.. too bad they cancled my class and now I'm too old to get in (ny cutoff is 30).. I gotta start doing those again..
Wow, that sucks! When I went through the academy we had a guy in there that was 53 years old...He made a great firefighter too, a little lazy, but who isnt every now and then [thumbsup]
Hey DJ,
How was the spin class? Did you and the Mrs make it?
Yea, fdny, I passed the exam with a 98, thenwas waiting on the physical.. bam, they cut all the classes.. so now I just turned 30 and won't be able to take the next exam.. sucks balls..
Ah I remember when I was hitten the weights good.. at 155lbs I was benching 255 6 reps, leg pressing a lil over 1000lbs, shoulder shruging over 360.. I never got into dead lifts and squates too much thgh.. so never went heavy, when/if I start the weights again they will be my core exercise thgh..
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 05, 2010, 08:08:29 AM
Hey DJ,
How was the spin class? Did you and the Mrs make it?
she ended up not getting home in time so we left late :-\ , so i just swam for an hour. I think we're gonna try a yoga class they offer and i'll drive seprately next week to be sure i make it on time [thumbsup]
Do you have a light weight vest? that might be cool to integrate that into your stair runs
Quote from: djrashonal on March 05, 2010, 12:21:34 PM
she ended up not getting home in time so we left late :-\ , so i just swam for an hour. I think we're gonna try a yoga class they offer and i'll drive seprately next week to be sure i make it on time [thumbsup]
Do you have a light weight vest? that might be cool to integrate that into your stair runs
Cool! [thumbsup]
I agree that a weight vest would be useful. I'm going to do my routine for 3 weeks and then we'll see if I'm ready to add weight. My legs really feel worked today! It's so nice out though I am going cycling after work just to enjoy the day! Have a great weekend everyone! [beer]
Worked out monday tuesday wednesday and saturday in St. Thomas.
Ate like a pig.
Lost three pounds.
I rock.
With the weather getting better and better all the time I spent a good deal of time this weekend on my road bike. On Friday I rode 20 miles after work, Saturday I rode 50 miles, and today with TNT I rode 35.5. So all in all I packed in just over 100 miles this weekend. I also focused on getting my diet in better position so that I am taking in very low fat, good carbs, and high levels of protein. After burning just under 3000 calories both for today and yesterday, and the 1200 on Friday, you can bet that I was hungry after each ride! I ate a good chicken lunch today and am feeling pretty good now.
Ahhh.......now it's time to just kick back and relax. [beer]
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 07, 2010, 11:01:57 AM
With the weather getting better and better all the time I spent a good deal of time this weekend on my road bike. On Friday I rode 20 miles after work, Saturday I rode 50 miles, and today with TNT I rode 35.5. So all in all I packed in just over 100 miles this weekend. I also focused on getting my diet in better position so that I am taking in very low fat, good carbs, and high levels of protein. After burning just under 3000 calories both for today and yesterday, and the 1200 on Friday, you can bet that I was hungry after each ride! I ate a good chicken lunch today and am feeling pretty good now.
Ahhh.......now it's time to just kick back and relax. [beer]
Nice! you musta gotten out before the rain, huh?
Today's ride was the most challenging with a 20mph head wind for most of the ride. I lead the pace line for the entire run today and it was really great but super challenging. There are days where I really like the wind because it really helps you grow stronger and you really have to "stand tall" and not let it beat you physically and mentally. But just the same, there are days where the wind really irritates the crap out of me! Fortunately, today was a good day for a challenge. [thumbsup]
I finished just before the rain though! Thank goodness!
[beer][thumbsup]
Well, I just got back in after being on-off for the last 4 months...business partner related...Anyways, I got in today and started with a basic total body workout.
Flat Bench: 2 sets at 135@15 reps
2 sets at 225@15 reps
rear flys: cable work
W/ Shoulder lateral raises: 4 sets/15 lbs @15 reps
Deadlifts:
135/20 reps
225/15
315/8
405/1.5
[puke]
Lat pulldowns: 4 sets of 130......beat down!!!!
weight is up at 230, my goal is 200. Should go fast when I start surfing again.
Cool! [thumbsup]
I've heard that surfing is great exercise. Just watch out for JAWS!!!
Haha ya got to watch out for teeth, so far just a bunch of dolphins but they can be scary too. You don't really know how big they are until they breach the water next to you. Its a great workout but the Mid Atlantic waters are cold this time of the year. I hope to get back into the gym today for some more action and some time in on the row machine.
At lunch today I ran the 12 flights of stairs in back office stairwell for 8 laps, did 3 sets of calf raises, 2 sets of lunges, 3 sets of iso-wall sits (focus on quads), 2 sets of push-ups, 2 sets of dips.
I like these quick 30 min workouts - they energize me for the rest of the day!
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 08, 2010, 09:43:26 AM
At lunch today I ran the 12 flights of stairs in back office stairwell for 8 laps, did 3 sets of calf raises, 2 sets of lunges, 3 sets of iso-wall sits (focus on quads), 2 sets of push-ups, 2 sets of dips.
I like these quick 30 min workouts - they energize me for the rest of the day!
Productive!!!!
I used to hit my old gym with 30 min workouts. The front desk people would give me looks, like I wasn't working out long enough but everything I did had no breaks and super-sets (4 sets of 15 each). I would walk out sweating but they still gave me that look.....silly people.
i just woke up and made crepes with homemade whip cream :'( it hurt so good
Quote from: djrashonal on March 08, 2010, 09:50:09 AM
i just woke up and made crepes with homemade whip cream :'( it hurt so good
That means you have to do double the laps in the pool the next time you go to the gym!!!
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 09, 2010, 05:18:07 AM
That means you have to do double the laps in the pool the next time you go to the gym!!!
And thats just what i did. I rowed for about 30 min and burned almost 1000 calories! then ran some intervals on the treadmill and swam till i couldnt move....will repeat today [thumbsup]
Quote from: djrashonal on March 09, 2010, 07:27:07 AM
And thats just what i did. I rowed for about 30 min and burned almost 1000 calories! then ran some intervals on the treadmill and swam till i couldnt move....will repeat today [thumbsup]
Awesome! Keep up the good work! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
I've started tracking everything that I eat on a daily basis and am recording it to see how many calories I net at the end of the day after working out.
Yesterday was the first real day of tracking. I took in a total of 1720 calories, but burned 416 during lunch, and netted 1304 for the day. On top of the tracking, I've also made 8pm my cutoff for eating each day. I'm really trying to lean down quickly but smartly too. This morning I had 6 eggs (2 yokes, 4 whites) scrambled, 1/2 cup of cheese, 1 slice of multi-grain bread w/ honey for breakfast and I ate a pack of carrots for my mid day snack. For lunch I have a can of soup and will ration some crackers to go along with it. I will need to eat a bit more midday today since I'll be lifting at the gym and doing 2 spin classes which should burn out almost 3000 calories.
I know there's a variety of opinions regarding creating a deficit and how big the disparity should be between calories consumed and calories burned, but as long as I feed my body the healthy fuel needed to rock through my routines and not over eat, I should start leaning down rapidly.
So, the itch is hitting me to make a return to sport this summer. Candidates are Rugby 7s, Hurling or Aussie rules.
The quick history - I played Rugby 15s (A Flanker, and what ever our Bs needed) and 7s for a number of years. In May 09 I did my ACL and tore the meniscus of my right knee. I've got all my range of motion back at this point, but there's a significant difference from one thigh to the other. The injured side is coming along, but still down.
So, anyone have any good resources for doing a bit more work, transitioning towards speed and strength for sport, for the legs particularly? Fairly set for upper body strength for any of the sports I listed, but a good strong base is what I need - strong arms don't do a bit of good w/o strong legs under them.
I'll admit, I haven't hit the books yet - as I this itch just really manifested the other day after talking with a buddy - I've been preoccupied trying to find some Mizuno rugby cleats in the US. Which apparently is impossible.
i just always wore a pair of soccer cleats for rugby. Didn't feel like spending the money on anything fancy, and they were already well broken in.
Soccer cleats might be an options for 7s, though I'd probably be better off the the mid style of Rugby boot. Got hit while on foot by a car a while back and it took some bits of my ankle.
Also, in 15s soft toes were not an option a forward... 7s loosing a toe nail to crushing isn't such a concern. But in general, the Mizuno 'Warrior' boots I had years back were my favorite cleats of any I have ever used.
Quote from: yuu on March 09, 2010, 10:28:51 AM
So, the itch is hitting me to make a return to sport this summer. Candidates are Rugby 7s, Hurling or Aussie rules.
The quick history - I played Rugby 15s (A Flanker, and what ever our Bs needed) and 7s for a number of years. In May 09 I did my ACL and tore the meniscus of my right knee. I've got all my range of motion back at this point, but there's a significant difference from one thigh to the other. The injured side is coming along, but still down.
So, anyone have any good resources for doing a bit more work, transitioning towards speed and strength for sport, for the legs particularly? Fairly set for upper body strength for any of the sports I listed, but a good strong base is what I need - strong arms don't do a bit of good w/o strong legs under them.
I'll admit, I haven't hit the books yet - as I this itch just really manifested the other day after talking with a buddy - I've been preoccupied trying to find some Mizuno rugby cleats in the US. Which apparently is impossible.
If it were me and rugby was my sport I would start with interval running that roughly matches the intensity of rugby. Something along the lines of jogging two street lights and sprining one or whatever a good sprint to jog ratio would be. I would do this 3 times a week for about 3-4 weeks and then I would transition one of those days into a pure speed day with 50-100 yard sprints with complete recovery in between. At this point I might also add in a long, slow distance day for increased aerobic capacity. While rugby would be considered a primarily anaerobic sport, there is a component of aerobic fitness needed.
we used to use a track for running drills, sprint straights, jog the curves.
or find another player to run-n-pass drill with, obviously the ball holder must sprint ahead of the other player in order to lateral, then continue (but at a jog) while the other player sprints forward to lateral
Quote from: ato memphis on March 09, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
we used to use a track for running drills, sprint straights, jog the curves.
or find another player to run-n-pass drill with, obviously the ball holder must sprint ahead of the other player in order to lateral, then continue (but at a jog) while the other player sprints forward to lateral
I've seen rugby players do the run and pass drill and it seems like an excellent metabolic/conditioning workout. I'm all for any conditioning work that can incorporate some of the needed skills of the game.
There's an old addage about the only way to get fit for rugby us to play. But in the near term I've still got some recovery work to do from the ACL reconstuction. I was more curious about this stage if things - since that's what hurdle I have right now.
Due to my stocky nature, I've always been asked to join the local rugby club. It does sound interesting but I cannot run, at the moment, to save my life.
swimming is a great way to get the cardio back up, i got no advice for shinsplints though, they just suck real bad.
I'm so freak'n sore today - my calf muscles are so tight today. Two days ago I did calf raises for the first time in a LONG time and then yesterday I did my regular weight routine plus 2 hours of spin classes at the gym since it was raining cats and dogs. When I woke up this morning, I could hardly move!
Dave, are you over training? I blew my body to crap training for a climb a few years ago...3 + hours a day might be too much.
That being said, I rowed a 10k meter and did back and bis today after...so do as I say, not as I do.
Im gonna hurt tomorrow too
Nap time is very important if you are working out that hard. Seriously.
Quote from: yuu on March 09, 2010, 06:21:01 PM
There's an old addage about the only way to get fit for rugby us to play. But in the near term I've still got some recovery work to do from the ACL reconstuction. I was more curious about this stage if things - since that's what hurdle I have right now.
In response to your first sentence, I'm going to say this is true for most sports.
There's a lot of internet training gurus getting rich off unsuspecting athletes coming up with and branding new training ideas (none of which are new) and selling their spiffy repackaging for a premium under the claims they make world class athletes. The truth is, many of these "training systems" steal time, energy and resources from the skill specific training of a given sport. That's not to say that many of these systems don't have value or don't have a place in training for a sport, but many of their proponents are way too quick to put the cart way before the horse.
As for my own training, I recently bought a set of dumbbells used. About 2 months ago I came across an add on Kijiji (like craigs list) for 1430 lbs. of db's for $500, which is a steal of a price. They came in pairs from 25's up to 120's along with a rack. They are commercial gym quality db's and in mint condition.
So, I decided to design an almost dumbbell only workout (I also use some heavy duty rubber bands) and it has really kicked my butt. After 25 years of consistant strength training, I was shocked at how taxing a db only workout can be.
As for conditioning, I decided last year that I would no longer be a hamster ( cardio machine rider in a gym) and decided to do all my conditioning out doors, even through the winter. The benefits to my mental health have far and away been the biggest difference compared to indoor conditioning.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 10, 2010, 08:38:19 AM
Due to my stocky nature, I've always been asked to join the local rugby club. It does sound interesting but I cannot run, at the moment, to save my life.
Never mind actually playing rugby - just partying with those guys was more taxing than most of the conditioning routines I've ever done. If you've got the bail money, I highly recommend making drinking with rugby guys part of your cardio. It's like doing CrossFit in Dante's Inferno.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on March 11, 2010, 05:11:07 AM
Never mind actually playing rugby - just partying with those guys was more taxing than most of the conditioning routines I've ever done. If you've got the bail money, I highly recommend making drinking with rugby guys part of your cardio. It's like doing CrossFit in Dante's Inferno.
Funny you said that, I just watched Dhani Tackles The Globe and he played partied it up with a Rugby club...Said it was crazy!
Got in a 16.5-mile bike ride on rolling hills (half with strong headwinds, the other with a load of food in my backpack) and 4 miles of hilly walks with the dogs today. :)
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 11, 2010, 01:24:43 PM
Funny you said that, I just watched Dhani Tackles The Globe and he played partied it up with a Rugby club...Said it was crazy!
ruggers are nuts...even the women. dating them can be fun though. ;D
i started the spartacus workout sat.
owww. i just can't move quick enough for that time frame. i'm also really weak in the upper body area so i only got 10 pushups [laugh]
however, the squats i could do all day long.
Quote from: ducducgooseme on March 10, 2010, 02:14:30 PM
Dave, are you over training? I blew my body to crap training for a climb a few years ago...3 + hours a day might be too much.
No, I really don't think so. I'm at a pretty fanatical level about my routine (and like it that way) and I'm controlling my diet as much as possible, but as long as I do give my body the recovery time that it needs and taking enough glutamine, I'm usually feeling ready to rock the next day.
Last week was insane though. My calfs hurt nearly all week!!
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 15, 2010, 06:45:03 AM
No, I really don't think so. I'm at a pretty fanatical level about my routine (and like it that way) and I'm controlling my diet as much as possible, but as long as I do give my body the recovery time that it needs and taking enough glutamine, I'm usually feeling ready to rock the next day.
Last week was insane though. My calfs hurt nearly all week!!
FYI, you're currently working out more than my crew did in High School.
We were one of the best teams in the country. Just sayin'.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 15, 2010, 06:57:54 AM
FYI, you're currently working out more than my crew did in High School.
We were one of the best teams in the country. Just sayin'.
...and you were 17 years old.
From experience...and lots of it...
that counts. ;)
My high school regimen was
M (pm) swim 6k yards
T (am) weights/jog + swim 2k yards; (pm) swim 6k yards
W (pm) swim 6k yards
R (am) weights/jog + swim 2k yards); (pm) swim 6k yards
F (pm) swim 7.5k yards
S (am) swim 10k yards
Su - off.
Diet: Eat everything in sight.
When swimming ended and I began rugby, I kept eating everything in sight and did some weights. Just generally tried to bulk up to lay people out. Worked well for the goal, gained 20-25 lbs pretty fast. Wasn't the best quality gain though.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 15, 2010, 06:57:54 AM
FYI, you're currently working out more than my crew did in High School.
We were one of the best teams in the country. Just sayin'.
I take that as a huge compliment - thanks! [thumbsup]
I don't think that I have ever trained so hard and vigorously before. Now that my diet is literally in "check" with everything that I take in, I hope to see some dramatic results over the next 4 weeks. My next cycling race is in 25 days, so if I can lean down and get lighter on the bike, I'll do that much better in the event. It's a 75 mile race and I'd really like to complete it in 3.5 hours. So the next few weeks are absolutely crucial for my training.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 15, 2010, 07:31:52 AM
I take that as a huge compliment - thanks! [thumbsup]
It's not.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 15, 2010, 07:49:44 AM
?? then was that supposed to be an insult?
there is a huge amount of territory between compliment and insult.
Frankly, I'm confused.
I think it was a pretty good reminder that you should be wary of overtraining, especially joints that are injury prone. Like the shoulder (see swimming workout about) among others. Recovery time required increases as testosterone decreases, and such decrease in T occurs naturally with age. (insert favorable opinion about doctor prescribed T for the aging male here). Nothing like a good injury to sideline your progress and leave you in a worse position than before.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 15, 2010, 07:49:44 AM
?? then was that supposed to be an insult?
There are no other alternatives?
I'm agreeing with the earlier poster who suggested you might be overtraining.
Too much of anything is bad.
I just took your comment as a really nice thing to say as you pointed out that I am training really hard, that I'm training harder than you crew did, and that you and your crew were the best - all summed up, you put me at the same level. That's why I took it as a compliment and that's why I said thanks.
Your short "it's not" response really shot down my attempt to show appreciation for what I took as a nice compliment.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 15, 2010, 08:03:15 AM
I just took your comment as a really nice thing to say as you pointed out that I am training really hard, that I'm training harder than you crew did, and that you and your crew were the best - all summed up, you put me at the same level. That's why I took it as a compliment and that's why I said thanks.
Your short "it's not" response really shot down my attempt to show appreciation for what I took as a nice compliment.
Level smevel-we didn't train harder for a
reason. You should look at your regimen and perhaps talk with some personal trainers and make sure you're not doing more harm to yourself than good.
I'd like to remind everyone...
that opinions are like assholes.
We all have one...
and they all stink to the person next to us.
That...
and people really should build up their skin.
Thanks for your time.
haha, they stink to the person next to us... BUT EVERYONE LIKES THEIR OWN BRAND!
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 15, 2010, 08:13:02 AM
You should look at your regimen and perhaps talk with some personal trainers and make sure you're not doing more harm to yourself than good.
I appreciate your concern. Though I have been training long enough to know where my limits are, I agree that it never hurts to check yourself once in a while. In any case, my regimen is sound and the results apparent in both performance and physique attest to that.
I've always felt (in regards to training) that you must push yourself and that your perceived limits are not always limited by what you perceive them to be. For my own training, I am redefining my limits on a daily basis. For example, I would never say that I know that my body is incapable of doing something strength related because I am not strong enough to do it - that's an excuse. I would sooner say that I know that I am capable of reaching a goal if I work hard enough for it. I knew that's a generalization, but it conveys my point - you can reach any goal that you set for yourself.
The road to reach that goal will be hard, often challenging, and will force you to wage a constant battle against yourself and your own psyche; which can be by far the most challenging aspect of any goal setting activity.
Fitness has no end goal, so really it's more like a death march. ;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 15, 2010, 08:41:51 AM
Fitness has no end goal, so really it's more like a death march. ;D
[cheeky]
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 15, 2010, 08:41:51 AM
Fitness has no end goal, so really it's more like a death march. ;D
excersize regularly
eat properly
live clean
die anyways
Oh the irony of it all!!
so my original plan was to do this workout on mon, wed, fri and do some other form of cardio on tue and thurs.
that plan is scrapped.
i'll just stick to the workout and play soccer on sat.
i could barely get out of bed this morn and stairs were an adventure. lol
I would like to get back to where I was in high school (three years ago).
What I am now:
height: 5'6"
weight: 160lbs
bench press: 180lbs
preacher curl: 80lbs
directional row: 180lbs
leg press: 400lbs
What I was in high school:
height: 5'6"?
weight: 180lbs
bench press: 220lbs
preacher curl: 100lbs
directional row: 270lbs
leg press: 450lbs
Full time work and full time school have gotten the better of me. I haven't been able to go to the gym. I also found out that I am the type of person who has to go to the gym either every day or never. I will always make excuses like "I am sore, lets rest today". It's super weak, so I started going everyday again. We'll see what happens.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 15, 2010, 08:30:08 AM
... the results apparent in both performance and physique attest to that.
and I 2nd the attest to that! ;D
Quote from: SheMonster on March 16, 2010, 07:08:36 AM
and I 2nd the attest to that! ;D
Bleh, bleh :P
Quote from: Setsukosan on March 16, 2010, 07:05:26 AM
I would like to get back to where I was in high school (three years ago).
Full time work and full time school have gotten the better of me. I haven't been able to go to the gym. I also found out that I am the type of person who has to go to the gym either every day or never. I will always make excuses like "I am sore, lets rest today". It's super weak, so I started going everyday again. We'll see what happens.
Good luck on your goals. Do you have a buddy you could go with, say 4 days a week? Working out every day + Work + School might not be realistic and could burn you out.. then you're back to 0 days of exercise again. But, if you find a middle ground, and the motivation of not letting a buddy down - might be a more workable long term solution.
Just my thoughts.
Quote from: SheMonster on March 16, 2010, 07:08:36 AM
and I 2nd the attest to that! ;D
and i am guessing that this opinion is the only one that really matters ;)
This thread is too big.. much like my belly.
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 16, 2010, 08:47:26 AM
and i am guessing that this opinion is the only one that really matters ;)
You my friend are correct! ;)
Quote from: Setsukosan on March 16, 2010, 07:05:26 AM
I will always make excuses like "I am sore, lets rest today". .... so I started going everyday again. We'll see what happens.
Sounds like a good plan! Cut yourself off before you have a chance to make a reason not to go!
Quote from: Setsukosan on March 16, 2010, 07:05:26 AM
leg press
Drop this. Not doing squats is holding you back. The leg press is the sissy version of the squat without that pesky stabilization part, core activation, or any of the other really good things. Have somebody show you how to do squats correctly, and stay away from the "cushion" on the bar. It throws the balance off because the bar will be up and away from your shoulders. Also, its not manly to use the cushion. Or womanly (my wife doesn't use said bar cushion either).
Food for thought.
Quote from: ato memphis on March 16, 2010, 01:28:53 PM
Also, its not manly to use the cushion. Or womanly (my wife doesn't use said bar cushion either).
[laugh]
I prefer doing my squats one-legged, with a dumbbell in the opposite hand, so my back doesn't have to support so much weight.
Quote from: somegirl on March 16, 2010, 04:18:37 PM
I prefer doing my squats one-legged, with a dumbbell in the opposite hand, so my back doesn't have to support so much weight.
it's not nice to call Dave a dumbbe.......oh......nevermind.
Quote from: Statler on March 16, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
it's not nice to call Dave a dumbbe.......oh......nevermind.
I've lifted him more than once. 8)
Quote from: somegirl on March 16, 2010, 06:46:34 PM
I've lifted him more than once. 8)
well obviously...but we dont' need the details of it ;)
I don't squat, its terrible for my already bad knees. Years of skateboarding have destroyed my joints. Im lucky I can run everyday.
There's some mythinformation regarding squats and knees, especially if you are running.
Some good information http://drsquat.com/articles/kneed_to_know.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20071203235130/http://drsquat.com/articles/kneed_to_know.html) (archived version)
This is how Smith Machines get sold: Myths about squats being injurious to your health in some form or fashion.
More good information: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_squat_good_exercise_gone_bad (http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_squat_good_exercise_gone_bad)
i have never felt this sore this long after a workout no matter how intense or new to me.
either i'm wicked out of shape (most likely) or i'm getting old and have to accept that i can't recover in as short a time span as i used to (also a very good possibility)
I've found that changing up my routine from time to time leaves me really sore initially for a surprising number of days. It was like when I recently added calf raises to my stair sprints - wow - they were sore for 5 days!!! It just happens.
That was an interesting article, thanks Ato.
The second article sums things up well, when he states: "You do a squat every time you take a shit". There be wisdom in the profanity!
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 17, 2010, 05:23:33 AM
i have never felt this sore this long after a workout no matter how intense or new to me.
either i'm wicked out of shape (most likely) or i'm getting old and have to accept that i can't recover in as short a time span as i used to (also a very good possibility)
My recovery time is definitely not as short as it used to be, and I've heard that attributed to everything from age to lowered vitamin levels to not ingesting enough protein to lower testosterone levels. I've addressed everything but the age and it really hasn't mattered...
I think the real reason is I'm just working harder than I ever have before.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on March 17, 2010, 08:53:14 AM
I think the real reason is I'm just working harder than I ever have before.
And that my friend, is a good reason. [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
One side note, you might try taking Gutamine - as a cyclist I use Cytomax a lot - it dissolves nice, tastes alright, and does seem to keep my muscles from getting sore during endurance exercises.
Down four pounds since I started in earnest again. Took three weeks.
The liveable change is nice.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 07, 2010, 11:09:29 AM
Today's ride was the most challenging with a 20mph head wind for most of the ride.
Been away from this thread for a while, but my bike racing motto (since adapted to my entire life) was
Complain about headwinds, take credit for tailwinds... [laugh]
Quote from: triangleforge on March 17, 2010, 09:28:36 AM
Been away from this thread for a while, but my bike racing motto (since adapted to my entire life) was Complain about headwinds, take credit for tailwinds... [laugh]
[cheeky]
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 17, 2010, 08:58:59 AM
And that my friend, is a good reason. [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
One side note, you might try taking Gutamine - as a cyclist I use Cytomax a lot - it dissolves nice, tastes alright, and does seem to keep my muscles from getting sore during endurance exercises.
I'm probably better off cutting out my three daily fap sessions than spending a bunch on anything at GNC, but if Cytomax lets me do both.... [bacon]
Quote from: somegirl on March 16, 2010, 04:18:37 PM
I prefer doing my squats one-legged, with a dumbbell in the opposite hand, so my back doesn't have to support so much weight.
an excellent alternative to conventional back squats is a goblet squat with a dumbbell held in front of you like you were holding a goblet with two hands. It's probably the easiest way to squat with proper biomechanics and technique quickly.
Yesterday I walked two miles, rode the Monster 52 and kayaked 4 miles - GREAT DAY!!
Been hitting the pool due the foot problems. Still waiting to get MRI [bang]
Walked to work (2mi) today, paying for it now. :P
Quote from: dropstharockalot on March 17, 2010, 10:34:57 AM
I'm probably better off cutting out my three daily fap sessions than spending a bunch on anything at GNC, but if Cytomax lets me do both.... [bacon]
Fortunately Cytomax is relatively cheap ~ $15.99 for a 24oz container.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on March 17, 2010, 10:52:48 AM
Been hitting the pool due the foot problems. Still waiting to get MRI [bang]
Walked to work (2mi) today, paying for it now. :P
It's Mr.I. Anyway-what do you need? I'm right here.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 17, 2010, 11:07:47 AM
It's Mr.I. Anyway-what do you need? I'm right here.
An endless supply of gin and tonics! ;D
Quote from: DesmoDiva on March 17, 2010, 04:59:15 PM
An endless supply of gin and tonics! ;D
Available here (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=35776.0) ;D
on my way!!!
so i got in a game tonight to test my ankle.
it got a D-
however, my legs are no longer sore.
i kind of figured i needed to do something to get myself mobile to get rid of the soreness.
back to the workout tomorrow. play soccer on sat, workout on sun, soccer mon, workout tues, soccer weds, workout thurs, soccer sat...repeat (except for the monday soccer part)
Hit the gym last night for a routine on my shoulders, back, triceps, bicep, and abs.
This morning I got up early and cycled 20 miles to work on rolling hills. It was great weather out - low 60's w/ a light breeze - I love the mornings that start like that!
It was a great ride, I averaged 18.6mph according to my cycling computer and my heart rate monitor reads that I burned 1,184 calories.
The ride home will be about 35-40 miles because I like to take a more challenging route to wrap up my day of riding. Besides, when it's this nice outside who could resist being out and enjoying it! It's not even the first day of spring yet and we're expected to see a high of 81 today!
i'm on vacation for the next 30 days or so.. weathers nice, want to start tgaking the bike back out.. i want to get a new seat as this one sucks balls.. any ideas which ones are good..? after vacas up, if the car is parked on the right side for alternate side parking rules, i'll ride my bike to work..
Quote from: cokey on March 18, 2010, 08:28:25 AM
i'm on vacation for the next 30 days or so.. weathers nice, want to start tgaking the bike back out.. i want to get a new seat as this one sucks balls.. any ideas which ones are good..? after vacas up, if the car is parked on the right side for alternate side parking rules, i'll ride my bike to work..
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No idea about seats, I got lucky with mine and the stock seat is fine. I've ridden 100+ miles on it in one day and felt alright, but after that much distance, I can't imagine that anyone would be much more than 'alright' lol.
Quote from: cokey on March 18, 2010, 08:28:25 AM
i'm on vacation for the next 30 days or so.. weathers nice, want to start tgaking the bike back out.. i want to get a new seat as this one sucks balls.. any ideas which ones are good..? after vacas up, if the car is parked on the right side for alternate side parking rules, i'll ride my bike to work..
i liked the selle italia i had until i fell too many times and broke it.
apparently that saddle wasn't meant for a mtn bike. :-\
Quote from: cokey on March 18, 2010, 08:28:25 AM
i'm on vacation for the next 30 days or so.. weathers nice, want to start tgaking the bike back out.. i want to get a new seat as this one sucks balls.. any ideas which ones are good..? after vacas up, if the car is parked on the right side for alternate side parking rules, i'll ride my bike to work..
Purchasing ball sucking seats is illegal in many states. Nevada has some bike shops where they're sold legally, if I remember right.
Seriously, finding a seat that fits isn't easy, can get expensive very quickly, and unfortunately, what works for me might not work for you -- in fact, my old favorite Selle Italia Turbo not only isn't available any more, but doesn't seem to fit me anymore anyway. These days, I'm fairly happy on a Fizik Arione saddle, but I'm still ISO something better. A better fit for me, that is.
Before you spend money on a new saddle, try tweaking the position a little bit. For me, dead level or tilted slightly nose-high work best, the latter because it tends to shift my weight back onto the rear, which is what should be bearing most of your weight, on the ischial tuberosities, AKA sit bones on your pelvis. It might also be a good investment to have a bike shop do a fitting on your current bike, because what sometimes shows up as saddle discomfort is often really just bad saddle height, bar reach or something else amiss in your position.
If you do need a new saddle, expect to go through several before you find the right match. Ask around for a bike shop that is willing to let you test one out for at least a couple of weeks and return it if it's not working -- shops with that policy aren't the norm, but they're out there, most likely a shop that caters to road racers & folks who buy high-end road bikes.
Some people swear by Brooks saddles and other stretched leather-on-frame saddles -- I've never ridden one, despite my retro-grouch reputation (mainly, I'm just painfully cheap). The theory is that, over a few thousand miles of torture, the saddle eventually conforms to you and you then live happily ever after. As I said, no FHE here.
Worked out again-still keeping it at least to three times a week, though the days are at random.
i have never liked pushups.
mainly because i have never had much in the way of upper body strength.
this is still true. when it came time for them i got maybe 15 the first round, 8 the second, and then barely got another 8 for the 3rd.
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 19, 2010, 04:09:35 AM
i have never liked pushups.
mainly because i have never had much in the way of upper body strength.
this is still true. when it came time for them i got maybe 15 the first round, 8 the second, and then barely got another 8 for the 3rd.
Keep working on it. The strength will come with time and consistency. I'm on the flip side of that opinion though. Because of the way that I'm built, I've always had a lot of upper body strength. If you start doing them say 3 days a week 3-5 sets each, you'll start to see your strength increase pretty quick I think. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 19, 2010, 06:37:48 AM
Keep working on it. The strength will come with time and consistency. I'm on the flip side of that opinion though. Because of the way that I'm built, I've always had a lot of upper body strength. If you start doing them say 3 days a week 3-5 sets each, you'll start to see your strength increase pretty quick I think. [thumbsup]
even when i was working out every day and was teaching classes with pushups as part of the warmup i had trouble doing more than 70 in a day. (5 classes a night with at least 2 diff styles doign 10+ for each one) by the end of the night there were times when i could barely lift my arms.
i am a born bicyclist. no upper body, but massive legs. [laugh]
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 19, 2010, 06:42:26 AM
even when i was working out every day and was teaching classes with pushups as part of the warmup i had trouble doing more than 70 in a day. (5 classes a night with at least 2 diff styles doign 10+ for each one) by the end of the night there were times when i could barely lift my arms.
i am a born bicyclist. no upper body, but massive legs. [laugh]
As a born again cyclist myself, I'm balancing that part out - my legs have become much more defined over the last year. The best part about that is that I really hate doing my legs at the gym, so cycling has abated that problem!
Quote from: KnightofNi on March 19, 2010, 04:09:35 AM
i have never liked pushups.
mainly because i have never had much in the way of upper body strength.
this is still true. when it came time for them i got maybe 15 the first round, 8 the second, and then barely got another 8 for the 3rd.
Push ups are the worst.
I always hated them
i look fwd to the workout, but am angry about the pushups and stuff that imvolves being in that position
This morning in karate, I had an easier time leading the class in pushups than I did standing up afterward. [laugh]
Found a new method (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOArCACRcC4) :P
Ah love pushups and dips.. use to do 360 puhups every day @ one point.. dips with extra weight.. pull ups is where I suffer @.. I'm shooten for the strength to do one arm pullups.. legs, no worries there..
Try doing 2 sets of 10 wide, regular and diamonds twice a week.. shld increase your strength.. do diamonds first..
Well, I've been hitting the mountain bike really hard lately, and have found myself entering a race:
http://www.rambo-mtb.org/blog/index.php?/archives/301-RAMBO-BIG-CREEK-Time-Trials-2010-Saturday,-March-27th.html (http://www.rambo-mtb.org/blog/index.php?/archives/301-RAMBO-BIG-CREEK-Time-Trials-2010-Saturday,-March-27th.html)
I'm way under prepared, and am going to suck; but it is going to be funnnn...
In the end, its the fun tht counts..
Quote from: cokey on March 22, 2010, 11:58:33 AM
Ah love pushups and dips.. use to do 360 puhups every day @ one point.. dips with extra weight.. pull ups is where I suffer @.. I'm shooten for the strength to do one arm pullups.. legs, no worries there..
Try doing 2 sets of 10 wide, regular and diamonds twice a week.. shld increase your strength.. do diamonds first..
FUNK DAT!
what you suggested is basically what i was doing each day while i was teaching. 5 classes a day, 5-6 days a week.
i hate push-ups. pull-ups i cna't do a lot of, but i'm ok with them. dips are the same way only i can do more. i jsut have somethign against push-ups.
Quote from: wbeck257 on March 22, 2010, 03:24:24 PM
Well, I've been hitting the mountain bike really hard lately, and have found myself entering a race:
http://www.rambo-mtb.org/blog/index.php?/archives/301-RAMBO-BIG-CREEK-Time-Trials-2010-Saturday,-March-27th.html (http://www.rambo-mtb.org/blog/index.php?/archives/301-RAMBO-BIG-CREEK-Time-Trials-2010-Saturday,-March-27th.html)
I'm way under prepared, and am going to suck; but it is going to be funnnn...
woot! go for it and let us know how you do!
Caught a bug. Chest feels like it has a belt around it, lost my voice, horking up massive multi-colored unmentionables. Going on day four of no training... hopefully i'm outta the woods tomorrow.
Going back is gonna suck.
275 on the bench today. I'm getting back to form. The wife wants to try the Velocity Diet 3.0 through T-Nation. I tried to tell her its not for the faint of heart. This is day 2, I'm doing it for support. No big deal, I've done it before. While I enjoy eating tasty food, I'm well aware that emotionally based food choices and eating are bad for you. Food is nothing more than gas in the tank. We'll see how she handles this.
Hitting a diet right is really important. I'm on one that really works well for me but it's not too constricting. The main thing for me is that I record EVERYTHING that I eat and log it. Ideally I'm creating a deficit between what I eat and what I burn, and absolutely no food after 8pm. Recording the food that I eat helps me to be aware of what I put in my stomach and also dissuades me from eating too much since I'm seeing my daily caloric totals.
This morning I had 5 eggs (2yokes, 3 whites), 1 serving cut up turkey sausage, 1/4 cup shredded cheese which totaled out at 387 calories. Then I when out cycling for 20 miles ending at work and burned 1,124 calories, then had a replenishment snack of 270 calories, and just a minute ago had 3 servings of saltine crackers (210 calories) to hold me until lunch. As it stands, I'm still -257 calories for the day, plus I'm cycling about 30 miles after work and going to the gym to do my weight routine.
I've been doing this now for 3 weeks and really seeing some amazing results in leaning down. I've only got 17 days until my next race so getting leaner means getting lighter on my bike, which means that I'll be able to go faster! [evil]
Riding to work is the best thing... save money and exercise @ the same time..
Going out sidee in a few minutes with the 13yr old to play a couple hours of handball then off to do dips n pulls ups
Quote from: cokey on March 25, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
Riding to work is the best thing... save money and exercise @ the same time..
Going out sidee in a few minutes with the 13yr old to play a couple hours of handball then off to do dips n pulls ups
Awesome! Have fun!
Down to 202 from 210 which was the first week o' march.
Getting there. Goal of around 185.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 26, 2010, 05:08:23 PM
Down to 202 from 210 which was the first week o' march.
Getting there. Goal of around 185.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Just spent the last hour lubeing my chain and adjusting the brakes and shifter a dozen times.
Race tomorrow. Gettin` nervous.
Ok so I got sidelined from my workouts due to illness but I'm ready to get back. Has anyone done Judo? My local rec center offers the class for free and they compete! I youtube'd some videos and it looks amazingly beautiful when the throws come together. This should help me get back into my wrestling weight. All I have to pay for is the Gi.
Judo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFM-xRKbSec#normal)
I've done Brazillian Ju-Jitsu and it's similar to Judo, but Judo is a lot more throwing oriented. A lot of fun though!
I did Judo for a year, I really liked it. [thumbsup]
Reading some rules, looks like I wont be able to use my single or double leg take downs from wrestling. Any throws that involve grabbing the legs is illegal unless it was used as a counter or secondary action. So no fire-mans carry and the leg take downs :( There goes my edge lol. But i'm still good with my Belly-to-Back suplex's, I'm excited to see how my wrestling will transition, albeit limited to what I can do under new regulations. They also teach ground techniques since chokes and arm bars are part of winning a match....I get my workout and self defense....Nice!
New workout: Climbing the tower with full gear while hauling hose packs. Breathing with an airpack definitely takes some getting used to.
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs465.ash1/25525_1150538903655_1833103560_300501_7589238_n.jpg)
I did that for the entrance exam for the local FD....I was gassed after having to do the whole course...unfortunately they where looking for 15 positions out of 1500 applicants. I may volunteer when my wife figures out where we are getting stationed.
Quote from: JBubble on March 28, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
New workout: Climbing the tower with full gear while hauling hose packs. Breathing with an airpack definitely takes some getting used to.
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs465.ash1/25525_1150538903655_1833103560_300501_7589238_n.jpg)
what size cylinder is that? it looks like a 30 min.....wait till you get your high rise pack and the officers pack, it'll be fun!
Quote from: djrashonal on March 28, 2010, 02:46:41 PM
what size cylinder is that? it looks like a 30 min.....wait till you get your high rise pack and the officers pack, it'll be fun!
Yeah, we (the volunteer probies) were just doing 30 minute bottles today. I didn't have any issue with the 45 minute bottles though. And since we're a tiny rural department, no high rise packs and no officers packs. [thumbsup] Our big thing is nasty auto accidents and inclement weather (along with the tons of medical calls). Definitely looking forward to auto extrication class. ;D
hydraulic tools are awesome! Nothing feels better than being able to rip apart a car! [evil]
these high intensity workouts mixed with cold meds are a fun time.
i have felt like i was going to puke before, but last night i completely lost my legs as i tried to sit down to take a breather. [laugh]
so next time i'll jsut suffer through the coughing and headache without the meds making me loopy too.
I remember a practice where I crawled out of the pool to hurl, because I was plain beat. It was a winter practice so I hobbled out to the outdoor pool deck in the cold and puked. Came back in to see that coach had stopped everybody to point out "He's the only one working hard enough here!"
Confused as to whether to feel proud or embarrassed for hurling.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 27, 2010, 10:28:08 AM
Reading some rules, looks like I wont be able to use my single or double leg take downs from wrestling. Any throws that involve grabbing the legs is illegal unless it was used as a counter or secondary action. So no fire-mans carry and the leg take downs :( There goes my edge lol. But i'm still good with my Belly-to-Back suplex's, I'm excited to see how my wrestling will transition, albeit limited to what I can do under new regulations. They also teach ground techniques since chokes and arm bars are part of winning a match....I get my workout and self defense....Nice!
I've enjoyed the judo I've learned. It's very practical and will feel more like wrestling than you think. There is more of an explosive strength aspect to wrestling, but gaining leverage or getting your opponent off balance should feel very similar. Have fun!
///fun new torture method from this weekend's circuit class:
lay on your back, arms outstretched. Clench a 12-lbs medicine ball betwen your ankles. Do leg raises for a full 3-minute round.
I made it about 40 seconds before I had to drop the ball.
Training is going really well and my strict dieting is really paying off. Our next cycling race is in less than 10 days and I can't wait. It's only 75 miles, but I'm aiming to finish strong. We've been out cycling every weekend and I've been cycling to work and getting in extra miles and time both on the road and at the gym. I've leaned down about 5lbs in the last few weeks while still building solid muscle. I decided since the cost of upgrading bicycle components was just too much in order to go faster that I'd just lean down and effectivly facilitate the same result.
The best part about my diet is that I really feel better - I nearly killed my sweet tooth cold turkey, and have really increased the nutritional value of my meals while still maintaining a selection of food that I enjoy. For example, tonight for dinner I had 7 eggs (3 yokes 4 whites), mixed with a can of mushrooms, 1 serving of turkey sausage chopped and mixed in, and 1/4 cup shredded cheese; a solid low fat dinner with only 546 calories. Also, no eating (what-so-ever) after 8pm means that come morning, I eat a healthy breakfast and my body has had more than enough time to process my dinner effectivly.
So, I had my first judo practice yesterday and got killed! I feel so broken haha.... They threw me straight into the fire, going up against a brown belt most of the session. I got him once, went for a sweep just to set up my single leg into firemans carry, I'll get the Japanese name as I progress, and scored an ippon! But he came back at me with three or four throws that I'm feeling today. I was gassed but I feel so alive, much like my old wrestling days.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 31, 2010, 06:04:47 AM
So, I had my first judo practice yesterday and got killed! I feel so broken haha.... They threw me straight into the fire, going up against a brown belt most of the session. I got him once, went for a sweep just to set up my single leg into firemans carry, I'll get the Japanese name as I progress, and scored an ippon! But he came back at me with three or four throws that I'm feeling today. I was gassed but I feel so alive, much like my old wrestling days.
Hey that's awesome! Keep it going! I remember those days from my own martial arts background. [thumbsup]
I have to say this is just as intense as my wrestling days, go figure my sensei was a college level wrestler! I hold a first dan in shotokan karate and we would spar bare knuckle, face and head shots was legal, so getting out of judo without a bloody nose and puffy eyes is a plus! Instead, the pain is inside haha...
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 31, 2010, 06:38:48 AM
...we would spar bare knuckle, face and head shots was legal...
Yikes - ok now that's brutal!
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 31, 2010, 06:24:48 AM
Hey that's awesome! Keep it going! I remember those days from my own martial arts background. [thumbsup]
Dave's Karate Background [evil]:
(http://cdn.complex.com/assets/images/Entertainment/Features/062008/kfc-karate-kid-420x420.jpg)
[laugh]
Wish my time studying karate was like that! I just got my old sensei's phone number, apparently he immigrated from Sicily to Boston so i'll give him a call today to say thanks for the memories and experiences.
Today, I will rest my body because its HURT! Tomorrow is another day, I hope my conditioning gets better because a minute felt like an eternity!
[laugh]
i will be seeing the new karate kid movie, fyi.
Quote from: a m on March 31, 2010, 03:33:57 PM
i will be seeing the new karate kid movie, fyi.
Have you seeeen the previews?
[bang]
yes. I was skeptical until i could hear in the background...
YOUR THE BEST AHHHH-ROUND, NO ONE'S EVA GONNA BRING YOU DOWN
Seriously? [cheeky]
went wall climbing (bolder it's called) for the first time today with the fam.. man was that a work out.. my hands ache.. we're want to start going more often, it's definitely a great work out..
Quote from: cokey on April 01, 2010, 04:27:08 PM
went wall climbing (boulder it's called) for the first time today with the fam.. man was that a work out.. my hands ache.. we're want to start going more often, it's definitely a great work out..
;D it's a lot of fun though, I used to teach classes. First few times are rough, then your muscles get used to it, and your hands get so strong that you rip potato chip bags open and they explode all over the livingroom!
One word of wisdom I can give you is learn to rely on your legs. They are a huge asset to your climbing stamina, even on short problems. good luck and have fun!
Worked all day, came home, worked out, worked on the shed, worked on the car, cooked, debating sleeping on the desk.
Day 2 of Judo, this martial art is addicting. Its like the gentlemen version of the MMA fanboyisms. I remember in Karate, I would think that I can kick anyones ass in a sparring match, but in Judo, you look at some of those Judokas and you know your just out matched. Now time to rest my aching body....wish the mat was softer!
Quote from: bulldogs2k on April 01, 2010, 07:59:48 PM
Day 2 of Judo, this martial art is addicting. Its like the gentlemen version of the MMA fanboyisms. I remember in Karate, I would think that I can kick anyones ass in a sparring match, but in Judo, you look at some of those Judokas and you know your just out matched. Now time to rest my aching body....wish the mat was softer!
Thats exactly what I didnt like about Karate. Although it was great for form and concentration, it's less applicable in real life situations than Judo, Krav Maga or BJJ. Glad you're liking it. Heal up and enjoy!
Quote from: djrashonal on April 01, 2010, 08:18:31 PM
Thats exactly what I didnt like about Karate. Although it was great for form and concentration, it's less applicable in real life situations than Judo, Krav Maga or BJJ. Glad you're liking it. Heal up and enjoy!
if learned properly you'd be amazed at how useful it is.
i did a mixed system that had a lot of tae kwon do and hapkido in it.
if things do happen i notice that even now (10 yrs after i stopped training) i still move into short stances very quickly and know where to strike to actually inflict damage instead of setting them up for the next hit like i would in sparring. krav maga and the like are shortened versions of martial arts. they strip away a lot of the art and teach you how to fight and get away.
Quote from: KnightofNi on April 01, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
if learned properly you'd be amazed at how useful it is.
i did a mixed system that had a lot of tae kwon do and hapkido in it.
if things do happen i notice that even now (10 yrs after i stopped training) i still move into short stances very quickly and know where to strike to actually inflict damage instead of setting them up for the next hit like i would in sparring. krav maga and the like are shortened versions of martial arts. they strip away a lot of the art and teach you how to fight and get away.
I agree, if it's a mixed system, but I was talking about Karate by itself. BJJ has both the art and real world application.
Ya I'm loving Judo! I do have to hold back because my natural tendencies wants me to throw a jab or left straight to the sniffer when they come in to lock up! Good news today, I called my sensei who just got his 7th degree in shotokan, he is sending my credentials so I can train for my 2nd degree. I would love to teach part time or train clients in self defense.
Went surfing Friday, will try to go back out today. The water is still cold though, about 43 degrees so wet suit is still a must. I'm just glad to be out there, even if I was more of a bouy then a surfer!
Biked to work today. It was faster than driving. [thumbsup]
Monday is my follow up for the results from my MRI.
56 miles on the roadie today with 20+ mph winds most of the time. Included a six mile climb of 1,600 ft (mostly 5-7% grade). [thumbsup]
I felt better during and after than all the times I rode it last season.
I feel like thats the only thing missing in my somewhat active lifestyle...I need a bicycle! I would love a cheap road bike so I can ride to the gym or what have you. [beer]
i weighed myself again on sunday.
4 weeks ago the scale was showing 240 and change.
yesterday it read 228 even.
10 lbs in a month! that just doens't seem right. [laugh]
Hmm. My scale isn't really showing much of a change in numbers, a few pounds at the most, but lucky, all of the mass seems to be moving northward. I feel this is a good thing, as the gut is shrinking, but I'd like to drop a few #s on the scale as well (and then go through the "joy" of readjusting the preload for sag on the bike again. drat)
We've been training pretty hard and are really jazzed about our next cycling race this weekend. It's a 72 mile race in Phoenix and the weather looks to be prime for an event. I'm aiming to finish in 3.5 hours or less which would lock me in for the gold.
This past weekend we trained with our team. I rode 53 miles and Maureen rode 39.5 with a couple of other girls. I felt bad for them though - they had to stop multiple times to repair flats. The even had to Macgyver a fix for the tire with a dollar bill (very impressive!) to keep it from ripping under the pressure of the tube. The roads we were on were unusually crummy with wide spread rocks, glass, and those really sharp needles from the trees; must have been from all the wind we've been having recently. I had a flat too and ended up pulling a really thin metal wire out of the center of my tread. Fortunately though, I made it to the top of a rather steep climb before I had to pull off and fix it!
Rar! Up to 206 in my birthday suit - finally getting some power and speed back in my busted up leg... Clydesdale 7's here I come. Only draw back... can't button the collar on a bunch of shirt again. [roll]
Quote from: yuu on April 05, 2010, 05:49:04 AM
Rar! Up to 206 in my birthday suit - finally getting some power and speed back in my busted up leg... Clydesdale 7's here I come. Only draw back... can't button the collar on a bunch of shirt again. [roll]
rawr...
you manimal [laugh]
Quote from: yuu on April 05, 2010, 05:49:04 AM
Rar! Up to 206 in my birthday suit - finally getting some power and speed back in my busted up leg... Clydesdale 7's here I come. Only draw back... can't button the collar on a bunch of shirt again. [roll]
Yuu sure pack a lot of muscle into you! I would have thought 185 tops when I met you.
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 07, 2010, 06:46:58 PM
Yuu sure pack a lot of muscle into you! I would have thought 185 tops when I met you.
So you admit to checking him out?
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 07, 2010, 06:46:58 PM
Yuu sure pack a lot of muscle into you! I would have thought 185 tops when I met you.
Really? I always saw Ian as a big, built dude. A giant. But maybe the couple times I saw him, he was still 200lbs+. Try fitting into a booth at a restaurant with him; even I was squished!
Quote from: MrIncredible on April 07, 2010, 07:31:49 PM
So you admit to checking him out?
[laugh]
I know I did
Me too :-*
i still think 200 is small. I don't think I could get under 200 even with extreme dieting at this point. Its not that I'm "big-boned", but just shaped like a former football player (though I played rugby, a real man's sport).
i jsut want to get down to 200.
or at least lose the gut. if i'm over 200 after that happens due to being totally ripped then i'll accept it. [laugh]
speaking of being ripped. motivation to continue working out hard.
i noticed yest that i'm starting to get some seperation at the top of my bicept. i pointed it out and the g/f said "really? lemme see!"
i flexed and she oohed and ahhed and kept squeezing my arm.
hello ego boost. ;D
Knight,
One of the perks of working out hahaha!!!
Judo has me back and motivated to hit the gym. I went in and did a total body workout, but I did a lot of balance style workouts like balancing on one leg while doing a chest press on the cable cross overs. Trying to get a stronger core and some leg strength. I super-set everything, as my usual style of GTFO of the gym and enjoy the college girls in their spring outfits!
The college courtyard is like the wild...Guys flaunting and girls doing what they do [cheeky] I must say..... [clap]
Quote from: bulldogs2k on April 08, 2010, 05:24:30 AM
The college courtyard is like the wild...Guys flaunting and girls doing what they do [cheeky] I must say..... [clap]
Don't you mean the high-school playground?
[cheeky]
Just kidding!
Anyway, it's really great to hear all of you guys working hard and staying motivated. We all have our own goals and challenges and I really like this thread because of how it seems to keep people active in posting about what's happening with them.
I'm taking today off completely from working out. I'm 2 days out from my next cycling race and I want to be fresh and strong for it! There's nothing worse than feeling sore on race day. I hit the gym pretty hard last night doing shoulders, back, chest, abs, abs, abs, and biceps. I feel good today and on track.
Keep up the good work everyone! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: a m on April 08, 2010, 04:41:01 AM
i still think 200 is small. I don't think I could get under 200 even with extreme dieting at this point...
I agree
my freshman year of football I was 215 I wasn't cut but I wasn't fat either
we have been on a semi fitness kick, trying to eat right, working out when we have the time, hiking, doing yoga
its fun and I even took a fitness and nutrition class
according to a "clinician's standard test"
I should weigh 150lbs...I don't think so. I haven't been 150 since the 6th grade
Ideal Weight Calculation:
Results:
According to your height of 5' 8" your ideal healthy weight is 147 pounds. Your recommended weight range is between 131 and 164 pounds.
This was calculated using Hamwi formula, a simple formula commonly used by many clinicians.
These are recommended weights. Talk with your doctor about what weight is best for you and before undertaking any new diet or exercise programs.
You can learn more about BMI and see what it is for your current weight by checking out our Body Mass calculator. I'm fairly sure that if I took the necessary steps, even with a doctors supervision, I would die trying to weigh 147
Well, a couple post back I was talking about how you know when your out gunned in Judo...well I was going against a guy half my size on ground technique....Long story short, I get him on his back and he either gets me on a triangle or an arm-bar...I'm so out of shape by the end of it, I was sucking air like my lungs where too small! I could do practice this art everyday!
A big factor in your size and weight is of course based on your body type: Endomorph, Mesomorph, and Ectomorph. What type are you?
I'm 5'8, 165 and an A-typical Mesomorph body (the following is quoted from online): The mesomorph has well-defined muscles and large bones. The torso tapers to a relatively narrow and low waist. The bones and muscles of the head are prominent. Features of the face are clearly defined, such as cheek bones and a square, heavy jaw. The face is long and broad, and is cubicle in shape. Arms and legs are developed and even the digits of the hand are muscled.
Other Traits of the Mesomorph
The skin of the mesomorph is thick and the mesomorph tans well. The hair is heavy in texture.
Famous Mesomorphs
Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, the majority of Mr. Universe winners.
I like to use Stallone in his prime as my roll model - around the time of Rocky IV and Rambo 3 when he was really lean and in great shape. I can't imagine weighing in at 200+ lbs. For me and my body type, that's just not possible unless I ate a diet of candy for the next 4 months!
What body type are you?
haha, it said you have a blockhead. [laugh] [cheeky]
(http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/01/tbt_0179_brick_lego_indiana_jones.jpg)
Endomorph; I have to train hard to to keep the fat off, but I gain muscle mass easy. A hybrid endo-mesomorph. At the end of the session they had one of us lay on the ground and practiced our guard, 30 seconds for every Judoka....I was about to puke!
I'm a mesomorph. I build muscle quickly, but can gain fat just at quickly dependent on my diet and fitness regiment.
Ectomorph. All the traits except the sloping shoulders and long fingers... somehow I wound up with wide sholders and stubby little fingers. I've definitely got the long shart features, spindly bones and skin that burns easily.
I can't bulk up to save my life. Ring of fat around the midsection, maybe, but putting on mass has never happened for me.
Quote from: djrashonal on April 09, 2010, 02:27:59 PM
I'm a mesomorph. I build muscle quickly, but can gain fat just at quickly dependent on my diet and fitness regiment.
That's the part that drives me absolutly crazy. If I'm not exercising and I eat crappy for say...3 days, I can quite literally see the change. Though the flip side is that staying on a diet yields the same results for muscle.
So we competed in the Tour de Phoenix this past weekend and had a great time. I was competing for time and Maureen was setting a new personal best for her distance riding. [thumbsup]
It was a tale of excitement, speed, pain, and exhaustion. The weather was prime - sunny, mid 70's, low winds (at least early on). The race started out fast, I was with the front pack for nearly 30 miles. During the first 30 miles there were several accidents but fortunately no one was more hurt worse than a mild concussion during an accident between to guys who were ironically best friends riding together.
Once we got to the 45 mile point the climbing began. There was one long stretch of an uphill climb at about 15 degrees for about 5 miles called Usery Pass which proved to be the most challenging part of the race. Speeds plumeted from 25mph to 10mph or less. It was a daunting climb to say the least. I would have performed much stronger on that stretch had I had access to a banana or two. Just prior to arriving at that point of the course my quads started to cramp up, and though I had taken in plenty of supplements during the ride, I was lacking in potassium in a big way.
During the climb I couldn't stand out of the saddle because my quads wanted to lockup on me, so I had to climb the entire distance from down in the drops by forcing as much weight as I could off my legs and into my arms so that I could keep the pump going without locking up. I was determined not to stop and to push through. When I did come through, I kept going and was in a swift moving pack of cyclists and taking full advantage of the draft to speed a brief recovery.
From that point there must have only been 10-12 miles left - practically in the home stretch. I looked down at my timer and realized that if I didn't break from the pack that I was riding with that I would never make the time for gold (under 3h45 minutes). So I told myself "ok this is going to hurt, but if you want the gold, you've got to break away now".
I broke from the pack increased the pace up to 27mph from 20mph and pushed it as hard as I could the remaining distance. During the last haul I caught up with several other small packs and took advantage of the draft for a brief pause then kicked it back up again. Once the finish line was in sight I came out of the saddle and sprinted it home! I was overjoyed to have an official tell me that I got the gold!!
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/133/l_89272c7dfc314c6a8b45783529037bf4.jpg)
After the unofficial results were posted, I saw that my time was 3 hours 44 minutes and 52 seconds - I nabbed the gold by a slim 8 seconds!! I was so happy to know that my push paid off!
Maureen did absolutely awesome! I was there for her at the finish and cheered her on as she crossed the line! She was so happy to be done but also ecstatic for having jumped from a previous personal best mileage of 50 miles to 72 miles! Way to go sweetie! [clap]
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/l_548a1c0eeac34923b1a593f9b3db16c9.jpg)
All in all, after all the excitement wound down and the pain of pushing it so hard, we both agreed that it was a really great day!
Next race, the Tour of the Tucson Mountains in just 2 weeks!
Congrats on your finish Dave and Maureen!!!
Sounds like you both had a great race.
I'm back to running. My foot feels good, but my body feels slow. :P
It wasn't an injury per se....I have 3 small cysts in my navicular bone that were causing the pain. I'm now wearing an OTC orthotic (Superfeet) that is reducing the stress on the bone.
Not sure if I'll be back strong enough to compete in the half marathon in a 6 weeks. We may get a relay team together at work.
Thanks Diva!
I work with a woman who has different foot issues, but after she saw a specialist and got some special inserts in her shoes, she was back to running at a nearly normal pace in a relatively short period of time.
I hope that you're solution works for you too!
A relay team sounds like a great idea plus it involves more people which is always more fun! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 12, 2010, 07:45:01 AM
I was overjoyed to have an official tell me that I got the gold!!
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/133/l_89272c7dfc314c6a8b45783529037bf4.jpg)
Thats amazing man! Congrats!!!! I better see that gold at one of the meetings!
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 07, 2010, 06:46:58 PM
Yuu sure pack a lot of muscle into you! I would have thought 185 tops when I met you.
Well I was down a good bit then due to the afore mentioned busted knee. I probably was around 190 the couple time you guys rolled through here due to my inability to do any real exercise Lu. When bubs took us for the Dragon tour, was pre bionic knee, so I hadn't suffered from forced R&R. But in general I carry a lot of leg and back muscle, so I might not look super huge... but I'm strong through the hips ;D
On a more on topic note - I've found a new exercise love. No idea what it's real name is - so if someone knows help me out. To help, here's a bit of description.
- Using one of the full size (45 lbs) bars, one end gets placed in a corner, so it can't slide away or most laterally.
- Add some weight to the end that is not in the corner
- Hoist up the weighted end (the one not in the corner) and cup with both hands.
- Start is arms and legs start fully extended - ie standing, pressing the weight upwards. The the motion is lower the weight with arms to collar bone height - slight slight pause - then squat. Reverse that on the way back up, pausing when your legs are extended before starting the arm press so you don't cheat by carrying too much of the momentum from the squat phase over to the shoulder (ish) phase.
Yeah - no clue what it's called... But feels the most like some of hte stuff we did for Rugby of any weight based exercise I've done.
Quote from: djrashonal on April 12, 2010, 05:38:35 PM
Thats amazing man! Congrats!!!! I better see that gold at one of the meetings!
Thanks! I spoke with the OAM crew yesterday and everyone wants to see it so I'll have it there for sure the evening of the fundraiser (April 30th 7-9) so that everyone can check it out!
Nice dude! [bow_down]
Congrats to Maureen on her longest ride ever and to Dave on your strong finish in the top half. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 12, 2010, 07:45:01 AM
Once we got to the 45 mile point the climbing began. There was one long stretch of an uphill climb at about 15 degrees for about 5 miles called Usery Pass which proved to be the most challenging part of the race. Speeds plumeted from 25mph to 10mph or less. It was a daunting climb to say the least.
I think you might have miscalculated. ???
15 degrees is about 27% grade. I'm not sure anyone could ride 5 miles of average 27% grade, let alone at 10 mph. I looked up the road, if I found the right one it has an elevation gain of about 1100' which over 5 miles is an average grade of 4%, or 2.3 degrees.
trying to keep yourself motivated sucks. esp if you don't see much improvement. also throw in missing a few workouts due to work schedules and it sucks trying to get yourself back in it.
however, i was able to actualyl do more pushups with weight than i normally can do. i guess that's improvement.
Quote from: somegirl on April 13, 2010, 07:56:17 PM
Congrats to Maureen on her longest ride ever and to Dave on your strong finish in the top half. [thumbsup]
I think you might have miscalculated. ???
15 degrees is about 27% grade. I'm not sure anyone could ride 5 miles of average 27% grade, let alone at 10 mph. I looked up the road, if I found the right one it has an elevation gain of about 1100' which over 5 miles is an average grade of 4%, or 2.3 degrees.
quiet you. it's the biking equivalent of "the fish was this big" and you should know that [cheeky]
Monster Dave & SheMonster,
Nice work on the recent ride.
FYI...The two big climbs in Tahoe are steeper than Usery Pass. The first one (up to Emerald Bay) is much shorter (only a mile or so), and is early in the ride. The second one (Spooner) is 8 miles long, but is only 6% for about a mile or so of it. Down side is that it starts at mile 70.
Quote from: KnightofNi on April 14, 2010, 04:45:14 AM
quiet you. it's the biking equivalent of "the fish was this big" and you should know that [cheeky]
oops :-[ ;D
It's really hard for me to guess at inclines especially in retrospect, so "yeah it was THIS big" is a fair assessment of my description. [cheeky]
Randy,
Thanks for the input. I'm at a cross roads as to why my quads cramped up so much - it could have been either dehydration or low potassium. Either way, I've made a mental note to increase my nutrition consumption during an event. Hopefully that will stave off the cramping.
If that wouldn't have happened I really think that I would have come through that stretch much stronger and had much more "in the tank" when I crested the last hill.
Thanks everyone for the kudos - we really appreciate it! ;D
So, I went to put muscle rub on my back, and since it is Pollen season my eyes itch like crazy....Well....I made the mistake of scratching the eyes and it felt like they where on fire....At least they didn't itch anymore [laugh]
Way to go Gomer.
[laugh]
Did the P90x ab ripper two days ago and my muscles are so sore and tight i can barely walk! its good though. Intense, but good
A woman that I work with and her husband started P-90x last week - they're love'n it but are certainly feeling it!!
It sounds like fun! [thumbsup]
Screw that-I don't want advice. I want to know why the people who started off in this thread, haven't been keeping up with the working out? Yeah, I'm calling you lot out-it's been how long and you're still fat?
This is the "GET fit thread"-why are only the fit people posting? I could care less about you who have oodles of motivation.
lol.. come on slow poke pudgies.. do it to it.. get running..
Quote from: MrIncredible on April 14, 2010, 02:11:43 PM
Screw that-I don't want advice. I want to know why the people who started off in this thread, haven't been keeping up with the working out? Yeah, I'm calling you lot out-it's been how long and you're still fat?
This is the "GET fit thread"-why are only the fit people posting? I could care less about you who have oodles of motivation.
So out of curiosity, and I'm sure the newbies will want to know, since you started this thread back in 2008 have you kept up and reached your "ultimate" goals?
Post #1 of this thread:I'm tired of being sore and tired, so I've been running/weights for the last month or so. It's starting to pay off.
Ultimate goals are:
Drop weight from 210 to 190
Be able to run 5 miles in less than half an hour.
Pick up Paula's dirtbike with her on it (300 or so pounds).
-_-
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 14, 2010, 06:06:04 PM
Pick up Paula's dirtbike with her on it (300 or so pounds).
It's not a good time for us to try that one out. ;)
Quote from: somegirl on April 14, 2010, 06:36:38 PM
It's not a good time for us to try that one out. ;)
OK, so we'll cut you some slack on that one...
.....but the baby isn't adding
that much extra weight... [cheeky]
So....I signed up for Filipino Martial Arts to learn more about my heritage. I found a great studio in Va Beach that is 80.00 dollars a month unlimited classes, including a crossfit workout on saturdays. It's a very good price and the lessons are great! He teaches the Inosanto blend of Kali and Muay Thai after class.
Kali really is a killing art, everything I've learned this week was a stab or slash to the vital organs or major arteries. Stick sparring....well that hurt and is a scary knowing that the stick can be replaced with a sword.
Muay Thai was simple yet SO effective! I was burning and my legs still ache! He taught Thai boxing in a more traditional sense, not the MMA style you see at mega dojo's. The stance was traditional and had a march cadence while the arms had a rotational motion but never far from your face.
Dropped another 5lbs; 225 this time last year and now 210. Last blood work indicated a significant drop in liver enzyme levels, so the diet and exercise is working to force the fat out of my liver. They're still slightly high which means I still have more work to do. Ultimate goal is 185-190 and of course normal ALT/AST levels and no more NAFLD.
Stay away from fast food, because that shit will eventually kill you.
Way to go Dr. Jones! Keep it up! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 14, 2010, 06:06:04 PM
So out of curiosity, and I'm sure the newbies will want to know, since you started this thread back in 2008 have you kept up and reached your "ultimate" goals?
Post #1 of this thread:
I'm tired of being sore and tired, so I've been running/weights for the last month or so. It's starting to pay off.
Ultimate goals are:
Drop weight from 210 to 190
Be able to run 5 miles in less than half an hour.
Pick up Paula's dirtbike with her on it (300 or so pounds).
Well, I'm no longer sore and tired. Only down to 202 though so far.
Haven't been running-just rowing.
Can't lift anything over 200 lbs.
Great? No. But hey, I'll call myself out.
yea fast food will mess you up good..
It is official, the world wants me to be fat. For the second time in the past year I am prohibited from physical activity for at least a month. This time, to make matters worse, ice cream is one of the few things I can eat. Yep, it must me so- the world is conspiring to make me fat. >:(
i'm still over 220, close to 230. I suppose that's the bad. On the good end of things, I can still move heavy things all about without making any grunting sounds (gym pet peeve).
Perhaps on some particular day, we should all have to check in (of course, optional) and post progress to hold ourselves accountable.
Quote from: a m on April 20, 2010, 04:33:39 AM
Perhaps on some particular day, we should all have to check in (of course, optional) and post progress to hold ourselves accountable.
Yes.
I fell of the wagon....with the foot problems.
My clothes are starting to feel less roomy. I'm noticeably more irritable and less energetic.
I did run 3x last week, but not all after Wednesday.
I can run 2 miles, but my HRM tells me my fitness level is NO where near it was 8 wks ago.
I've pretty much given up on being able to participate in the 1/2 Marathon at the end of may.
Completing a 5K seems like a more obtainable goal at this point.
The # on the scale means nothing to me, I just want my clothes to fit and my HR to improve.
It's funny how quickly you can loose what you've built up. After my accident in EL Tour de Tucson last year I was off my bike for 3 weeks and though I had been training for months, when I went back to riding, my HR was much higher on average and I could certainly feel it!
When I'm training (cycling) regularly and pushing at my max performance/endurance level, my HR usually sticks pretty steady around 165-172 and recovers quickly with an active recovery. But after the crash when I started back, it was all over the place - like a bouncy ball going all over without any regularity!
Keep on it - you'll get it back! The 1/2 marathon may be a high goal for the end of May, but if you want to do it, do it! You'll get it back fast if you train consistantly! Besides, the sheer motivation from this thread should help get you back in stride!! [thumbsup]
It is too bad that fitness training is not like a saving account. All the hard work you do quickly goes away if you don't keep at it. When I was young and training for kayak and canoe racing I was doing 3 workouts a day. I think that now that I am 59 I should get some credit for all of that hard work. Yeah, I should be able to live off the interest while I eat ice-cream every day. DesmoDiva, you should be able to take a little time off and still have your cloths feel like you want them. And if you put in the time last year, you should be able to do that 1/2 marathon. Who can we speak to about this??
I hear no answer so it looks like I'll be lifting weights tonight, running tomorrow, and eating the veggies my wife makes instead of that ice-cream. It really isn't bad. I do love it. It's only while I'm doing it that I wish I could stop.
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 20, 2010, 11:50:17 AM
It's funny how quickly you can loose what you've built up.
Trying being a woman. estrogen will do your muscle in, real fast. and it makes you cry. its a pregnant dog.
LOL I hate the fact that when I stop lifting, I start to look like an off-season bodybuilder. [laugh]
I love Judo though, I was gassed when they had us take turns throwing each other and popping up as fast as we could. The drill would last for 3 mins and was intense! You would fight for position but once that was achieved, you would give the attacker the throw to keep a fast pace. I'm down 12 lbs in the last 3 weeks so I must have a LOT to loose! [cheeky]
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 20, 2010, 04:25:15 PM
Trying being a woman. estrogen will do your muscle in, real fast. and it makes you cry. its a pregnant dog.
It's got nothing on pregnancy hormones though. ;)
Quote from: somegirl on April 20, 2010, 06:41:11 PM
It's got nothing on pregnancy hormones though. ;)
oh god how that thought scares me.
Quote from: somegirl on April 20, 2010, 06:41:11 PM
It's got nothing on pregnancy hormones though. ;)
Are you expecting?
Yup, due July 29. There's a thread on it somewhere.
Quote from: somegirl on April 21, 2010, 06:06:01 AM
Yup, due July 29.
So, are you ready to be done being pregnant yet?!
[cheeky]
congratulations! I hope its a human!
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 21, 2010, 06:24:05 AM
So, are you ready to be done being pregnant yet?!
[cheeky]
Trust me when I say this.
Do not taunt the pregnant woman. ;)
Quote from: MrIncredible on April 21, 2010, 07:49:30 AM
Trust me when I say this. Do not taunt the pregnant woman. ;)
[laugh] Noted!
+1 Good to know!!!!
I had a coworker take my vitals today:
BP - 113/70
Resting HR - 47
[thumbsup]
It was never that low until I started cycling. I think prior to that it held steady around 57 or 60 - it was certainly a suprise when I first saw that it was so low a few months ago!
When I was seriously training I took my heart rate first thing in the morning, just after I woke up and before I got out of bed. I had the watch on the nightstand so I barely had to move to take my pulse. Your pulse at this time is the lowest of the day and the most consistent. Tracking my pulse taken at this time gave me an indication of how my training was progressing. An increase in pulse for a few days might indicated overtraining. A steady decline indicated progress.
Quote from: akmnstr on April 22, 2010, 04:13:12 AM
When I was seriously training I took my heart rate first thing in the morning, just after I woke up and before I got out of bed. I had the watch on the nightstand so I barely had to move to take my pulse. Your pulse at this time is the lowest of the day and the most consistent. Tracking my pulse taken at this time gave me an indication of how my training was progressing. An increase in pulse for a few days might indicated overtraining. A steady decline indicated progress.
That's a good point - we all have our circadian rhythm which fluctuates throughout the day. I prefer to take mine mid day when my body has been up, moving, and under physical conditions - that way, when I check it, I get a reading based on my real time "in day" conditions.
I really think that it's all relative though - I think that as long as you take it at a consistent time of the day (if you're monitoring it) then it's more or less the same across the board for averaging.
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 22, 2010, 06:33:31 AM
That's a good point - we all have our circadian rhythm which fluctuates throughout the day. I prefer to take mine mid day when my body has been up, moving, and under physical conditions - that way, when I check it, I get a reading based on my real time "in day" conditions.
I really think that it's all relative though - I think that as long as you take it at a consistent time of the day (if you're monitoring it) then it's more or less the same across the board for averaging.
I don't completely agree with you. I think that taking it during the day your pulse could be affected by a number of possible factors like: when you had your last cup of coffee, a stressful meeting with your boss, excitement about Butler Univ. making it to the NCAA championship, or when you walked up the stairs last. The first thing in the morning approach will eliminate much of that environment induce variation in your data. With less variance it will be easier to identify true trends sooner. Having said all that, I do agree that monitoring your heart rate consistently is good and non-technical way to monitor your training and fitness.
These days my training is much less intense and structured. It is more a life style feature than goal driven as it used to be. Your comments have reminded me that it would be useful to monitor my resting heart rate again.
Quote from: akmnstr on April 22, 2010, 08:37:46 AM
I don't completely agree with you. I think that taking it during the day your pulse could be affected by a number of possible factors like: when you had your last cup of coffee, a stressful meeting with your boss, excitement about Butler Univ. making it to the NCAA championship, or when you walked up the stairs last. The first thing in the morning approach will eliminate much of that environment induce variation in your data. With less variance it will be easier to identify true trends sooner. Having said all that, I do agree that monitoring your heart rate consistently is good and non-technical way to monitor your training and fitness.
These days my training is much less intense and structured. It is more a life style feature than goal driven as it used to be. Your comments have reminded me that it would be useful to monitor my resting heart rate again.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 21, 2010, 06:58:48 PM
It was never that low until I started cycling. I think prior to that it held steady around 57 or 60 - it was certainly a suprise when I first saw that it was so low a few months ago!
Makes me want to pick up a beater cycle and go go go!!!!
Sore neck today.
We spent an hour working on clinch fighting, defense, and throws.
I've got on so much Aspercreme the fumes are visible. There's like a shimmering heat mirage around my head right now.
Slowly crawling back on the wagon.
Got out for short runs on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Getting out again today.
There is nobody, but myself, stopping me from at least attempting the 1/2 marathon at the end of May.
And my mind tells me I can!! (only time will tell how the body is going to do) :-\
Thanks for the pep-talks Dave and akmnstr [thumbsup]
Quote from: DesmoDiva on April 23, 2010, 04:43:06 AM
Thanks for the pep-talks Dave and akmnstr [thumbsup]
Anytime! We all get in a rut now and again. This thread is good for finding motivation!
I personally start having trouble (training) when I let a regular training day pass because I'm busy with something else and eventually make an excuse to not go and workout because it's late. It doesn't happen often because I try to remind myself that I'll be cracking my own whip on my back if I don't keep up - I get exercise remorse - and that sucks.
My current "challenge" is a result of warm weather sticking around and my desire to train for cycling as my dominant sporting activity. As a result of that desire, I'm missing an otherwise critical day at the gym and am finding that the first day that I go back to train each week is harder than if I had made it 3 days.
This week I'm training as follows:
Monday - cycling
Tuesday - cycling
Wednesday - gym (shoulders, chest, back (light), abs, and biceps)
Thursday - gym (shoulders, back (heavy), abs, triceps) and did 20 minutes on an erg.
Friday - off
Saturday - cycling (team training 4-5hrs).
Sunday - off
I think I need to squeeze the gym in on Monday in order to keep a 3 for 3 pattern or at the very least go for a short session on Sunday - but by the end of the week I'm pooped.
on task and on target.
got the 85 lb dumbells up on the bench press today.
in four more weeks those pregnant doges will be for my set of five reps. triple digit dumbells here I come.
not much for you bigger guys, but I'm stronger than I've ever been and this whole thing is an internal competition for us all, not versus each other.
(also bought all new pants :))
Quote from: Statler on April 23, 2010, 05:36:52 PM
(also bought all new pants :))
Statler's all new pants:
(http://crossroadstrading.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/mc-hammer.jpg)
Seriously though, great job! I'm gonna start a cardio regiment as soon as finals are over....gotta get ready for this:
http://www.warriordash.com/register2010_rockies.php (http://www.warriordash.com/register2010_rockies.php)
Quote from: Statler on April 23, 2010, 05:36:52 PM
on task and on target.
got the 85 lb dumbells up on the bench press today.
in four more weeks those pregnant doges will be for my set of five reps. triple digit dumbells here I come.
I have always believed in personal plateaus and mental barriers. The ### dumbells were one. 225 on the bench was one at one time (2 plates per side). Once you get the guts to get past that (injury free, mind you) you'll find it more fun to work out there than others, because lots of it was in your head.
Quote from: a m on April 23, 2010, 07:09:35 PM
Once you get the guts to get past that (injury free, mind you) you'll find it more fun to work out there than others, because lots of it was in your head.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Since the weather's been so nice, I've really been loving cycling. Out here in AZ it's daylight by 5am, so I've been up and out on the road by 6am at the latest and ending my ride at work. Talk about a great way to get the day started! Then after work I've been extending my mileage and racking up some nice rides! Pretty soon I want to head out and ride Mt. Lemmon - I hear that it's an amazing challenge!
wow man, thats awesome! how about this. I'll take my monster up mt lemmon with you and set the pace, you can follow ;D
Quote from: djrashonal on April 27, 2010, 08:57:52 AM
wow man, thats awesome! how about this. I'll take my monster up mt lemmon with you and set the pace, you can follow ;D
LOL - just don't forget to attach a pull cord in case I get tired!!! [laugh]
stupid ankle.
i didn't even bother trying to work out last week. it hurt too much to walk so i wasn't about to start doing all sorts of things holding weights.
now i can do most of the workout, but i can tell i'm behind where i wanted to be.
just need to find girls who think i'm hot to get me motivated agian. lol.
I like the new name...but I think a field promotion may be in order....perhaps "Major" Moose Humper...it plays on 2 levels
Quote from: Captain Moose Humper on April 29, 2010, 04:53:36 AM
stupid ankle.
i didn't even bother trying to work out last week. it hurt too much to walk so i wasn't about to start doing all sorts of things holding weights.
now i can do most of the workout, but i can tell i'm behind where i wanted to be.
just need to find girls who think i'm hot to get me motivated agian. lol.
Quote from: winsomelosenone on April 29, 2010, 08:06:24 AM
^ that's exactly how I stay motivated.
the funny part about that is it just doens't happen. i'm not a pretty people, i'm not approached and told how good i look. i'm approached and asked who my good looking freinds are. [laugh]
A portion of my 62 mile bike ride yesterday. [thumbsup]
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs527.ash1/30984_1402403094065_1051957067_1160397_3797203_n.jpg)
Did you go up or down that part of the road? [cheeky]
That road looks killer!
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 03, 2010, 06:32:23 AM
Did you go up or down that part of the road? [cheeky]
Saturday...up. Some days up and down. Dudes were doing repeats on that bugger Saturday (4.5 miles @ 7-8% continuous grade). That was about the midpoint of the ride for us. Down the backside and back to Denver via another route.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on May 03, 2010, 04:33:22 PM
That road looks killer!
It is! Good for all kinds of activities. Skate board racing (sanctioned, no less!), cycling, moto-riding, but a lot of tourists use it as well.
put the weight machine together finally!
before...
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp231/tazios/photo-57.jpg)
after...
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp231/tazios/photo-58.jpg)
now there's NO excuse! time to get my fat ass back into shape...
[bacon]
that's a mighty fancy clothes rack you got there junkie... [cheeky]
Quote from: Major Moose Humper on May 04, 2010, 06:27:29 PM
that's a mighty fancy clothes rack you got there junkie... [cheeky]
you don't see nothing hangin' on dat mo' make the beast with two backser.... >:(
All the clothes and moto gear are actually hanging on the Smith squat rack on the other side of the garage! [laugh]
[bacon]
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 04, 2010, 07:42:09 PM
you don't see nothing hangin' on dat mo' make the beast with two backser.... >:(
All the clothes and moto gear are actually hanging on the Smith squat rack on the other side of the garage! [laugh]
[bacon]
[laugh] [clap]
in other news, the ankle is healed enough for me to get back to the workout.
i'm always happy and excited leading up to the workout. during the workout i hate everythign about it and am fine with being a fat slob.
after the workout i am tired and want to die. 30 min later i'm back to being excited about it.
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 04, 2010, 07:42:09 PM
on the Smith squat rack on the other side of the garage! [laugh]
Where it should be. (I despise the smith machine).
Free weights man.. its all about the free weights..
Quote from: cokey on May 05, 2010, 06:33:36 AM
Free weights man.. its all about the free weights..
i had to pay for mine. :(
[cheeky]
Quote from: a m on May 05, 2010, 05:32:55 AM
Where it should be. (I despise the smith machine).
hahaa... The Smith machine was there (with moto gear already on it) when I moved in... [roll]
Quote from: cokey on May 05, 2010, 06:33:36 AM
Free weights man.. its all about the free weights..
Got them too,
and a pullup bar! [thumbsup]
[bacon]
Sierra Hotel!!!!! I threw the biggest guy in class today at Judo. Now not to sound big headed, I got thrown by a Judoka who also practices Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and he weighs 150...151 wet, and i'm 215-220 so it goes to show that its all about leverage and timing. And I lack both haha...well I have a little :P
Been doing some Muay Thai drills for an hour a day with my Kru and that is INTENSE cardio. He had me do 15 min drills, 2 min on 1 min rest...but I had to do push ups, sit ups, and squats before I could rest. Great way to get extra cardio in for my 1st Judo competition next month. [thumbsup]
Did a 60mile bicycle rally yesterday...and then worked out the liver on a pub crawl that evening [thumbsup]
I'm up to just a hair under 300 miles on my new road bike I got about 5 weeks ago. Trying to average 80-100 base miles during the work week and then hill/intervals on the weekend.
the belly is slowly disappearing.
i've gained more definition than i have ever had. (though that isnt' really saying much coming from me)
i have also started to slowly gain more weight. I guess this means i'm building muscle. i guess i could stand to be 230 if i'm mostly muscle and not flab.
Quote from: Major Moose Humper on May 10, 2010, 04:22:37 AM
i have also started to slowly gain more weight. I guess this means i'm building muscle. i guess i could stand to be 230 if i'm mostly muscle and not flab.
I'm built that way as well. I've decided its fine with me.
Quote from: a m on May 10, 2010, 04:41:58 AM
I'm built that way as well. I've decided its fine with me.
i'm so used to not having any upper body muscle it's freaky.
i dont' think i'll get back down to a 32" waist or 4% body fat, but these are things i can accept. esp if i can actually flex my arms and have something there. lol
I agree - those aren't goals I'm even interested in anymore. I want my waist proportionately reasonable in size, and to keep the middle under control enough that t-shirts hang in the front, rather than swell.
most of those 32" waist guys can't jump on a bench after a month or two off and still put up mid-200's for reps though. There are advantages of being a large mammal. (for other advantages, go to a bar and order a cranberry juice, and when the guy next to you says "what is it ya period?" you won't need to waste your drink by smashing it across his head to teach him manners)
i have never been interested, and still am not, in how much i can bench press, curl, dead lift, etc.
i jsut want to be strong enough to make myself feel good.
besides, my strength has always been in my legs.
also, i would just say yes and stare at them as i drank my cranberry juice
Quote from: Major Moose Humper on May 10, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
i have never been interested, and still am not, in how much i can bench press, curl, dead lift, etc.
i jsut want to be strong enough to make myself feel good.
+1 and thanks for the reminder what this thread is all about.
Quote from: Major Moose Humper on May 10, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
i have never been interested, and still am not, in how much i can bench press, curl, dead lift, etc.
The numbers are how I've always kept track of my progress. Its a fun personal challenge for me, and it keeps me going to the gym. Different strokes for different folks.
For the longest time I trained in a bodybuilding style workouts, with aspirations to do a competition once I finished school. Well things have changed, I want explosive strength and endurance for both sports I'm currently studying. I may do an amateur Muay Thai fight, and, I have a big Judo competition, both in November.
Here's to Train, Eat, Sleep and Repeat! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Major Moose Humper on May 10, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
i just want to be strong enough to make myself feel good.
[beer]
Cheers to that - I second what Randy said.
So this morning I got up and was rolling on my bicycle just after 5am. Today was one of those rides where in the purest possible sense, I really felt alive. By 5am it's daylight, but by 5:30am the sun was just starting to crest over the mountains that surround the city. The air was a cool and crisp 48 degrees, and as the rays of light began to climb across the sky from behind the mountains, they seemed to great the morning dew in the air with a warm handshake that relieved the chill and welcomed the day. The morning sun in all it's glory shone brilliantly in the sky in the purest white color that I have ever seen.
It was in that moment that I felt as though I had total clarity in my life. Suddenly so many things that were causing me stress seemed completely irrelevant...without value or concern. The peace within which I felt so at ease gave way to a release from which I found myself conscious of being more alive in that moment that I had felt in some time. It was amazing.
Though I only had time to ride 30 miles this morning before returning to the routine of work and life, I feel now more centered and focused. As I right this post, and am looking at an image on my second monitor of an open road heading off into the vast horizon, I am reminded that as Balzac tells us, that though life must be tended to, that there is far more reward to finding the peace of a single moment in which we feel "alive" than there could ever be in the banality of our daily routines.
Ride your bicycles, run, workout, ride your motorcycles, no matter what you do, just be sure to give yourselves the time to find the freedom and elation to feel alive.
Have a great day everyone. :)
early morning workout = feel good at work.
early morning workout = very tired by end of day
Hey that's like Forestt Gumps never ending run..
Quote from: a m on May 12, 2010, 12:31:43 PM
early morning workout = feel good at work.
early morning workout = very tired by end of day
Look at it this way - it will help you sleep better and get more rest to do it all over again tomorrow! [cheeky]
Between my wife getting sick, my pulled shoulder muscle, and my sinus infection I haven't been to Muay Thai consistently in three weeks. I'm dreading going back today.
Tomorrow's gonna suck.
Haha Thai Boxing FTW! Just got back from class and it was good one! We'll be having Sakasem the Punisher teaching at our gym. Apparently he run's his seminars like a typical Thai Camp! Can't wait for the pain!
Ran 10 miles yesterday.
The half-marathon is two weeks away....Looks like I'll make it.
May not be the time I was hoping for, but 6 weeks ago I didn't think I would be able to run it all.
nice..
Stupid sinus infection. Doctor's appointment today... there's a Z-pack in my future for sure.
///really miss training.
so i dropped a couple more pounds when i stopped working out. i'm guessiung that was muscle :(
injuries blow
Quote from: DesmoDiva on May 17, 2010, 04:42:47 PM
Ran 10 miles yesterday.
The half-marathon is two weeks away....Looks like I'll make it.
May not be the time I was hoping for, but 6 weeks ago I didn't think I would be able to run it all.
See, we told you that you could do it!! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 19, 2010, 05:42:34 AM
See, we told you that you could do it!! [thumbsup]
Not so fast....
Just got back from the MD, I have a 5th metatarsal stress fx in my right foot now. [bang] [bang]
It would appear I was putting extra stress on it when I was tender on left foot due to the bone cysts.
First day back in Muay Thai after about four weeks out of the gym.
O.
M.
G.
Thank goodness it was only pad drills today. If we'd have sparred I'd be dead.
80 miles on the roadie tomorrow.
Dedicated to my Aunt Marian who passed away this morning after a bout with Leukemia. :'(
100 miles in Tahoe in two weeks. For the same cause.
make the beast with two backs Cancer!
sorry to hear randimus
cancer sux
Thanks, BJunkie.
Was a tough ride today. Turned out it was closer to 90 miles, with some good climbs, and consistent 20-30 mph winds all day. And as any cyclist will can attest, they rarely are at your back.
Good day, nonetheless.
Slipped to page three? Slackers! Get in the gym!
///finally back on sched for M.T. classes, got no legs and no lungs. Gonna be a couple weeks before I'm anything more than a heavybag with feet...
Fortunately, I changed my diet to high protein/low fat during my time off, so I didn't get huge. I'm hovering around 187-188, so with a couple weeks of regular training 180 is within reach.
I completed America's Most Beautiful Bike Ride in Lake Tahoe this past weekend (with Team in Training again to raise funds for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (LLS)).
Last year, my ride time was 6:34, but spent way more time than that on course taking breaks and waiting for the rest of my team.
This year, ride time was 5:51, and just over 7 hours on course.
Weather was great, the ride was awesome, and over $6M was raised for LLS by the 1,300 Team In Training riders this weekend!
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
i stood outside in the Texas heat all day yesterday (6:45am to 7pm or so). I am several pounds lighter today, but no more in shape than two days ago.
i haven't been able to do anything for a month. i cut back on how much i am eating and what i am eating, but i'm only 2 lbs shy of where i was when i started working out in march. [bang]
Great job Randy!
And I'm thinking of staying/getting in better riding shape to do the Moab Century Tour in September.
That ride features the 'Big Nasty' - a 3,000ft elevation gain in 7 miles :o (Tahoe had 3K in elevation gain for the entire ride).
While on travel I picked up 'Cardio Strength Training'
http://www.amazon.com/Cardio-Strength-Training-Muscle-Stronger/dp/1605296554 (http://www.amazon.com/Cardio-Strength-Training-Muscle-Stronger/dp/1605296554)
Though I haven't done a cover to cover read and I'm digging it so far. The lean on my workouts was towards this (very little rest, keep moving etc) - but after a 1st workout incorporating just some of the basic stuff from the book I was more sore than I'd been in ages.
So if you can find it in a local book store, give it a thumb through. Depending on your goals, might be worth picking up.
Apparently ... dancing is a great way to optimize your BMI [laugh]
Bleh. Not that that serious dancers are not fit as all hell... but that guy's a wanker. And BMI is such hookum.
When I was actively playing for a premier league Rugby team my BMI was 31.something... a respectably quick 40 time and could put down 10 miles w/o much drain.
*Yuu hates the BMI
I signed up for a 50-mile ride today here in Colorado.
The ride is a little over two weeks away, but since I just did the century in Tahoe a few weeks ago, I should be able to finish this one.
It does have a bit more climbing (4K ft climb in 50 miles vs. 3K ft climb in 100 miles in Tahoe).
http://www.centurioncycling.com/colorado-routes/ (http://www.centurioncycling.com/colorado-routes/)
^^^^Nice!! I'm thinking of registering in the 25 miler at Wisconsin!!
Well the fiancee and I joined 24hr fit tonight. We are excited to get fit again. :)
Any opinions on personal training? After signing up they tried to talk us into about $1000 worth of personal training for just her. It was 19 sessions total. We would love to do it but don't have the money for it right now.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 08, 2010, 01:45:08 PM
And I'm thinking of staying/getting in better riding shape to do the Moab Century Tour in September.
That ride features the 'Big Nasty' - a 3,000ft elevation gain in 7 miles :o (Tahoe had 3K in elevation gain for the entire ride).
[thumbsup] Do it! The "Big Nasty" awaits... 79 days
Month of June = 450 miles on the road bicycle and I started training for the White Rock full marathon here in Dallas.
Ultimate goal for the next 24 months is to do a 70.3
Hey all,
It's been a while since I added any updates but that's largly because I'm in full training mode for cycling. It's been a year ago (this month) since we got our road bikes and I've taken to cycling in ways that I never imagined. Over the last year I've ridden just under 4000 miles! I always think it's crazy to hear numbers like that from other people, but I never imagined that I would have ridden so many myself!
Since it's summer and our here in AZ it's HOT to say the least in the afternoons, I've been getting up and been rolling on my bike during the week by 4:30am. Doing that allows for me to punch out nearly 3 hours of training before starting work. Then after work depending on the heat, I'll push out another hour or two. On a typical day of training, I regularly manage to get in 60-80 miles.
We were out recently and found 2 really great books about the type of cycling that I'm doing (long distance) and they are really helping me with understanding how much rest time my body needs after certain types of rides. I took my resting HR the other morning before ever getting out of bed and it was sitting comfortably at 43bpm (precycling it was in the mid 50s)
I was in a hurry this morning and wanted to ride but didn't have much time, so I opted to do a mock time trial to work (7.8 miles). It was great and with traffic lights I did it in roughly just 20 minutes! It really puts TT racing into perspective when you see how fast the pro's at the Tour de France are riding over similar distances.
My next event is 93 days away and 187 miles long. It's a smaller event because of the extreme distance, so I've got my eyes on winning the event. I really need to lean down about 10lbs to get the edge on my bike - because it's soooo much cheaper to lean down myself than to buy lighter parts!!!!
In anycase, I'm glad to hear that everyone else is keeping it up! Good job everyone! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
haven't had much time with the new baby and all since I'm tired from her 2am and 5 am wake up calls. Also been working 60 hrs a week.. on my days off at least ill go out @ about 6-7 am and ride around the city and then off to the park for dips, pullups a d such.. will start hitting the park after work once its not 100% humidity..
Nice metric century today.
Finished in 3:20 and felt great the whole way (even thought about going back out for a 5k run afterward). Rode solo most of that ride so not much recovery time in a paceline.
Getting some good base mileage for my full centuries in Aug and Sept.
i have been cleared to start working out again. [clap]
i'm starting off at 125 and will prob gain muscle weight gfaster than losing fat weight. i'm ok with that though.
the problem i have now is my right shoulder is so weak I cna't do a single push up. dam you atrophy!
Quote from: bryant8 on July 10, 2010, 06:04:04 PM
Nice metric century today.
Finished in 3:20 and felt great the whole way (even thought about going back out for a 5k run afterward). Rode solo most of that ride so not much recovery time in a paceline.
Getting some good base mileage for my full centuries in Aug and Sept.
My a metric century, you mean 72 miles right? 3h 20m is a nice time. What's your bike and setup?
Keep it up!
Quote from: Monster Dave on July 13, 2010, 12:38:43 PM
My a metric century, you mean 72 miles right? 3h 20m is a nice time. What's your bike and setup?
Keep it up!
Metric Century = 62 miles (100km).
Quote from: bryant8 on July 01, 2010, 04:19:52 AM
[thumbsup] Do it! The "Big Nasty" awaits... 79 days
I'm in for Moab. See you in September. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on July 13, 2010, 12:38:43 PM
My a metric century, you mean 72 miles right? 3h 20m is a nice time. What's your bike and setup?
Keep it up!
100km = 62 miles as Randy pointed out. That was my best overall pace for that distance. I'm on a Trek 4.5 Madonne with 105/Ultegra & RaceLite wheels, contemplating the Bontrager Aeolous 5.0 wheels that a teammate has offered up as he has the 6.5 version now.
Looking for a TT bike for next year. Cervelo, Orbea, or maybe Jamis frames are the front runners
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on July 13, 2010, 02:47:27 PM
I'm in for Moab. See you in September. [thumbsup]
Saweet! 67 days to go. I'll drop you contact info later
3 sets of tennis (doubles) in the 109 degree desert heat today.
Do you know how good a cold beer can taste?
Oops, that's what I meant (62 miles).
Nice setup. I need a new bike badly. I'm up against the wall as far as performance goes. My GT-R weighs in at 23lbs with 1 full water bottle on it, and I've only got 8 gears rather than 10. It's a fine enough bicycle, fun to ride, overall a really decent starter bike, but for serious competing it's just a few short.
After training on it for the last year, and putting nearly 4000 miles behind me, getting on a lighter and better geared bike should be an amazing change!
My next event is now 86 days away and counting!!!
I'm back to running in the AM, started out with 2.5 mi and increasing. I guess it's helping me recover quicker between rounds, but that's about the only difference I've noted.
Also built a plyo box for the basement... now I need a horse stall mat and to re-install my pull-up bar, and I can crossfit in the AM instead.
Weight @ 185lbs (prolly hit 180 by September), and went shoping for 32" waist pants... FML, they've only got 32-36 in Dockers. Felt good to throw out the 40" waists w/ the elastic from three years ago.
F'in Dockers. Damn it.
Congrats on tossing out the old biggies! That must have felt great! [thumbsup]
My AM ride yesterday was cut short by a broken wheel - so I only got in 25miles in the morning, but I got my wheel fixed the same day, then went to the gym and hopped on a spin bike then did some weight work on upper body muscles. With my wheel fixed, I took to the road this morning by 4am and got in a 43 mile ride this morning before work. I ended my route at work, so I've got another ride back home in the AZ heat, so I should round out the day at about 55 miles. That'll put me at just under 4000 calories burned for the day. As it stands, for all that I've consumed today, I'm still -1227!
Tomorrow's my rest day, then Saturday or Sunday I'm aiming to get a 70 mile ride in.
Rest days/light spin days for me this week are today and tomorrow. Saturday I have a hill intensive ride (55miler) and I plan on doing some extra hill repeats. Gotta get ready for Moab!
Oh yeah, just passed 1000 miles on my new road bike... I've had it a touch over 14 weeks
I was at a dealership today that I hadn't been to in a little over two years.
Many of the employees who knew me then commented on "how fit I looked", or "how much weight I've lost", etc.
One even thought I lost 30lbs. :o
I know I've dropped some weight, but not nearly that much.
Since I really don't track that stuff, I'll give myself a [thumbsup]
;D
oh yeah, ive seen pictures
I'd do you and wouldn't even make you put on the wig
[thumbsup]
Quote from: Mother on July 15, 2010, 02:06:14 PM
oh yeah, ive seen pictures
I'd do you and wouldn't even make you put on the wig
[thumbsup]
DDGM is going to get jealous if you keep talking like that!
:-*
the trick is going to be to keep this/improve on it over the winter.
Quote from: Statler on July 15, 2010, 03:30:58 PM
the trick is going to be to keep this/improve on it over the winter.
I don't think that will be a problem. I didn't add much this past winter, and my cycling plans for next summer are much more aggressive. Besides, me needs to be skinny the next time Mom sees me. It'll be that much easier to elude him.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on July 15, 2010, 06:54:43 PM
I don't think that will be a problem. I didn't add much this past winter, and my cycling plans for next summer are much more aggressive. Besides, me needs to be skinny the next time Mom sees me. It'll be that much easier to elude him.
butyou will be smaller and lighter and therefore easier for him to carry you off should he get a hold of you. :-*
320 miles of twisties, freeway, and city riding on the S2R 1K today
68 miles in the Texas heat today. Even starting early this morning didn't help much. Did some intense hill repeats and still managed to have a 15+mph pace overall.
Hmmm. The Centurion 50-miler kicked my butt today. Pretty darn hot. 4K climb in the first 30 miles. Cramping in my quads along the way. I finished, however.
In the early part of the race, I spent about 7 miles or so on Davis Phinney's wheel. [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down]
In the early part of the race, I spent about 7 miles or so on Davis Phinney's wheel. [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down]
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I used to work for that guy's cousin. I hear he's pretty good.
One of those days where you might have been better off just resting. Went out for a 40 mile ride, but just didn't have the legs. Managed to do 30 before packing it in and getting a recovery meal in. Kinda strayed from the normal diet yesterday and definitely felt the lack of energy today. Looking forward to my rest day tomorrow and then 70miles on Sat
My week-long vacation of riding the Duc all over creation, going to shitty bars for loud rock shows, getting sunburned at IMS and playing Nerf guns with the kids has come to an end. I expected to be up about 10lbs from all the beer and track food, but I'm actually down two pounds.
I'm guessing that was muscle loss, and will reveal itself in painful fashion when I go back to kickboxing tomorrow.
Rode an 85 mile training ride this past weekend. Next weekend will be 95-110 miles.
I also ride Mt. Lemmon for the first time. It was amazing - now I know why Armstrong used to train there. Though round trip my ride was only 36.9 miles, in half that distance, I went from 1000 foot elevation to 6000 feet to arrive at my goal of the 1/2 point called Windy View Point. From there there's only 11 miles to go to the top. But seeing as it was my first ride up, I was fighting the lactic acid buildup in my legs. It was amazing though. I was so proud to have reached my goal especially after having to fight myself psychologically and to push through the pain and punishment of such a challenging climb. It almost brought a tear to my eye to have made it! [thumbsup]
Dave, great work on that 85 miler. Sounds like a real intense hill climb!
I had a great ride this past weekend. 80 miles at 18.0mph. Won't lie though, I was pretty tired afterward
I have 4 weeks until my 2nd century ride this year and then another 3 weeks until the 3rd century.
Just finished a 6.5 mile run in 54 mins. That was the longest distance I've run in over 6 years. 5 months until my full marathon [thumbsup]
My car has been parked for almost a week. I've been riding my (pedal) bike everywhere, work, farmers market....
I'm back to running pain free.
Aiming for a 5k in Sept.
Would really like to get in a 50mi ride before putting the bikes away for the winter.
1st day back to Muay Thai = not too terrible. Cardio not quite where it should be, but I'll attribute that to the week off. Other than that, not bad.
Question for the runners - the tops of my feet have been irking me... basically the point where my ankle meets up with the little bones and tendons in my foot. Not down by the toes, but closer to where the top lace of a running shoe would rest. I imagine I probably kicked poorly at some point and bashed this part of my foot one someone's shin or ribs, thus creating the soreness and Rice Krispies sounds I'm getting from the feet, but I suspect it has something to do with the running I've added to my routine.
If anyone has encountered anything similar and has any input (causes, how to treat, how to eliminate, how to prevent recurrence) I'd be greatful.
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on July 29, 2010, 05:28:06 AM
1st day back to Muay Thai = not too terrible. Cardio not quite where it should be, but I'll attribute that to the week off. Other than that, not bad.
Question for the runners - the tops of my feet have been irking me... basically the point where my ankle meets up with the little bones and tendons in my foot. Not down by the toes, but closer to where the top lace of a running shoe would rest. I imagine I probably kicked poorly at some point and bashed this part of my foot one someone's shin or ribs, thus creating the soreness and Rice Krispies sounds I'm getting from the feet, but I suspect it has something to do with the running I've added to my routine.
If anyone has encountered anything similar and has any input (causes, how to treat, how to eliminate, how to prevent recurrence) I'd be greatful.
Thanks in advance.
No expert, but if it were me: X-rays if you feel it warrants it. Next stop running for a few weeks to let heal the slowly start running again. 10-15min every 4 days for a few weeks, then step up to 30min and up from there.
Also get the book, Chi running linky (http://www.chirunning.com/shop/home.php). IIt really helped me have a form to practice while running. Just like you wouldn't kickbox with out instruction, why is running different. I have a copy at home, if i can find it ill send, But itll be a month before im home.
Just set a PR 519 miles in the month of July. I'm going to take a few days off to relax and get ready for my next century ride in 4 weeks... the Hotter than Hell Hundred
Oh yeah, working towards my marathon distance as well.
Nice work B!
I rolled about a hundred this weekend. 80 on the roadie and the rest bombing around on the MTB yesterday afternoon.
Saturday's 50-miler had about 4K in climbs. It was a struggle for sure, but I was at a much steadier and faster pace than last May when I was last on that road.
My wife has been training for the Pelotonia race in Columbus coming up in a few weeks.
She is definitely at a disadvantage as she is riding a mountain bike, but she'll be there to finish the 46mi loop which she has signed up for.
All proceeds go to a 100% cancer research foundation here. I think it is the Lewis Center which I believe is run by Ohio State Medical School.
Last year Lance did the race, not sure about his commitment this year.
As I am not riding, I am going to volunteer at water stations or wherever they place me.
Being on a mountain bike does not necessarily mean a disadvantage.
In '09, a couple on our Team in Training group road the Century at Tahoe on MTBs. They hauled ass.
Quote from: bryant8 on August 02, 2010, 06:42:07 PM
Just set a PR 519 miles in the month of July. I'm going to take a few days off to relax and get ready for my next century ride in 4 weeks... the Hotter than Hell Hundred
Oh yeah, working towards my marathon distance as well.
Excellent work! Keep it up and don't under estimate the value of recovery time!! [thumbsup]
Quote from: DanTheMan on July 29, 2010, 11:37:08 PM
No expert, but if it were me: X-rays if you feel it warrants it. Next stop running for a few weeks to let heal the slowly start running again. 10-15min every 4 days for a few weeks, then step up to 30min and up from there.
Also get the book, Chi running linky (http://www.chirunning.com/shop/home.php). IIt really helped me have a form to practice while running. Just like you wouldn't kickbox with out instruction, why is running different. I have a copy at home, if i can find it ill send, But itll be a month before im home.
Thanks for the advice and the link!
$30 per day charge to use the hotel gym here at Aria in Las Vegas is a bit excessive.
Really putting a damper on the exercising while here in town.
I did walk about 4 miles the other day in 100+ degree heat. That was fun. [roll] Reminded me of IZ's exploits at Bikram Yoga places in Scottsdale, or wherever the hell he roams (kinda like a gnome).
A short weekend is going to prevent much activity on the bicycle. Not a good thing when a tough century ride is about 5 weeks away.
I'll manage somehow.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on August 12, 2010, 09:54:39 PM
I'll manage somehow.
see if you can use this free gym pass at the 24hr fitness down the street
http://www.gymticket.com/gyms/NV/Las%20Vegas/?zip=89109&address=3355%20Las%20Vegas%20Blvd%20S (http://www.gymticket.com/gyms/NV/Las%20Vegas/?zip=89109&address=3355%20Las%20Vegas%20Blvd%20S)
There's been a significant change in my race plans for October this year. The race that I had committed to had a route that was 187 miles, but do to some unforeseen route issues, they changed the route and gave everyone 2 new choices - back it down the the 157 mile route, or go for bust and do a 234 mile route.
Needless to say, I've committed to doing the 234 mile route! So I'm in an uber-training mode for the next 56 days!
Thankfully, I have a sweetheart who's totally supportive of my goals and is helping me by driving the support car on long training rides as well as serving as my race day support!
Good grief, I miss my bike. Didn't get to bring it on my current business trip (Singapore). Instead, I've been running and hitting the gym hard. Weather permitting, I get to go mtb'ing tomorrow on a borrowed Kona Stinky, about two sizes too small. Combination of bike size, platform pedals, crazy suspension, and high weight should make it fun to keep up with the group. Downhills should be fun though. Too bad there aren't any. I'll be back home next weekend, and plan to dust off the Titus asap!
Quote from: djrashonal on August 13, 2010, 08:01:43 AM
see if you can use this free gym pass at the 24hr fitness down the street
http://www.gymticket.com/gyms/NV/Las%20Vegas/?zip=89109&address=3355%20Las%20Vegas%20Blvd%20S (http://www.gymticket.com/gyms/NV/Las%20Vegas/?zip=89109&address=3355%20Las%20Vegas%20Blvd%20S)
I'm a member at 24hr, but thanks anyway.
Was tied up nearly all the time as it was.
Off to Phoenix this week. Will definitely be able to get to the gym there.
I rode 8 miles on my bike yesterday. That is 2 more then the last time, and the second time in over a year.
I put 78 miles behind me this past Sunday. It was freak'n hot. I was aiming for 100 and could have if it hadn't been 110 by 10am. After having to soak my head multiple times to cool down, I opted to call it quits quits.
You are a smart man!
It's always a hard decision to make to end a workout early, but listening to your body is more important.
(sometimes I need to listen to my own advice)
LOL, we'll I too tend to be of the "never surrender, never say die" school of thought. Fortunately, my sweetheart helped me realize that I should listen to my body and live to ride another day....she was right, and I was really glad that I didn't push it the rest of the way and end up with heat stroke.
Today is a rest day but tomorrow will be 50-70 miles. I'm 9 weeks out from my race and am really starting to see improvements. I installed some aero bars this weekend and found that the aerodynamic position increased my speed by 2-3mph, which in and of itself got me more pumped! I have to say that I'm both excited and nervous about the event. A 234 mile race isn't for the faint of heart!! It's in a location that I've never been, so I'm totally unfamiliar with the route and weather patterns except from what I've read online about previous year races. I suppose that part of the nervousness is part of what makes it exciting though and part of what gets the adrenalin pumping as the days tick by to the event!!
Where is the race, Monster D?
Just moved into my new apartment and its 3 blocks from one of my favorite gyms.. this gonna be a good winter..
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on August 16, 2010, 08:12:33 PM
Where is the race, Monster D?
It's the Cochise Classic and it starts in Douglas AZ.
Details: http://www.pbaa.com/!CCCC/CCCChome.html (http://www.pbaa.com/!CCCC/CCCChome.html)
I had an amazing training ride this morning - I put in 33 miles before work this AM and saw my average speed increased from what was only a recent personal best (overall average during training) 18.5mph up to a first time hit at 19.5mph. My goal is in the next 9 weeks to get that up to 22mph. I think that's doable if I keep on with my training routine as I have been for the past month and a half.
This afternoon's ride will be an easy ride home and put me at about 45 miles for today. Tomorrow is a planned higher mileage day, so an easy spin on the bike after work today should leave my legs still pretty fresh for the morning which I plan to hit between 60-70 miles tomorrow.
Rode this morning and was off to a great start when at just about mile 14 I felt something "snap" on my bike and wasn't sure what it was....
....turns out I broke (and get this) my 4th spoke on the rear wheel of my bike!!! I can't figure out why this keeps happening. I guess I'm putting too much torque on it or something and they just keep snapping on the drive side. Fortunately, I'm getting it replaced for free by the mfg this weekend. So riding until Sat is put on hold. Hopefully the next one will be better.
Needless to say I only made it to 28 miles since I opted to just limp by warped wheel home slowly.
glad you're getting it fixed!
I'm leaving on a 6am flight to colorado for my Warrior Dash Race this weekend. Gonna try to acclimate for a day or so before i run up Copper Mountain
http://warriordash.com/register2010_rockies.php (http://warriordash.com/register2010_rockies.php)
should be a lot of fun! If you're in the area come out for some beer, giant turkey legs and good music after the race!
Nice, new apartment door way fits my pullup thingy.. the 13 yr old and I put in some reps..
As previously mentioned, I've not been able to get to the gym much lately due to travel and work commitments.
So after not riding my roadie for the last two weeks, I decided join a couple friends today to attempt to summit Mt. Evans. Mt. Evans features the highest paved road in North America to an elevation over 14,000ft.
Below is a link to a map of the route. If you click the "show elevation" button on the "Info & Tools" window on the map itself, you'll see that the 27 mile ride to the top has 6,493ft of climbing in it. :o
http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/co/idaho-springs/257126760044153076 (http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/co/idaho-springs/257126760044153076)
I made it up to about the 16.5 mile mark and had to stop. Out of gas. Stella was on course with water and Gatorade, so I hitched a ride with her up to the 24.5 mile mark and rode the remaining 3 miles or so to the top. Tough, tough ride.
View from the top:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs394.snc4/45676_417308941708_730796708_4858911_7556568_n.jpg)
And here you can see a portion of the roadway above the treeline:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs194.ash2/45700_417309996708_730796708_4858935_7743347_n.jpg)
[thumbsup] [clap] [bow_down]
Nice work Randy!!!
holy crap randy! [thumbsup]
so i made my official restart on working out last sunday.
start weight is 227lbs (last time i started at 240lbs)
my quads are still sore, but getting better.
maybe by the official end of summer i'll be rid of the gut and have that phantom upper body muscle again. lol
Hey Randy,
Have you ever done this: http://www.deercreekchallenge.com/ (http://www.deercreekchallenge.com/)
Looks awesome - it's on my radar for next year!
Quote from: Monster Dave on August 24, 2010, 08:33:53 AM
Hey Randy,
Have you ever done this: http://www.deercreekchallenge.com/ (http://www.deercreekchallenge.com/)
Looks awesome - it's on my radar for next year!
Nope. This year is the first time it will be held.
I have some reservations about it, mainly traffic control. It looks like they will be closing some of the roads, but they still have to close US-285 for the ride. Not sure how that is going to work out.
It will definitely be a challenge. I've ridden a few of those roads, and they aren't easy. Of course, I'm a fairly new rider and definitely not a competitive rider.
Nice climb Randy. [thumbsup]
Rode a training ride yesterday with winds gusting at me at 30mph. Unlike most cyclists, I like training with wind because it really does make you stronger - if you can just keep out of your mind that it's knocking you around and the thought that you're having to work harder I've found it to be very beneficial. Even with a really strong wind in my face, I kept an average speed between 22-30mph on varied terrain. It was great until the thunderbumpers started unleashing some crazy lightning. At that sight I bolted home (no punn intended!!) LOL.
Training is going well. I can't believe that I'm within 7 weeks until race day. I got a new rear wheel and it's been trouble free so far - hopefully it stays that way!
For this week I'm doing:
Sun - 66 miles
Mon - Off
Tues - 50 miles
Wed - 50 miles
Thurs - Easy/Off
Friday - off
Sat - 80-100
Oh and my new favorite tune that's been getting me going strong is "Running Down a Dream" by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. [thumbsup]
Good tunes make all the difference when training!
Registered for a 5k at the end of Sept.
Got to get ready for the 8k turkey trot on Thanksgiving.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 25, 2010, 03:11:46 PM
Registered for a 5k at the end of Sept.
Got to get ready for the 8k turkey trot on Thanksgiving.
Awesome! Good luck! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
85 miles on the roadie yesterday with the Team in Training crew. About 3,500 feet in elevation gain, and it was 93* and windy in Denver.
Felt pretty good post ride and today, even without much physical activity since last Sunday's torture test.
The Moab Century is about three weeks away.
Luckily, my work schedule is keeping me here at home for the next few weeks so I can get some riding in prior to heading to Utah.
Welp as of today, down from 210 to 197.
Great job! [thumbsup] is it from fetching the mrs random things in the middle of the night? I heard that happens a lot ;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 29, 2010, 08:31:19 PM
Welp as of today, down from 210 to 197.
[thumbsup]
Nice work, Dave!
222, down from 285 - trying to get to 200 by the end of the year. I'll be 48 in a few days and I feel better than I have in 15 years.
Quote from: WarrenJ on August 30, 2010, 08:22:07 AM
222, down from 285 - trying to get to 200 by the end of the year. I'll be 48 in a few days and I feel better than I have in 15 years.
[bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down]
That is quite an achievement!
Keep up the good work.
Without going back through this thread, what are you doing differently to lose that much weight?
I've lost it slowly over several years. Got diagnosed with diabetes and decided to do something about it. I walk or jog 2 to 4 miles/day. In the winter, I snowshoe or crosscountry ski every day. Took most of the simple carbs out of my diet, reduced food volume and increased food quality. Hypertention is gone, blood sugar is in good control with limited help from meds. I do have to watch my activity level... if I am out working in the woods or some other hard activity beyond my normal routine, I will crash my bloodsugar so then its a balancing act to put in the right fuel at the right time to avoid getting in trouble and dealing with a spike crash cycle.
I try to not "work out" - I like to do strenuous things that accomplish something in the process. In the late summer and fall here, I cut and split firewood for my house and my parents. Its great exercise, especially splitting 12 full cords of wood with a mall.
This is what this thread is about. Good job, folks.
I'm hovering at 160. Happy there, but this fall is time to drop about three more percentage of fat to get the abs cut. I look a lot different now than I did at 215. Gonna try to get there before i turn 40.
It's a fun corner to turn going from weight goal to percentage and clothing fit goals. The first time I had to tailor dress shirts for athletic cut made me quite happy.
Keep at it. Gonna be a good fall/winter
Quote from: WarrenJ on August 30, 2010, 10:49:39 AM
I've lost it slowly over several years. Got diagnosed with diabetes and decided to do something about it. I walk or jog 2 to 4 miles/day. In the winter, I snowshoe or crosscountry ski every day. Took most of the simple carbs out of my diet, reduced food volume and increased food quality. Hypertention is gone, blood sugar is in good control with limited help from meds. I do have to watch my activity level... if I am out working in the woods or some other hard activity beyond my normal routine, I will crash my bloodsugar so then its a balancing act to put in the right fuel at the right time to avoid getting in trouble and dealing with a spike crash cycle.
I try to not "work out" - I like to do strenuous things that accomplish something in the process. In the late summer and fall here, I cut and split firewood for my house and my parents. Its great exercise, especially splitting 12 full cords of wood with a mall.
contratulations.........nice accomplishment.
I like your belief in "accomplishing something in the process" of getting your exercise. While I do still lift weights a couple times a week, all my other exercise is done in the process of serving a function, including walking my dog for an hour and half each day.
everytime I walk by the cardio section of the gym I can't help but think of hampsters on treadmills.
I've been roped into an alumni lacrosse game at the alma matter in about a month... so this morning's run included the helmet, gloves, and stick. The farmers in central Indiana really aren't prepared for the sight of a wheezing, pasty behemoth struggling alongside the road waving an oversized tennis racquet and wearing hockey gloves at 5:45am... at least three different pick-ups almost swerved into the ditch. I'm pretty sure I'll be placed on some kind of terrorist watch list if I continue this behavior.
I'm considering just tearing my hamstring now, so that I can avoid the embarassment of playing and get started on the inevitable recovery already.
I'm now down to 30 days until my 234 mile cycle race. I made a small change to my drive train on my bike over the long weekend that I hope will help. The rear cassette that came on my bike was heavy and had over 4,000 miles one it (along with the chain), so I upgraded to a lightweight SRAM 26 rear cassette and SRAM chain.
The change has been a bit of an adjustment to my riding, but ultimately I think that it will be to my benefit. On this mornings ride I saw a nice little jump in average speed from 19.5 to 19.7mph (inching ever so close to 20mph). I felt really good this morning and wasn't as tired as I thought from my 67 mile ride on Monday. I'm pretty sure that I can get that average up to 20mph with the results that I'm seeing before race day. The good thing though is that I'm seeing improvements and I've not yet peaked. With any luck that won't happen prior to my race.
The way I figure it at 19.5mph average, it'll take me 12hrs to finish. I'd love to say that I could do it in 11.5 hours, but that would mean holding an average of 20mph. Last years top finisher for the ultra endurance distance held an average speed right at 20mph, the second place finisher was at 17mph.
So I guess it's time for me to get all "Eye of the Tiger" and really push for that jump!
Just remember.. 2nd is the first loser...
Quote from: cokey on September 08, 2010, 09:14:48 AM
Just remember.. 2nd is the first loser...
I think one of my favorite quotes about wining and loosing was said by Sean Connery in The Rock:
Stanley Goodspeed: I'll do my best.
John Mason: Your "best"! Losers always whine about their "best"! Winners go home and make the beast with two backs the prom queen.
Stanley Goodspeed: Carla was the prom queen.
I've got my very own prom queen doing SAG for me, so as it goes, I'm not worried. My best will get me to the finish! [thumbsup]
Lol..
So as I've posted, I've had some trouble with my rear wheel - what a pain in the arse. I broke 5 spokes (not all at once) on it, had multiple adjustments done, then had it swapped out for a brand new one about a month ago. Within the last 4 weeks, I broke 2 spokes having the second break yesterday. I was SO irritated and was nearly 30 miles from home but near the bike shop where I got them. After limping my bicycle to the shop, I worked it out with them to swap out the wheel, credit me for the original purchase cost, and purchased a new Mavic race wheel.
Talk about night and day! The second I rolled on that wheel I thought "OMG this is amazingly better!" So now I have a far more reliable wheel, and one that weighs less and has better bearings.
Needless to say on my ride this morning my average speed held strong at 20.5mph! I'll need to replace the front wheel with a matching one to balance out the performance, fortunately though the Mavic wheel matches my front wheel nearly identically (in look - matte black, bladed spokes) - so at least it doesn't look mismatched!
*Edit - after doing a weight comparison between my current front wheel and the matching Mavic, I'd be adding nearly 100grams to the weight of my bike if I change out the wheel. Given that the front one has never caused me any problems (knock on wood), I may just stick with what I've got to help keep the weight down.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ <cough> Bicycle thread
<cough> ...directly related to my fitness program....
Bike Blog?
I thought this was the "get fit" thread:
Quote from: MrIncredible on November 09, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
*Note, this is not a how to-let's not get into a debate over methods.
Are you out of shape?
Race leathers unusually tight?
Those stairs getting steeper?
Have random strangers stopped asking for sex?
Can't see your junk?
It's time to do something about it.
Post up here-set a goal, let us know how yer doing.
I'm tired of being sore and tired, so I've been running/weights for the last month or so. It's starting to pay off.
Ultimate goals are:
Drop weight from 210 to 190
Be able to run 5 miles in less than half an hour.
Pick up Paula's dirtbike with her on it (300 or so pounds).
So basically, get back to where I was 5 years ago.
Subtle...
But seriously? Was that necessary (changing the thread name like that)?
Next time don't be a jerk. Just PM me if you have a problem.
I think it's time (once again) for an age/maturity check.
That's some funny shit right there
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Well, here we are again. I've been posting up the progression of my fitness routine (like everyone else) which has been heavily rooted in cycling because I'm training for the biggest race of my life and again I'm being attacked. What the heck??!!
For what it's worth to the general readership of this thread, I've been insulted and attacked via PM and frankly it's been totally uncalled for and ultimately unnecessary.
I really don't understand why there are a handful of guys who have such a problem with me. If you have nothing nice to say, then why waste the time to say anything at all?
As it stands, last I checked I never did anything to anyone.
MD -
This issue has come up in the past, correct?
Why don't you just start your own thread?
I'm not going to speak for anyone, but I think the issue is that your exercise regimen kinda goes against the "spirit" of this thread.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 10, 2010, 11:28:18 AM
MD -
This issue has come up in the past, correct?
Why don't you just start your own thread?
I'm not going to speak for anyone, but I think the issue is that your exercise regimen kinda goes against the "spirit" of this thread.
DING make the beast with two backsing DING ;)
ok folks, lighten up, laugh at yourselves, and let's not take everything so seriously ok?
Dave, if you take one step back and look at the thread and the total volume of words, can't you smile and joke along with it?
We disagreed about it last year (or the year before) when I actually started a different thread to escape what had become all yours, and I've laid off commenting after that, but Dude, not everyone is sunshine and unicorns and there is that risk when posting up so publicly... and effusively.
you're not being attacked, you're being poked fun at.
I will change the thread title back form the other mod's wisecrack, and I'll do it without giggling.
my bad. It wasn't a mod that did the change.
I won't interfere with posts then.
carry on...
Quote from: Monster Dave on September 10, 2010, 09:10:29 AM
Subtle...
But seriously? Was that necessary (changing the thread name like that)?
Next time don't be a jerk. Just PM me if you have a problem.
I think it's time (once again) for an age/maturity check.
and Dave, the OP can edit his thread to whatever he wants to. Please don't start name calling publicly. (although "jerk" doesn't exactly ring the admin warning bells, so..er..nevermind)
For the public record.
I did it.
I'm immature and a jerk.
Watch me not care.
Next thread title will be "Whatever happened to IZ doing ten behind the back push-ups?"
Followed by
"Statler owes me ten muscle-ups or a bottle of tequila"
Then
"The following fatties have given up on working out" I will name names.
and
"The fittest fossil ever, a tribute to Kopfjager!"
In other news, can we not take the internet so seriously? It's not actually real.
TV isn't either.
K, thanks.
Quote from: Statler on September 10, 2010, 11:36:55 AM
ok folks, lighten up, laugh at yourselves, and let's not take everything so seriously ok?
1) Dave, if you take one step back and look at the thread and the total volume of words, can't you smile and joke along with it?
2) We disagreed about it last year (or the year before) when I actually started a different thread to escape what had become all yours, and I've laid off commenting after that, 3)but Dude, not everyone is sunshine and unicorns and there is that risk when posting up so publicly... and effusively.
you're not being attacked, you're being poked fun at.
I will change the thread title back form the other mod's wisecrack, and I'll do it without giggling.
1) No, I can't step back and laugh at it because this has happened all too often and I'm really frustrated.
2) Because I post more frequently this is a problem? How many times has this thread fallen back 2 or 3 pages on the forum because its died without people posting? I've been trying to keep it active. Apologies.
3) Apologizes to anyone who finds enthusiasm bothersome - sometimes I get over-enthused.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 10, 2010, 11:28:18 AM
I'm not going to speak for anyone, but I think the issue is that your exercise regimen kinda goes against the "spirit" of this thread.
Randy or anyone, based on the above quote, please explain how posting goals, progress, and efforts goes against the "spirit" of this thread. Moreover, please define in exactitude the "spirit" of this thread and who's responsible for judging what passes as "getting fit" if that is the basis for which my posts are being judged.
Statler, I'll be sure to leave the otherwise "referring adjectives" out from future posts. Thanks for the heads-up. [thumbsup]
I wish MrI had left his snarky comment on the subject up earlier today.
Quote from: MrIncredible on September 10, 2010, 11:52:23 AM
For the public record.
I did it.
I'm immature and a jerk.
Watch me not care.
Next thread title will be "Whatever happened to IZ doing ten behind the back push-ups?"
Followed by
"Statler owes me ten muscle-ups or a bottle of tequila"
Then
"The following fatties have given up on working out" I will name names.
and
"The fittest fossil ever, a tribute to Kopfjager!"
In other news, can we not take the internet so seriously? It's not actually real.
TV isn't either.
K, thanks.
[laugh] [clap] "Your killing me Smalls."
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 10, 2010, 11:56:34 AM
I wish MrI had left his snarky comment on the subject up earlier today.
Are you seriously encouraging this issue to continue Randy?
sorry.
I found it to be humorous and relevant.
All that you're doing is throwing gas on the fire.
Quote from: Monster Dave on September 10, 2010, 12:08:33 PM
All that you're doing is throwing gas on the fire.
I was basically replying to this:
Quote from: Monster Dave on September 10, 2010, 11:53:10 AM
Randy or anyone, based on the above quote, please explain how posting goals, progress, and efforts goes against the "spirit" of this thread. Moreover, please define in exactitude the "spirit" of this thread and who's responsible for judging what passes as "getting fit" if that is the basis for which my posts are being judged.
what he had said and subsequently deleted was, "this is the 'get fit' thread, you are already fit"
and I also previously quoted the OP, which gave the exactitude of the spirit of this thread. hopefully you could read the light-hearted spirit between the lines.
Do I need to go back and delete my old posts about jogging now that the thread's title has been changed?
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 10, 2010, 12:12:14 PM
I was basically replying to this:
what he had said and subsequently deleted was, "this is the 'get fit' thread, you are already fit"
and I also previously quoted the OP, which gave the exactitude of the spirit of this thread. hopefully you could read the light-hearted spirit between the lines.
OK, you know that isn't an overly negative point and one I'm willing to discuss.
And as a point of discussion what is considered "fit" and on what standards is that judged? - question open to all.
For me, I feel as though I have a long way to go to get to where I want to be. So on a certain level and to certain people I may be "fit", but it's not where I aim to be. On the same token, one could argue that someone who's naturally skinny and runs once a week is also already fit while at the same time they eat ho-hos and don't care at all about being fit.
Quote from: pennyrobber on September 10, 2010, 12:22:30 PM
Do I need to go back and delete my old posts about jogging now that the thread's title has been changed?
I don't think that jogging fad is going to catch on. I believe it's jogging or yogging. It might be a soft j.
The Simpsons - What's A Gym (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4i8SpNgzA4#normal)
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 10, 2010, 12:28:23 PM
I don't think that jogging fad is going to catch on. I believe it's jogging or yogging. It might be a soft j.
[laugh]
First time posting on this thread... was up to 216 lbs after some injuries, down to 173 currently. Trying to get down to 155 lbs and then bulk back up in muscle to 165-170 lbs. Trying to get my two-mile run time down to around 14:30, currently at 15:53. I've got a washboard stomach, but there's still a little dirty laundry on top... trying to take care of that, too.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 10, 2010, 12:28:23 PM
I don't think that jogging fad is going to catch on. I believe it's jogging or yogging. It might be a soft j.
It is definitely Jogging. Or yogging. But do you know what it
Represents??
Quote from: El Matador on September 10, 2010, 01:09:00 PM
It is definitely Jogging. Or yogging. But do you know what it Represents??
I don't really like jogging (or yogging, whichever it is) from an exercise standpoint, so I've never really cared.
Quote from: Adamm3406 on September 10, 2010, 12:53:57 PM
First time posting on this thread... was up to 216 lbs after some injuries, down to 173 currently. Trying to get down to 155 lbs and then bulk back up in muscle to 165-170 lbs. Trying to get my two-mile run time down to around 14:30, currently at 15:53. I've got a washboard stomach, but there's still a little dirty laundry on top... trying to take care of that, too.
Why get so small to bulk back up?
Seriously, I don't know.
Quote from: MrIncredible on September 10, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
Why get so small to bulk back up?
Seriously, I don't know.
My guess (just a guess) would be to make the weight gain, lean muscle mass.
I have a one pack ab....
hate me. ;D
Isn't there something important to argue about? ???
I have a keg instead of a six pack
Pin Head, pigeon chest, lucky legs, no arse.
What do you think of me so far?
;D
Would it be considered thread jacking if I mentioned that I will be starting up Podrunner again? Been watching my gut steadily expand the past few months, mostly because it's so damn hot I don't want to step outside the house.
Quote from: humorless dp on September 10, 2010, 02:24:37 PM
Isn't there something important to argue about? ???
Flat black is better than gloss red.
There, I said it.
Quote from: MrIncredible on September 10, 2010, 03:35:42 PM
Flat black is better than gloss red.
There, I said it.
Would it hurt your feeling if I called you...
wrong?
Quote from: MrIncredible on September 10, 2010, 03:35:42 PM
Flat black is better than gloss red.
There, I said it.
+2 and is faster !!!
Stealth baby!
Quote from: duccarlos on September 10, 2010, 03:18:53 PM
Would it be considered thread jacking if I mentioned that I will be starting up Podrunner again? Been watching my gut steadily expand the past few months, mostly because it's so damn hot I don't want to step outside the house.
You can always come visit, ya' know....
Wisconsin? I don't think so
WTF is "Podrunner"?
Podcast that is supposed to help you run from 0 to 5k in 8 weeks
Quote from: duccarlos on September 11, 2010, 12:56:08 PM
Podcast that is supposed to help you run from 0 to 5k in 8 weeks
5K over 8 weeks? That's not even 1K per week!
I know. I set my expectations low
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 11, 2010, 10:55:02 AM
WTF is "Podrunner"?
Really ????
The thing that 'young Skywalker' to pilot before being recruited as a jedi apprenctice !!!
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on September 11, 2010, 03:16:33 PM
Really ????
The thing that 'young Skywalker' to pilot before being recruited as a jedi apprenctice !!!
'Podracer'
;)
So what's the deal? No posts for nearly 3 weeks?? Did everyone get fit already or just give up??
boo. [thumbsdown]
Taking the kiddies to youth soccer and work has cut the muay thai training in half... the weight is creeping back on (damn you, football season!).
Gonna try to turn the tide in the next couple weeks, starting tonight. 183 was on the scale two weeks ago, and I think I can get that back by this weekend if my schedule holds up.
Finally got the Orbea back on the road last weekend while MrI looked after baby, just 16 rolling miles but it was a really nice break from the trainer. Definitely out of shape though, can't really do more than 30 minutes on the trainer max and that depends on how Marlowe's day is going.
Making good progress at joining back together my separated ab muscles, also finally back to doing full push-ups, been doing a few sets of 20 most days.
And my right shoulder has gotten a great workout keeping it up as a pillow for Marlowe's head. [cheeky]
Quote from: somegirl on September 30, 2010, 06:30:19 PM
Finally got the Orbea back on the road last weekend while MrI looked after baby, just 16 rolling miles but it was a really nice break from the trainer. Definitely out of shape though, can't really do more than 30 minutes on the trainer max and that depends on how Marlowe's day is going.
Making good progress at joining back together my separated ab muscles, also finally back to doing full push-ups, been doing a few sets of 20 most days.
And my right shoulder has gotten a great workout keeping it up as a pillow for Marlowe's head. [cheeky]
Baby steps, but [thumbsup] for you!
Could use some insight from this group:
Really want to drop some additional sizes (since I expect the number on the scale would maintain with the additional muscle)
I currently teach aerobics 4x/week (minimum - sometimes more) with a weight component added in at the end - started running in the spring and did 2 5K but haven't run since August (with moving and all that stuff going on)
Thinking about adding in more/heavier weights since I know that will burn more.
Have the dvd for PX90 (I think that's what it's called)...thoughts?? Insight??
Quote from: somegirl on September 30, 2010, 06:30:19 PM
Finally got the Orbea back on the road last weekend while MrI looked after baby, just 16 rolling miles but it was a really nice break from the trainer. Definitely out of shape though, can't really do more than 30 minutes on the trainer max and that depends on how Marlowe's day is going.
Making good progress at joining back together my separated ab muscles, also finally back to doing full push-ups, been doing a few sets of 20 most days.
And my right shoulder has gotten a great workout keeping it up as a pillow for Marlowe's head. [cheeky]
I agree with Randy - just give yourself a chance to get back in the groove again. Good for you for getting back at it! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
PS. I'd be careful about mentioning
anything about bicycles in here - fore you risk the same fate as I.
Quote from: dolci on October 01, 2010, 05:48:09 AM
Really want to drop some additional sizes (since I expect the number on the scale would maintain with the additional muscle)
I currently teach aerobics 4x/week (minimum - sometimes more) with a weight component added in at the end - started running in the spring and did 2 5K but haven't run since August (with moving and all that stuff going on)
Dolci,
Do you wear a HR monitor that counts caloric burn during your exercise classes? That's the first place I'd start. If so, track your caloric consumption and compare it with your caloric burn. I know lots of people say that creating a deficiency is not the best way to lean down, but I've found it to be very effective. Doing what you ask should be fairly easy given your level of activity. [thumbsup]
figure id jump into this.
Any tips to shed that last layer of fat that is hiding my sixpack? droped clsoe to 15lbs in 2 months. im 5'6 145lbs. original 158lbs.
Quote from: Drjones on April 19, 2010, 04:27:37 PM
Dropped another 5lbs; 225 this time last year and now 210. Last blood work indicated a significant drop in liver enzyme levels, so the diet and exercise is working to force the fat out of my liver. They're still slightly high which means I still have more work to do. Ultimate goal is 185-190 and of course normal ALT/AST levels and no more NAFLD.
Stay away from fast food, because that shit will eventually kill you.
Liver tests came back clear, so the fat deposits have been moved out. Yay, no more NAFLD. Weight is down to 205, but I've been plateau'd there since August. Then again I haven't been spinning the bicycle pedals since August either. Cooler weather is rolling in, so it is time to switch bikes from the Schwinn Supersport on the trainer to the Klein Pulse Comp and do some outside riding. Always burn about 50% more calories outside too; 900/hr vs 600/hr. 185lb by Jan 1 or bust.
Quote from: He Man on October 01, 2010, 09:34:57 AM
figure id jump into this.
Any tips to shed that last layer of fat that is hiding my sixpack? droped clsoe to 15lbs in 2 months. im 5'6 145lbs. original 158lbs.
Hey He Man,
Truth be told, getting your abs to lean down that extra bit is all about staying away from carbs. Load up on high protein foods, eat vegetables, and stay clear of as many carbs as you can. At your point, I'd suggest counting carbs versus counting calories. While too much of either one is bad for your goal, the latter is the key.
Nice job on leaning down! [thumbsup]
Dr. Jones, great news on the liver test! Keep it up!
thanks MDave - I think the advice for HeMan is probably worth taking to heart for me as well. The inches that aren't moving are mostly around the mid-section....
I have a Polar-Tec heart monitor which I haven't utilized in a bit so it's back to that as well.
Quote from: dolci on October 01, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
thanks MDave - I think the advice for HeMan is probably worth taking to heart for me as well. The inches that aren't moving are mostly around the mid-section....
I have a Polar-Tec heart monitor which I haven't utilized in a bit so it's back to that as well.
Sure thing Dolci! Post up and let us know how it goes!! [thumbsup]
no carbs? [thumbsdown]
Doesnt energy come from carbs? whats the right amount of carbs to eat for someone like me? Doesnt help that i LOVE jasmine rice and pasta does it?
Edit: so Carbs become sugar, sugar spikes insulin and insulin stores fat. What if your on a low fat diet already? Then theres no fat to store right?
Quote from: He Man on October 01, 2010, 11:53:24 AM
no carbs? [thumbsdown]
Doesnt energy come from carbs? whats the right amount of carbs to eat for someone like me? Doesnt help that i LOVE jasmine rice and pasta does it?
Edit: so Carbs become sugar, sugar spikes insulin and insulin stores fat. What if your on a low fat diet already? Then theres no fat to store right?
Hey He Man, sorry for my delay in responding! You are correct, carbs give your body energy, however taking in a low amount of carbs won't run you out of fuel. Depending on your metabilism your carb intake to lean down may vary significantly.
To answer your question a bit more accurately, can you describe your typical weight gain and loss cycle: ie do you gain weight easily and loose it quickly? ...gain it quickly and loose it slowly? ....gain it slowly but loose it quickly? etc.... Also, how tall are you and what is your current weight? And lastly, how much aerobic exercise do you get and how much anaerobic exercise to you do (number of days per week and approximate amount of time)?
With that information, I can probably get in the ball park for you to have some figures to start with for your program.
[thumbsup]
I've been running consistently for about a year now. So, last Saturday I went to the local running store to pick up a new pair of Sauconys. I brought my old pair which brought on an unwanted joke from the salesman, "are these from the 50's or something." Of course they are much newer than that. It is I that is from the 50's. After setting me up with my new shoes he told me, "You should get new shoes every 6 months." Although I've heard this many times before but I still run in my shoes until something wears out. It is either sound advice based upon some good research or a great marketing plan. What do you think: sales BS, is there science to support the pitch?
When I was running, I always new it was time for new shoes when my knees started to hurt. That almost always coincided with the padding of the shoes no longer absorbing the impact as it was designed to do. I think that the amount of good use of a pair of shoes depends a lot on the frequency and amount of running that you do along with the way in which your foot impacts the ground, your form, and a variety of other possible influences. So 6 months is probably a good "rule of thumb" but certainly open to flexibility.
Much of what you say about makes more sense than what I have heard about running shoes. Seems that there are lots of variables to consider like: the make and model of the shoe, the runners size and weight, the degree of runners pronation, and the miles run. I'd like to be able to examine the shoes and be able to detect some physical change that told me, "these shoes are shot." My last shoes still felt great after much use and very obvious signs of wear.
I think the new shoe thing is complete bullshit. There is no reason your body should need anymore impact resistance than it was built with, if you have pain you are running incorrectly, ex. stride or footfall problems.
I switched to running barefoot (in Vibrams) about a year ago after a plantar fasciitis battle and have not looked back. It was a slow and difficult start but I can pound out the miles better than ever and feel much better than running in shoes. The extra cushion and support in running shoes perpetuates problems that already exist rather than allow your body to self correct. Also, shoes weaken many of the foot and lower leg muscles because your body isn't required to use them when wearing shoes.
Look at Running Zen or Born to Run, both very popular books.
Quote from: YellowDuck on October 04, 2010, 10:31:12 AM
I think the new shoe thing is complete bullshit. There is no reason your body should need anymore impact resistance than it was built with, if you have pain you are running incorrectly, ex. stride or footfall problems.
I switched to running barefoot (in Vibrams) about a year ago after a plantar fasciitis battle and have not looked back. It was a slow and difficult start but I can pound out the miles better than ever and feel much better than running in shoes. The extra cushion and support in running shoes perpetuates problems that already exist rather than allow your body to self correct. Also, shoes weaken many of the foot and lower leg muscles because your body isn't required to use them when wearing shoes.
Look at Running Zen or Born to Run, both very popular books.
Duc,
I have to respectfully disagree with you on your point about foot support and impact cushioning. While for some, running isn't a problem, there are no aches and pains, and some like you can run barefoot for miles. However, that being said, those people are not the average runner. Shoes are designed to improve a variety of elements that contribute to potential injuries. Though we are bipeds, our bodies are not designed to sustain impact at the joints over long periods of time, which is why so many people have knee injuries or try to avoid them by purchasing the proper equipment to compensate for our bodies natural deficiencies.
A good runner's shoe store should be able to examine the movement of your foot and build a shoe specially for your specific needs, or at the very least get you into a shoe which fits your body movement correctly.
Dave, no wories.
Have you read either of the books I referenced?
Quote from: YellowDuck on October 04, 2010, 12:05:25 PM
Dave, no wories.
Have you read either of the books I referenced?
No, but ironically we were in an REI this past weekend and I spotted one of them on the shelf! [thumbsup]
While I am not a runner, nor do I ever aspire to be, I would not discount the benefit of running barefoot or with Vibram Five Fingers.
My neighbor is a Ironman triathlete and switched to barefoot running or running with Vibrams.
He cut over an hour off of his run time.
As M-Dave mentioned, not all people are built to run that way, but I would guess that more are capable of it as we were born without shoes on our feet.
Actually, from a physiological point of view, we are all built to run that way. The issue that you are getting at, is that over time, people have designed more and more products that take you further from the natural course of motion that our bodies were "designed" for, hence all the new fangled, cushioned running shoes. All they really do is allow your natural musculature to atrophy to the point where you need the cushioning in the shoe to run comfortably, thus perpetuating the customer's desire for them.
I agree shoes probably cause more problems than they help. I do most of my karate workouts in bare feet, there is definitely a difference in how I move and use my feet than when I use shoes.
Quote from: He Man on October 01, 2010, 11:53:24 AM
no carbs? [thumbsdown]
Doesnt energy come from carbs? whats the right amount of carbs to eat for someone like me? Doesnt help that i LOVE jasmine rice and pasta does it?
Edit: so Carbs become sugar, sugar spikes insulin and insulin stores fat. What if your on a low fat diet already? Then theres no fat to store right?
Some of it is the type of carbs, not the amount. Look for ones that are lower on the glycemic index as they will spike your insulin less. Your body can make fat so being on a low-fat diet is not a guarantee. Having healthy fats in your diet helps you feel satiated and eat less.
Quote from: Monster Dave on October 04, 2010, 07:19:24 AM
Hey He Man, sorry for my delay in responding! You are correct, carbs give your body energy, however taking in a low amount of carbs won't run you out of fuel. Depending on your metabilism your carb intake to lean down may vary significantly.
To answer your question a bit more accurately, can you describe your typical weight gain and loss cycle: ie do you gain weight easily and loose it quickly? ...gain it quickly and loose it slowly? ....gain it slowly but loose it quickly? etc.... Also, how tall are you and what is your current weight? And lastly, how much aerobic exercise do you get and how much anaerobic exercise to you do (number of days per week and approximate amount of time)?
With that information, I can probably get in the ball park for you to have some figures to start with for your program.
[thumbsup]
I dont know how my weight gain is since ive been at hovering between 155-160 for almost 2 years now. Thats my happy weight and i can pretty much each wahtever i want. It took about 2-3 weeks to lose 5lbs, but it was a struggle to lose the next 10 (almsot 2 months). Im 5'6" 144 in the morning. I try to run once a week but i havent done any of that since school started (last week of aug) but my work out pretty much revolves around muay thai, which is 3-4 hours a week right now. And working out at home which is all resistance band and cals. I dont know what kind of workout you would call it, but theres no breaks and i only do it for about 30 mins cause im too poop to move by then.
I am just always feeling hungry without a nice big bowl of rice with some juicy meat. Im usually hovering around, "i could eat right now" and then ill have a light meal. But if i try to eat salads or foods that dont stuff me up or have some significant aka, it doenst weigh at minimum 1lb, i downgrade to starving. Everything I eat has to be home cooked because ive been going BROKE trying to eat out. I just end up spending tons of money on thigns that just dont fill me up.
Quote from: YellowDuck on October 04, 2010, 10:31:12 AM
I think the new shoe thing is complete bullshit. There is no reason your body should need anymore impact resistance than it was built with, if you have pain you are running incorrectly, ex. stride or footfall problems.
I switched to running barefoot (in Vibrams) about a year ago after a plantar fasciitis battle and have not looked back. It was a slow and difficult start but I can pound out the miles better than ever and feel much better than running in shoes. The extra cushion and support in running shoes perpetuates problems that already exist rather than allow your body to self correct. Also, shoes weaken many of the foot and lower leg muscles because your body isn't required to use them when wearing shoes.
Look at Running Zen or Born to Run, both very popular books.
Some of you may know that in 1960 Abebe Bikila, won the olympic marathon running barefoot. Also, I was on my high school cross country team and 2 of our best runners ran barefoot. When it was wet and muddy they were particularly fast. We never lost a dual meet. But I am not a superhuman like the great Abebe, nor even like my high school team mates. I'll continue to wear shoes.
Your weight is at a good spot.. you could bulk up your abs a bit for them to show.. to have so little body fat tht your abs are riped out takes a lot.. it goes away faster too.. more muscle means more fat burn doing the same task.. so if you just have a little stomach fat, you can make them show.. what are you doing for ab work outs?
Quote from: DRKWNG on October 04, 2010, 04:18:25 PM
Actually, from a physiological point of view, we are all built to run that way. The issue that you are getting at, is that over time, people have designed more and more products that take you further from the natural course of motion that our bodies were "designed" for, hence all the new fangled, cushioned running shoes. All they really do is allow your natural musculature to atrophy to the point where you need the cushioning in the shoe to run comfortably, thus perpetuating the customer's desire for them.
Exactly. The only reason people think they have to run in shoes is because they have conditioned themselves that way. We have the physiology to run very long distances for a very long time, we just stopped having to do it long ago.
Quote from: cokey on October 05, 2010, 09:22:09 AM
Your weight is at a good spot.. you could bulk up your abs a bit for them to show.. to have so little body fat tht your abs are riped out takes a lot.. it goes away faster too.. more muscle means more fat burn doing the same task.. so if you just have a little stomach fat, you can make them show.. what are you doing for ab work outs?
A little bit of everything.... Ill probably rip through 600+ reps of ab workouts every other day. Ill do the P90X Ab ripper X, then ill also do my Muay Thai ab training.... after today, I realized my kicks have absolutely no power, so i REALLY want to get my obliques worked out. Not to look good, but to delivery some seriously powerful kick since im short.
I haven't done p90x yet, does its ab workout include weights? You can try using weights.. you can also do side bends with weights..
nah, its just not designed to be used with weights.
i dont have the time to do the whole p90 regiment or the space really.
Whats a good workout to get power from your abs when your doing torque motions? Aka, what would a baseball player do to get a killer swing?
Wood chops
Fitness - Boot Camp Workout 2: Wood Chops Exercise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhATg1-b9g#normal)
and integrate a twisting rotation
Quote from: He Man on October 05, 2010, 07:21:30 PM
Whats a good workout to get power from your abs when your doing torque motions? Aka, what would a baseball player do to get a killer swing?
Spend hours in the batting cage.
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 05, 2010, 09:55:52 PM
Spend hours in the batting cage.
I thought i just had to juice.
Quote from: He Man on October 05, 2010, 10:42:07 PM
I thought i just had to juice.
You can juice all you want, but it won't give you better hand eye coordination.
Quote from: He Man on October 05, 2010, 07:21:30 PM
Whats a good workout to get power from your abs when your doing torque motions? Aka, what would a baseball player do to get a killer swing?
We're constantly twisting with medicine balls and resistance straps in Muay Thai... all the power in the art comes from the rotational motion, so you focus a lot on developing the oblique core muscles.
I've got a knucklhead MMA buddy that blasts on an old truck tire with a sledgehammer as a way to improve his twisting torque... search youtube for vids of The Pit Kempo training or of Kelly Pavlik training (please note - Kelly Pavlik is a pro boxer, not my knucklehead MMA buddy). Like this, about 1:20 in to the vid. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxMgUHB76Bo#normal)
Quote from: djrashonal on October 05, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
Wood chops
Fitness - Boot Camp Workout 2: Wood Chops Exercise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhATg1-b9g#normal)
and integrate a twisting rotation
Now that's what I'm talking about. [thumbsup]
Hey all! I had my 234 mile race last weekend and it was AMAZING!!! I worked so hard for months leading up the to race and I just couldn't imagine it ending any better than it did!
Here are some of the highlights:
Riding:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs809.snc4/68917_165890856755832_100000047568622_561450_1900693_n.jpg)
Receiving the Conquistador Trophy from the President of Perimeter Cycling:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs413.ash2/69131_165664820111769_100000047568622_560274_5748323_n.jpg)
My Winnings - Gold Lion (like Le Tour de France), Gold Medal, Conquistador Trophy:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs410.ash2/68803_165622360116015_100000047568622_559984_3764171_n.jpg)
The story of my race is one that could take some time to explain. But in short, it started off great, then about 40 miles into the race, a fellow cyclist had a serious accident and I ran to his rescue. Apparently, he had a heart issue and as a result he lost consciousness while riding and veered out of our pace line, across the lane and flew 20 feet into the brush in the darkness (it was 3am). Anyway, I was with him for nearly an hour as were several other people who arrived on scene shortly after me until an ambulance arrived and took him away.
When I got back on my bike I found myself alone for the duration of my race (though followed closely by my SAG car). Anyway, I kept on going but when I reached about 120 miles I was really struggling with some psychological negativity and being all alone wasn't helping things. I nearly threw in the towel at that point but at the last moment, I opted to get back on my bike and continue. From that point, I continued up some seriously challenging terrain, battled the winds, rough roads, and pushed myself for another 5 hours before I ran out of the energy to continue. Though it wasn't easy, I was very proud of making it as far as I did, and happy to stop at that point (170.25 miles). From this point on, everything that came to follow was a HUGE surprise to me.
Before turning in for the night we received an invitation to have breakfast the next morning with the President of Perimeter Cycling and his staff. WOW we thought. What a nice surprise. What we didn't know as that at breakfast I was the only racer present. After we ate breakfast, everyone was called to silence and in front of everyone, I was presented with a gold medal for the effort and persistence that I showed over the 170 miles that I rode. I couldn't believe it!!! I felt so full of joy that they felt the need to award me a gold medal - WOW!!!
Then, out of the blue, they announced that aside from the overall winner, and the dedication recipient of this years event, they were going to award one more Conquistador trophy (something that they do not usually do). For a moment I thougt that it might be to me, but then I told myself it couldn't be....things like that never happen to me, besides, I was just awarded a gold medal! Well, as fate would have it, it WAS awarded to me!! In his speech, the president of Perimeter cycling announced that it was being awarded to me in honor of outstanding sportsmanship and for having sacrificed my race in order to help a fallen cyclist.
I was so surprised and flattered that I almost couldn't speak. It's the most prized honor that I have ever received. In addition to all of this, I also got to know Fred Boething owner of the Race Across America - an event that I very much want to do at some point in my life. What an amazing person. Getting to know him was like meeting a racing celebrity; it was absolutely amazing!
So when all was said and done, I came away from this weekend feeling more like a winner than I would have had I won the race in record time. It was just fantastic. I learned so much about myself and am very grateful for the new friends that I made as a result of my actions.
Oh on one final note, we were very happy to have found out later in the evening (of the race) that the fallen cyclist had 4 broken ribs, but otherwise would make a full recovery. [thumbsup]
[clap] [bow_down]
Now go eats lots of [bacon] [bacon] [bacon]
Awesome work Dave!!!
Quote from: DesmoDiva on October 14, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
[clap] [bow_down]
Now go eats lots of [bacon] [bacon] [bacon]
Awesome work Dave!!!
Thanks Diva! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Nice Job Dave!
Hey people! Where is everyone??? Has everyone started hibernating for the winter?
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 02, 2010, 08:12:35 AM
Hey people! Where is everyone??? Has everyone started hibernating for the winter?
Nope, it is just getting nice here for working out outdoors. Been weight training and running but recently purchased
new shoes that have given me blisters. I take a few days off running, then my feet begin to fell better, I run again and now the soles of my feet look like hamburger.
No hibernation here!!
Just slowly getting back into things...
Just completed week 4 of my training program. Target 5K race in Feb, followed by a second in March, and a 10K in May.
So far I have had little soreness and or pain from the injuries that sidelined me this past spring.
We're also going to pick up a trainer (for our road bikes), free weights, and a bench. [thumbsup]
So I'm not really sure where to put this comment, but this past weekend we rode in the annual El Tour de Tucson bicycle race here in sunny AZ.
It was a really challenging race this year thanks to a cold front that blew in from the west creating extremely windy riding conditions. All day we struggled with a 30mph wind which seemed to be nearly at all points in our face!! Why is it that the wind is rarely working in your favor??
Over all it turned out to be a decent race. I came in 1,430th out of the 4800 racers who raced the 109 mile route - so I didn't perform too badly, but my average speed took a serious hit thanks to the windy conditions.
My sweetie rode the 66 mile route because she's been working so much that she hasn't had a whole lot of time to train, but she really did a great job and finished very strong! [thumbsup]
The best part of the whole weekend though was that we spent yesterday evening at a party hanging out with Greg LeMond (3 time Tour de France Champion). It was fantastic - if you've never met him, he's really amazingly kind and interested in just talking with you. We had a great time!
I must admit though that the high point of the evening though came when he and I did 3 rounds of celebratory tequila shots!
[beer]
What a great memory!!
...though after having other drinks, I'm dealing with a pretty massive headache this morning!! ....but it was TOTALLY worth it!! [cheeky]
Great job Dave!!! I decided I'm gonn do the 40mi race next year! Are you going to do the warrior dash in Florence at the end of April?
Hey thanks!
Between now and then if you get to cycling a bit, I think that you'll really enjoy doing it yourself!
The warrior dash? I doubt it - but it looks like fun!!
Yea, I've started stashing away for a new bike. I bit it hard today heading down the hill on thornydale from cortaro to ina. Hit a patch of gravel going around 20mph at 5:30 am.....super sore. but when I get a bit of dough sacked away I'll get in touch with you to get some help pickin up a road bike.
The warrior dash is a lot of fun.....i've got about 6 months, im gonna peer pressure you into it!
Quote from: djrashonal on November 22, 2010, 12:57:30 PM
Yea, I've started stashing away for a new bike. I bit it hard today heading down the hill on thornydale from cortaro to ina. Hit a patch of gravel going around 20mph at 5:30 am.....super sore. but when I get a bit of dough sacked away I'll get in touch with you to get some help pickin up a road bike.
The warrior dash is a lot of fun.....i've got about 6 months, im gonna peer pressure you into it!
Sorry to hear that you biffed it today. Glad you're OK though!
We'll I'm getting into "winter training" mode which is going to put be back in the gym which I'm really looking forward to.
Quote from: djrashonal on November 22, 2010, 12:57:30 PM
...im gonna peer pressure you into it!
[laugh]
It's been awhile since I last checked this thread, but since the last time.. I ran my first half marathon at a nice slow (10m/m) and steady pace and felt great all along the way. Now I have my first full marathon coming up on Dec 5.
After the marathon, I'll be starting with my swim coach to start my journey into multi-sport. 2011's goal is the Austin 70.3 IM and eventual 140.6 IM in 2012.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on October 06, 2010, 10:06:33 AM
We're constantly twisting with medicine balls and resistance straps in Muay Thai... all the power in the art comes from the rotational motion, so you focus a lot on developing the oblique core muscles.
I've got a knucklhead MMA buddy that blasts on an old truck tire with a sledgehammer as a way to improve his twisting torque... search youtube for vids of The Pit Kempo training or of Kelly Pavlik training (please note - Kelly Pavlik is a pro boxer, not my knucklehead MMA buddy). Like this, about 1:20 in to the vid. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxMgUHB76Bo#normal)
I've got a couple cords of wood over here if you and your buddy want to come "train"
Just to update...
Completed my first full marathon this past Sunday. I finished the 26.2 in 5:20 (~12:14/m). I'm just happy about completing it since my training for it was less than ideal. Let's just say that I doubled my longest distance I've ever run.
No injuries, blisters, or dehydration to report from the marathon. I definitley felt the effects of the pounding the pavement yesterday and took the day off. Today, I actually feel good enough to ride on bicycle trainer to get rid of the remaining muscle soreness.
Hope everybody manages to stay in their routines throughout the holidays
Awesome! [thumbsup] [thumbsup] Congrats on doubling your distance - that's fantastic!!
I've never been much of a runner, but recently I've had to start running again for an eval that I have coming up. I give those who do run a lot of credit because frankly for me - it sucks. I should correct that - it doesn't suck, I just get bored and that sucks.
I haven't run in almost 2 years, but I've been heavy into cycling. So I anticipated that my cardiovascular system would be up to par, and figured my legs would be sore for a few days initially. I was right. LOL.So for my first day out, I went to a track at a local school, stretched and then decided to just threw all common sense to the wind and just run a timed mile to see how I'd do - 7m40sec was my time - so I was happy with that, but my legs are still sore and it's been 2 days!! [cheeky]
Congrats bryant8
I've had a love hate relationship with running all my life. I've done it all my life but never as an end in itself, but as training for something else like: wrestling, canoeing, skiing, or (now) for overall fitness. I come from a family of marathon runners and I think that someday I will do one myself. I've done several X-C ski marathons but I find the thought of a running marathon much more formidable.
Thank Dave and AK!
Running has never really been my thing either but it is a great way to keep in shape. I have a few half marathons I'm looking at registering for here in the DFW. I'm looking forward to getting back on the road bike or maybe a MTB trail here soon.
But first I'm taking a few weeks off to rest. This will be my first weekend in over a year I don't have an event to train for. I started training for the Solvang Century ride last November, then rolled right into Moab Century training, then into the White Rock Marathon. Well deserved break time [thumbsup]
Quote from: Mother on November 22, 2010, 11:58:48 PM
I've got a couple cords of wood over here if you and your buddy want to come "train"
I've been training to get back into shape and the rowing team for my last semester. I spent. Tday in NM with desmolu's family. I spent a morning chopping wood. HOLY SHIT I was sore the next day.
As part of my off season cycling training, I'm sticking with the running that I started two weeks ago. It's getting better (but I still hate running). My hip flexors no longer hurt and my time is holding just above a 7 minute mile. I'd really like to get down into the 5-6 minute mile times.
This weekend I started working on sprints as well. Since I was on a track I did several 110m sprints. Man are my hamstrings tender today!! I was trying to remember what was considered a "fast" time at those. With self timing and not using start blocks or cleats I ran the 110 in 15seconds flat. Anyone know where that falls on the slow-fast chart? ...seems to me that's close to what I used to run it in, but I was never an uber fast sprinter.
It was funny though - my heart went from 0-heartattack in about 2 seconds!! [cheeky]
The first few when starting training are always the hardest!!
I also got back on the bench for the first time in about 12 months at the gym and managed to crank out 3 sets ending with a set of 4 reps at 225lbs. After such a long hiatus, I was pretty happy with that.
Awesome job on the bench Dave! Not too sure about what good times are for the sprints, but I was wondering where tracks were in the area? Did you go to the U of A track, or somewhere else? Me and my buddy are gonna start a running regement today, and a track would be way better than sidewalks.
Quote from: djrashonal on December 13, 2010, 09:30:13 AM
Awesome job on the bench Dave! Not too sure about what good times are for the sprints, but I was wondering where tracks were in the area? Did you go to the U of A track, or somewhere else? Me and my buddy are gonna start a running regement today, and a track would be way better than sidewalks.
Thanks! Getting back into this routine has been a real challenge. For running I've been using local high school school tracks when I run. Most of them are open on Saturday's and some on Sundays. To the best of my knowledge the U doesn't have a track - which really baffles me.
When do you and your friend plan on running? The hardest part for me is running alone. So if you guys are interested in joining up sometime let me know. It might be fun to run some drills at a track too. [thumbsup]
9.58 was the fastest with averagee being around where your ate.. think that's for 100m dash though..
Quote from: cokey on December 13, 2010, 11:08:22 AM
9.58 was the fastest with averagee being around where your ate.. think that's for 100m dash though..
Wow that's fast.
I used to be a hurdler, so that's the distance that I ran for sprints. I'll try the 100m next time and retest my time. [thumbsup]
Hey all - it's the new year - what are your fitness resolutions?
I need to lose 10 to 15 pounds. They arrived last year and stayed.
My plan is portion control, no alcohol, and the 30 Day Shred dvd with Jillian Michaels. My goal is to work out with the dvd 5 days a week. I stated this morning.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 03, 2011, 10:22:17 AM
Hey all - it's the new year - what are your fitness resolutions?
Believe it or not, but I'm going to try to cut back on the bacon. :o
We've got a history of heart disease in my family. My dad had a heart attack 12 years ago, and his father died at the age of only 54. :(
Had a wake up call yesterday when the scale read 190lbs. I'm only 5'8"...
When I competed in gymnastics, I was 175lbs @ 3-5% body fat.
I know I'll never get there again, but if I can get down to 170-175 and 10-12% fat, I think I'll be able to carry more cornerspeed. ;D
[bacon]
Did my 3 miles today.
15-20 min on the trainer tomorrow.
A 2mi fun race in a couple weeks.
190.. thats my goal.. to get up to a solid 190.. i'm around 180-185, changes daily.. i'm only around 5 7... i hope i never see the 170s again..
Seems like no matter how hard you try, the holidays always seem to add a few lbs. I hate that. I'm a glutton for punishment. I love fresh made cookies...hell, my sweet tooth is a beast in and of itself. If it gets loose, I usually end up having serious eaters remorse.
I've always put the weight on faster than it comes off which also sucks. So since it's winter and too cold to be out on my road bike, I've been hitting the gym and doing a combo of weights and cardio. After training so long only on my road bike, it's nice to get a change of pace. I think that holds true for most workouts - variety is important for maintaining progress. I'm still running too - but finding much love for it. I'm down to a 7min mile though.
health greatly coincides with fitness....so here's a good lil article on some health facts...
http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/touching.makes.you.healthier.health/index.html?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/touching.makes.you.healthier.health/index.html?hpt=T2)
I've been looking at adopting some of the general principles of the Paleo diet into my everyday eating. I'm continuing to run when I'm not sidelined by injuries and baking in some Crossfit stuff into my gym time. Overall, I've been very happy with the results and have my second 5k race on the 29 Jan. Hoping to beat my previous time of 28:17, but a new school term may prevent adequate training.
I have lost 4 pounds in the past week! My SO says she can see the difference. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on January 10, 2011, 10:00:49 AM
I have lost 4 pounds in the past week! My SO says she can see the difference. [thumbsup]
That's awesome! Keep up the great work! I bet your SO is happy with the change - 4lbs can make a pretty significant difference in how you look! [thumbsup]
Went to the gym on Saturday and was feeling really good. I put up 405lbs at a 1 rep max; not too shabby for only weighing 160lbs. Best I've ever maxed at was 450lbs @ 4 reps.
I ran a timed mile after finishing my strength routine in exactly 7mins.
We went hiking on Sunday which was nice. There were lots of people on the mountain, but it was a lot of fun and a really nice day.
405#? What was the exercise. Squat, dead lift or bench that is a hell of a lot for a 160# dude!
Taught aerobics at 6 a.m.
3 miles on the treadmill at lunch
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 03, 2011, 10:22:17 AM
Hey all - it's the new year - what are your fitness resolutions?
Keeping up ;D
Though I'd like to hit the 50 pound mark for a 1 handed high-pull to overhead press with a kettle bell, while standing on one foot. I can do solid sets at 35 w/o falling over at the moment. 50 is going to make for a big challenge to control that momentum.
Quote from: akmnstr on January 10, 2011, 11:26:55 AM
405#? What was the exercise. Squat, dead lift or bench that is a hell of a lot for a 160# dude!
That was bench press weight. [thumbsup]
Quote from: dolci on January 10, 2011, 11:37:57 AM
Taught aerobics at 6 a.m.
3 miles on the treadmill at lunch
That's cool. How long have you been teaching aerobics?
QuoteThat was bench press weight. waytogo
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That's a lot of weight.. people alwats uave diff things they're stronger at.. bench wasn't my strong point.. back when I was 150 I was doing 270s on bench but I could squat 1000lbs, shoulder shrug over 400 and so on.. shoulders and tris are my upper body strong points. Lower, it's everything.
Quote from: cokey on January 10, 2011, 05:02:09 PM
but I could squat 1000lbs,
You must be the size of Kirk. :o
Kirk Karwowski - 1003 pound squat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0lF4lm3efA#normal)
Kirk Karwoski Squats 1,000x2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo1tU1YqPp0#normal)
Quote from: cokey on January 10, 2011, 05:02:09 PM
That's a lot of weight.. people alwats uave diff things they're stronger at.. bench wasn't my strong point.. back when I was 150 I was doing 270s on bench but I could squat 1000lbs, shoulder shrug over 400 and so on.. shoulders and tris are my upper body strong points. Lower, it's everything.
I've always had strong legs, but I've had a hard time finding exercises that I like to do to condition them. It wasn't until cycling that I really was pleased with my leg workouts. At the gym, thanks to having broad shoulders and a strong core, I have been able to build a strong upper body on smaller frame. I don't want to be some tree trunk that can't wipe his own rear end - so getting 'huge' was never a motivating point for me.
Without the gut..
Man I can't do it anymore. I haven't been to a gym in more then 4 years.. I was to start again this week but might not be able to spare the coin with my sons bday n the portrait tat I'm getting for my daughter. Looks like another month of pull ups n pushups.
Quote from: cokey on January 11, 2011, 07:35:40 AM
Man I can't do it anymore. I haven't been to a gym in more then 4 years.. I was to start again this week but might not be able to spare the coin with my sons bday n the portrait tat I'm getting for my daughter. Looks like another month of pull ups n pushups.
You'd be supervised at how much that actually helps you maintain your strength. Your son obviously comes first, and you should have no regrets about that. [thumbsup]
Quote from: cokey on January 11, 2011, 07:35:40 AM
Man I can't do it anymore. I haven't been to a gym in more then 4 years.. I was to start again this week but might not be able to spare the coin with my sons bday n the portrait tat I'm getting for my daughter. Looks like another month of pull ups n pushups.
No gym for me either since I moved to rural TX but I have a set of weights (got em for Xmas 45 years ago) with new bowflex variable dumbbells, and a pair of running shoes. It takes a little more motivation, but I've got all I need. I'm liking working out at home and by running around the block. My wife's my workout partner now so we keep each other motivated. Only problem is the aging process is reducing my potential to build strength and endurance. I can't (and never could) beat a 405 bench press at 60 but I can still put a whooping on a 7min mile.
Quote from: akmnstr on January 11, 2011, 09:34:53 AM
I can't (and never could) beat a 405 bench press at 60 but I can still put a whooping on a 7min mile.
[cheeky]
Ha nice.. 6 min miles or bust..
when i was 150lbs, my max bench was 290, however i could only squat 225, i never pushed to do more simply because i didnt want to have tree trunk sized legs since i swam and ran a lot.
Now i want to hit the gym and start fighting since i'm not really going ot school this semester and i realized if i want to compete on even an amature level, i need to hit the gym and get my legs and shoulder stronger.
I did Crossfit Grace @135 today and I'm whipped.
Just my opinion, but if you are serious about 'fighting' whatever type that my be, I don't prefer lifter's muscles. I think you want to train the muscle the way you intend to use it, which for me means a lot of bag work. I don't find that being lifting strong helps much in the ring.
Of course in total contradiction, I am coming back from from a nerve injury that caused total strength and feeling loss in my left arm and lifting has greatly reduced my recovery time and seemed to help get my strength back more quickly than any of the other methods I was using.
I'm starting to do a lot of bag work, and when i hit the pads with a partner, i feel like my kicks have no power at all. even though my partner says they are strong, it doenst feel strong and my legs are FAR from being as well developed as my upper body is.
the guys at my gym say that if you want more raw power you have to lift weights. but i dont want monsterous legs. i just want powerful legs that can last 3x5 rounds.
is there a way to do that? or would u say just go all out on the bags?
one thing that i HAVE to figure out how to do is get my obliques stronger. Your power punch and kick comes from your side abs and i think its more important to have a good core then powerful quads.
Quote from: He Man on January 11, 2011, 03:40:09 PM
the guys at my gym say that if you want more raw power you have to lift weights. but i dont want monsterous legs. i just want powerful legs that can last 3x5 rounds.
Stationary bike. Or StairMaster. Something that gets you winded like cardio, but gives you that deep burn in your thighs. Keep adding resistance/upping the level until you can only do 10 minutes at a time and build from there.
Quote from: He Man on January 11, 2011, 03:40:09 PM
I'm starting to do a lot of bag work, and when i hit the pads with a partner, i feel like my kicks have no power at all. even though my partner says they are strong, it doenst feel strong and my legs are FAR from being as well developed as my upper body is.
the guys at my gym say that if you want more raw power you have to lift weights. but i dont want monsterous legs. i just want powerful legs that can last 3x5 rounds.
is there a way to do that? or would u say just go all out on the bags?
one thing that i HAVE to figure out how to do is get my obliques stronger. Your power punch and kick comes from your side abs and i think its more important to have a good core then powerful quads.
Do CrossFit or Military Athlete workouts.
www.crossfit.com (//http://)
www.militaryathlete.com (//http://)
Quote from: He Man on January 11, 2011, 03:40:09 PM
I'm starting to do a lot of bag work, and when i hit the pads with a partner, i feel like my kicks have no power at all. even though my partner says they are strong, it doenst feel strong and my legs are FAR from being as well developed as my upper body is.
the guys at my gym say that if you want more raw power you have to lift weights. but i dont want monsterous legs. i just want powerful legs that can last 3x5 rounds.
is there a way to do that? or would u say just go all out on the bags?
one thing that i HAVE to figure out how to do is get my obliques stronger. Your power punch and kick comes from your side abs and i think its more important to have a good core then powerful quads.
One thing that was learned by the Soviets and the East Germans (besides how to get the most out of steroids) was that weight lifting in some form will improve performance in almost every sport. Absolute power lifting is not likely the thing. But I'm sure a weight workout has been developed for your sport. I wouldn't worry about getting tree like legs. You kick workouts will keep that from happening.
Ill try to look up some books for workouts.
Ill check out crossfit too. Ive tried to keep up with the workout of the day when I was younger but couldnt find the time to really commit to it. But now i have all the time in the world + free access to gym.
Quote from: He Man on January 12, 2011, 12:19:07 PM
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Ill check out crossfit too. Ive tried to keep up with the workout of the day when I was younger but couldnt find the time to really commit to it. But now i have all the time in the world + free access to gym.
CF translates well to fighting. When I'm doing weight training, that's what I do.
I'd ask your instructor if your kicks are really weak. Betcha a dollar they tell you the kicks are fine and ask you to improve something else. It just seems like that's always how it goes with me...
Well, I stand by saying to much lifting will cause muscle tightness that does not translate well into kicking and striking. You can use weights to strength train for any sport and you will see improvements, but it's obvious when it's too much. [thumbsup]
He Man - I agree, core connection and movement is esential to any fighting. Look at any type of fighter - boxer, MMA, traditional all move from the center and create power from the center/core. Any exercise you can incorporate hip twist and oblique connection is going to help both kicking and upper body techniques. Crossovers and straight arm torso twists are great for developing that type of power.
You can do side bends with weights.. start light highest id go with is 45lbs..
Registered for a 2mi forecast race on Sunday.
Winner is the one that finishes closes to his/her predicted finish time.
No time/gps devices allowed and no clocks on course.
I predicted my time at 18:47. It was a huge shot in the dark as I haven't run a timed event in almost a year.
I'll let you know how close I get.
Good luck! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Race was this morning.
It was a balmy 10 with a wind chill just under 0.
The course was snowy and slow (think sand). >:(
I finished in 19:46. Less than a minute off my predicted time. [thumbsup]
I'm happy.
Congrats on coming in so close to your projected time!
I've been sick since Friday, the sitting around is killing me. I think I'll be ready to return to my routine this week - whatever I had has gradually downgraded over the past few days and turned into a cold.
I hate getting sick. :-\
you can do super sets.. where say you do curls for a set then with out rest go straight to tris for a set then with out rest go to shoulders with out rest etc.. it's like cardio weight lifting.. keeps ya heart pumping and muscles going.. it's a great work out.. also cuts down your time in the gym significantly..
Quote from: He Man on January 11, 2011, 03:40:09 PM
I'm starting to do a lot of bag work, and when i hit the pads with a partner, i feel like my kicks have no power at all. even though my partner says they are strong, it doenst feel strong and my legs are FAR from being as well developed as my upper body is.
the guys at my gym say that if you want more raw power you have to lift weights. but i dont want monsterous legs. i just want powerful legs that can last 3x5 rounds.
is there a way to do that? or would u say just go all out on the bags?
one thing that i HAVE to figure out how to do is get my obliques stronger. Your power punch and kick comes from your side abs and i think its more important to have a good core then powerful quads.
The power for punching or kicking does not come from your obliques in any significant way. It comes from the ability to produce power through hip rotation. While core and even some upper body strength is useful, more than anything you need to develop posterior chain strength/power and than learn to transfer it through rotation into sport specific movement. Posterior chain strength can be accomplished with various exercises, including, romanian deadlifts, stiff-legged deadlifts, box squats, weighted good mornings, glute-ham raises, one-legged (weighted) hyper extensions, and a number of other exercises. The transfer of power through rotation basically takes repition, repition and than more repetition of perfect form of the desired movement.
You can try crossfit if you like, and it's a fine workout if the crossfit games are your goal, but despite the claims, there is very little carryover to fighting skills or generalized power, for that matter. For that to occur, crossfit would have to defy the laws of specificity which is assuredly does not. You can tailor some crossfit routines to particular sports with some success, but inefficiently. Simply put, a random routine (the definition of CF) does not compare to a specific goal oriented, periodized program.
Wrong, crossfit workouts are far more effective than just use for the games, suck it up and train the system for a year...a year, then report back. Most folks don't have the balls.
Quote from: pitbull on January 19, 2011, 04:37:49 PM
The power for punching or kicking does not come from your obliques in any significant way. It comes from the ability to produce power through hip rotation. While core and even some upper body strength is useful, more than anything you need to develop posterior chain strength/power and than learn to transfer it through rotation into sport specific movement. Posterior chain strength can be accomplished with various exercises, including, romanian deadlifts, stiff-legged deadlifts, box squats, weighted good mornings, glute-ham raises, one-legged (weighted) hyper extensions, and a number of other exercises. The transfer of power through rotation basically takes repition, repition and than more repetition of perfect form of the desired movement.
you're 100% right about hip rotation. All our power comes from rotating the hip but your hip rotation power comes from your core doesnt it? After hours kicking punching kneeing and what not, the more sore part of my body is always my obliques and quads.
Quote from: He Man on January 21, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
you're 100% right about hip rotation. All our power comes from rotating the hip but your hip rotation power comes from your core doesnt it? After hours kicking punching kneeing and what not, the more sore part of my body is always my obliques and quads.
Most of the power comes from your legs and is transferred through to the upper body via the hips. The breakdown is something like 78% from the lower body and 22% from the upper body.
Core training is the new gimmick at the moment. If you're squatting and deadlifting you will develop "core" (abdominal and lower back) strength far more than set after set of all the targeted core exercises combined.
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 21, 2011, 08:12:13 PM
Wrong, crossfit workouts are far more effective than just use for the games, suck it up and train the system for a year...a year, then report back. Most folks don't have the balls.
Yeah....no
if that were so, all the top power athletes in the world would be using crossfit and with the exception of a handful of mma guys here an there and a few other delusional athletes, nobody.............let me repeat..........virtually no top atheltes are using the system.
There's a reason for that............it's random, unsystematic and simply does a number of things decently and absolutely nothing really, really well.
other than get athletes hurt
"Athletes" will always get injured. So you believe one system is the cause of that? I have been a CrossFit instructor for 4 years, I have never injured an "Athlete"
The problem in any training system is lack of knowledge by said "Instructor" Injury is part of sport.
I think that it's important to define some of the terms that you are all using in order to avoid devaluing the opinions that each of you share.
How do you define an athlete in the context of this conversation? Is it someone who workout above a certain level or is it a professional sports player?
How do you measure and define the 'effective' nature of cross training? ie caloric burn, cardiovascular improvement, etc...
What are the causes of injury that are being cited as hurting athletes? Injury is a hard point to argue unless substantiated by specific examples.
[thumbsup]
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 23, 2011, 09:22:19 PM
The problem in any training system is lack of knowledge by said "Instructor" Injury is part of sport.
And to add to that - I have been teach dance/aerobics since 2004; I can repeat the same instructions in every class and even come down off the stage and correct someone's movements and they will continue to do it incorrectly.
The Instructor needs to know what they are doing and the student needs to be willing to shut up and listen.
Quote from: dolci on January 24, 2011, 06:24:29 AM
The Instructor needs to know what they are doing and the student needs to be willing to shut up and listen.
[thumbsup] [clap]
After another hiatus from this thread a quick update...
I almost have my complete 2011 schedule figured out and my training towards 70.3 is starting to roll. A few more weeks into my prep stage and then I start my base stages.
I have 3 (5k/duathlon/10k) events in February to work towards and use as benchmarks for my A/B races. First B race (13.1) is in the end of March.
To join in the crossfit convo, I was thinking of joining a crossfit gym that has an endurance emphasis to it to enhance my training outside of run/bike/swim.
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 23, 2011, 09:22:19 PM
"Athletes" will always get injured. So you believe one system is the cause of that? I have been a CrossFit instructor for 4 years, I have never injured an "Athlete"
The problem in any training system is lack of knowledge by said "Instructor" Injury is part of sport.
you sure?...............considering many crossfit workouts are an introduction to shoulder impingement hell, I would not be surprised if many of the people you train are suffering over use or nagging injuries caused by the improper form inherent in many crossfit exercises.
It's a big part of the reason the military is now forbidding cf as part of their PT program due to the huge number of injuries.
I see it with the guys on our fire department who have been doing cf for a number of years now......most of them are suffering injuries that were preventable with porper forum. Most of them have stepped away fro the CF koolaid.
FWIW, I don't hate CF and if a lot of the stupid ideas and exercises are left out, it can be a good workout for general fitness and keeping people interested. It can accomplish at lot of fitness goals well, just to a very limited degree.
and yes, I've done many crossfit workouts for fun and many of them were indeed diffuicult, however, lets be clear........difficult doesn't mean great results.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 24, 2011, 06:17:13 AM
I think that it's important to define some of the terms that you are all using in order to avoid devaluing the opinions that each of you share.
How do you define an athlete in the context of this conversation? Is it someone who workout above a certain level or is it a professional sports player?
How do you measure and define the 'effective' nature of cross training? ie caloric burn, cardiovascular improvement, etc...
What are the causes of injury that are being cited as hurting athletes? Injury is a hard point to argue unless substantiated by specific examples.
[thumbsup]
I'm gonna say high level athlete........... a professional or olympic caliber athlete. If CF was a workout that truly was the best for making atheles stronger, faster, and more powerful, most high caliber athletes would be using it. Outside of a handful of MMA guys, it's just not happening.
that doesn't mean it can't be a decent workout for the average joe, just not a very efficient one if particular goals are intended
Pitbul, the key is proper form. You can't just jump into power or Olympic lifts without proper training.
Most folks try and jump right in to CF workouts, when the program clearly states not to do this.
People will not even take the time to read all of this info on the website. Much less reading "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe.
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 24, 2011, 02:25:36 PM
Pitbul, the key is proper form. You can't just jump into power or Olympic lifts without proper training.
Most folks try and jump right in to CF workouts, when the program clearly states not to do this.
People will not even take the time to read all of this info on the website. Much less reading "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe.
no disagreement which is exactly my issue with CF. Many of the olympic lifts and balistic movements are done with high reps, often to failure which makes maintaining proper form impossible even among those who are experts at the technique. There is a reason real olympic lifters don't do high rep training and rarely approaches failure.........because it leads to technical breakdown and injury.
Rip's 'starting strength' is indeed an excellent book .
Quote from: pitbull on January 24, 2011, 04:03:53 PM
no disagreement which is exactly my issue with CF. Many of the olympic lifts and balistic movements are done with high reps, often to failure which makes maintaining proper form impossible even among those who are experts at the technique. There is a reason real olympic lifters don't do high rep training and rarely approaches failure.........because it leads to technical breakdown and injury.
Rip's 'starting strength' is indeed an excellent book .
It's important to remember that people train by certain methods in order to meet specific goals that they have for themselves. Just as dieting must be customized to the person, so must training programs. What works for me won't work for you and what works for you won't work for the next person (in the same way - meaning you can't carpet bomb 'athelets' with cross fit training and expect them to profit from it without the proper program guidance).
The bottom line is that there are LOTS of ways to get stronger, faster, and leaner. It all boils down to the individual and his/her preferences along with thier level of commitment to said program. [thumbsup]
I walked up one extra flight of stairs today. and had one less vodka tonic after dinner.
Quote from: Statler on January 24, 2011, 05:09:48 PM
I walked up one extra flight of stairs today. and had one less vodka tonic after dinner.
Pace yourself. You don't want to get a cramp. ;D
Quote from: Statler on January 24, 2011, 05:09:48 PM
I walked up one extra flight of stairs today. and had one less vodka tonic after dinner.
:D [drink]
Wrong again pitbull, O litters do multiple lifts with light weight to perfect form.
I haven't consciously, maybe unconsciously, exercised since high school.
You guys are working too hard. ;)
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 24, 2011, 04:19:44 PM
It's important to remember that people train by certain methods in order to meet specific goals that they have for themselves. Just as dieting must be customized to the person, so must training programs. What works for me won't work for you and what works for you won't work for the next person (in the same way - meaning you can't carpet bomb 'athelets' with cross fit training and expect them to profit from it without the proper program guidance).
The bottom line is that there are LOTS of ways to get stronger, faster, and leaner. It all boils down to the individual and his/her preferences along with thier level of commitment to said program. [thumbsup]
Which is exactly why I say there is some useful application for CF. If the dangerous exercises are removed from the program and the ballistic movements are not done to failure, it can be a very good program for overall, general fitness.
But don't forget, my original issue in this thread was in regards to CF being reccomended as a good training program for a fighter. If modified correctly, it could be a useful supplement to fight training, although certainly not the most efficient.
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 24, 2011, 05:47:39 PM
Wrong again pitbull, O litters do multiple lifts with light weight to perfect form.
vary rarely do competitive o-lifters do high reps in ballistic lifts, however, when they do it's with, as you said, light weights to train form and never, ever to the point of failure or to the point of form breaking down. Before there is even a hint of form breaking down, the lift is terminated.
That is very different to CF in which trainees are encouraged to take ballistic movements to the point of failure and well beyond the point of good form, not only drastically increasing the risk of injury, but neurologically ingraining bad technique.
Pit,
Not that I'm arguing either fore or against your point, I'm just wondering if you're ranting towards a specific point. I know that you said CF is not the most 'efficient' means of training a fighter - bud did I miss where you suggested what the most effective training is that you've been exposed to yourself or one with which you are familiar?
Y'all need to go back to the SERIOUS fitness thread.
I just did 5 miles on the elliptical. Wearing bacon and egg socks made all the difference in my form.
^ [laugh]
Nice [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 25, 2011, 09:25:27 AM
Pit,
Not that I'm arguing either fore or against your point, I'm just wondering if you're ranting towards a specific point. I know that you said CF is not the most 'efficient' means of training a fighter - bud did I miss where you suggested what the most effective training is that you've been exposed to yourself or one with which you are familiar?
I mentioned the power component and exercises one would want to do to increase posterior chain strength and power in my first post, I believe. In addition to those strength/power movents some ballistic and plyometric movements could be added. In regards to conditioning, most research suggests interval work that would mimic the work/ratio of the given event in as sports specific fashion, as possible, would be most effiecient. Research also suggests that overall aerobic capacity is neccessary even for anaerobic sports.
The bigger issue, of course, is the vastly superior results attained through a systematic, periodized program that works towards a very specific goal, which crossfit, is by definition, the very opposite of.
Again, CF is a great generalized program, when done safely, to help an individual improve, strength and fitness, but it as a randomized workout program, it is not meant to improve performance quickly and efficiently for high level or elite athletes.
Elliptical, jogging, weights. Not necessarily in that order or all in the same sitting. I want to be a little less round.
JM
Mmm... Post-workout shower beers...
[drink]
Pitbull, what system do you use to train your "Athletes"?
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 25, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
Pitbull, what system do you use to train your "Athletes"?
Well, when I was an active S&C coach for a university football team, we originally used a traditional, western style linear periodization model of micro and macro cycles starting with a strength endurance phase and transitioning through hypertrophy, absolute strength, and finally to a power phase, while simultaneously working through phases of energy systems work with an eye to hitting a conditioning peak at season's beginning.
However, with newer research we found that undulating periodization programs appeared to be a more successful and efficient approach and found that to be true when we incorporated it. We therefore re-structured our macro-cycles around 8 week blocks, targeting all phases simultaneously, with 1 week de-loading and active rest at the end of each 8 weeks.
I'm no longer a paid S&C coach and have worked as a full-time firefighter for the last 17 years. I am, however a certified trainer (not that any certificate is good for anything other than insurance), training and advising fellow firefighters as a peer fitness councelor.
As for systems, you name it, I've tried it (outside of a few obviously inane programs) I've been involved very deeply with health, fitness and performance training for over 25 years and spend a little to a lot of time each and every day reading research and resources that pertain to performance training. I've read every decent training book ever written and been to more performance based seminars and symposiums than any sane individual should ever care to be interested in. I spend each morning trolling pubmed for the latest performance and nutrition research and correspond with a small number of excellent performance experts who are better at interpreting much of the research than I am........although I think I've developed a decent skill for it.
Basically, up until fairly recently, I'm embarrased to admit that performance training and nutrition was about my only major interest and I've spent way too many years engrossed in it completely. Over the last few years I've begun to establish some balance in my life and develop other hobbies and rediscover old interests.........like motorcycles.
i recently finished reading the triathlete's training bible and its pretty similar to the undulating cycles of loading/de-loading that pitbull mentions and rarely includes working to the failure/exhaustion point (only in the case of race testing). the benefit of working to failure and increased injury risk is far outweighed by the planned incremental improvement and recovery.
another aspect that the ttb stressed was that fitness is improved during rest/recovery and not through your workout. your body takes damage during your workout and requires rest and proper nutrition to regain that fitness and improve. i think this is the biggest thing that people overlook. *edit* not to mention, rest is toughest thing for fitness focused people to do for fear of losing fitness.
Pitbull, if there are CF trainers pushing people to do max O lifts, they are wrong as two boys make the beast with two backsing. The technique and form need to be perfected to a degree long before any of those lifts are performed. Once again we go back to the basics of the system.
You need to be properly trained, as all my "athletes" are before they are allowed to pull any real weight.
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 25, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
Pitbull, if there are CF trainers pushing people to do max O lifts, they are wrong as two boys make the beast with two backsing. The technique and form need to be perfected to a degree long before any of those lifts are performed. Once again we go back to the basics of the system.
You need to be properly trained, as all my "athletes" are before they are allowed to pull any real weight.
Well, originally CF was teaching and training olympic lifts to high reps and to failure which, regardless of technique is going to lead to breakdown as an individual approaches failure. I'm sure they are starting to back off on that somewhat do to the number of lawsuits related to trainees suffering rhadbomyolysis after being pushed far too hard. And before you suggest that it only occurs in week individuals, I see a news feed today mentioning 12 University of Iowa football players being hospitalized for rhabdomyolysis after an intense workout.
Look, lets be clear, the overwhelming majority of CF trainers are truly f*#king horrible and most of the CF gyms are simply throwing random nonsense at trainneees hoping they get something out of it. If it sounds like it's a bit of a personal issue with CF trainers, I do. A good friend of mine (fellow firefighter) died of a heart attack after his first CF workout 2 weeks ago. He was trained by fellow firefighters who were CF certified. I will now make sure CF has no place, ever in our department. I had issues with it before this incident. Now it's a done deal and I will be quite happy when CF dies the death it eventually will when most of the gyms go out of business. I'm sure it will remain among a small group of devotees who will use it effectively and that is perfectly fine.
As for you, I will take you at your word that you are a good trainer who always teaches the lifts properly, never injures his trainees and never pushes anyone to failure and beyond their ability or fitness level, endangering their health. You however wouuld be among the small minority of CF trainers.
Is this Cross Fit rant over yet? It's been 3 pages now. After having been harangued myself for being too serious in this thread, someone needs to have MrIncredible change the thread title to the "I'm the know it all about Cross Fit training thread"
END OF LINE.
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 25, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
they are wrong as two boys make the beast with two backsing.
Only wrong to hetro guys. :-*
I've looked at some cross fit stuff. Some of it looks good some of it i wouldnt want to try. Ill take what I can get (especially the calisthenic workouts)....
So back onto working out ( I havent asked my instructor about what muscle groups to work out because he just says kick the shit out of the bag)
But what muscle groups would be best worked out for kicks, and building up the obliques to resist kicks. I've added side crunches added with leg raises, medicine balls, overhanging leg raises so far. I dont like side raises...just not into them. I only have bands at home, but since the semester is starting soon ill have gym access in about 2 weeks.
I've always found that core strength really makes a difference in martial arts.
But if you want to build brute force, Zian says "kick the tree"
(http://www.mickhalpin.com/images/kickboxer.jpg)
[cheeky]
We would use the wood post in the basement holding up the building wrapped in carpet... fun times..
For striking, we used to train with a makiwara board just like this:
(http://www.bushifitness.com/images/Makiwara1.gif)
I still have my makiwara bolted to my deck, though I seldom train with it anymore. I don't think there is much value in makiwara except for developing determination, I am going to hit this thing 500 times. It's great for hip rotation and connection training at the expense of your hand/arm joints though.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 26, 2011, 07:09:04 AM
Is this Cross Fit rant over yet? It's been 3 pages now. After having been harangued myself for being too serious in this thread, someone needs to have MrIncredible change the thread title to the "I'm the know it all about Cross Fit training thread"
END OF LINE.
nothing would make me happier than to never hear crossfit discussed or even mentioned again [thumbsup]
Quote from: He Man on January 26, 2011, 07:36:10 AM
I've looked at some cross fit stuff. Some of it looks good some of it i wouldnt want to try. Ill take what I can get (especially the calisthenic workouts)....
So back onto working out ( I havent asked my instructor about what muscle groups to work out because he just says kick the shit out of the bag)
But what muscle groups would be best worked out for kicks, and building up the obliques to resist kicks. I've added side crunches added with leg raises, medicine balls, overhanging leg raises so far. I dont like side raises...just not into them. I only have bands at home, but since the semester is starting soon ill have gym access in about 2 weeks.
Again, developing your posterior chain will give you the most bang for your buck in regards to strength training for increased kicking power. Muscles don't work in isolation so isolation work (training muscle groups), while fine for bodybuilders, will be of much less value for someone attempting to improve power and performance. To convert strength and exercise developed power into kicking power, only repetition after repetition of kicking will accomplish that.
The ab and oblique exercises you mentioned will do just fine for helping you resist kicks.
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If I had a choice (over more conventional routines), I'd do this in a heartbeat:
Spartacus: Blood and Sand - Gladiator Camp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1NClmbml6s#normal)
Spartacus: Gods of the Arena - Gladiator Camp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT2DSSW56tI#normal)
If it's good enough for the area, it's good enough for me!! [bow_down]
www.dogbrothers.com (//http://)
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 26, 2011, 08:10:24 PM
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now this is something I would be in complete agreement with
A real deal "gladiator camp".
certainly the best in the western hemisphere.
The dogbrothers example (while physically challenging) is farther removed from "getting fit" than it is from competition/UFC.
Quote from: Monster Dave on January 27, 2011, 05:13:24 AM
The dogbrothers example (while physically challenging) is farther removed from "getting fit" than it is from competition/UFC.
If a person's definition of "getting fit" is improved aerobic and anaerobic fitness, than few types of training accomplish this better than grappling and fight training.
However, in terms of strength, I would agree, fight training alone would not contribute significantly to increased strength and hypertrophy.
From a functional standpoint, dogbrother type training would actually give you a real world defensive skill unlike most martial arts.
If you look at martial arts, most of them are highly complex and requires years of study to perfect because aside from being a form of fighting, it is also a lifestyle and art in itself.
The most successful fighting systems for sport purposes, which is like a NFL Season game vs the Pro Bowl, are designed to express talent based on a specific system. There are rules and regulations.
So when you look at Martial arts as a type of self defense, it helps, but its not the main goal. Muay Thai BJJ Akido TKD, all of thes fighting systems are more sport oriented then anything else. None of them are geared toward street fighting, some of it is applicable, but most of it is geared towards ring fighting.
the dogbrother training seems like its specifically geared to self defense, somewhat similar to the idea behind Krav Maga. Too bad they dont have any classes here in NYC. I'd love to learn some of that stuff.
All this thread activity has got me thinking about my routine and as of lunch today, I mapped out a whole new routine to integrate into my current activity which includes 10 new exercises.
Thanks guys for the motivation! [thumbsup]
is that what you're taking heman?
Nah Im a Muay Thai Guy. Been doing it for about 2 years now and since I cant go to school this semester (huge bullshit at my school,basically because my last name starts with an H, i was forced to register at the last minute and couldnt get into any classes...all that anger needs to go somewhere) im going to focus on competing. I'd like to have atleast one fight by August. Will give me about 4 months to really learn clinch and focus on what I am strong and weak in then do a 3 month prep for the fight.
Your last names he huh.. yea mines an R... I remember those times.. good luck man.. where at maybe I can watch the fight...
Signed up today for a 8 wk strength training class with our local strongman competitor/personal trainer.
Not really sure what I'm in for. I know I'll be sore.
First post in a long time (just graduated college).
Heman: You should check out the local FMA gyms in NYC, Sayoc Kali is pretty good.
To get back on topic, I've just bought a Shwinn Hybrid bike with plans to do a century ride by october. I've kept true to my last years resolution to keep on doing Judo and am currently a green belt (blue by April). I absolutely love Judo, and with my shodan in shotokan karate, I feel like a well rounded martial artist. I've gone up against purple belt BJJ'rs and was throwing them around at will. Of course...they would tap me out rather quickly if I end up in their guard.
That's about it for me...I hope to stay motivated using this thread, their is always good stuff from this thread.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on January 29, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
Signed up today for a 8 wk strength training class with our local strongman competitor/personal trainer.
Not really sure what I'm in for. I know I'll be sore.
good for you.........I bet you get a lot out of it and quick
Quote from: DesmoDiva on January 29, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
Signed up today for a 8 wk strength training class with our local strongman competitor/personal trainer.
Not really sure what I'm in for. I know I'll be sore.
Just remember to tell yourself when you're really sore that "pain is just weakness leaving the body".
That might help...probably not, but it might. [cheeky]
In all seriousness though - awesome [thumbsup]
It sort of helps.....
Just got off the bike...relatively easy 30 min.
It was REALLY hard to force myself to get on. When I crawled out of bed this morning it felt like I was going to break into pieces.
Hoping the bike will help loosen things up and work some of the lactic acid out.
Now on a 40/40/20 nutrition plan and calories cut waaay back to 1495/day. I think it's a little low, but he's the "expert."
Only time will tell.......
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 01, 2011, 11:07:54 AM
It sort of helps.....
Just got off the bike...relatively easy 30 min.
It was REALLY hard to force myself to get on. When I crawled out of bed this morning it felt like I was going to break into pieces.
Hoping the bike will help loosen things up and work some of the lactic acid out.
Now on a 40/40/20 nutrition plan and calories cut waaay back to 1495/day. I think it's a little low, but he's the "expert."
Only time will tell.......
1500 calories a day (depending on your size and weight) isn't too horribly low if you're not killing yourself in the gym and doing too much conditioning work.
If you're doing long and high volume strength training sessions along with several long conditioning sessions a week you'll soon suffer central nervous system fatigue and overtraining, stalling and possibly reversing hard earned progres.
1500? Some times that's one of my meals.. how much do you way?
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 01, 2011, 11:07:54 AM
Just got off the bike...relatively easy 30 min.
It was REALLY hard to force myself to get on. When I crawled out of bed this morning it felt like I was going to break into pieces.
I know how you're feeling. I struggled again this morning to get up early (and ultimately reset my alarm and didn't get up). I'm going to give it my all tomorrow though. I workout daily after work, but feel that an additional AM workout (2-3 days a week) would have great results not to mention get my day started out better.
The hardest part is getting to the gym by 5am (which I have yet to see happen). Ironically though, when the sun is up at 5am I have no trouble getting up and rolling on my bicycle for a training ride by 4:30am.
...it's
got to be the darkness....I'm sure of it!! [cheeky]
Did my new routine today at the gym after work. After a long and ultimatly crappy day at work, it sure felt good to workout.
The new routine is brutal - largely because it's so different from what I'm used to doing, but I burned more than 2x the calories that I regularly burned and my heart rate hit 175. By the time I was done I felt good but also felt like I was going to throwup. [cheeky]
So back to what I said about a morning workout....I'm having doubts about making it to the gym at 5am....but we'll see!
Having 11 others and my trainer waiting is the only thing that gets me there for 5:30am.
That and it the only free time in my day. :P
my shin is in a lot of pain right now. :(
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 01, 2011, 04:55:05 PM
Having 11 others and my trainer waiting is the only thing that gets me there for 5:30am.
That would help me in the early AM...again it didn't happen. I slept like a log and needed every minute that I got for recovery from yesterday's workout!!
Quote from: He Man on February 02, 2011, 01:19:58 AM
my shin is in a lot of pain right now. :(
From kicking down the tree? [cheeky]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 02, 2011, 06:19:36 AM
From kicking down the tree? [cheeky]
Jean Claude Van Dam style! took today off just because my shin hurts that much.
He Man, it's good to know when to take time off - kicking down a tree can take it out of you for sure!! Besides, we wouldn't want you to turn into She-ra because you didn't listen to your body and rest when you needed it! [cheeky]
My new routine is out well, I can already see and feel results. Yesterday I returned to doing pull-ups and ramped up my back and triceps routine as well. Today is an intensity focused routine (done 3x per week), with some burnout exercises with weights.
Workout the morning was probably hardest ever.....
I almost cried and puked. :-[
Just keep telling myself, each time will get a little easier.
I puked at Crew practice sometimes and always after a race.
I gain about 15 lbs every winter from all the holiday food and the cold weather preventing me to do my thing on my bicycle. so the goal is to get rid of the extra poundage before spring gets here.
Ive gotten rid of 5 lbs so far by just doin some spinnin on my turbo trainers at least 5 times a week.
10 more to go.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on February 03, 2011, 07:47:13 AM
Workout the morning was probably hardest ever.....
I almost cried and puked. :-[
Just keep telling myself, each time will get a little easier.
That reminds me of my High School wrestling workouts way back when. They taught me the most important lesson that I learned at high school and that is, "when I think I have reached my limits and I am sure I have no more, I am capable of much more." Maybe I used have used "we" instead of "I." It is a lesson that has saved my life more than once. I once spent a November rainy night hanging from a cliff and it was that lesson that kept me alive.
Quote from: akmnstr on February 03, 2011, 10:08:00 AM
That reminds me of my High School wrestling workouts way back when. They taught me the most important lesson that I learned at high school and that is, "when I think I have reached my limits and I am sure I have no more, I am capable of much more." Maybe I used have used "we" instead of "I." It is a lesson that has saved my life more than once. I once spent a November rainy night hanging from a cliff and it was that lesson that kept me alive.
ok, you have to elaborate on that one.
Okay, here is the abbreviated version of the story. I was on a whitewater kayaking trip on the Little North Santiam River in OR. It was a first descent so we didn't know what we what each rapid was like. Near the end of the trip we came to an unexpected canyon. I paddled down into the canyon first and eddied out just above a waterfall. I soon discovered there was no way to scout the fall or portage because of steep canyon walls. I attempted to get back upstream to the beginning of the canyon where I could get out. I was nearly successful in eddy hoping to the top of the canyon but just as I was almost there, I was washed back downstream. I was soon pinned upside down against the canyon wall and couldn't roll back up. I did a wet exit and was able to swim back to the last eddy above the falls. From there I realized I was stuck, now without a boat. I attempted to free climb out of the canyon and made it about 100 feet above the river but could get no further. I found a tiny ledge that i could barely stand on just as it was getting dark. My friends went for help. I spent the cold rainy night on the cliff. Rescue came at dawn. I was never so close to death and with plenty of time to think about it. It was my brand new dry-suit (paddlers had just begun using them) and the lesson learned as a HS wrestler that kept me alive. I had a lot to live for. At the time, my wife was carrying my daughter and I wanted to live to see her.
Quote from: akmnstr on February 03, 2011, 11:20:22 AM
Okay, here is the abbreviated version of the story. I was on a whitewater kayaking trip on the Little North Santiam River in OR. It was a first descent so we didn't know what we what each rapid was like. Near the end of the trip we came to an unexpected canyon. I paddled down into the canyon first and eddied out just above a waterfall. I soon discovered there was no way to scout the fall or portage because of steep canyon walls. I attempted to get back upstream to the beginning of the canyon where I could get out. I was nearly successful in eddy hoping to the top of the canyon but just as I was almost there, I was washed back downstream. I was soon pinned upside down against the canyon wall and couldn't roll back up. I did a wet exit and was able to swim back to the last eddy above the falls. From there I realized I was stuck, now without a boat. I attempted to free climb out of the canyon and made it about 100 feet above the river but could get no further. I found a tiny ledge that i could barely stand on just as it was getting dark. My friends went for help. I spent the cold rainy night on the cliff. Rescue came at dawn. I was never so close to death and with plenty of time to think about it. It was my brand new dry-suit (paddlers had just begun using them) and the lesson learned as a HS wrestler that kept me alive. I knew I had there was a reserve of strength and will to make it, when it felt like I had no more. I had a lot to live for. At the time, my wife was carrying my daughter and I wanted to live to see her.
...wow - now there's a story to tell your daughter one day. [thumbsup]
I Want To Be a Bodybuilder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CrLECXeBBQ&feature=player_embedded#normal)
...sort of helps keep things in perspective.... [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: akmnstr on February 03, 2011, 11:20:22 AM
Okay, here is the abbreviated version of the story. I was on a whitewater kayaking trip on the Little North Santiam River in OR. It was a first descent so we didn't know what we what each rapid was like. Near the end of the trip we came to an unexpected canyon. I paddled down into the canyon first and eddied out just above a waterfall. I soon discovered there was no way to scout the fall or portage because of steep canyon walls. I attempted to get back upstream to the beginning of the canyon where I could get out. I was nearly successful in eddy hoping to the top of the canyon but just as I was almost there, I was washed back downstream. I was soon pinned upside down against the canyon wall and couldn't roll back up. I did a wet exit and was able to swim back to the last eddy above the falls. From there I realized I was stuck, now without a boat. I attempted to free climb out of the canyon and made it about 100 feet above the river but could get no further. I found a tiny ledge that i could barely stand on just as it was getting dark. My friends went for help. I spent the cold rainy night on the cliff. Rescue came at dawn. I was never so close to death and with plenty of time to think about it. It was my brand new dry-suit (paddlers had just begun using them) and the lesson learned as a HS wrestler that kept me alive. I had a lot to live for. At the time, my wife was carrying my daughter and I wanted to live to see her.
Amazing survival story, hokey pete! Glad you're here!!!
Quote from: Stella on February 04, 2011, 02:36:17 PM
Amazing survival story, hokey pete! Glad you're here!!!
That's about the best story I've got. I'm very glad to be around to tell it. I remember the first time I told it to my
daughter. I remember the expression on her face. She had no idea it had happened and that she had a roll even before she was born.
Since this is the fitness thread I must add that my level of fitness had much to do with my survival. I had just quit Kayak racing because of the coming of my daughter. I had been doing 2 or 3 workouts a day for about 4 years.
thats one crazy story dude. :-X
The limit of the human body is reached when your dead. otherwise youll keep on fighting.
AK: Awesome story! [beer]
After meeting with my Army recruiter, I ran all my errands on my bike. Now i'm gearing up to roll at judo practice, I would cycle there but i'm so beat after practice, it would be hell to ride back.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 08, 2011, 01:27:11 PM
After meeting with my Army recruiter, I ran all my errands on my bike. Now i'm gearing up to roll at judo practice, I would cycle there but i'm so beat after practice, it would be hell to ride back.
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Excuses like that won't fly with an Army Drill Sargent!! [cheeky]
Today will be back, triceps, abs, and shoulders for me. Less than an hour until I get outta the office and head to the gym to burn off the stress of my work day. I always feel better after a good workout!
Mock PRT time again. [puke]
Holy f*ck, where did that <10 minute mile and a half come from? :o :o
I've never run one of those before. Ever! :D
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 08, 2011, 01:41:14 PM
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Excuses like that won't fly with an Army Drill Sargent!! [cheeky]
Today will be back, triceps, abs, and shoulders for me. Less than an hour until I get outta the office and head to the gym to burn off the stress of my work day. I always feel better after a good workout!
Doh...I knew I was going to get called out lol.
Ok new excuse...last time I got put into a knee bar, so that would make it hard to cycle home.... [thumbsup]
But seriously...I'm looking at bootcamp in fort benning, followed by ocs...I better man up. [cheeky]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 08, 2011, 01:41:14 PM
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Excuses like that won't fly with an Army Drill Sargent!! [cheeky]
Today will be back, triceps, abs, and shoulders for me. Less than an hour until I get outta the office and head to the gym to burn off the stress of my work day. I always feel better after a good workout!
That is a Marine Corps Drill Instructor. Never ever confuse the two, ever. [roll]
^ what he said. Notice that scary black Eagle Globe and Anchor.
and 1.5miles? dont be a wussy. Do a 3 miler, but before that do a 5 mile warm up.
PFT! or PRT or watever the hell you wanna call it. Just run damn it!
Ive been consistently running at 6:33 pace and feel great. I can kick it up to a 6min/mile but its tough to maintain it.
Also, I took some time off Muay Thai ( 2 weeks) due to a nagging toe injury. Im doing a lot of weight lifting right now and I've found the Dead Lift. It is the most manly workout in the world. I'm doing 3 sets of 12 reps with 135lbs. Should I stick with this weight until i build up strength? or should i Move up?
When i Do squats i have pain in this area sometimes. Even if its a body squat. No idea why. any conclusions? its only the left leg. on the inside part of hte tendon.
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/165/kneetendonitisquadricep.jpg)
Quote from: He Man on February 08, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
and 1.5miles? dont be a wussy. Do a 3 miler, but before that do a 5 mile warm up.
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That's the distance required for the Navy's semi-annual Physical Readiness Test. I ended up running 3 total (there and back), but only 1.5 was timed. I typically run 3-5 miles a couple of times a week, but my usual pace is about an 8-minute mile.
<7 minute miles are like the cool side of the pillow: I know they exist, but they're very elusive.
Quote from: kopfjäger on February 08, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
That is a Marine Corps Drill Instructor. Never ever confuse the two, ever. [roll]
Yeah...
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But...
Lighten up, Francis.
Quote from: He Man on February 08, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
When i Do squats i have pain in this area sometimes. Even if its a body squat. No idea why. any conclusions? its only the left leg. on the inside part of hte tendon.
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/165/kneetendonitisquadricep.jpg)
Interesting you should say that. I've randomly had a similar issue - above the knee cap. From what I've learned, it's a common injury, and most probably 1 of 2 things:
1) Tendinitis (less likely)
2) A ruptured tendon (most likely)
Tendons attach muscle to bone. The quadriceps tendon and patellar tendon connect to form one continuous tendon that covers the patella (kneecap). The quadriceps tendon connects quad muscles to the patella; the patellar tendon connects the patella to the shinbone.
If the quadriceps contract forcefully and suddenly (as when trying to break a fall), the tendon may tear where it attaches to the bone (either above or below the kneecap).
(http://www.arthroscopy.com/nucleus/Knee2.jpg)
When this happens to me, I usually refrain from activity which puts impact/pressure on my knee, wear a knee brace, and abide by a 2 week healing period. If your issue is similar to mine as it sounds to be, it should heal quickly - if you allow it sufficient down time.
Ruptured tendons also occur more frequently by athletes and are the result of overuse as well as impact trauma - both of which fit your issue.
Hope that helps! [thumbsup]
Yea, no squats for a while.. are you doing bent knee or straight leg deadlifts? Go up to your body weight in the dead lift and see how it feels. Just make sure you can keep form proper ..
deadlifts = beast mode.
Quote from: He Man on February 08, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
Also, I took some time off Muay Thai ( 2 weeks) due to a nagging toe injury. Im doing a lot of weight lifting right now and I've found the Dead Lift. It is the most manly workout in the world. I'm doing 3 sets of 12 reps with 135lbs. Should I stick with this weight until i build up strength? or should i Move up?
You should sack up and do power cleans. Now that's manly.
Quote from: cokey on February 09, 2011, 07:57:04 AM
Yea, no squats for a while.. are you doing bent knee or straight leg deadlifts? Go up to your body weight in the dead lift and see how it feels. Just make sure you can keep form proper ..
If his tendon is injured/ruptured, even doing body weight is a bad idea until it heals - it doesn't take that long, but continued exertion will prolong the time it takes for it to fully heal and could lead to increased injury.
What Dave said!
Rest up until you feel like you can train legs w/o pain. Ligaments do not get a lot of blood flow so they take time to heal, working out will only lead to prolonged injury.
Also, try not going as deep, maybe that will help.
That's why I asked bent or straight. I've never felt any type of strain on knees when doing straight.
Quote from: cokey on February 09, 2011, 10:58:06 AM
That's why I asked bent or straight. I've never felt any type of strain on knees when doing straight.
Either way (bent or straight) this particular tendon could react badly to the stress of stabilization tension created by the quads if it's injured. However, if that's a desired exercise that you want to try, try it but be
very aware of the feeling of your knee - if you feel anything that is even remotely not right, stop.
i do bent leg.
Power cleans is on my list to learn actually. but i need a trainer to teach me proper technique. It looks explosive and like it could really help me achieve that explosive and elusive chuck liddle backward left handed KO punch (ok maybe thats just a dream!)
Any tips for power clean?
I watched a crossfit video on deadlifts, the whole line up the scafoild and dont care about how leaned over ur back is, so as long as the criteria for a optimal lift is acheived, and i tried it out today with body weight, no pain at all.
However if i do a squat, it hurts, so i avoided squats,but i did seated leg curls, seated hamstring curls without issue.
Do tears in tendons heal themselves?
Quote from: He Man on February 09, 2011, 04:49:15 PM
Do tears in tendons heal themselves?
Yes - it depends greatly upon how badly a tear/rupture may be though. Minor ones can take a week to 2 weeks (see my earlier post).
Headed up to the high country in Colorado for a few days of skiing/snowshoeing/hiking/ [drink]
A little exercise will be good.
Quote from: He Man on February 08, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
^ what he said. Notice that scary black Eagle Globe and Anchor.
and 1.5miles? dont be a wussy. Do a 3 miler, but before that do a 5 mile warm up.
PFT! or PRT or watever the hell you wanna call it. Just run damn it!
Ive been consistently running at 6:33 pace and feel great. I can kick it up to a 6min/mile but its tough to maintain it.
Also, I took some time off Muay Thai ( 2 weeks) due to a nagging toe injury. Im doing a lot of weight lifting right now and I've found the Dead Lift. It is the most manly workout in the world. I'm doing 3 sets of 12 reps with 135lbs. Should I stick with this weight until i build up strength? or should i Move up?
When i Do squats i have pain in this area sometimes. Even if its a body squat. No idea why. any conclusions? its only the left leg. on the inside part of hte tendon.
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/165/kneetendonitisquadricep.jpg)
If the pain is not injury type pain but simply a little painful discomfort while squatting, it could be a simple issue of squatting with your knees past your toes, which is a no no and usually the most common cause of knee discomfort with squatting. Box squat will fix that easily for you. If the pain is something more serious and feels like an injury, I'd get it checked by an orthopoedic surgeon.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 09, 2011, 04:59:23 PM
Yes - it depends greatly upon how badly a tear/rupture may be though. Minor ones can take a week to 2 weeks (see my earlier post).
gotcha, i always thought tendons never reattatched themselves, i had a minor tear in my shoulder and it took 2 years for it to heal properly.
Another question about dieting right now...
RIght no this is my schedule
Weight lifting 3x a week @ 1-2hours. Eveything I do is 10-15 reps @ 3 sets increasing weight by a little.
I run about 2-3x a week, usually 3miles @ ~19mins
Muay Thai for 2 hours 4x a week.
How much protein/fat/carbs should i be eating? Goal is to lose 10lbs possibly 15 (150 right now 5'6")
Im doing about about 125g Carbs/~150g protein/40g fat a day.
Which really only equates to 1500ish calories a day. My freind said to get more fat in my diet through peanuts cashes etc. Ive been throwing peanut butter in my shakes to to up the fat intake.
Should i eat more protein? I probably consume about 1/2lb-1lb of veggies a day ( which is probably also why i poo so damn much, i think i get over 30grams of fiber a day)
pitbull, i never pass my toes with my knees, they are usually in the middle of the foot.
Oh....and as for deadlifts and powercleans.
both should be kept in the 5 rep range or lower as weight is added. Both are fairly technical lifts and high reps will lead to form breakdown and injury. This is especially true for powercleans. Deadlifts can be taken up into the 8 rep range, but should be done with without going to failure and preserving form.
as for crossover to power in other sports, there is very little evidence that powercleans do so in any significant way despite their popularity by many power athletes (ie football) . I spent a lot of years perfecting powercleans with significant poundage and all it left me with is a bad wrist, and a number of less serious, small injuries throughout the years. If I could go back in time I would avoid them completely. I spent a lot of time and energy on a lift that could have gone to better use in both the gym and the sports I was training for at the time.
Deadlifts are another animal altogether. They are probably the best lift for developing posterior chain strength, which more than olympic lifts, dynamic lifts, core training or any other passing fad, helps the athlete's hips to fire efficiently for increased power in sports. While all the variations of deadlifts are excellent, my personal favourite is the romanian deadlift, which I believe gives the most bang for your buck.
Quote from: pitbull on February 09, 2011, 06:22:35 PM
Deadlifts are another animal altogether. They are probably the best lift for developing posterior chain strength, which more than olympic lifts, dynamic lifts, core training or any other passing fad, helps the athlete's hips to fire efficiently for increased power in sports. While all the variations of deadlifts are excellent, my personal favourite is the romanian deadlift, which I believe gives the most bang for your buck.
That is what ive heard, though someone said there is another lift that is better and deadlifts rank 2nd. any idea what that one is?
tendons can repair themselves, often stronger than they were, in the right circumstance. If the two ends of the torn tendon can touch oneanother, scar tissue and collagen can actually be as strong or stronger than surgical repair. It helps even further if you can have appropriate therapy to help remodel the tissue as it heals.
some people will adamently tell you that a complete tendon rupture can't repair itself without medical intervention, but I had a completely ruptured achilles tendon that was treated without surgery and it's healed far better for me than most of people who've ruptured their achilles and had surgery.
As for diet......1500 calories sounds a little low for the amount of energy your expending. but if you are set on 1500 calories your macronutrient breakdown sounds about as good as can be.
If I were you I would consider bumping your calories up to 1700-1800 and see how you make out and adjust things from there.
My general rule of thumb is to set protein at 1-1.5 g of protein per pound of bodyweight. After protein, make sure you get about 6 g of quality fish oil per day and then fill in the rest of your calories with a mixture of good quality carbs and fat. The ratios will be of little consequence from a body composition perspective although I would shoot for at least 45 g of fat to maintain energy leveles. I would also aim to bracket my workouts with the majority of my carb intake.
Quote from: He Man on February 09, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
That is what ive heard, though someone said there is another lift that is better and deadlifts rank 2nd. any idea what that one is?
I'm going to guess romanian deadlift. Box squats are also an excellent posterior chain developer as are glute-ham raises and heavy good mornings.
Quote from: He Man on February 09, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
gotcha, i always thought tendons never reattatched themselves, i had a minor tear in my shoulder and it took 2 years for it to heal properly.
Another question about dieting right now...
RIght no this is my schedule
Weight lifting 3x a week @ 1-2hours. Eveything I do is 10-15 reps @ 3 sets increasing weight by a little.
I run about 2-3x a week, usually 3miles @ ~19mins
Muay Thai for 2 hours 4x a week.
How much protein/fat/carbs should i be eating? Goal is to lose 10lbs possibly 15 (150 right now 5'6")
Im doing about about 125g Carbs/~150g protein/40g fat a day.
Which really only equates to 1500ish calories a day. My freind said to get more fat in my diet through peanuts cashes etc. Ive been throwing peanut butter in my shakes to to up the fat intake.
Should i eat more protein? I probably consume about 1/2lb-1lb of veggies a day ( which is probably also why i poo so damn much, i think i get over 30grams of fiber a day)
pitbull, i never pass my toes with my knees, they are usually in the middle of the foot.
I would say that from what you described your 'injury' is minor and will heal. Some significant tears or ultimately detachments will absolutely require surgery - but in many of those cases you wouldn't even be able to walk and would know that something was severely wrong. I injured my bicep a few years back where the lower bicep connects to the area in which the elbow bend is located while rock climbing and it did take a full year of recovery (no weights what so ever - I recall that I couldn't even curl a 20lb weight) - but once I ceased working out, ceased climbing, etc...it finally healed and it's back to normal. I probably should have seen a doctor but...I'm stubborn that way.
Diet: you are doing a ton of exercising - kudos to you for that - that's awesome. That being said, if you want to loose weight I'd steer clear of peanut butter as it's uber high in oily fats (some good, and some bad) that will ultimately go against your weight loss goals. There's a fine line between what to eat and what not to eat, what your body needs and what is too much or too little nutrition. I'm sure that we could wage a war of pages and pages on dieting advice, but what I've always found that has worked (for me - everyone is different) when working out so hard is to cut carbs (moderately - because you do need some) and to cut fats (heavily), while maintaining a consistency in my workouts for say 7 weeks in order to see my goals reached.
I wear a heart rate monitor when I workout (always) and use that as a guide to help me be aware of my efforts - for example, my regular weight routine for an hour used to result in about 230 calories burned, my new routine in the same time results in 550-600 calories burned. Once you know your caloric burn, you can better feed yourself and tailor your workout to help you reach your goals.
When I do eat during I usually take in carbs around lunch as I will need them when I workout, but I don't take in more than say...40-60 at that time. By contrast, when I ride my bike and condition for a cycling race, that's entirely different because I'm burning between 2,000-4000 calories on training rides along with carbs, and everything else. So you have to refine your diet for your metabolism, your type of workout(s), and for what will give you what you need to reach your goals.
Does that help? Sorry if I rambled. In any case, I think you're on the right track. Good luck though, I'm sure you'll reach your goal with all that you're doing! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Thanks pitbull and Monster Dave! Very usful info! my leg only hurts is if i squat pass parallel... everyday things r fine. really did not hurt until i started running again.
Whats the REAL story about low fat/low carb diets like atkins keto or caveman anyway? in my mind, your body needs carbs and fats however you can get them. healthy carbs and healthy fats give you the best bang for your buck because they keep you full and have vitamins ands minerals. I base this on the fact that monks eat nothing but rice and veggies all day. the veggies give them a ton of nutrients and protein. and carbs from rice, even though they say white rice is bad for you (tell that to marathon runners and monks who can break bricks with their throats). i also read about a guy who ate nothing but twinkees all day and lost weight, the key was maitnaing a caloric deficit.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html)
As of rigth now a sample day of food is pretty much like this (this was today)
0700- 1 cup dried irish oats, sometimes made with milk, 1 poached egg or hard boiled,
0930- my fresh fruit in class usually oranges because i get em by the crate.
1100- gym
1230 post workout Protein shake
1500 is my biggest meal, today i had 72g calories of noodles, with 1 whole "stalk" of brocolli and
another 1/4lb of chinese veggies that i really like, and i had 2-3 pieces of chicken with it
(from a whole chicken that i had to cut up into pieces). finish with 1 scoop of protein shake made with milk
2000 fresh fruit, i will kill to find a coconut that doenst cost an arm and a leg right now.
2200 another double scoop of protein shake and Cellmass for recovery (3g creatine)
about 15-20cups of water a day unless it was that 115 degree trackday where i prbably drank 2 gallons without pissing!
Then sleep. ive really never slept this much in my entire life. i used to be a 4hr a night guy, now im doing 10 hrs 5x a week and 4hrs 2x a week.
i find that oatmeal in the morning is what sets me off right. if i miss that. god help me. i wouldnt be able to lift a pencil all morning. its such a strong point in my diet. and steel cut irish oats are so damn delicious! just water, cinnamon and pinch of salt, or fresh fruits and honey etc.
i take a 1000mg dose of sustainable wild alaskan cold press omega 3 capsul once a day
and a multivitamin, ON optimen but at half dosage cause i think i get a good variety of fruits and veggies in.
so i need to up my protein take in (at 1.5g/lb, i should be taking in 225grams), that should be easy with some steamed fish.
He Man:
Unless your goal is to be a bodybuilder or absolutely maximize muscle hypertrophy, I don't think you need to up your protein to 225 grams. 150 grams/day is fine with the caveat that if you are going to maintain a fairly hypocaloric diet, you might want to bump it up another 25g or so as added protein will have a muscle sparring effect in the face of a large calorie deficit.
As for diets........low fat, low carb, aktins, warrior, paeleolithic, caveman, full keto, and whatever other diet fad you can think of, all work. Despite particular diet claims, none can violate the first rule of thermodynamics and any diet that puts you in a hypocaloric state is going to result in weight loss.
The goals, as I see it, of any diet should be bodycomposition and health. As long as protein levels are maintained any diet can accomplish body comp goals. You could hit a stage ready, 5% bodyfat on nothing but Mcdonalds if you were spot on with diet numbers, however I would not recommend it for long term health.
Almost any diet (low fat or low carb) can result in good health, as long as your food choices are nutrient dense. Even atkins can be done in a healthy manner if quality proteins, healthy fats and nutrient dense greens are consumed. However low-carb diets, while effective, don't often suit the energy needs of those doing lots of conditioning type work.
I think your diet looks pretty good. Oatmeal is an excellent energy source, as is rice, although I would choose a brown/wild rice mix for a better nutrient and fibre profile. Outside of those starchy carbohydrates I would up your green veggie intake and add in some mix of berries. I use a frozen berry mix thrown into a protein shake. Speaking of protein shakes, they are useful in a pinch, but nothing beats real food. Whey protein has been shown to have some immune system benefits, so I would keep one whey shake a day.....perhaps mixed with berries in a smoothie type drink. Outside of that I would get my protein from lean animal sources, a little dairy and eggs.
As for fish oil, I would up your total to 6 caps a day to hit desired epa numbers. Actually, I switch to liquid fish oil as it's far more cost effective. take a tblsp of carlson's fish oil every morning and be done with it.
oh...........forgot one thing. In addition to your multi-vitamin/mineral, I would take additional vitamin d in the range of 2-4000 iu's/day. There is a lot of current research suggesting d might have a huge impact on heart and neurological health, immune function, not to mention positive emotional effects. It's dirt cheap and can be tolerated in at very high levels without toxicity, so I think it's a mistake not to include it
Dammit, you guys make me want to start deadlifting again. [evil]
I was just wondering, what are some of your highest numbers with the "standard" deadlift?
Has anyone tried deadlifts with resistance bands? It adds a whole new level to the lifts.
Hopefully this works...
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Just click on the link, I hope it works. I wouldn't mind some critiques on my form from you dead-heads. BTW I promise there's a red band connecting the bar to my feet.... ;)
romanian deadlift, that's straight legged, no?
Quote from: cokey on February 10, 2011, 11:35:46 AM
romanian deadlift, that's straight legged, no?
similar in that you also don't go to the floor, but knees are definitely bent and you break at the hips, pushing your butt out first before lowering the weight towards the floor.
another tip with deadlifting: unless you are going to compete some day in powerlifting, I would suggest deadlifts be done out of the rack and initated with the negative (lowering) portion of the lift to neurologically prepare the body for the lift, as you do in both the bench press and squat. In fact a true deadlift is about the only free weight exercise in which you initiate the movement with the concentric phase of the lift, which is not the best way to avoid injury. For the average bear looking to deadlift to assist with general athletic performance, initiating the movement from the floor is not needed or even useful in any way.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 10, 2011, 09:02:10 AM
Dammit, you guys make me want to start deadlifting again. [evil]
I was just wondering, what are some of your highest numbers with the "standard" deadlift?
I used to be able to routinely pull 600 lbs. + with lifting straps, as my grip was the weakest link in the deal. Without straps I could usually pull somewhere in the 500lb. + range.
Those are not huge numbers by any means, but being short and stocky, I'm not exactly built to deadlift. While short and stocky usually gives you a mechanical advantage for squat and bench press, long armed, long torso guys with normal to short legs have the mechanical advantage for deadlifting.
Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 12:31:08 PM
another tip with deadlifting: unless you are going to compete some day in powerlifting, I would suggest deadlifts be done out of the rack and initated with the negative (lowering) portion of the lift to neurologically prepare the body for the lift, as you do in both the bench press and squat. In fact a true deadlift is about the only free weight exercise in which you initiate the movement with the concentric phase of the lift, which is not the best way to avoid injury. For the average bear looking to deadlift to assist with general athletic performance, initiating the movement from the floor is not needed or even useful in any way.
Just to clarify because im still new to the terminology of poitive and negative phase of any workout...
what do you by initated with the negative poriton of hte lift? Ive heard various things such as the lift should be done quick from the ground up (the positive phase?) and you should allow gravity to bring it back to the floor instead of slow control.
And as far as your back, ive heard things like, keep a neutral spine and take a deep breath to suppose a neutral spine. Is a neutral spine how you would have your back if you stood at attention?
Interesting stuff about lifting, can't say I'm particularly inclined to try it, but sounds different for sure.
I've been training a lot, and have lost some 20 pounds in about 6 months, with the last 3 months being really intense, with my ultimate goal of starting to fight again in october.
This is what my weekis looking like:
Mondays:
Chest and Back (P90x routine) in the morning.
Muay Thai in the afternoon
Tuesday:
Rowing AM
BJJ and Muay Thai/KB PM
Wednesday:
Shoulders and Arms (P90x) AM
Muay thai and Submission Wrestling PM
Thursday:
Rowing Am
Kickboxing and BJJ PM
Friday:
Rowing AM
Legs and Back (P90x) PM
Sat:
Muay thai and BJJ Am
Sun:
Rest or Run
I've hit a bit of a plateau lateley and can't seem to drop below 179. Any tips?
My diet is pretty repetitive but basically consists of a turkey and veggiers omelette in the morning, protein shake after w/o, turkey and provolone pita sandwich for lunch, and fruit for dinner.
How To Do The Deadlift With Proper Form (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vcBQNqfxe8#normal)
Quote from: He Man on February 10, 2011, 12:42:33 PM
Just to clarify because im still new to the terminology of poitive and negative phase of any workout...
what do you by initated with the negative poriton of hte lift? Ive heard various things such as the lift should be done quick from the ground up (the positive phase?) and you should allow gravity to bring it back to the floor instead of slow control.
And as far as your back, ive heard things like, keep a neutral spine and take a deep breath to suppose a neutral spine. Is a neutral spine how you would have your back if you stood at attention?
Starting with the negative phase of the lift simply means to pull the bar out of a rack and start from the standing position instead of starting from the floor. As I mentioned, starting from the standing position allows your body to stabilize itself while decending and beginning the lift itself.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 10, 2011, 09:07:19 AM
Has anyone tried deadlifts with resistance bands? It adds a whole new level to the lifts.
Hopefully this works...
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Just click on the link, I hope it works. I wouldn't mind some critiques on my form from you dead-heads. BTW I promise there's a red band connecting the bar to my feet.... ;)
Hard to critique form in the deadlift from a straight on view, but it looks pretty good really. Positioning seems to be very good. From the side it's easier to critique how you're initiating the lift. Bands can be very useful for developing speed in the lift.
actually................for anyone really interested in learning competition form deadlifting...........youtube westside barbell club and louie simmons. Nobody and no place does it better on the planet.
Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
actually................for anyone really interested in learning competition form deadlifting...........youtube westside barbell club and louie simmons. Nobody and no place does it better on the planet.
It sure doesn't seem like anyone's quite that far along with it Pit. Lets keep things in perspective - a learning tool is only as good as the person who uses it.
Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 01:26:53 PM
Hard to critique form in the deadlift from a straight on view, but it looks pretty good really. Positioning seems to be very good. From the side it's easier to critique how you're initiating the lift. Bands can be very useful for developing speed in the lift.
Cool, thanks pit, I tend to stick my butt out a bit and lift with my legs, but the heavier the weights, the more prone I am to using my back.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 10, 2011, 01:32:02 PM
It sure doesn't seem like anyone's quite that far along with it Pit. Lets keep things in perspective - a learning tool is only as good as the person who uses it.
No worries as to how far along anyone is or isn't in the powerlifts, Louie can teach a rank beginner how to deadlift just about better than anyone on the planet.
edit to say that there's nothing particularly wrong with the clip you posted.................not a great explanation of the technical aspect of the lift, but nothing dangerous about it
Quote from: El Matador on February 10, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
Interesting stuff about lifting, can't say I'm particularly inclined to try it, but sounds different for sure.
I've been training a lot, and have lost some 20 pounds in about 6 months, with the last 3 months being really intense, with my ultimate goal of starting to fight again in october.
This is what my weekis looking like:
Mondays:
Chest and Back (P90x routine) in the morning.
Muay Thai in the afternoon
Tuesday:
Rowing AM
BJJ and Muay Thai/KB PM
Wednesday:
Shoulders and Arms (P90x) AM
Muay thai and Submission Wrestling PM
Thursday:
Rowing Am
Kickboxing and BJJ PM
Friday:
Rowing AM
Legs and Back (P90x) PM
Sat:
Muay thai and BJJ Am
Sun:
Rest or Run
I've hit a bit of a plateau lateley and can't seem to drop below 179. Any tips?
My diet is pretty repetitive but basically consists of a turkey and veggiers omelette in the morning, protein shake after w/o, turkey and provolone pita sandwich for lunch, and fruit for dinner.
I think your workout is just fine.........looks like a nice balance of conditioning and some strength work. P90x is just fine for helping one get and maintain strength for martial arts and fight sports.
as for diet, if you're taking in less than you're expending, along with significant physical energy expenditure, and you've stalled in your fat loss efforts, it might be time take a week long diet break. Without getting too in depth, long periods of dieting can lead to a down regulation of the hormones and brain chemicals that regulate metabolism. Usually a 5-7 day break with elevated calories and carbohydrates is enough to correct diet induced metabolic disfunction.
Quote from: pitbull on February 10, 2011, 04:51:42 PM
No worries as to how far along anyone is or isn't in the powerlifts, Louie can teach a rank beginner how to deadlift just about better than anyone on the planet.
edit to say that there's nothing particularly wrong with the clip you posted.................not a great explanation of the technical aspect of the lift, but nothing dangerous about it
Thanks - it was just a quick grab from youtube while I was at work! [beer]
i feel like a million pound beast.
i cant get out of bed.
My hamstrings are refusing to work.
i love it.
^LOL - oh the glorious feel good pain!! I bet you're sleeping awesome though! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
I know how you feel - I had to take yesterday off to rest; though I did hit a mark Wednesday that I hadn't hit in a while on the Peck-Deck (did 4 reps at 300lbs).
Meant to post up that I watched a really interesting documentary last night (Netflix) that some of you might really find of interest:
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/05/08/bigger-stronger-faster-post.jpg)
It's all about steroid use and the real realities of how much they are used - both for good (medicinal) and arguably bad (sports), how in many ways they do or don't affect people's lives, and the extraordinary distances that people have gone to hide the fact that they employed them as performance enhancers.
I found it to be really well done and certainly worth watching. [thumbsup]
will check it out.
my hammies keep cramping up REAL bad. i actually cant walk right now!!!! I must of over did it with my right leg ( my weak leg). its spazing out. i keep thinking im not having enough water, but ive had a gallon of water today.
i got a heater pad wrapped around my right hamstring to try and losen it up. stretch stretch stretch!!!
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 11, 2011, 01:19:03 PM
Meant to post up that I watched a really interesting documentary last night (Netflix) that some of you might really find of interest:
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/05/08/bigger-stronger-faster-post.jpg)
It's all about steroid use and the real realities of how much they are used - both for good (medicinal) and arguably bad (sports), how in many ways they do or don't affect people's lives, and the extraordinary distances that people have gone to hide the fact that they employed them as performance enhancers.
I found it to be really well done and certainly worth watching. [thumbsup]
It's actually one of the best balanced and informative pieces on steroid useage that Iv'e ever seen. 99% of most media reports on steroids are so horribly researched and presented they are painful to watch or read. Usually I'm simply embarrased for those doing the reporting.
However, this doc. presents the bad and good of steroid use without judgement........definitely a fascinating presentation.
He man, you should have gotten some good doses of potassium as well.. better late then never..
Quote from: cokey on February 11, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
He man, you should have gotten some good doses of potassium as well.. better late then never..
+1
I learned that from cycling. It's not only water that your body needs! Eat a bananna or two - even better (and what I love the most) are the small cans of V8 100% vegitable juice.
On an interesting side note regarding Bigger Stronger Faster, Lyle Alzado was a close family friend for many years. Though I was very young then, the impact that his acknowledgement of steroid use combined with a terminal brain tumor, left an indelible mark on my life. My mom always told me that (off the field) he was a good, honest, and sincere man. It's no wonder his situation made such an impact on people.
Two glorious days of skiing in the books.
I think I shall take a hike or go snowshoeing tomorrow. Mohawk Lakes, here I come [thumbsup]
Quote from: cokey on February 11, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
He man, you should have gotten some good doses of potassium as well.. better late then never..
yup...................some magnesium as well
And as everybody knows, the best source of potassium and magnesium is booze. :) You don't need much to make a difference, but since the bottle will go bad once you open it, it's best to just finish the whole thing.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 11, 2011, 01:19:03 PM
Meant to post up that I watched a really interesting documentary last night (Netflix) that some of you might really find of interest:
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/05/08/bigger-stronger-faster-post.jpg)
It's all about steroid use and the real realities of how much they are used - both for good (medicinal) and arguably bad (sports), how in many ways they do or don't affect people's lives, and the extraordinary distances that people have gone to hide the fact that they employed them as performance enhancers.
I found it to be really well done and certainly worth watching. [thumbsup]
Saw this last year, very informative! [clap]
Did my first Brazilian Jiu Jitsu class. As a Judoka/wrestler, I wanted to scramble and work my stand up game but I decided to play the game and explore the newaza (ground technique) aspect of the sport since Judo has all but killed it. [bang]
I did get schooled by a 14 year old who ways 120 lbs, and some big chick who sat on my chest..... :-*
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 17, 2011, 10:21:28 PM
I did get schooled by a 14 year old who ways 120 lbs, and some big chick who sat on my chest..... :-*
[laugh]
We'll at least you lived to tell about it!!
I went out yesterday on a training ride on my bicycle instead of taking the day off for rest and felt pretty tired but had a good time riding (Mon-Wed I worked-out at the gym). I was enjoying the nice weather and low winds until I got stung by a bee. :P
I was at a stop light waiting for the light to change, put my hands on the grips when the light was about to change and when I closed my grip on the bars... :o ...yeouch - right in the finger!!! Fortunately, it wasn't too bad but I decided to call it a day anyway since I had a nasty reaction the last time I was stung by some hornets (3x in the same day - apparently when you're landscaping and cutting the grass, hornets don't like it when you run over their in ground nest....really pisses them off)!!
Ultimately, I needed the rest anyway. I was passed out and sound asleep by 7:30pm last night!!
Lived to tell about it..... [drink]
5K on sunday.
Not planning on anything spectacular, just finishing. [thumbsup]
Go for the gold....
alright, so Ive decided to stop cutting weight. I am 149lbs, either i fight at 147 or 154. So isntead of cutting 2lbs, im going to pack on 5lbs of muscle. so it shouldn't be that hard. I wouldnt mind 5 extra lbs of muscle on my shoulders.
Quote from: He Man on February 18, 2011, 04:41:14 PM
alright, so Ive decided to stop cutting weight. I am 149lbs, either i fight at 147 or 154. So isntead of cutting 2lbs, im going to pack on 5lbs of muscle. so it shouldn't be that hard. I wouldnt mind 5 extra lbs of muscle on my shoulders.
I would cut the weight since the people you'll be fighting at 154 are most likely cutting into that weight class, and will most likely be around 160 lbs during the fight when they hydrate or eat carbs etc.
Well today was a big day....
I did a 20 mile training ride in the morning, broke out the wetsuit and went surfing in the afternoon and did some weight training with my client at night.
On a side note...while sitting out on the line up, I felt something brush (bump) my leg. Needless to say, I paddled back to the beach and body boarded through the waves.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 18, 2011, 08:02:22 PM
On a side note...while sitting out on the line up, I felt something brush (bump) my leg. Needless to say, I paddled back to the beach and body boarded through the waves.
Oh crap!!!
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1n1AJ2byhkneEwDZUecOl6fBYG95FFaOspMRFA5ROz1fuqUuc&t=1)
Quote from: He Man on February 18, 2011, 04:41:14 PM
alright, so Ive decided to stop cutting weight. I am 149lbs, either i fight at 147 or 154. So isntead of cutting 2lbs, im going to pack on 5lbs of muscle. so it shouldn't be that hard. I wouldnt mind 5 extra lbs of muscle on my shoulders.
what bulldog said.
always better to cut and fight at the top of the weight class than have to gain a few pounds to fight from the bottom of the next one.
154 is the top of the next weight class, but as pointed out, people cut from higher to reach 154.
147 is the top of the previous weight class, but I would be cutting down to that class.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 19, 2011, 07:29:39 AM
Oh crap!!!
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1n1AJ2byhkneEwDZUecOl6fBYG95FFaOspMRFA5ROz1fuqUuc&t=1)
Ya, that wasn't cool, shark or no shark! But you bet i'll say it was a bull...no great white shark (to all the girls) that bumped my leg, which I scared off with my swagger!
Though that was a poke at humor, I'm glad that nothing bad came of it. Surf safe. [thumbsup]
Quote from: He Man on February 19, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
154 is the top of the next weight class, but as pointed out, people cut from higher to reach 154.
147 is the top of the previous weight class, but I would be cutting down to that class.
You should be cutting between 10 to 15 lbs. The guys that cut higher will probably not have much left in the tank, but they will be huge on fight day.
Race this morning went well. [thumbsup]
Finished in 29:12, target was sub-30. 7th in my age group out of 15.
I'll take it; considering my last 5K was over a year ago and I've only been running again since Nov.
Looking for a 10K near the end of May. Was set to run one in Cleveland on the 15th, but B's graduation is on the night before so that's not going to work. :P
Quote from: duccarlos on February 19, 2011, 10:53:38 PM
You should be cutting between 10 to 15 lbs. The guys that cut higher will probably not have much left in the tank, but they will be huge on fight day.
10-15lbs??? Thats a lot since im already low body fat. id be losing muscle mass.
I think about the K-1 MAX guys a lot. 154lbs, most of them are only a tad taller than me. (except for the freakishly tall ones that are skinny as hell).
My main disadvantage is lack of reach and shortness.a few more pounds dont really matte does it?
my happy happy weight if i was just eating wahtever is 158. I went down to 140, and built up muscle mass to my ~150lb right now.
I'm so glad this is the "not too serious" get fit thread now...
Cuz I haven't been too serious about getting fit lately. :P
Gonna take the pedal bike out today. It's gonna suck. I haven't done any cardio in forever.
5 years ago, I took a dare and competed in my first ever triathlon on 2 weeks notice.
Despite not knowing how to swim, and doggie paddling (pretty much) the whole 1/2 mile ocean swim, I actually beat my two friends who had been training for it for months! I caught them on the bike and run.
That was where my fitness level was then. 174lbs. and 6% body fat... Now I'm around 190 and 18% body fat. [bang]
Time for that shit to end!!!
[bacon]
So, I was working out my appetite today [thumbsup]
Grilled some lean ground beef (burgers) and some chicken breast. [drool]
Ive been a couch potato all weekend.
Friday went out with some freinds, was not in the mood for clubbin it up. especially in a sausage fest place.
Saturday, went out to eat dinner with some friends (800 calories all day).
Today, had a 500 calorie meal.
Talk about an easy way to cut calories right?
unmotivating day.
Tomorrow is a whole other story.
Quote from: He Man on February 20, 2011, 11:06:35 AM
10-15lbs??? Thats a lot since im already low body fat. id be losing muscle mass.
I think about the K-1 MAX guys a lot. 154lbs, most of them are only a tad taller than me. (except for the freakishly tall ones that are skinny as hell).
My main disadvantage is lack of reach and shortness.a few more pounds dont really matte does it?
my happy happy weight if i was just eating wahtever is 158. I went down to 140, and built up muscle mass to my ~150lb right now.
even at sub 10% body fat, dropping 10lbs of water weight is not all that difficult.................no need to sacrifice lean muscle mass at all. The caveat is that weigh-in has to be the night before the fight. If you have to weigh-in the same day as the fight, then cutting weight is a bad idea. But if you weigh-in the night before, even lean guys can drop major water weight and then super compensate immediately after weigh-in and actually come to the fight at the top of the next weight class, feeling fantastic.
20+ miles on the bike today...
Not bad for my first time pedaling since last spring, I guess. I kept up with my two friends Diana and Shelly on the flat stuff, but three miles in, the hills began. :P At the top of the first one, they were nice enough to pretend to be fixing Shelly's chain, so as to make it seem like I wasn't holding them up! [laugh] My [moto] riding helped me on the long downhill though. I was hanging off with my knee out! [roll] I'm such a dork... :D I pulled away from them, and really got into a good groove. At the bottom, there is a long flat section through Hidden Valley where I was able to get on my tri-bars and keep up a good pace (around 18-20mph).
I stopped to wait at a turning point, and from there, a few more hills. [bang] After the first two, I hit the proverbial "Wall." They waited at every turning point for me (nice girls) from there on in. Luckily we were only about 5 miles from home.
All in all, a great day! [thumbsup] I'm glad I decided to go. :)
[bacon]
Joined LA Boxing.
Haven't boxed since college (and wasn't very good <way> back then), but should be fun.
Guess this is closer to the other get fit thread.
Not quite as serious boxing as the likes of 20th St Gym, so I will keep it here.
The sales person said I would look like this by the end of the week -
(http://www.dolph-ultimate.com/gallery/pictures/dolph-a1.jpg)
2 years ago I was going here: http://www.cappysgym.com/ (http://www.cappysgym.com/)
I did not box, but the workouts were ass kicking great! I might try to get going again.
Good luck and send photos!
Boxing is awesome, I just like grappling more. That and I have a face to protect for the ladies ;D
Did you check out wildcards? I would love to train with freddie, and just to say I train there would be good enough for me.
Quote from: Jerry Attrick on February 20, 2011, 07:35:22 PM
The sales person said I would look like this by the end of the week -
(http://www.dolph-ultimate.com/gallery/pictures/dolph-a1.jpg)
"I must break you" [laugh]
Quote from: Jerry Attrick on February 20, 2011, 07:35:22 PM
The sales person said I would look like this by the end of the week -
(http://www.dolph-ultimate.com/gallery/pictures/dolph-a1.jpg)
They do hair replacement there too?
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 21, 2011, 07:49:36 PM
They do hair replacement there too?
You going to join, too?
You do realize, follicly, you are not that far behind. [cheeky]
alright ill have to bann myself from this. If i want to fight competatively, i need to step it up into the seriously get more than just fit thread.
LOL hey, we can all be seriously fit and have good hair! [beer]
I haven't had good hair since June, 2001! ;D
[bacon]
Quote from: He Man on February 19, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
154 is the top of the next weight class, but as pointed out, people cut from higher to reach 154.
147 is the top of the previous weight class, but I would be cutting down to that class.
Dude I'm not sure I'd do that if I were you. My goal is to get to 170 abd cut to 155 the day before the fight. You and I fighting in the same class would be a little ridiculous. I've done a practice cut and dropped 12 lbs. I'm not particularly worried I wouldn't be able to make weight.
Today was day 1 of my 2011 cycling season training. I had just enough time to put in 20 miles after work before the sunset this evening. I burned 900 calories, and held an average speed of 18.8mph - not bad for day 1!!
With the start of cycling season now in full swing, I find myself at a crossroads with the routine that I've been doing over the last 4 weeks at the gym. Though I have loved the results and the challenge which it has offered me, it ultimately impacts my quads too heavily to train concurrently for cycling. I can't afford for my legs to be pre-fatigued before each of the 3 weekly training days for which I'm allocating time. Though I still expect to maintain an upper body routine 2-3 days a week at the gym, I must embrace a program specifically for cycling.
Goal: I have a race in 6 weeks and am aiming to win my first Platinum time finish. In order to arrive at this goal, I must maintain an average speed of 24mph over the 75 mile course - a feat which to date has eluded me (though I've only been cycling for just over a year). But thanks to the forthcoming acquisition of a new road bike that's 8 lbs lighter than my current one, I feel that it's a goal forever closer to being within my grasp.
Here's to hoping that 2011 is a land mark year for everyone in the hopes of achieving our goals and forever raising the bar to new heights! [beer]
Quote from: El Matador on February 22, 2011, 06:34:15 PM
Dude I'm not sure I'd do that if I were you. My goal is to get to 170 abd cut to 155 the day before the fight. You and I fighting in the same class would be a little ridiculous. I've done a practice cut and dropped 12 lbs. I'm not particularly worried I wouldn't be able to make weight.
how tall are you? Granted we might be in the same weight class, but i wouldn't sign a contract to fight someone over 5'10". I'd need some serious speed and skill to win that fight.
The only issue i end up getting into is reach. Which is why i focus so much on kicks clinch and cardio.
If you look at K1-MAX, all those guys are 154lbs (70kg) ranging from 5'6- 5'11. All the top dogs are about 5'9". Andy Souwer, Buakaw, Masato.
Quote from: He Man on February 22, 2011, 08:33:18 PM
how tall are you? Granted we might be in the same weight class, but i wouldn't sign a contract to fight someone over 5'10". I'd need some serious speed and skill to win that fight.
The only issue i end up getting into is reach. Which is why i focus so much on kicks clinch and cardio.
If you look at K1-MAX, all those guys are 154lbs (70kg) ranging from 5'6- 5'11. All the top dogs are about 5'9". Andy Souwer, Buakaw, Masato.
Ya, some dirty boxing and Judo FTW. Have you considered doing Judo? I would always throw/or sweep the hell out of MMA wrestlers since they are not used to defending Judo type throws.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 22, 2011, 06:58:26 PM
Today was day 1 of my 2011 cycling season training. I had just enough time to put in 20 miles after work before the sunset this evening. I burned 900 calories, and held an average speed of 18.8mph - not bad for day 1!!
With the start of cycling season now in full swing, I find myself at a crossroads with the routine that I've been doing over the last 4 weeks at the gym. Though I have loved the results and the challenge which it has offered me, it ultimately impacts my quads too heavily to train concurrently for cycling. I can't afford for my legs to be pre-fatigued before each of the 3 weekly training days for which I'm allocating time. Though I still expect to maintain an upper body routine 2-3 days a week at the gym, I must embrace a program specifically for cycling.
Goal: I have a race in 6 weeks and am aiming to win my first Platinum time finish. In order to arrive at this goal, I must maintain an average speed of 24mph over the 75 mile course - a feat which to date has eluded me (though I've only been cycling for just over a year). But thanks to the forthcoming acquisition of a new road bike that's 8 lbs lighter than my current one, I feel that it's a goal forever closer to being within my grasp.
Here's to hoping that 2011 is a land mark year for everyone in the hopes of achieving our goals and forever raising the bar to new heights!
Sweet, i've been doing 20 mile rides too but i'm slow as hell...Out of curiosity, how long does it take you to finish the 20 mile ride?
A
I've been walking the dogs around the block and taking them to bigger dog parks where I have to follow them around for about a 1/2 mile.
Does that count as "not too serious get fit thread" type activities?
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 22, 2011, 09:37:02 PM
I've been walking the dogs around the block and taking them to bigger dog parks where I have to follow them around for about a 1/2 mile.
Does that count as "not too serious get fit thread" type activities?
More like "not even close to serious" get fit... ;D
Maybe you should put lots of bacon in your pockets... then you'd have to run away from all the other dogs at the dog park chasing you, trying to eat the bacon, and whatever else might be in your pocket! [laugh]
[bacon]
Quote from: He Man on February 22, 2011, 08:33:18 PM
how tall are you? Granted we might be in the same weight class, but i wouldn't sign a contract to fight someone over 5'10". I'd need some serious speed and skill to win that fight.
The only issue i end up getting into is reach. Which is why i focus so much on kicks clinch and cardio.
If you look at K1-MAX, all those guys are 154lbs (70kg) ranging from 5'6- 5'11. All the top dogs are about 5'9". Andy Souwer, Buakaw, Masato.
I'm 5'10" and so is most of the 155 weight class. I do have a 75" reach, what can I say, I'm built like a gorilla. I'd still be able to throw you around in the clinch, like I did last time, and just plain power out of most situations.
Souwer and Buakaw cut from somewhere around 170 I believe. Hell, Gray Maynard walks around at 190 and is probably 185-ish on fight night
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 22, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
Sweet, i've been doing 20 mile rides too but i'm slow as hell...Out of curiosity, how long does it take you to finish the 20 mile ride?
A
With traffic lights, yesterday's ride took me just over an hour. It takes time. I was actually pretty happy with my average speed since I hadn't really been training (on my bike) since the end of November.
Keep up the riding, speed will come as you build endurance and find the proper balance for your body within the lactate threshold. [thumbsup] Ride safe! [moto]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 23, 2011, 05:08:34 AM
With traffic lights, yesterday's ride took me just over an hour. It takes time. I was actually pretty happy with my average speed since I hadn't really been training (on my bike) since the end of November.
Keep up the riding, speed will come as you build endurance and find the proper balance for your body within the lactate threshold. [thumbsup] Ride safe! [moto]
I bought a "fitness" bike (hybrid) and it takes me 1 hour and 20 minutes. I was just wondering since I've been passed by roadies like I was standing still. [bang]
I figured I would drop down to 200ish before going full on road bike. I do want to do a century ride though.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 23, 2011, 08:00:57 AM
I bought a "fitness" bike (hybrid) and it takes me 1 hour and 20 minutes. I was just wondering since I've been passed by roadies like I was standing still. [bang]
I figured I would drop down to 200ish before going full on road bike. I do want to do a century ride though.
Hey that's an awesome goal! I'm sure you'll get there - let us know when you set your eyes on an event. Though hybrids aren't built to be the light weight speed machines that roadies are, we have a friend who rides one and can certainly keep up! Ultimately, I think if she ever gets a road bike that she'll be a strong rider because of the time she spent on her hybrid.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 23, 2011, 08:21:12 AM
Hey that's an awesome goal! I'm sure you'll get there - let us know when you set your eyes on an event. Though hybrids aren't built to be the light weight speed machines that roadies are, we have a friend who rides one and can certainly keep up! Ultimately, I think if she ever gets a road bike that she'll be a strong rider because of the time she spent on her hybrid.
Oh man that's good to know. Let her know i'm rooting for her. I actually just finished my 20 mile training ride and managed to do it in an hour and 5 minutes. I guess I got lucky with the lights and I kept churning my legs.
Do you ride with an mp3 player on the streets?
Quote from: El Matador on February 22, 2011, 11:28:43 PM
I'm 5'10" and so is most of the 155 weight class. I do have a 75" reach, what can I say, I'm built like a gorilla. I'd still be able to throw you around in the clinch, like I did last time, and just plain power out of most situations.
Souwer and Buakaw cut from somewhere around 170 I believe. Hell, Gray Maynard walks around at 190 and is probably 185-ish on fight night
yea 5'10" is right where i dont want to be. In clinch with taller guys, my usually tactic is to hang off their neck. neck crank. crossface "bash" them (painfully annoying) and lots of hip thrusting until they get tired from holding me up. All while trying to avoid the knees. lol
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 23, 2011, 09:28:20 AM
Oh man that's good to know. Let her know i'm rooting for her. I actually just finished my 20 mile training ride and managed to do it in an hour and 5 minutes. I guess I got lucky with the lights and I kept churning my legs.
Do you ride with an mp3 player on the streets?
Awesome! Hopefully the weather was nice for your ride!
Yes, I do use an MP3 player for training - I find that a good playlist helps me keep my cadence and effort high. Though it can be said that wearing one is dangerous, but around here the bike lanes are so nice and wide that I feel as though it's not terribly unsafe and I can still hear traffic over my music. For races though I don't use one - now
that I would say is too dangerous!!
Are you using any sort of a computer to give you distance/speed information?
Quote from: He Man on February 23, 2011, 09:43:34 AM
yea 5'10" is right where i dont want to be. In clinch with taller guys, my usually tactic is to hang off their neck. neck crank. crossface "bash" them (painfully annoying) and lots of hip thrusting until they get tired from holding me up. All while trying to avoid the knees. lol
Inside control to Knees to face, Silva style [thumbsup]
My neck hurts like a pregnant dog btw, clinchwork yesterday,
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 23, 2011, 09:45:35 AM
Awesome! Hopefully the weather was nice for your ride!
Yes, I do use an MP3 player for training - I find that a good playlist helps me keep my cadence and effort high. Though it can be said that wearing one is dangerous, but around here the bike lanes are so nice and wide that I feel as though it's not terribly unsafe and I can still hear traffic over my music. For races though I don't use one - now that I would say is too dangerous!!
Are you using any sort of a computer to give you distance/speed information?
No, I just mapped out my route using google and kept an eye on my watch from start to finish. I was thinking about using a MP3 player since i'm on a wide bike path and not on the streets. I feel i'm not fast enough to take the bike on the street, though we have bike lanes at this particular road.
The route is pretty nice at the end though. 10ish miles and your looking at the Atlantic ocean, i'll usually stretch out then ride home to complete the 20.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 23, 2011, 11:25:20 AM
No, I just mapped out my route using google and kept an eye on my watch from start to finish. I was thinking about using a MP3 player since i'm on a wide bike path and not on the streets. I feel i'm not fast enough to take the bike on the street, though we have bike lanes at this particular road.
The route is pretty nice at the end though. 10ish miles and your looking at the Atlantic ocean, i'll usually stretch out then ride home to complete the 20.
Nice! If you're interested in a computer, CATEye makes a basic one that's $20. I envy your destination at the Atlantic Ocean. That's awesome!
Quote from: El Matador on February 23, 2011, 10:34:28 AM
Inside control to Knees to face, Silva style [thumbsup]
My neck hurts like a pregnant dog btw, clinchwork yesterday,
anderson silva?
dudes got beastly long legs.....and arms. then again he is called THE SPIDER!!!!
Gotta work out and then go to training. These "2 a days" are horrible.
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 23, 2011, 11:37:43 AM
Nice! If you're interested in a computer, CATEye makes a basic one that's $20. I envy your destination at the Atlantic Ocean. That's awesome!
Cool, i'll check that device out when I get my bike tuned up. The destination isn't bad at all, I want to try to haul my longboard in tow and surf...but i'm usually too beat from surfing to do anything but eat and sleep. [thumbsup]
Boxing good this afternoon.
Though I am still closer to the Wonder Bread version of George Foreman.
friday, i crashed today hardcore, i slept over 14 hours and not a single thing has been done today other then making photo copies and being put on call waiting. today was awesome aside from having a mild sorethroat from all dryness.
Also found this on the internet, seriously, its a workout, but its not a pullup. blah blah blah. argue whatever you want. Impressive as a cardio workout, but realistically, its pointless (burpee pullups are way more useful in real world workouts)
Nadia Shatila completes 100 pull-ups in 2:53 - CROSSFIT.COM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeobRHs35J4&playnext=1&list=PLEACCE3AAF024DA72#normal)
She is FAR TOO SERIOUS to venture into this thread, but that clip got me thinking that I haven't seen Emily around these parts in a while.
Quote from: He Man on February 25, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
friday, i crashed today hardcore, i slept over 14 hours and not a single thing has been done today other then making photo copies and being put on call waiting. today was awesome aside from having a mild sorethroat from all dryness.
Also found this on the internet, seriously, its a workout, but its not a pullup. blah blah blah. argue whatever you want. Impressive as a cardio workout, but realistically, its pointless (burpee pullups are way more useful in real world workouts)
Nadia Shatila completes 100 pull-ups in 2:53 - CROSSFIT.COM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeobRHs35J4&playnext=1&list=PLEACCE3AAF024DA72#normal)
CrossFit ;)
Those 'pull-ups' are aweful - WTF was that?? ....just throw everything like form out the window!!!
That looks retarded. [thumbsdown]
Regarding you crashing He Man, it sounds like you've been kicking it really hard and forgot that your body needs rest too!! Rest for the weekend and get back into it on Monday!! [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on February 26, 2011, 07:48:37 AM
Those 'pull-ups' are aweful - WTF was that?? ....just throw everything like form out the window!!!
That looks retarded. [thumbsdown]
Regarding you crashing He Man, it sounds like you've been kicking it really hard and forgot that your body needs rest too!! Rest for the weekend and get back into it on Monday!! [thumbsup]
that's what passes for pull-ups in cross-fit gyms. Apparently it's functional as compared to a real pull-up, although I've yet to hear one devotee adequately explain the functionality of it. Usually it comes down to an explanation along the lines of "it's a crossfit thing, you wouldn't understand".
I do know my chiropractor is a very big fan of that particular dynamic, kipping, pull-up abmoniation. It's fantastic for creating some serious shoulder impingment issues in which he can charge some significant money to help fix.
Still...she looks hot! :-*
Functionally, its useless in everyway. Want functional "pullup" style workout? do a burpee pull up or a muscle up. I honestly dont think she could do more than 5 real dead hang pull ups. THe most ive seen in real life is 39.
Heres the REAL deal.
Pull ups: 77 for 8 minutes without rest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smE2z2KZFU&feature=related#normal)
Quote from: He Man on February 26, 2011, 10:33:56 AM
Functionally, its useless in everyway. Want functional "pullup" style workout? do a burpee pull up or a muscle up. I honestly dont think she could do more than 5 real dead hang pull ups. THe most ive seen in real life is 39.
Heres the REAL deal.
Pull ups: 77 for 8 minutes without rest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smE2z2KZFU&feature=related#normal)
he must be an ex-gymnast.
Quote from: He Man on February 26, 2011, 10:33:56 AM
Functionally, its useless in everyway. Want functional "pullup" style workout? do a burpee pull up or a muscle up. I honestly dont think she could do more than 5 real dead hang pull ups. THe most ive seen in real life is 39.
Heres the REAL deal.
Pull ups: 77 for 8 minutes without rest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smE2z2KZFU&feature=related#normal)
looks like an older dude...................quite impressive.
I would imagine there are some climbers out there who could put up some serious pull-up numbers.
most of them weight under 130lbs i bet. Id love to be able to do 25-30
Quote from: pitbull on February 26, 2011, 08:59:04 AM
that's what passes for pull-ups in cross-fit gyms. Apparently it's functional as compared to a real pull-up, although I've yet to hear one devotee adequately explain the functionality of it. Usually it comes down to an explanation along the lines of "it's a crossfit thing, you wouldn't understand".
I do know my chiropractor is a very big fan of that particular dynamic, kipping, pull-up abmoniation. It's fantastic for creating some serious shoulder impingment issues in which he can charge some significant money to help fix.
It's function is along the lines of a gymnastic move to get up on the high bar. It takes a lot of practice to learn the technique, but is less stressful and damaging to the joints, then one would think. All about momentum and if you think they are less of a workout than dead hangs.....well I got some property in the desert I'd like to sell you. :D
"The Lift" the snatch. The most powerful lift.
Pyrros Dimas, 2000 Olympic Gold (snatch).wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IP9y8n_dJg#normal)
Quote from: kopfjäger on February 26, 2011, 10:12:33 PM
"The Lift" the snatch. The most powerful lift.
Pyrros Dimas, 2000 Olympic Gold (snatch).wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IP9y8n_dJg#normal)
yes.......the snatch is a fantastic lift................perhaps the most technical of all lifts........excellent
It takes most olympic lifters a good decade to perfect, some never quite perfect it. It's not surprising many recreational lifters get hurt trying to do it and it baffles me when you realize it doesn't have much practal or real life purpose outside of an olympic lifting competition.
Which is, of course, much like crossfit..........the lack of training economy. While my biggest issue with CF is the high injury rate, second would be the slow rate of results in several different aspects of fitness, for the time spent.
I'm sure many folks here are getting tired of me railing on CF everytime it comes up, so I'll refrain from it for now on.
If anyone is interested in some top notch sports performance based training, check out the below link. Joe Difranco has had some fantastic results with many college and professional athletes. He utilizes many different training concepts from many different people and gives full credit to them. He also has some fantastic pre-hab and re-hab programs. He posts much of his stuff for free on his site and on Youtube. He's also written many excellent articles on his training philosophy, which are on his site.
http://www.defrancostraining.com/pro-clients.html (http://www.defrancostraining.com/pro-clients.html)
Last two weeks before my Judo competition. I plan to drop 10-12~ lbs before it so I'll be training and eating right.
MWF I cycle 20 miles in the AM and will be doing BJJ in the Afternoon and Evenings.
TH Cycle to the gym and do weights in the AM and Judo practice in the PM.
My diet will consist of oatmeal in the AM and veggies/proteins throughout the day. Okra mainly, since they are great for cleaning out the pluming LOL.
Quote from: pitbull on February 26, 2011, 08:59:04 AM
that's what passes for pull-ups in cross-fit gyms. Apparently it's functional as compared to a real pull-up, although I've yet to hear one devotee adequately explain the functionality of it. Usually it comes down to an explanation along the lines of "it's a crossfit thing, you wouldn't understand".
That's bullshit. In CF workouts there are dead hang, reverse grip, band assisted and for the girley men, jump assisted pull ups. Different workouts call for different pull ups. the kipping pull up was used in the Marine Corps back in the late 70's. Nothing new.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on February 27, 2011, 07:03:34 AM
Last two weeks before my Judo competition. I plan to drop 10-12~ lbs before it so I'll be training and eating right.
MWF I cycle 20 miles in the AM and will be doing BJJ in the Afternoon and Evenings.
TH Cycle to the gym and do weights in the AM and Judo practice in the PM.
My diet will consist of oatmeal in the AM and veggies/proteins throughout the day. Okra mainly, since they are great for cleaning out the pluming LOL.
I don't know squat about judo but that seems like a lot to loose just before competition. When I was a wrestler and had to make weight I would avoid major quick weight loss. I'd just loose too much strength. Some of my teammates who just couldn't stay away from the donuts would do major drops. I left the weight come off through the pre-season training and a low fat diet with lots of protein. I could do up to a 5 lb loss of water weight through a hard workout to make weight for a match but I still wonder how much weaker I was because of the short recovery time and dehydration. Good luck to Ya in the competition! Hope you do the DMF proud!
I once was so poor that I practically lived on Okra and tomatoes [puke] [puke]. Hard times make us stronger [clap]
Quote from: akmnstr on February 28, 2011, 06:05:17 AM
I don't know squat about judo but that seems like a lot to loose just before competition. When I was a wrestler and had to make weight I would avoid major quick weight loss. I'd just loose too much strength. Some of my teammates who just couldn't stay away from the donuts would do major drops. I left the weight come off through the pre-season training and a low fat diet with lots of protein. I could do up to a 5 lb loss of water weight through a hard workout to make weight for a match but I still wonder how much weaker I was because of the short recovery time and dehydration. Good luck to Ya in the competition! Hope you do the DMF proud!
I once was so poor that I practically lived on Okra and tomatoes [puke] [puke]. Hard times make us stronger [clap]
haha okra and tomatoes, may have to try that!
Actually, I was the same way in wrestling, I could only cut so much because it was so intense. Judo is a LOT more technique based and requires that you use your opponents force to you're advantage, thus allowing me to drop the weight since I rely less on strength etc.
Here's a cool video that gets me amp'd before practice.
best of judo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-BoM-WokY#normal)
Quote from: akmnstr on February 28, 2011, 06:05:17 AM
I don't know squat about judo but that seems like a lot to loose just before competition. When I was a wrestler and had to make weight I would avoid major quick weight loss. I'd just loose too much strength. Some of my teammates who just couldn't stay away from the donuts would do major drops. I left the weight come off through the pre-season training and a low fat diet with lots of protein. I could do up to a 5 lb loss of water weight through a hard workout to make weight for a match but I still wonder how much weaker I was because of the short recovery time and dehydration. Good luck to Ya in the competition! Hope you do the DMF proud!
I once was so poor that I practically lived on Okra and tomatoes [puke] [puke]. Hard times make us stronger [clap]
you can safely drop 10-20 lbs in a 24 hour period and perform well if the weigh-in is the day or night before the competition, if your recomp. is done well immediately after weigh-in.
If weigh-in is the day of competition, short term weightloss is not a good idea.
Two-a-days suck, that is all! :'(
Oh and dieting sucks more, that is all! [bang]
I've been segwaying into a full time cycling fitness program. I was suprised at how much my legs regressed during my 2 month hiatus from cycling. I hope to have my 'road legs' back by next week. I rode the last 4 days and put in over 100 miles so today's my day off (for legs anyway). I'll be at the gym after work doing upper body and core routine. Then back on my bike tomorrow.
10.5 mile bike ride on rolling hills during my lunch break today. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on March 02, 2011, 12:10:40 PM
10.5 mile bike ride on rolling hills during my lunch break today. [thumbsup]
Nice! [thumbsup]
I've thought about that, but the time it would take to gear up I'd be well into my 30min lunch.
Put in 50 miles on my road bike today! You know spring is here when you get 2 things - 1) New cycling tan lines, 2) sunburn to boot!!
Note to self - buy sunscreen. [thumbsup]
Balancing the checkbook this weekend incriminated me in a week-long fastfood binge.
Damn it.
The weight room becons.
In preparation for a race that we've got in just 4 weeks, we went out to do some road work that really put the emphasis on climbing.
Here's a picture that my sweetheart took of me nearing the top of a hill lovingly referred to as King Kong:
(http://a1.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/150/d50abc4f70ea4ec88f5308801d18bc01/l.jpg)
It's a beast of a hill - the whole area is a climbers dream! The longest climb up Usery Pass starts out at 1,459 feet and shoots up to 2,089 feet in a long and grueling 3.5 mile climb. I couldn't fathom what the percentage of the grade is, but it's one challenging climb!
I've got to get to the gym today for some upper body and core work, but a majority of this week will be dedicated to cardio, road work, hill repeats, and a day of sprint work.
Not sure if most people around here are familiar with StackExchange, but they have a new site opening up tomorrow: http://fitness.stackexchange.com/. (http://fitness.stackexchange.com/.) Should be a decent collection of information over time.
I got my first tapout(s) today. I'm always getting paired up with blue belts in BJJ and today, I choked one out and threw the other with a shoulder throw into a Kimura (arm entanglement).
Should of seen the face of the guy being thrown, upon landing he had this dazed and confused look of WTF. Good day it was!
Training up for a 13.1 run at the end of the month then a sprint Duathlon the next week. Need motivation to run this week
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 08, 2011, 03:51:22 PM
I got my first tapout(s) today. I'm always getting paired up with blue belts in BJJ and today, I choked one out and threw the other with a shoulder throw into a Kimura (arm entanglement).
Should of seen the face of the guy being thrown, upon landing he had this dazed and confused look of WTF. Good day it was!
Congrats man! I keep finding that I'm getting really good at D'arce chokes. Fake the takedown, sink it in, they never expect it.
Cannot pull a kimura off to save my life though.
Do you do Gi or no-Gi?
Well, time for me to post up here...
September of last year i was around 187. I had been dropping weight from the 205 range since April '10. Kayaking, running the dog, swimming, that sort of thing. Nothing terribly serious, but plenty of activity. Moved to south Texas, got lazy/preocupied went back up to 195 by the end of December.
Now, I'm at 207. I feel disgusting. It's time to drop the weight, and keep it off.
Quote from: El Matador on March 08, 2011, 09:43:37 PM
Congrats man! I keep finding that I'm getting really good at D'arce chokes. Fake the takedown, sink it in, they never expect it.
Cannot pull a kimura off to save my life though.
Do you do Gi or no-Gi?
I do mainly Gi since I'm a Judoka first, I started training BJJ to round out my game. We practice no-gi, and my throws work better in no-gi since the clinch is close and I no longer need to bridge the gap like in gi sparring.
I have wrestled in high school but that's 11 years ago, but, my clinch game remains unchanged.
One thing I noticed, coming from Judo to BJJ, I now have a LOT of time to work on positions and subs. In Judo, we have 5 seconds to make progress or they stand us back up. [bang]
Who are you training with?
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 09, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
I do mainly Gi since I'm a Judoka first, I started training BJJ to round out my game. We practice no-gi, and my throws work better in no-gi since the clinch is close and I no longer need to bridge the gap like in gi sparring.
I have wrestled in high school but that's 11 years ago, but, my clinch game remains unchanged.
One thing I noticed, coming from Judo to BJJ, I now have a LOT of time to work on positions and subs. In Judo, we have 5 seconds to make progress or they stand us back up. [bang]
Who are you training with?
I'm training with Ronny Lis here in austin. He's awesome. His Jiu Jitsu is actually derived straight from Maeda through Franca and not the Gracies; it's geared more towards MMA than just pure grappling.
I like being able to work on positioning, but goddamn, after 10 minutes of rolling I'm completely wasted.
Who do you train with?
Quote from: El Matador on March 09, 2011, 08:17:26 AM
after 10 minutes of rolling I'm completely wasted.
yea thats about how long it takes. :P Wait are we talking about smoking or jits?
Quote from: El Matador on March 09, 2011, 08:17:26 AM
I'm training with Ronny Lis here in austin. He's awesome. His Jiu Jitsu is actually derived straight from Maeda through Franca and not the Gracies; it's geared more towards MMA than just pure grappling.
I like being able to work on positioning, but goddamn, after 10 minutes of rolling I'm completely wasted.
Who do you train with?
Judo, I'm with Tidewater Judo Club in VA Beach.
BJJ, I train with Gustavo Machado: Roberto "Gordo" Corrêa de Lima > Carlos Gracie Jr. > Carlos Gracie Sr. > Mitsuo "Count Koma" Maeda > Jigoro Kano.
One thing I admire about BJJ is that their lineage can be tracked. I feel that I'm getting the newaza portion of the sport directly through Kano Sensei.
I started cross training since I figured it provides more opportunities for me to roll and it opens up avenues for more competitions and sport Judo is getting watered down due to Olympic exposure. :'(
Another day another dollar! We got to do no-gi stand up and I was hip tossing w/sweep (harai Goshi) everyone in the gym. What sucked was the Purples getting there revenge on me.... [bang]
12 round private lesson of all boxing yesterday... The head instructor insisted that I needed to tune up my hands before moving on to the next level of training. After kickboxing for five years, having to fight without kicks and knees felt totally foreign. I sweated out four pounds during the lesson, and I'm pretty sure two pounds was just from the stress of reminding myself to not kick.
So, to celebrate the weightloss, I took the wife and kids to the local Mexican overeatery. Chile relenos and shrimp fajitas!
Quote from: dropstharockalot on March 10, 2011, 07:09:31 AM
12 round private lesson of all boxing yesterday... The head instructor insisted that I needed to tune up my hands before moving on to the next level of training. After kickboxing for five years, having to fight without kicks and knees felt totally foreign. I sweated out four pounds during the lesson, and I'm pretty sure two pounds was just from the stress of reminding myself to not kick.
So, to celebrate the weightloss, I took the wife and kids to the local Mexican overeatery. Chile relenos and shrimp fajitas!
NICE! I love boxing, I have a BB in Shotokan karate and I remember feeling the exact same way when I started boxing.
Put in 35 miles yesterday after work on my road bike. I'm not sure what to do about today - it's 85 degrees here and though I want to go to the gym, I also am jonesing to ride too...
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 10, 2011, 10:04:23 AM
Put in 35 miles yesterday after work on my road bike. I'm not sure what to do about today - it's 85 degrees here and though I want to go to the gym, I also am jonesing to ride too...
Do it! It's raining and 50 degrees here, otherwise I would ride too.
There are days when I really am glad to be working out at the gym, but when the weather's nice, I just hate being indoors.
While the wife was up in Alaska for 3 weeks I returned to the bottom feeder lifestyle of decadence and bad food. But it was good bad food, pizza, ice cream, popcorn, and chocolate [popcorn] [popcorn]. Last time I ran I felt like I was pushing a truck too. My sweety is now back and I have 5 to 7 lbs to drop. Veggies are starting to come in from the garden so the diet adjustment has already been made. After work I'm running 3 miles, it should be 4, but I'm still pushing that damn truck so it'll be 3.
Today was bitter sweet. I ordered a new suit two weeks ago... It comes in, I try it on, and it fits looser then previously worn. Glad to see some visual progress since i'm not dropping much weight at all. [beer]
Just finished my first p90x session .. kicks ass.. now some pasta n freshly boiled crabs... only problem is, I dnt know which order to go in.. got it from my cousin in-law who just left today for army boot camp.. he burned them on separate disc..
FWIW - if you're trying to lean down you shouldn't be chowing on carbs after the routine - rather you should eat them an hour or two before. If you're bulking up, then CHOW DOWN!! ;D
I love foods that happen to be loaded with carbs....I think in a previous life that I must have been Italian. [cheeky]
I'm trying to stay at 185 or go up to 190.. I eat about 4-6 big meals a day.. after about 2 weeks ill start going to the gym just to do dead lifts, squats, dips n pullups with weights n shoulder shrugs (4 plates on each side for 10 reps).. just heavy lifting and the p90x for burn n tone..
sorry...I wasn't meaning to sound like I was telling you what to do. I just know some people though who have made that mistake over and over again. They try to loose weight and get frustrated because they work so hard but they don't see that it's their eating habits that are (weight wise) holding them in the same place.
Its cool.. I didn't take it any way.. even though I haven't kept up with it, I use to be a trainer and study nutrition.. hence the sig quote about the wife..
Quote from: cokey on March 10, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Its cool.. I didn't take it any way.. even though I haven't kept up with it, I use to be a trainer and study nutrition.. hence the sig quote about the wife..
[thumbsup]
well today was supposed to be an easy day at judo since I have a competition Saturday...So what do they do, they make me drill my ass off and fight all the black belts....
Tomorrow= rest day!
Yesterday was my rest day - back to it today. I have an easy 5K and then teach aerobics tonight.
Quote from: dolci on March 11, 2011, 04:58:00 AM
Yesterday was my rest day - back to it today. I have an easy 5K and then teach aerobics tonight.
back at 'em! (I suppose we need a workout smiley for this thread alone).
February was my rest month. Later in March I have an easy 5k, then I'll sit and watch an aerobics class.
Quote from: Statler on March 11, 2011, 07:03:00 AM
back at 'em! (I suppose we need a workout smiley for this thread alone).
February was my rest month. Later in March I have an easy 5k, then I'll sit and watch an aerobics class.
Statler:
(http://www.chrisnormann.com/WorkoutSmiley.gif)
dolci:
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u132/beedah2/Smiley/7255F5255F142.gif)
That shit is funny. Made my day. Thx, MonsterDave.
Quote from: Statler on March 11, 2011, 07:46:15 AM
That shit is funny. Made my day. Thx, MonsterDave.
Any time! [thumbsup]
Just got back from my tournament and took 3rd. I sprained my knee in the bracket before so I knew it was going to be a rough one. I almost had my opponent (fight for 2nd place) with a cross collar choke but the ref stood us back up, in which case, he slammed me into next week. [bang]
It was a good day though! Now I need to heal up the knee and train.
wait you dont eat carbs after workout? I carb bomb before my workouts (50-60grams of complex carbs from oatmeal, sweet potatoes or watever i can get my hands on at the momment) and i also do some carbs afterwords (like 20grams).
I was doing 30gram carbs before work outs and i just felt sluggish. with 50-60, even 70 grams (my favorite is honey with oatmeal) i feel much better.
bulldogs2k, sounds pretty bad ass! 3rd is just motivation to be better! sprained knees suck. I had a sprained toe that only is now beginning to heal (3 months). I pretty much had to lock it up with tape every day and i stopped kicking entrirely just to stay away from the possibiliy of a rogue hit.
I took my stresses out from work on the road today and put in just over 20 miles on my road bike. Now that I've got my new bike all dialed in, I was flying. Over the 20 miles I maintained an average speed of 21mph. It was outrageous - on hill climbs where I had been climbing at 13-15mph I was at 18-20mph!
From a fitness standpoint, I did learn something interesting - because of the lighter weight of my new bike (18lbs down from 23lbs), I was able to go faster with less effort than before. So rather than burn 1200 or so calories, I only burned 830! This was actually something that I hadn't anticipated and pretty cool. That result tells me that there's more than enough room for improvement with my new steed to work harder and go faster!
My ultimate goal this year is to complete at least several races in platinum time - which depending on the distance, can mean holding an average speed of 24mph or better. While that's faster than where I'm at now, when you're riding with the peloton is much easier thanks to drafting. If I could do that, I think that would put me at a performance level able to compete with CAT 1 or 2 level cyclists.
Ultimatly, it was an exhilarating ride, a beautiful day, and a great stress reliever! [thumbsup]
Quote from: He Man on March 13, 2011, 06:09:34 PM
bulldogs2k, sounds pretty bad ass! 3rd is just motivation to be better! sprained knees suck. I had a sprained toe that only is now beginning to heal (3 months). I pretty much had to lock it up with tape every day and i stopped kicking entrirely just to stay away from the possibiliy of a rogue hit.
I don't feel like I'm training if I don't have at least one broken toe... I'm not sure I'd be able to fight.
Most recently, I fired a middle round kick into my pad holder's elbow. His bad - wrong hold for the technique. Regardless, the small bones on the top of my right foot took the hit. It's about four colors and roughly the size of a football. It should make training today pretty interesting.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on March 15, 2011, 07:05:23 AM
I don't feel like I'm training if I don't have at least one broken toe... I'm not sure I'd be able to fight.
Most recently, I fired a middle round kick into my pad holder's elbow. His bad - wrong hold for the technique. Regardless, the small bones on the top of my right foot took the hit. It's about four colors and roughly the size of a football. It should make training today pretty interesting.
Haha I just went through that last november. The wrestling mats where too soft, resulting in a sprained toe. Lower extremity injuries SUCK!
Noticed my elbow joints bother during certain exercises; chinup more then pullups.. suggestions?
Quote from: cokey on March 15, 2011, 09:47:59 AM
Noticed my elbow joints bother during certain exercises; chinup more then pullups.. suggestions?
(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/AORM4K1z39BfWmfW0XGnLl7CH0b15Kb-x6WDnaHCSaaPAMQF7JJ7emBA4q6q-5EjVcKyuks4j60mSmULBuO7uKg9Ss16E2qYvqNIM_yERhpUmmpzBHX1oZFqdSTic_YXtqpiODJA)
Do you feel it when you do other "pulling" exercises?
That stuff doesn't do anything. Save your money.
Quote from: cokey on March 15, 2011, 09:47:59 AM
Noticed my elbow joints bother during certain exercises; chinup more then pullups.. suggestions?
Need more info... location of pain, type of pain, injury history, ongoing conditions, etc...?
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
"Stop doing that."
Quote from: dropstharockalot on March 15, 2011, 07:05:23 AM
Most recently, I fired a middle round kick into my pad holder's elbow. His bad - wrong hold for the technique. Regardless, the small bones on the top of my right foot took the hit. It's about four colors and roughly the size of a football. It should make training today pretty interesting.
A sparring partner did that to himself on me some years back. He mistimed a round kick and clipped me as I was moving away - top of foot to my very pointy elbow and cracked the top of his foot... oop.
Insides of elbows onlywhen I do pullups, palms facing me.. injuries, never had any.. just started few months ago.. just turned 31 and played almost every sport from ages 10-21 then after tht only handball biking n blading and wrenching.
Last night anothee p90x night.. here was my dinner, dave shld aprove lol. (http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/cokey2/IMG_20110315_215518.jpg)
BEANS!!!! best food in the world. Fiber Protein, Low fat and make the beast with two backsing delicious. im having braised beef right now. onions, beef chucks and mushrooms. i forgot to put in carrots and peppers. didnt occur to me when i was buying stuff.
shrooms, yuck.. -_-
Quote from: sugarcrook on March 15, 2011, 05:35:59 PM
That stuff doesn't do anything. Save your money.
+1
Seemed to make my knees worse.....
Quote from: He Man on March 16, 2011, 10:53:49 AM
BEANS!!!! best food in the world. Fiber Protein, Low fat and make the beast with two backsing delicious. im having braised beef right now. onions, beef chucks and mushrooms. i forgot to put in carrots and peppers. didnt occur to me when i was buying stuff.
Man, Don't forget your veggies.
Speaking of which my garden is starting to come in, which means I'm eating lots of veggies and less starch and carbs. I also loose weight when my gardens start to produce which in my case, is a very good thing.
Quote from: Speedbag on March 16, 2011, 12:56:07 PM
+1
Seemed to make my knees worse.....
Now
that I call BS. Especially when it's been clinically proven to improve joint health. It's more likely that you took it and kept training hard expecting it to be a cure for a problem when it's not designed to be such.
Question: can you make yourself sore from stretching too much??
Seems like an odd question, but I've been really sore (seemingly) from cycling. But it dawned on me this morning that I've been spending a LOT of time stretching (30 mins a day) and wondered if that could be contributing to slow recovery time from trauma on the muscle tissue.
if you're really aggressive about the stretch yes - it'll make you sore. Though most times this only happens with some sort of assisted stretch, or if you're bouncing. IF you're doing a lot of other work like you are, small incremental progression is the key. You can increase your range of motion pretty quickly by moving in small steps, and you save yourself some wear and tear
Quote from: Sad Panda on March 18, 2011, 10:24:44 AM
if you're really aggressive about the stretch yes - it'll make you sore. Though most times this only happens with some sort of assisted stretch, or if you're bouncing. IF you're doing a lot of other work like you are, small incremental progression is the key. You can increase your range of motion pretty quickly by moving in small steps, and you save yourself some wear and tear
Yeah, I think I've gone a bit Gung-ho with the stretching. My flexibility has increased pretty dramatically because I am putting a lot of effort into it, however what I'm noticing is that if I miss a day, my legs are really tight the next - so I haven't backed off; maybe I should.
I'm wondering if it's like when I started rock climbing and my finger tendons hurt for a solid month, then one day it all went away.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 18, 2011, 10:31:55 AM
Yeah, I think I've gone a bit Gung-ho with the stretching. My flexibility has increased pretty dramatically because I am putting a lot of effort into it, however what I'm noticing is that if I miss a day, my legs are really tight the next - so I haven't backed off; maybe I should.
Sounds like a little moderation is due. But you do push pretty hard so some tightness later on is natural, especially if you miss a day.
Key elements are not to go too hard, just hard enough (yeah it's a judgment call), moving slowly into each the bottom of each stretch - bouncing or jerky movement is a good way to tear or strain, and be warm - active or passive warm up doesn't matter there. When I say passive, I'm talking a hot shower, sauna etc to bring up you temp and help make things more elastic.
March 13th - i ranted about sprained toe.
March 16th - said toe broke.
taking a few days off from training, monday i am no longer kicking or doing anything fast paced for the next 6 weeks.
PAIN! PAIN
IN MY TOES! IN MY TOES
PAIN! PAIN
EVERYWHERE! EVERYWHERE!
Quote from: Sad Panda on March 18, 2011, 10:41:44 AM
Sounds like a little moderation is due. But you do push pretty hard so some tightness later on is natural, especially if you miss a day.
Key elements are not to go too hard, just hard enough (yeah it's a judgment call), moving slowly into each the bottom of each stretch - bouncing or jerky movement is a good way to tear or strain, and be warm - active or passive warm up doesn't matter there. When I say passive, I'm talking a hot shower, sauna etc to bring up you temp and help make things more elastic.
One of the problems that I routinely wrestle with by being very self motivated is that I often forget about things like employing a little 'moderation' in my routine. Usually it's not too much of a problem, but I miss otherwise obvious signs that my body needs a break.
I've got a training ride planned for Sunday morning, so between now and then I'll back it down a little and see how much better I feel by then. Thanks for the input!
Quote from: He Man on March 18, 2011, 10:44:02 AM
PAIN! PAIN
IN MY TOES! IN MY TOES
PAIN! PAIN
EVERYWHERE! EVERYWHERE!
Sorry to hear about the injury He Man. I know how that must feel - I broke (
totally by accident) my sweetie's toe a few years ago and saw the pain that she had until it healed.
How?? Well, we were on the beach in California one afternoon playing around and I tried to pull her into the water...bad idea....when I did, she resisted and her foot slipped in the sand and it smacked into the back of my heel...poor thing...the end result was a little broken toe.
...man, I still feel bad about that.... :-\
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 16, 2011, 02:33:17 PM
Now that I call BS. Especially when it's been clinically proven to improve joint health. It's more likely that you took it and kept training hard expecting it to be a cure for a problem when it's not designed to be such.
glucosamine and chondroitin have both been shown in the last few years of studies to be relatively useless. MSM might be of some benefit, but not enough research yet.
Edit to add: a daily dose of of omega 3 fish oil will do far more for joint health than all the glucosamine and chondroitin you can swallow.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 18, 2011, 11:03:31 AM
Sorry to hear about the injury He Man. I know how that must feel - I broke (totally by accident) my sweetie's toe a few years ago and saw the pain that she had until it healed.
How?? Well, we were on the beach in California one afternoon playing around and I tried to pull her into the water...bad idea....when I did, she resisted and her foot slipped in the sand and it smacked into the back of my heel...poor thing...the end result was a little broken toe.
...man, I still feel bad about that.... :-\
As well you should! >:(
Hey Hey Hey you two, lets minimize the smooching and maximize the not so serious getting fit! ;)
Quote from: djrashonal on March 21, 2011, 01:56:25 PM
Hey Hey Hey you two, lets minimize the smooching and maximize the not so serious getting fit! ;)
[laugh]
Ok. [thumbsup]
I did a 30 mile bike ride yesterday on a 10 mile course. It was windy as heck (15-20mph winds) but I still managed a steady 30mins per 10 mile lap.
Found a great deal on L-Glutamine at Walmart:
(http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/07/43/12/05/0007431205577_180X180.jpg)
$11.47
60 Servings
Regular price - compare at 29.99 over at GNC (and this brand actually dissolves completely in water)!
Looks like it's only carried at select locations (newer, bigger stores). Online there's a zip code check to see who carries it in your location.
[thumbsup]
I also found a good price on:
(http://www.allamericanswim.com/images/JB-Cherry.jpg)
.96 cents each. Locally, REI and other sport shops sell these for about $1.25-$1.50 each!
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Love those sport beans! i think there is a pro-deal on them through promotive
Quote from: djrashonal on March 22, 2011, 05:43:37 PM
Love those sport beans! i think there is a pro-deal on them through promotive
There is, buuuuuut the kicker with that is that there's an $8 shipping fee, and a $2 transaction fee, so by the time you get your total price, it's about .10 cents cheaper than retail. Honey Stinger has a much better deal!
[thumbsup]
ugh, i hate that, did you find the sport beans at walmart as well?
Gotta love the pro-deals. 8)
And Honey Stinger is an AWESOME company!!!
Anytime they come out with a new product, they send a case our way to taste test. [drool]
Hammer is great company as well. They are my favorite nutrition products. [thumbsup]
I'm resposible for the nutrition in our store (Fleet Feet). If anyone has any questions on a specific product don't hessitate to ask.
Sport Beans are my least fav. Too sugary and too hard to chew.
Quote from: djrashonal on March 22, 2011, 06:43:09 PM
ugh, i hate that, did you find the sport beans at walmart as well?
Yeah. [thumbsup]
But again, they too are only at select locations.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on March 22, 2011, 06:45:40 PM
Gotta love the pro-deals. 8)
And Honey Stinger is an AWESOME company!!!
Anytime they come out with a new product, they send a case our way to taste test. [drool]
Hammer is great company as well. They are my favorite nutrition products. [thumbsup]
I'm resposible for the nutrition in our store (Fleet Feet). If anyone has any questions on a specific product don't hessitate to ask.
Sport Beans are my least fav. Too sugary and too hard to chew.
I've only had a few of the Honey Stinger gels (and liked them) but I'm suprised to hear you say that you find the Sport Beans too sugary since the honey is so sweet. I agree the beans are harder to chew (especially when breathing heavy), that's why these are my fav:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSb_2YTMO5_ui9ce8XdvJzvi8ITYpE0d77MtO4yx7aRBSsHTu0&t=1)
Mountain Berry is awesome! They are all easy to chew and do a good job. Since you work at Fleet Feet and deal with nutrition for athletes regularly, I'm sure that you know that you have to mix up the nutritional intake to maintain proper absorption levels. The beans give me some variety along with some other Clif gels. The caffeine in the Extreme Beans is nice too for that extra little kick when you're really feeling the burn.
I've not tried any Hammer products yet, but hope to one day soon!
I'm jealous of all you guys working out, i'm stuck watching Judo/BJJ since my knee is still stiff. :'(
Quote from: bulldogs2k on March 22, 2011, 06:59:20 PM
I'm jealous of all you guys working out, i'm stuck watching Judo/BJJ since my knee is still stiff. :'(
That sucks amigo. How soon until you think it'll be able to handle practice again?
you cna always workout other parts of your body.
with my broken toe, i cannot work out my calfs. i cannot kick and i cannot clinch, but im still punching nad working out my legs and upper body.
Pain didn't stop the Vandammage:
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_pmwy2UvCQJM/SUMpXTjEVLI/AAAAAAAABIk/prpem_8rSx8/kicking%20tree.jpg)
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 22, 2011, 07:26:03 PM
That sucks amigo. How soon until you think it'll be able to handle practice again?
I was going light until I tried to counter a take down and fell on my knee, which put me back a few days. I've been resting up the last few days and attending class, I just sit out during rolling sessions.
It's tough watching everyone play...
I know what you mean. I hurt my arm a few years back while rock climbing and had to take a full year with no weights or climbing - it was hard at first, but once I refocused on cardio my attention shifted long enough to get me through it.
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 22, 2011, 09:54:37 PM
Pain didn't stop the Vandammage:
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_pmwy2UvCQJM/SUMpXTjEVLI/AAAAAAAABIk/prpem_8rSx8/kicking%20tree.jpg)
no, but Chuck Zito did ;)
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 23, 2011, 07:32:43 AM
I know what you mean. I hurt my arm a few years back while rock climbing and had to take a full year with no weights or climbing - it was hard at first, but once I refocused on cardio my attention shifted long enough to get me through it.
I didnt know you climbed. Lemme know if you wanna hit rocks and ropes or take a run up some sport routes/bouldering on mt lemmon sometime!
Quote from: djrashonal on March 24, 2011, 12:16:30 AM
I didnt know you climbed. Lemme know if you wanna hit rocks and ropes or take a run up some sport routes/bouldering on mt lemmon sometime!
It's been a while - but I really enjoy it! "Rocks and Ropes" is that an indoor gym?
Bouldering was such a challenge, I liked the technical moves though - in fact, that's what I liked about climbing in general. [thumbsup]
Yea rocks and ropes is downtown off of tool st. It's an ok gym. The bouldering cave I kinda disappointing but they have some good climbs. I used to climb a lot and I've been looking at getting back into it...though it probably won't help with my efforts to trim down. Any other climbers on here?
Missed a week and a half with the lates sinus infection... heading back to training today oughta have me gasping like a fish out of water.
First one back is always the hardest.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on March 25, 2011, 08:12:20 AM
First one back is always the hardest.
I totally agree.
I hopped on the scale this morning and am down 5lbs since the start of cycling season. Shifting from the gym to cycling has been a challenge for me this year because I really loved my routine at the gym, but to be effective and to make strides with cycling, I had to drop it for a while. So now that I've got a solid regimen worked out with cycling, I've added 2 days of a weight routine back into the mix. If I'm not too exhausted, and my cycling isn't negatively effected, I may add an optional 3rd day.
As it stands now though, when my head hits the pillow at the end of the day I'm out like a light. I've already started making a gradual adjustment with my wakeup time and am currently crawling out of bed at 4:30 and rolling on my bike by about 10 till 6am if I'm on schedule. As the sun comes up earlier, I'll be getting up and out that much earlier too. But it's hard; I can cycle in the morning, but I've never been able to do a weight routine effectively early in the morning without feeling like I was going through hell.
So, I've been looking at refreshing my music playlist and thought it might be something that others would be interested in doing too.
What's your favorite music for:
1) Weight Lifting
2) Cardio
3) Cool Down
?
For weight lifting it is Led Zeppelin, Almond Brothers, Kenny Wayne Sheppard but I'm thinking of adding grunge bands.
For Cardo. I run outside and listen to the birds singing.
For cool down, if outside more birds and inside see weight lifting.
Quote from: akmnstr on March 28, 2011, 09:31:34 AM
For weight lifting it is Led Zeppelin, Almond Brothers, Kenny Wayne Sheppard but I'm thinking of adding grunge bands.
For Cardo. I run outside and listen to the birds singing.
For cool down, if outside more birds and inside see weight lifting.
[cheeky]
I find that my workouts are more effective with the appropriate music to motivate me.
For lifting - Disturbed, Rammstein, Van Halen, The Rocky, Matrix, and Mortal Kombat soundtracks.
For Cardio - I have an extensive list - usually high bpm songs.
Cool Down - ??
We're less than a week out from the next bicycle race that we're doing, so this past weekend was my last chance to put in a good training ride. I put in 80 miles with a pretty good 15-20mph headwind for half of the way. It seemed like no matter what way I was pointing the wind was there to push back. Burned over 3000 calories, kept an average speed of 21.5mph.
...it caught up with me last night though, I passed out at 5pm from exhaustion and slept 12 hours!!
How many rest days do u take before a race?
Quote from: cokey on March 28, 2011, 10:50:39 AM
How many rest days do u take before a race?
For this upcoming race which is 72 miles, I anticipate to taper down and/or do real easy maintenance rides until 2 days prior to race day, then take those 2 days completely off.
Great day for a run!!
Spring is trying really hard to break free from winter.
To clarify, not a fan of the Honey Stinger gels (too sticky/sweet), just all their other products. [thumbsup]
Ran in the Dallas Rock n Roll Half Marathon yesterday and PR'd at 2:02:31 (9:21pace). Not bad for my third go at that distance. I had originally planned to go for sub 2 hours, but a chest cold in the middle of last week had me thinking of taking it easy and doing 10+m/m if not walking/jogging. Woke up and felt good (but not 100%) yesterday so I decided to just run by feel instead of worrying about metrics. There's something to be said about just enjoying the run. Wouldn't you know it, I came in at pretty much my goal time without even pushing hard for it. Beat the previous PR by over 15 minutes [thumbsup]
Definitely a testiment to the 'not too serious get fit thread'
Oh yeah, no music at all for me during warm-up/routine/cooldown. I just prefer the time to unplug.
Check this out: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/new (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/new)
This is a great website for mapping runs, walks, cycling routes, even motorcycle rides, but it give you elevations and highlights the area on the map where the elevation changes occur.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Raced on Saturday - 72 miles - 97 degree morning heat...one of the hardest events I done. Things started out great though. For 2/3rds of the route I was on track for a Platinum finish, then came the first flat tire.....then about 10 miles later came another flat tire and only then did I discover that I had used my one and only CO2 cartridge to repair the first flat... [bang]
By the time I got the 2nd tube changed, got back on, and started moving, I was on the low end of the Gold time, but regardless of how hard I tried to push the remaining 20 miles, I crossed the line just over the mark and earned a silver medal.
Overall though, I rode well, made a major break through in understanding the "circle of power", and finished strong. So I've got nothing to really complain about aside from the fact that it was the first weekend of April and actually hit 101 as a high temp!!!
Get better tires ;)
Quote from: cokey on April 04, 2011, 08:26:10 AM
Get better tires ;)
I pulled these little metal shavings out of my tred - I don't think any other tire would have made any difference in this case.
Next race is in 2 weeks - though I've never ridden the course, I hope to have better results then.
Irony; someone probably had a duc on that road.. had to fix something, stripped a bolt and left metal shavings...
Quote from: cokey on April 04, 2011, 11:05:29 AM
Irony; someone probably had a duc on that road.. had to fix something, stripped a bolt and left metal shavings...
LOL
The the real irony would have been hysterical had it impeaded a guy riding a Ducati bicycle. [cheeky]
I ran a mile today but it is too nice to be working out here in key west. Today, I sat on the beach flinging rocks at a coconut tree, suckers are hard to hit but man what a pay off! I've been eating sort of crappy but we'll be doing some snorkeling and kayaking in the next coming days.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on April 04, 2011, 12:36:59 PM
I ran a mile today but it is too nice to be working out here in key west. Today, I sat on the beach flinging rocks at a coconut tree, suckers are hard to hit but man what a pay off! I've been eating sort of crappy but we'll be doing some snorkeling and kayaking in the next coming days.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZOlE-EZe6-UK8A_7fvDDrsCDYLoTcHmXMUS1LDETMEJ-E0izH&t=1)
[laugh]
Just kidding....I'm lamenting the fact that I'm sitting in my office with no windows and know that it's paradise out there...
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 04, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZOlE-EZe6-UK8A_7fvDDrsCDYLoTcHmXMUS1LDETMEJ-E0izH&t=1)
[laugh]
Just kidding....I'm lamenting the fact that I'm sitting in my office with no windows and know that it's paradise out there....
LOLOL glad I didn't see that while sipping on my coconut!
So I was out for a training ride yesterday when I saw something quite surprising and rare.
As I was riding down a path where there was a railing on one side along a canal, I saw something that immediatly got my attention:
(http://www.desertmuseum.org/visit/images/ferg01_450.jpg)
This Furrginous Hawk was just perched on the railing watching people pass by!! I was awestruck at the sheer size and beauty of this rare sight. I must have passed within 3 feet of it and it just looked at me as I went by as though it didn't have a care in the world. The Furrginous Hawk is the largest hawk in North America.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup]
So my new Gi showed up yesterday. It's a little flashier than I expected but the construction quality is amazing. I can't wait to get submitted in style later on today [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: El Matador on April 06, 2011, 09:49:12 AM
So my new Gi showed up yesterday. It's a little flashier than I expected but the construction quality is amazing. I can't wait to get submitted in style later on today [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
??
Gi for jiu-jitsu Dave.
Who made it?
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 06, 2011, 10:06:32 AM
??
i think hes wondering why Jesus thinks its cool to get submitted in style.
wait that sounded so terribly wrong. LOL
I need new Muay Thai shorts. They are make the beast with two backsing expensive for some damn reason. $50 for a nice pair!!!! ITS MADE OF 99cent material!!!!
I did a pretty hardcore workout today. if i dont wtch myself i might be typing in my own vomit. i love it./
[laugh]
Thanks for the clarification guys! [cheeky]
Quote from: He Man on April 06, 2011, 10:13:19 AM
i think hes wondering why Jesus thinks its cool to get submitted in style.
wait that sounded so terribly wrong. LOL
I need new Muay Thai shorts. They are make the beast with two backsing expensive for some damn reason. $50 for a nice pair!!!! ITS MADE OF 99cent material!!!!
I did a pretty hardcore workout today. if i dont wtch myself i might be typing in my own vomit. i love it./
make the beast with two backsing Brown belts [roll] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
http://www.muaythaistuff.com/muay_thai_boxing_shorts.php (http://www.muaythaistuff.com/muay_thai_boxing_shorts.php)
This looks about right
Quote from: Sad Panda on April 06, 2011, 10:08:10 AM
Gi for jiu-jitsu Dave.
Who made it?
Break Point. Got an awesome deal for it. 129 and It came with two sets of pants, a set of light ones for competition and a set of heavies for training.
it's this one right here (Please ignore the stars and shit)
(http://mmaclothing.co.nz/termekek/large/BP%20Light%20weight%20Mens%20Gi%20Black%20Front%20open.jpg)
Check this place out - opened April 2nd in LA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fouvwilGWc&feature=player_embedded#at=61 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fouvwilGWc&feature=player_embedded#at=61)
The sheer aerobic fitness required to do what these people do is amazing.
Quote from: El Matador on April 06, 2011, 12:02:14 PM
make the beast with two backsing Brown belts [roll] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
http://www.muaythaistuff.com/muay_thai_boxing_shorts.php (http://www.muaythaistuff.com/muay_thai_boxing_shorts.php)
you wish. thats shipping from Thai Land, 1 pair of $8.00 shorts is $21 shipping. 2 pairs is $35. 3 pairs of 45.... etc. the $8.00 are made of SHITTY fabric that rip in 2 seconds, so you HAVE to buy atleast $20 pairs that are made of satin.
While talking about acquiring new equipment, you guys made me remember a funny but painful memory from when I used to be a student at an Okinawan Shorin-Ryu school of Karate.
This was years ago, prior to my time competing in USKK tournaments where I knew what I was doing. But I very vividly recall purchasing my first set of nunchucks, and in my hast to try to figure out how to use them, I have a very clear recollection of wacking myself in the back of the head with them... [laugh]
Given that they were wood, that smarted a little....but I never made that mistake again!!! [cheeky]
Ironically, while going through some things, I recently found them in a box along with my set of practice sai. [thumbsup]
The memory of wacking myself in the head kept me from doing anything fancy with them when I pulled them out of the box!! It's been too long, and I don't need history to repeat itself!!
I can do one thing in that video.....sliding down the ramp because for 99% of those moves I'd end up on my ass so I might as well start there. That video is inspiring, wish they had a place like that here.
Quote from: muskrat on April 07, 2011, 09:03:59 AM
That video is inspiring, wish they had a place like that here.
Meeee toooo. [thumbsup]
In keeping with the "Not too serious" theme, I got up early to go running this morning.
After feeding the dogs, I decided I wouldn't have time, so I took a 30 minute nap instead...
Maybe tomorrow...
Yeah, maybe not. It's gonna rain. :P
[bacon]
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on April 07, 2011, 09:12:58 AM
In keeping with the "Not too serious" theme, I got up early to go running this morning.
After feeding the dogs, I decided I wouldn't have time, so I took a 30 minute nap instead...
Maybe tomorrow...
Yeah, maybe not. It's gonna rain. :P
[bacon]
Run in the rain!! Be all Rocky like. [thumbsup]
Quote from: El Matador on April 06, 2011, 09:49:12 AM
So my new Gi showed up yesterday. It's a little flashier than I expected but the construction quality is amazing. I can't wait to get submitted in style later on today [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Ninja fantasies ensuing in 5, 4, 3, 2, ....TMI?
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 07, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
Ninja fantasies ensuing in 5, 4, 3, 2, ....TMI?
(http://th242.photobucket.com/albums/ff258/truckthis/emoticons/th_thaikido.gif)
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 07, 2011, 05:12:46 PM
(http://th242.photobucket.com/albums/ff258/truckthis/emoticons/th_thaikido.gif)
what kind of ninja shows his face???
Any of you guys use creatine on cycle or for the really hard post workout days?
I use Cell-mass for 2 days after a hardcore leg workout. There is a big difference when i use it vs when i dont. Not that i get stronger or whatever, but soley in teh fact that im just not as sore. it aids tremendously with recover. I am not sure if straight creatine monohydrate will do this (its much cheaper too).
Quote from: He Man on April 07, 2011, 09:36:11 PM
Any of you guys use creatine on cycle or for the really hard post workout days?
I use Cell-mass for 2 days after a hardcore leg workout. There is a big difference when i use it vs when i dont. Not that i get stronger or whatever, but soley in teh fact that im just not as sore. it aids tremendously with recover. I am not sure if straight creatine monohydrate will do this (its much cheaper too).
I did for a while, but I really had a problem with feeling bloated from the water retention. It would drive me nutz when my otherwise flat stomach would bulge outward from the creatine. I finally said screw it and never went back - and have been very happy that I let it go.
No explode. No water bloating..
NO Explode is more of a pre workout thing with loads of caffeine. I dont enjoy it. I am just looking for a night time thing to take. Cell mass does make me a bit bloated, but i take it at night so its not a big deal for me.
True.. I did the cell mas thing back in 03-04.. didn't like the acidity levels thgh..
Well, in the spirit of "not to serious," I was at the beach...again :D It's a workout trying to knock those coconuts out of the tree!
(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k561/acris007/DSCN0139.jpg)
Coconut juice is a great sports drink btw...so we biked around the whole island of Key West!
(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k561/acris007/DSCN0195.jpg)
I'm officially hooked on camping, it's the cheapest way to stay anywhere, so much so, I want to buy a truck and light camper trailer to camp around the U.S.
Cheers! [laugh]
Quote from: bulldogs2k on April 08, 2011, 06:12:42 PM
Well, in the spirit of "not to serious," I was at the beach...again :D It's a workout trying to knock those coconuts out of the tree!
ur doing it wrong, climb those trees!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/__WCKsvKd7HA/TZ_CJ4CjVOI/AAAAAAAACkQ/a8vapgGA5EY/s512/IMG_7105-1.JPG)
Is that picture from the Philippines? I feel like I should know how to climb those trees since I am Filipino but throwing rocks seemed easier lol. [laugh]
Quote from: bulldogs2k on April 08, 2011, 07:28:11 PM
Is that picture from the Philippines? I feel like I should know how to climb those trees since I am Filipino but throwing rocks seemed easier lol. [laugh]
Yeah! Its one of the local boys going for some coconut or maybe a kite.
Just got back from my first mountain bike ride in a LOOOONG time...
I was only out for about an hour... 4.5 miles. [laugh] [bang] :'(
Lots of climbing walking... :-\
[bacon]
I should be a little more serious about getting fit at the moment, since I have an 86-mile roadie ride in 5 short weeks, but <insert excuse here>.
I did get out on the roadie today for a nice 29 mile ride.
Hopefully I'll have time and the weather will cooperate tomorrow for a little hill climb.
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on April 09, 2011, 07:22:03 PM
Just got back from my first mountain bike ride in a LOOOONG time...
I was only out for about an hour... 4.5 miles. [laugh] [bang] :'(
Lots of climbing walking... :-\
[bacon]
But you made it out, so [thumbsup]
I'm having the worst luck with illness and training... I'd just gotten over missing a week due to sinus problems and gotten back in the gym when allergies put me on my back for a solid week. I haven't had an allergy problem this bad since about 2002, but we caught an unseasonably warm couple of days here in the Midwest and it seems to have f'd everything up.
Light workout today just to get the blood pumping and test out the breathing, then back to full Muay Thai classes tomorrow.
grumble grumble grumble
Quote from: He Man on April 08, 2011, 08:10:27 AM
NO Explode is more of a pre workout thing with loads of caffeine. I dont enjoy it. I am just looking for a night time thing to take. Cell mass does make me a bit bloated, but i take it at night so its not a big deal for me.
yeah........cheap creatine before bed makes the bloat thing a non-issue for most. If you want to get anal about your creatine, you can mix it with a little dextrose and 200mg of alpha lipoic acid. There is some research that shows many non-resonders will respond with the addition of a simple carbohydrate.
Honestly, next to a protein supplement and ephedra/caffeine for energy and/or fat loss, creatine is the only other supplement that has panned out in research to be of any use.
Pretty much ever other performance supplement sold is a large waste of money.
i dont think the lipoic acid will be much of any use. the 2-3mg of creatine in Cell mass does PLENTY of work for me in terms of recovery.
Protein supplement, caffeine and creatine is about hte only thing i use. so i guess im saving money that way from all those hyped up products!!!
I really need to stop htiting the gym and doing muay thai. I am SOOO cooked.
Today was a leg day my work out was something like this (150lbs 5'6")
5sets of 12 Individual Leg extension at the 75 "lbs" on the machine (is it even lbs i dont know)
5sets of 12 Individual hamstring curls at 75lbs on the machine
1x20 set of ATG squat @ 135lbs,
2x15 set of ATG squat @ 155lbs
3x25 set of Calf raises @ 185lbs on Smith Machine
30lb Hip flexor workout
Abs balh balh ablha
Then Muay Thai I was just toasted.
+ lack of sleep latley has really draged my performance way way down.
there is some decent research showing alpha lipoic acid aids in the uptake of creatine, especially for those non-responders who get nothing from creatine on it's own. If you're a decent responder than the there is little need for ALA for sure. It his cheap however and has some decent antioxidant properties, so worth the expense for those who don't respond well to creatine on it's own.
Two and a half months until my next Muay Thai smoker... Easter weekend and my new infrared grill have me over 190. Gotta get below 180.
///time to have a cigarette and think about losing weight...
i'm starting to see 219 on the scale regularly now. (was seeing 250 a little over a year ago. 230 in early may right before i had the accident and stopped working out)
maybe if i start doing the interval training shit again it will drop a bit mroe before the muscle makes me heavier.
i wonder if i will even get back down to the 200 range
i feel rather good about myself and am encouraged to actually clean the workout room so i can get back into a regular workout other than soccer.
OK, so I've been struggling with eating healthy (I say that like someone is to blame other than me... like everytime I stroll my lazy ass into the kitchen a troll jumps out and forces me to eat Twix instead of apple slices...) so I decided to begin logging my food intake. A friend's wife lost 40lbs not working out, just logging her food on MyFitnessPal.com... figured I'd give it a shot. ///not a plug, DTRAL is not compensated to use the site, etc etc...///
So, I signed up this morning. Thus far, it's a decent easy-to-use d-base with lots of pre-programed caloric and fat values. It definitely takes the work out of tracking what you're eating. It's got a couple tools for figuring BMR and BMI, but they're very general... it's obviously not for anyone that is into a hardcore training regime, but it should be enough for what I'm trying to accomplish.
Plus, the shame of my BK breakfast and easter snacking was IMMEDIATE. Good gravy, I blew my fat cals before 10AM.
Farewell, bacon. I knew thee well.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on April 27, 2011, 09:58:44 AM
Farewell, bacon. I knew thee well.
let's not do anything hasty here.
moderation is the key sir.
turkey bacon is NOT the key.
noooooooo!!! baconator to the resucue!!!
I lost 8lbs in 9 days....not water weight. That road trip to NOLA took a crap ton out of me. I was 144 when i got back and ive been slamming back water like im about to take ad rug test, i only weight 146.
Quote from: He Man on April 27, 2011, 11:36:12 AM
noooooooo!!! baconator to the resucue!!!
I'm here! Who needs my help? ;)
[bacon]
Been out of town and only able to run for exercise. Took an opportunity to go for an early morning run one day last week and ran 4 miles in 30 minutes flat. I took it easy, wasn't really pushing myself too hard and tried to keep a relativly comfortable pace.
[thumbsup]
Finally getting back into it after a month vacationing on key west...Time to burn off coconut juice and a bunch of food.
I'll cycle to the gym, lift, and cycle back. It should be enough to get this fatty sore!
I think I've gone crazy...
Going to register for an F1 Duathalon at the end of the month.
Run (1.8 ), bike (10.2), run (1.8 ), bike (10.2), run (1.8 )
I'm super stoked cause the ride course is 3 laps of the long road course of Watkins Glen Speedway!!! We acutally get to ride the track!!!The run is around the interior of the track.
Now I just need to get my ass on the bike to build up my endurance. Not really worried about the run.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on May 02, 2011, 05:10:45 PM
I think I've gone crazy...
Going to register for an F1 Duathalon at the end of the month.
Run (1.8 ), bike (10.2), run (1.8 ), bike (10.2), run (1.8 )
I'm super stoked cause the ride course is 3 laps of the long road course of Watkins Glen Speedway!!! We acutally get to ride the track!!!The run is around the interior of the track.
Now I just need to get my ass on the bike to build up my endurance. Not really worried about the run.
That sounds awesome! Go for it!!! [thumbsup]
Starting an eight-week elbow 'module' in Muay Thai... Kru Ray decided that none of us use elbows well enough for his tastes, so we're focusing on elbow strikes extensively for the next two months.
DTRAL loves him some elbow strikes. Permagrin affixed!
Eight weeks is also the length of time until the next "smoker" - in-school fight. I'm hoping to fight at 180. Crossfit resumes on Saturday, and the AM running resumes June 1st.
So, in addition to bacon getting the 86, cigarettes are gone as well.
are you going to jump to sanctioned amateur fights after the smoker?
and Elbows are the shit! They'll teach you to keep your hands up!
A good read for those who use protein powders and eat processed foods
http://www.msgmyth.com/msg.htm (http://www.msgmyth.com/msg.htm)
Been swimming, cycling, and running a lot more the past few weeks. I'm feeling as good as ever!
I ate a baked spud today,and my usual bowl of special k. I did walk to get my car from the mechanics shop after the put new brakes on. Does that count as exercise? [laugh]
Quote from: He Man on May 05, 2011, 08:54:24 AM
A good read for those who use protein powders and eat processed foods
http://www.msgmyth.com/msg.htm (http://www.msgmyth.com/msg.htm)
Geez, I had no idea... good thing I've never had a MSG reaction. It's def. not on the labels of any of the supplements I've been using.
Longer days mean more sunshine and more time to train! I've been dedicated to getting up every morning at 4am and out on the road cycling by 5:15am.
As such, I have time to train 30-50 miles a day, do a quick weight routine (3 days a week), shower, make lunch, and still gingerly make my way to work on the Monster without much rush!
The only kicker is that last night it was 7pm and I was ready for bed!!
Two weeks away!!!
Still need to get a bunch more seat time in.
I know I'm not going to win, but I'd still like to finish.
Run (1.8 ), bike (10.2), run (1.8 ), bike (10.2), run (1.8 )
You can do it!! [thumbsup]
SealFit 4x4 today... 17 minutes.
After dropping the bar down from 95lbs to 65lbs.
I suck. Gonna go eat bacon.
Quote from: bryant8 on May 05, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
Been swimming, cycling, and running a lot more the past few weeks. I'm feeling as good as ever!
Just staring this combination. Hoping I'll be able to say the same in a few weeks
(might help if I back off the beer and wine and chips and cheese and....)
You and me both! I just signed up for a boot camp at the park near my place. 0600 3 times a week.
Can't wait!
Quote from: Stella on May 15, 2011, 10:20:16 AM
Just staring this combination. Hoping I'll be able to say the same in a few weeks
(might help if I back off the beer and wine and chips and cheese and....)
Up at 4am, out on the road for a training ride by 5:25am - did 33 miles this morning before work! Burned 1094 calories, and had an average of 19mph.
I love how it feels to start a day with the sun cresting the mountains as I'm out on a ride - it's completely refreshing!
Sounds great Dave!!!
Guess no one wants to hear about my last two rides in sub-50 temps in the rain.
Pulled out my winter tights for today's ride. [bang]
Thanks Diva! [thumbsup]
Hey way to go yourself for keeping up with it even in the crappy weather. I hate riding in the rain...
You're almost there though!!
Quote from: DesmoDiva on May 16, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Sounds great Dave!!!
Guess no one wants to hear about my last two rides in sub-50 temps in the rain.
Pulled out my winter tights for today's ride. [bang]
I rode 50 miles on Saturday. With 3,000 ft elevation gain along the way.
The temperature at the start was somewhere just above 32*. There was also a slight breeze involved.
IMO, any day on the bike is a good day!
Just to remind every one what this thread is about...
Quote from: MrIncredible on November 09, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
*Note, this is not a how to-let's not get into a debate over methods.
Are you out of shape?
Race leathers unusually tight?
Those stairs getting steeper?
Have random strangers stopped asking for sex?
Can't see your junk?
It's time to do something about it.
Post up here-set a goal, let us know how yer doing.
For example:
Quote from: MrIncredible on November 09, 2008, 09:55:17 AM
I'm tired of being sore and tired, so I've been running/weights for the last month or so. It's starting to pay off.
Ultimate goals are:
Drop weight from 210 to 190
Be able to run 5 miles in less than half an hour.
Pick up Paula's dirtbike with her on it (300 or so pounds).
So basically, get back to where I was 5 years ago.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Up at 4am, had 3 whole eggs and 3 whites scrambled for morning fuel, then rolled out for a 20 mile training ride by 5:15, was back by 6:30ish, did a 30min weight routine, made lunch, rode the Monster to work!
Another great morning! ;D
I had every intention of exercising yesterday & today.
Unfortunately, I forgot to pack gym shoes on this trip.
I don't want to risk injury by running in flip flops.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 17, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
I don't want to risk injury by running in flip flops.
You're running now?! :o
Good, then I'll have someone else to run with!
Quote from: Stella on May 17, 2011, 07:19:51 PM
You're running now?! :o
Good, then I'll have someone else to run with!
Ummmm...sure.
But no, I'm not doing a triathlon ever. Repeat. Ever.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 17, 2011, 10:46:58 PM
Ummmm...sure.
But no, I'm not doing a triathlon ever. Repeat. Ever.
I did my first one on two weeks notice...
The only swimming stroke I knew was the doggie paddle...
It was a 1/2 mile open water swim... funny story there...
15 mile bike
5 mile run
I finished 36th out of 117...
It was fun! I've done a bunch more since then. ;D
[bacon]
TBJ,
You don't inspire me.
Sorry.
I'll buy you a pack of [bacon] next time I see you to make up for it.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 17, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
Unfortunately, I forgot to pack gym shoes on this trip.
Barefoot running is all the rage these days. Lots of those guys want to wear the footsie-toes sneakers, but you can show them how the real men get down.
i hate running.
i'm with randy. no triathlons.
funk that with a big pointy stick.
however, i have started running more due to playing soccer more often. i'm down to 215lbs and my legs are pretty cut.
i'm thinking that if i can swing the cash i'll take up rock climbing too. it's a full body workout that doesn't require normal workout activities and weights.
Quote from: KnightofNi on May 19, 2011, 10:55:20 AM
i hate running.
i'm with randy. no triathlons.
funk that with a big pointy stick.
however, i have started running more due to playing soccer more often. i'm down to 215lbs and my legs are pretty cut.
i'm thinking that if i can swing the cash i'll take up rock climbing too. it's a full body workout that doesn't require normal workout activities and weights.
Sounds awesome - don't be mislead by rock climbing though - any good climber will tell you that it's all in the legs!! If you're legs are in good shape (like you said), you should have a good time! When I first started climbing though, more than anything, the muscles and tendons in my fingers hurt like HELL for a full month!
I really don't like running either - I get too bored.
[thumbsup]
Speaking of barefoot running, does anyone do it? I used to run with my wrestling shoes, on an indoor track, and that taught me how to run "barefoot" but it took a while to get used to. I'm not going to buy a foot-glove but I like the minimalist attitude.
Also, I've heard that barefoot running is good for flat footies like me. Is that true?
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 17, 2011, 11:18:24 PM
TBJ,
You don't inspire me.
Sorry.
I'll buy you a pack of [bacon] next time I see you to make up for it.
DEAL!!!!! ;D
[bacon]
Off to attempt swimming again tonight. 2nd time. Didn't do so well the first time. [thumbsdown]
I grew up in Lake Michigan but it was not the Mark Spitz (or Michael Phelps for you youngsters) type of "swimming"
that we did. It was playing. That was fun. Swimming....not so much.
Quote from: Stella on May 19, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
I grew up in Lake Michigan but it was not the Mark Spitz (or Michael Phelps for you youngsters) type of "swimming"
that we did. It was playing. That was fun. Swimming....not so much.
As were so many things when we were young...now they're just hard work. [bang]
[cheeky]
Quote from: Stella on May 19, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
Off to attempt swimming again tonight. 2nd time. Didn't do so well the first time. [thumbsdown]
I grew up in Lake Michigan but it was not the Mark Spitz (or Michael Phelps for you youngsters) type of "swimming"
that we did. It was playing. That was fun. Swimming....not so much.
Keep at it! I was pretty much a non-swimmer for my whole life and just learned proper technique about 3 months ago.
Im hitting the pool later tonight to work on more drills. 3rd time this week ;)
Hey Diva - wasn't your event this weekend? How did it go?
I just got back from a 62 mile solo training ride. It was a great ride - sunny, not too hot, a bit windy though. Burned over 2400 calories - time to eat!!
Nope, it's next weekend.
Don't rush it Dave...
I need all the training days possible. ;)
i was asked to play in a game on a full size field. people are taking this very seriously.
this means i have to start running. i hate running. [bang]
i better be in great shape by the end of next month.
Quote from: bulldogs2k on May 19, 2011, 11:14:10 AM
Speaking of barefoot running, does anyone do it? I used to run with my wrestling shoes, on an indoor track, and that taught me how to run "barefoot" but it took a while to get used to. I'm not going to buy a foot-glove but I like the minimalist attitude.
Also, I've heard that barefoot running is good for flat footies like me. Is that true?
I have two friends that got onboard this craze... one loves it, one went back to regular shoes. The guy that loves it broke into it gently (as per the recommendations) and has yet to suffer any ill effects. The guy that gave up tried to do four miles the first day... not really shocking that he hated life for a couple weeks and quit.
From what they've shared with me, lots of people are having problems acclimating due to a lifetime of supported arches. Many of them are developing muscle issues because they're suddenly using a new set of muscles and are overdoing it.
I'm still going to try it out, but not until I get through this fight. No sense in hurting myself before the other guy hurts me.
Crossfit - Lumberjack 20 this Sunday.
20 Deadlifts (275lbs) /Run 400m
20 KB swings (72lbs) /Run 400m
20 Overhead Squats (115lbs) /Run 400m
20 Burpees /Run 400m
20 Pullups (Chest to Bar) /Run 400m
20 Box jumps (24") /Run 400m
20 DB Squat Cleans (45lbs each) /Run to bathroom and call for Ralph and Earl for ten minutes.
This is why I fight. I'm awful at picking up heavy things.
This morning I began data analysis of my cycling progress via a database that I built and have been punching data into since late 2009/early 2010.
As a starting point, I decided to compare a training ride that I did this morning with that of one I did around the same time last year. What I discovered was both interesting and surprising:
Date: 5/17/2010 Distance: 22 miles Calories Burned: 1,443 Time:1 hour 24 mins Avg Speed: 17.3 mph
Date: 5/23/2011 Distance: 25.5 miles Calories Burned: 887 Time 1 hour 24 mins Avg Speed: 19.2 mph
To sum it up, I rode 3.5 miles farther this morning, burned 556 calories LESS (in the same time) and maintained an overall average speed ~2mph faster than last year.
I think what surprised me the most about these stats was that it's taking less effort to go farther and faster than when I started - however, that being said, I should be pushing myself harder because I'm not working as hard as I was a year ago (at least in regards to caloric burn).
I've only just begun extrapolating this data, but I think that what really is of value in general is tracking your work. It can really give you significant feedback as to how well you're progressing and what you need to do in order to stay on track and continue to make progress rather than only maintaining a certain level of fitness.
[thumbsup]
Mmm 3 piece Popeye's, Cajun fries n biscuit ... love these biscuits
how do u know how many calories you burned?
Quote from: He Man on May 23, 2011, 10:36:04 AM
how do u know how many calories you burned?
I have a nice HR Monitor that I use every time I ride or workout. What's really nice is that I can do zone training with it.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on May 23, 2011, 09:17:51 AM
I have two friends that got onboard this craze... one loves it, one went back to regular shoes. The guy that loves it broke into it gently (as per the recommendations) and has yet to suffer any ill effects. The guy that gave up tried to do four miles the first day... not really shocking that he hated life for a couple weeks and quit.
From what they've shared with me, lots of people are having problems acclimating due to a lifetime of supported arches. Many of them are developing muscle issues because they're suddenly using a new set of muscles and are overdoing it.
I'm still going to try it out, but not until I get through this fight. No sense in hurting myself before the other guy hurts me.
I've been running barefoot for a little over a year now. LOVE IT, won't go back to running shoes, I think we talked about this in this thread already.
I also started with about 4 miles, even with the advice to take it easy. It was a rough couple of weeks after that but well worth it.
So can you still run with shoes if needed?
Quote from: cokey on May 23, 2011, 10:46:47 AM
So can you still run with shoes if needed?
Yeah, but I don't like it. I played tennis with my wife a few weeks ago (I suck a fat one at tennis) and the shoes just feel weird at this point
So the zombies will get ya either way.. no shoe's, you'll step on something n fall..with shoe's, you'll b too slow lol..
Quote from: He Man on May 23, 2011, 10:36:04 AM
how do u know how many calories you burned?
U can purchase a bodybugg or gowear fit which attaches to your arm. It's a pretty neat little device.
The other way is to weigh and record every calorie you eat over a week along with activity. If you maintain your weight, going neither up nor down, you can get a good idea of your baseline + or - activity level.
Quote from: pitbull on May 23, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
U can purchase a bodybugg or gowear fit which attaches to your arm. It's a pretty neat little device.
The other way is to weigh and record every calorie you eat over a week along with activity. If you maintain your weight, going neither up nor down, you can get a good idea of your baseline + or - activity level.
My HR monitor has 2 sensors and goes around the torso. I find it to be quite accurate.
The database that I built will accommodate meal info as well as activity info too. It's an easy way to monitor what I put in, what I burn, and what I end up with as net calories at the end of the day.
Quote from: cokey on May 23, 2011, 12:41:52 PM
So the zombies will get ya either way.. no shoe's, you'll step on something n fall..with shoe's, you'll b too slow lol..
Yes, but IZ is hooking me up with a Zombie make the beast with two backser patch, so they will get the sledgehammer when they finally catch me.
Quote from: pitbull on May 23, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
U can purchase a bodybugg or gowear fit which attaches to your arm. It's a pretty neat little device.
The other way is to weigh and record every calorie you eat over a week along with activity. If you maintain your weight, going neither up nor down, you can get a good idea of your baseline + or - activity level.
that is supercool! i HATE the host of the product review enough to make me have to tell everyone. aside from weight management/weight lost (which is about the most important thing for people using this i think) it seems like its great for seeing your progress of strength and endurance training. Less energy spent doing the same activity = better endurance.
http://my.apexfitness.com/products/product_details.php?item=6009&isbb=Y (http://my.apexfitness.com/products/product_details.php?item=6009&isbb=Y)
Quote from: He Man on May 23, 2011, 01:43:36 PM
that is supercool! i HATE the host of the product review enough to make me have to tell everyone. aside from weight management/weight lost (which is about the most important thing for people using this i think) it seems like its great for seeing your progress of strength and endurance training. Less energy spent doing the same activity = better endurance.
http://my.apexfitness.com/products/product_details.php?item=6009&isbb=Y (http://my.apexfitness.com/products/product_details.php?item=6009&isbb=Y)
A really good point that I hadn't thought about in regards to my earlier posting. What I really want is to pull all of my data, compare it to last year, and then work up a new training routine to accommodate me "now" rather than me "then". Endurance has been a priority since last years goal was the 234 mile Cochise Classic which I completed 175 miles - this year is to complete the full 234.
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 23, 2011, 01:08:40 PM
My HR monitor has 2 sensors and goes around the torso. I find it to be quite accurate.
The database that I built will accommodate meal info as well as activity info too. It's an easy way to monitor what I put in, what I burn, and what I end up with as net calories at the end of the day.
sounds like a good system you have going with the HR moniter.
a couple cool things about the bodybugg/gowearfit is that they will also tell you what you're burning at rest and exactly what each activity burns for the duration. In addition it will tell you how many hours you're sleeping at night, which is a good thing to know.
Quote from: pitbull on May 24, 2011, 05:29:17 PM
sounds like a good system you have going with the HR moniter.
a couple cool things about the bodybugg/gowearfit is that they will also tell you what you're burning at rest and exactly what each activity burns for the duration. In addition it will tell you how many hours you're sleeping at night, which is a good thing to know.
haha, i would wear it all the time just to see how much i'm burning doing different things.
i always wanteds to know how many calories getting up and going to the fridge burns.
Got up this morning and did the same 25.5 mile route that I did on Monday but really focused on increasing my overall effort. I've never trained like this before, so it was a bit challenging trying to keep a higher overall increase in effort rather than just doing spurts and short runs. As a result though, my average heart rate went from 159 to 165 (peaked at 182) and I burned 28 more calories while maintaining the an overall average speed of 19.2mph. To put into perspective the increase in effort, my normal resting HR is 42bpm - so when I peak between 185-187 I'm almost on the verge of tossing my cookies.
It was a good ride and a beautiful morning! [thumbsup]
42bpm!!! that is very low and impressive. i can get to the 50s only if im meditating.
and at 180bpm, you might be spinning a rod bearing! watch out!
Quote from: He Man on May 25, 2011, 07:24:13 AM
42bpm!!! that is very low and impressive. i can get to the 50s only if im meditating.
and at 180bpm, you might be spinning a rod bearing! watch out!
[laugh]
Thanks! My resting HR has always been pretty good, but it dropped dramatically when I started cycling.
I'll be sure not to go to far into my heart's rev limiter!! [cheeky]
Quote from: KnightofNi on May 25, 2011, 07:08:38 AM
haha, i would wear it all the time just to see how much i'm burning doing different things.
i always wanteds to know how many calories getting up and going to the fridge burns.
that's actually the idea.........you wear it for a good week straight to get an idea what you're burning during all activities, including rest. It's a great eye opener as to how much you have to move along with your diet to create a calorie deficit.
Quote from: pitbull on May 25, 2011, 09:32:13 AM
that's actually the idea.........you wear it for a good week straight to get an idea what you're burning during all activities, including rest. It's a great eye opener as to how much you have to move along with your diet to create a calorie deficit.
i dont' care about baselines. i just want to know the numbers. [laugh]
i want to put all the mundane daily things in a spreadsheet.
Quote from: pitbull on May 25, 2011, 09:32:13 AM
that's actually the idea.........you wear it for a good week straight to get an idea what you're burning during all activities, including rest. It's a great eye opener as to how much you have to move along with your diet to create a calorie deficit.
What's really sad is how disconnected people tend to be regarding the nutritional values of the foods that they put in their mouth. Though I am only generalizing, the tendency (at least in the USA) is for people to eat
so much more than they actually need that they quite frequently trespass into the area of gluttony. As such, it's become normal for the scales to tip in favor of caloric surplus versus caloric deficit.
[roll]
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 25, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
What's really sad is how disconnected people tend to be regarding the nutritional values of the foods that they put in their mouth. Though I am only generalizing, the tendency (at least in the USA) is for people to eat so much more than they actually need that they quite frequently trespass into the area of gluttony. As such, it's become normal for the scales to tip in favor of caloric surplus versus caloric deficit.
[roll]
all very true.
In fact I have to make a very conscious effort to count calories to not gain weight and I've been at it enough years that I know the nutritional value and macronutrient breakdown of most common foods. I can even usually accurately guess the portion size of the food by weight just eyeballing it.
If I'm actively dieting I have to weigh everything I eat
Quote from: KnightofNi on May 25, 2011, 10:59:26 AM
i dont' care about baselines. i just want to know the numbers. [laugh]
i want to put all the mundane daily things in a spreadsheet.
It's certainly a fun tool for those who dig on charting stuff and creating spreadsheets. It actually can trigger some people's ocd behaviour if they're prone to it.
Quote from: pitbull on May 25, 2011, 12:54:04 PM
all very true.
In fact I have to make a very conscious effort to count calories to not gain weight and I've been at it enough years that I know the nutritional value and macronutrient breakdown of most common foods. I can even usually accurately guess the portion size of the food by weight just eyeballing it.
If I'm actively dieting I have to weigh everything I eat
It's great that you can do that [thumbsup] - but I'm talking on much simpler terms. Most 'standard' portion sizes could just be cut in 1/2 and people would get much closer to what they 'need' to eat rather than what they 'want' to eat.
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 25, 2011, 12:57:05 PM
It's great that you can do that [thumbsup] - but I'm talking on much simpler terms. Most 'standard' portion sizes could just be cut in 1/2 and people would get much closer to what they 'need' to eat rather than what they 'want' to eat.
this has been the hardest thing for me.
i have never been "fat" but i have been a little heavier than i would like. for the majority of my life i was way too skinny and could eat everything in sight and not gain any weight. i had under 6% body fat and had decently bad eating habits (i say decently bad because i still ate my veggies and leafy greens [laugh])
When i broke my hand arund 8 years ago i went from 185ish to the 220 range in a few months thanks to the inability to do anything more physical than walking. (i had pins in my hand and it hurt like a pregnant dog)
When i met my ex and we moved in together i was more sedentary and just put on more weight. when i hit 250 i knew i had to do something. it has taken me since i broke my hand and realized what is goping on to get used to smaller portions. on a regular basis. the point is, when you are used to somethign and then suddenly it changes you don't always know how to deal with it. also, i REALLY like eating. i love tasting new foods and i rarely actually count calories. it's an exercise in futility for me. I just work out harder later to account for it. [laugh]
Quote from: KnightofNi on May 25, 2011, 01:44:13 PM
it has taken me since i broke my hand and realized what is goping on to get used to smaller portions. on a regular basis. the point is, when you are used to somethign and then suddenly it changes you don't always know how to deal with it. also, i REALLY like eating. i love tasting new foods and i rarely actually count calories. it's an exercise in futility for me. I just work out harder later to account for it. [laugh]
I understand what you're saying.
I've always thought that there was a big difference between "living to eat" and "eating to live" - it's surprising to me how many people simply just 'like to eat' (no offense intended).
I like food too, but I find that overall I'm happier with things in moderation. My cycling performance relies so heavily on the 'fuel' that I put in my 'tank', and I believe that I can really tell a difference if I ate a healthy dinner the night before a training ride. The same goes for breakfast. I think that you do get out what you put in.
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 25, 2011, 12:57:05 PM
It's great that you can do that [thumbsup] - but I'm talking on much simpler terms. Most 'standard' portion sizes could just be cut in 1/2 and people would get much closer to what they 'need' to eat rather than what they 'want' to eat.
depending on the goal, yes.
Quote from: pitbull on May 25, 2011, 03:55:53 PM
depending on the goal, yes.
We'll...it's important to remember that not everyone has the specific goals.
;)
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 25, 2011, 03:59:14 PM
We'll...it's important to remember that not everyone has the specific goals.
;)
I'm sorry.........I don't think I understand what you're saying
[laugh]
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 25, 2011, 02:32:52 PM
I understand what you're saying.
I've always thought that there was a big difference between "living to eat" and "eating to live" - it's surprising to me how many people simply just 'like to eat' (no offense intended).
I like food too, but I find that overall I'm happier with things in moderation. My cycling performance relies so heavily on the 'fuel' that I put in my 'tank', and I believe that I can really tell a difference if I ate a healthy dinner the night before a training ride. The same goes for breakfast. I think that you do get out what you put in.
That's a part of my point. you do it because you are all gung ho on the cycling and have to watch it. most people are not. I am not a professional athlete, i'm a recreational athlete. i like being in shape, but i also don't want to worry about how what goes in will affect me. i enjoy the things that are bad for me. a lot of the time i enjoy them in levels far above moderation as well. [laugh]
because i do that it does not make me a bad person, just a different person with a different outlook on life.
Quote from: KnightofNi on May 26, 2011, 06:26:22 AM
That's a part of my point. you do it because you are all gung ho on the cycling and have to watch it. most people are not. I am not a professional athlete, i'm a recreational athlete. i like being in shape, but i also don't want to worry about how what goes in will affect me. i enjoy the things that are bad for me. a lot of the time i enjoy them in levels far above moderation as well. [laugh]
because i do that it does not make me a bad person, just a different person with a different outlook on life.
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't judging you or your response - I was just making an observation. Sorry if it still came across that way. ;)
Food for thought (no pun intended) - according to recent Galluop-Healthways survey, 63.1% of Americans are either overweight or obese!!!
63.1%!! :o
That's an absolutly
staggering number to say the least. To divide that out a bit more, the study found that 36.6% of that total are overweight and 26.5% are obese!!
No matter how you look at it, in America, people who live and maintain a healthy weight range are an absolute minority!!
:-X
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 26, 2011, 06:47:13 AM
Food for thought (no pun intended) - according to recent Galluop-Healthways survey, 63.1% of Americans are either overweight or obese!!! 63.1%!! :o
That's an absolutly staggering number to say the least. To divide that out a bit more, the study found that 36.6% of that total are overweight and 26.5% are obese!!
No matter how you look at it, in America, people who live and maintain a healthy weight range are an absolute minority!!
:-X
Damn sad isn't it. I don't understand it myself. The figures leave me with lots of questions. Do obese American's have low self esteem and a poor self image. Why am I driven to control my weight and fitness and others are not? I see families in which all members are obese and I wonder is it there a group acceptance there that it is okay to be unhealthy? Is this what happens to humans in a technical age, we get fat when we no longer have to struggle to survive?
There is a lot more ugly data associated with the overweight figures. Many health issues related to an overweight America.
is about access and image.
if you grow up with fat parents and fat friends its acceptable to be large. If the activies that you do are non active then you end up sitting around with a bunch of non active people.
good food is also much more expensive. when you compare the cost of things, a $1 cheese burger cant get you anything but maybe 2 apples. And when it comes to taste the burger wins.
Ease of access, burgerkings and mcdonalds everywhere, but the supermarket isle doesnt have jack squat. You want to make a healthy meal for your family with veggies and fruits? it will be way more expensive the nteh dollar menu at the drive thru plus you dont have to cook.
Quote from: He Man on May 26, 2011, 08:30:25 AM
good food is also much more expensive. when you compare the cost of things, a $1 cheese burger cant get you anything but maybe 2 apples. And when it comes to taste the burger wins.
Ease of access, burgerkings and mcdonalds everywhere, but the supermarket isle doesnt have jack squat. You want to make a healthy meal for your family with veggies and fruits? it will be way more expensive the nteh dollar menu at the drive thru plus you dont have to cook.
After spending some time in asia i noticed this a lot. Its cheaper to have a "home cooked" meal at a local street vendor than to have any type of fast food. The foods are fresher most bought at some sort of market that morning. Family life is different so there is always some one at home cooking a fresh dinner. Snack foods (Oreo's for example)cost more than a bowl of soup! Why would you snack when you can have a good dinner cheaper. Less fried food and dairy, lots of vegetables. Very little bread or just processed store food. You go to the fresh market for all your food, there is no grocery stores.
I think for us its about being cheap and convenient to stop at fast food for our too busy on the go lifestyle. Where there is rarely any time in the day to sit down and eat, or take the time to shop and cook everyday.
Quote from: He Man on May 26, 2011, 08:30:25 AM
is about access and image.
if you grow up with fat parents and fat friends its acceptable to be large. If the activies that you do are non active then you end up sitting around with a bunch of non active people.
good food is also much more expensive. when you compare the cost of things, a $1 cheese burger cant get you anything but maybe 2 apples. And when it comes to taste the burger wins.
Ease of access, burgerkings and mcdonalds everywhere, but the supermarket isle doesnt have jack squat. You want to make a healthy meal for your family with veggies and fruits? it will be way more expensive the nteh dollar menu at the drive thru plus you dont have to cook.
Correctly me if I'm wrong, but basically what you're saying is that a person doesn't have to take responsibility for themselves for being over weight or obese because it's acceptable to family and friends?
I call BS on that one - I think that's a cop-out. If a person wants to be more active, then it really has nothing to do with their non-active friends. As I see it, you're describing a codependency problem - one enabling the other - which is a whole different problem all together.
Ease of access does play into it - who can deny that fast food restaurants are well....everywhere. However 'ease of access' sound an awful lot like laziness.
Sure, organic products are outrageously expensive, but no ones saying that you have to buy organic. You can easily go to the store, buy the fixings for a meal that will feed you for several days. Divide out the cost and you'll be getting far more for your money than you get at McD's for a meal...not to mention a much healthier meal.
It's true that we live fast pace lives, but preparing for the week ahead of time makes that a very minor issue - and in the end you wind up saving money because of the effort that you put in in order to head yourself off at the pass.
[coffee]
I don't think the fast food is cheaper argument is true. If you buy in season vegetables and grains you can do better than fast food.
It really doesn't save much money the way we do it, but we have a veggie garden which makes eating healthy meals fun. Right now we are harvesting the best tasting tomatoes in the universe.
Not to blame the government, because that is the universal cop-out, but we do not pay the true cost of that hamburger. Beef is cheap because cattle are fed cheap corn. Corn is cheap because there is a government subsidy. The same corn is used to make corn sweeteners, chips, and other forms of junk food.
You really can't blame someone else for what you put in your mouth.
Quote from: akmnstr on May 26, 2011, 09:53:05 AM
You really can't blame someone else for what you put in your mouth.
Ding Ding Ding! I think we have a winner!!
I'm beat...I did a 20 mile training ride in the AM and went to Judo practice this evening. now it's time to crawl into a hole and sleep till Saturday.
back to the obese thing for a minute. according to some sources i was obese at 250. I'm also 6'2"
I didn't look obese. i looked like i had some chub to me. when that was starting to convert to muscle I was still overweight at 235lbs. because of muscle. there are a lot of factors that are overboard. you can be a bit chubby or "overweight" and still be pretty healthy.
now when you can't walk to the car without being out of breath, that is a problem. i'm not saying that there aren't a lot of seriously unhealthy fat people out there, i'm saying that the line of healthy and 6% body fat is a lot wider than most of the health nuts seem to think.
healthy food - making the right choices is hard. esp when you are busy and poor. that $1 cheeseburger an 2 for $1 apple pies are very easy to buy and you dont' have to do any more prep to eat than opening a wrapper. i personally find it rather hard to find time to cook, and cook healthier (only 2 tbsp of butter instead of 4 [laugh]) it seems half the time when i finally make it home from work i am totally exhausted and am not going to the store to get fresh veggies (i eat a lot of frozen ones as a result). some nights i don't even eat dinner. i just come in, sit down for a bit and then fall asleep. if i'm feelin up to it i make a can or 2 of tuna into salad and eat that. anyways, having been on both sides of the issue i see how difficult it is to eat healthy, but i also see why you guys don't understand it. i know what i should be choosing, it jsut isn't always feasible.
in other news, the scale told me i was 213 and change this morning. i also realized that my belly isn't forcing my shirt out as much. now if i could jsut get some freaking definition on the upper body. this is all really just an excersize in narcissism. i want to be fawned over when i take off my shirt. lol [laugh]
Quotei want to be fawned over when i take off my shirt. lol
Whatever the motivation you need to use, use it!
I understand that it is easier to eat junk; no doubt, it takes a little more effort to have
a good healthy diet. I'm lucky that I have a wife that loves to cook and understands good nutrition.
Back when I was single my diet was not quite as good, but it was still better than what most folks eat.
I had a selection of very simple recipes that were healthy and cheap to make. I used some packaged dinners too, but
those were better than fast food. When I did cook from scratch I'd make enough for several days. I also had a small garden back then and when it was producing I'd eat more fresh veggies and salads. What I'm saying is that is doable and not expensive to eat well, even for a lazy bachelor.
let me go back on that for a second Monster Dave,
You are totally responsible for what you eat and what you do. However, as a child your mind follows those around you. You are not aware of personal decisions yet. And as a consequence, if those around you are fat and lazy, in YOUR mind, it is okay because that is all you ever knew. Im not saying that the kid has to take his own action, im saying the kid doenst know any better because there is no other influence to eat better and be more active.
On the topic of organic foods, I never said you had to buy organic either. (your inferring quite a lot from what i said!) I said veggies aren't exactly cheap. Compare the cost of 20 Burger patties plus buns to cook on your george forman grill. $15 for a box of 20 patties and 2x $.99cent buns. thats $17 bucks for 20 burgers that could feed you a whole week.
To feed yourself with veggies for a whole week? with lean meats that are cooked properly and arent destroyed with fats and grease? I'll tell you it wont cost you $20 bucks and wont taste nearly as good. (taste is important for the averege joe. While i can eat oatmeal which taste like nothing without loads of surger and spcies, i know that eating the oatmeal about 1-2 hours before i do my Muay Thai, i feel TONS better because its a pretty solid fuel for me).
And it certainly wont fill you up. You need a combination of Fat and fiber to feel full. So obviously the EASY choice to make is the chepa burger that you cook at home. Not to mention the plethora of fried chicken and burger deals at fastfood resturants.
My point is, the industry makes it diffiult to eat healthy. Unless you are from a culture that naturally eats pretty healthy then its easy. Which brings me back to my point about ease of access. I shop at asian markets. And because I grew up eating lots of veggies, i pretty much got used to it and it is easy for me. My friends looked at me all werid when i would bring my school lunch compared to their ham sandwhiches. But that was me. But if i was a spanish kid who ate fried chicken every day and all his freinds except this one asian kid who ate some werid stuff, then i would think (and conseuqently my parents would think so as well) that eating fried chicken or having a burger is okay.
Look at the NYC school lunches. Heres what i grew up eating in the cafe
Burgers, Lasagna, Pizza, fried chicken, beef patties and tuna fish.
From High school up to about a year ago, i fell into the eating habbits of americans and i gained about 20lbs. I didnt realize it until my ex broke up with me and said you were the fattest guy ive ever dated (okay i was only 160 then) and i looked in the mirror and went holy crap i am getting chubby. But it was much easier for me to change my diet then a kid who grew up eating crap.
maybe i repeated myself several times, but i tend to not revise my post and im just going to click POST. you guys get the point though. Now im going to have myself some foooodddd cause I be hungry.
He-Man, I think you took my response a bit over the top. I was trying to make a point, I didn't mean anything personally directed towards you.
I drew conclusions based on what you had said. About friends and people around you, you never mention anything about a 'kid' in your initial post nor did you mention a time frame to limit your subject target. You framed it as "if you grew up..." implying that now you are grown up, which is also the point from which responsibility is being judged in my reply.
I made the point about organic foods as an example because organics are the most expensive - that example was intended to convey that there are other options available that don't cost nearly as much at the store. Nowhere did I say anything about feeding yourself veggies for a whole week (now THAT's crazy!!). I honestly hate most veggies anyway.
I would argue however, that you can cook yourself a lean meal (with turkey meat or lean beef) that's seasoned well that isn't loaded with fats and grease, tastes better, and doesn't cost as much. I know this because I do it all the time.
I think that feeling 'full' is a problematic example. Why must a person always walk away from a meal feeling 'full' rather than 'satisfied'? One big problem with people in the USA is that the instant they have the urge to eat, they over-eat.
I really didn't mean in upset you. To hear that you're dealing with some weight issues, also lends itself to the conclusion that this is a sensitive issue for you. So, like I said - I intended no offense.
oh dude, you did not upset me, i took nothing offensive from your post, its the internet, i should of put a ;) or a ;D next to it. [laugh]
Its just that the topic of eating right really gets to me because some people wont give it a chance. if you shop around and just stop saturating your taste buds with CRAZY amounts of fats and salts, you really end up tasting certain things. Its like hard drugs, the first time, a little bit gets you insnaely high. but after a while you need more and more intense dosages of it (I.E. a burger isnt enough without the ketchup which is super high in sodium and is hella tangy and sweet!!!!) then you need tons of fries with tons of salt and so on and so forth.
It really is about resetting your taste pallete and just being more open minded to different flavors.
i used to hate oatmeal, but if you try Irish Oats, put some nutmeg and cinnamon in it, and put it in the fridge , its the tastys thing in the world!!!! ive discovered buckwheat as well. Im a big fan of whole wheat raisin bread. And of course i balance my diet with meats and fats and just eat tons of veggies. I can get by with 20 bucks a week EASILY just because ive learned where to shop and what kind of foods can fill you up on the cheap and not throw you overboard in your diet.
Eitherway, my point is, you should treat your body with respect. and even if you are "healthy" now, things like diabetes, obesity, heart disease can sneak up on you and you dont relaize those kinda things until you change your environment and be educated about healthy eating.
One of the my exGFs had a huge candy addiction. I mean she would flip the make the beast with two backs out if she didnt not have her daily candy. As much as I like her, I dont want to deal with someone who has a sugar problem, and has a family history of diabetes. 70% of her caloric intake is candy. Its disgusting and it hurts me to see her like that, but really what can I do if she isnt willing to help herself? Stuff like that really upsets me.
You gotta let me know how you do it for 20$ a week.. hard for me since I work outside.. can't really bring a good lunch from home sin e no place to heat it up.. Ill bring a pbnj sandwich on some healthy bread for my 11am meal, but depending what area I'm working in its either 4$ or 15 bucks for a healthy meal..
you HAVE to cook and bring food from home. The reason why its so cheap is because its mostly veggies and rice. My protein intake is mostly from egg, soy, and protein shakes.
if i eat out once, is like $7-8 even at the cheapest. Unless I am going to eat out with friends that weekend for whatever reason.
I think this thread is way too serious.
Yep.
To compensate, I'm BBQing a 3' chunk of pork loin as we speak. :)
Quote from: Speedbag on May 29, 2011, 06:31:34 AM
Yep.
To compensate, I'm BBQing a 3' chunk of pork loin as we speak. :)
'Zactly.
I don't care about the shape as long as the overall dimension fits inside my leathers. ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on May 29, 2011, 06:36:06 AM
'Zactly.
I don't care about the shape as long as the overall dimension fits inside my leathers. ;D
[laugh] yes sir.
For the first time in my life, I'm having to drop a couple of lbs to fit into my leathers better. This getting older shit was only supposed to happen to other people!
Race didn't go too well. :P
Completed one leg each of the run and bike and then I was toast.
I could feel the heat starting to get to me and wanted to quit before they had to clean me up off the track.
Next year I will be better prepared and hopefully won't be in a car accident 3 days before.
Got up and went for a ride this am. [thumbsup]
Quote from: DesmoDiva on May 29, 2011, 06:46:06 AM
Race didn't go too well. :P
Completed one leg each of the run and bike and then I was toast.
I could feel the heat starting to get to me and wanted to quit before they had to clean me up off the track.
Next year I will be better prepared and hopefully won't be in a car accident 3 days before.
Got up and went for a ride this am. [thumbsup]
I say great job for getting out there and even attempting it.
I'd bet there's a large percentage of people who would have taken the accident as a convenient excuse to bail.
[thumbsup]
I agree with Randy - way to go Diva!! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
I did an alumni bike ride yesterday with Team in Training. It was really geat to see some old friends and especially great to hook up with my old coaches.
This season alone, the local chapter raised over $100,000 for clinical research and treatment of cancer.
[thumbsup]
went surfing, got pounded!
did yard work today.
Every time I say I need to exercise because I'm out of shape, Sac Duc always reminds me, "Round is a shape...!" :D
Thanks Carl... [roll]
[bacon]
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on May 30, 2011, 10:10:41 PM
Every time I say I need to exercise because I'm out of shape, Sac Duc always reminds me, "Round is a shape...!" :D
Thanks Carl... [roll]
[bacon]
I'm helping. :)
Seriously though, now that DIMBY is over we should start dialing back the alcohol intake a bit. That will help us shed some pounds right there.
sac
maybe a couple of pushups here and there wouldn't hurt, yeah?
[bacon]
/not talking about bras, either... ;)
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 30, 2011, 09:19:52 PM
did yard work today.
excellent workout.
The calorie burn for yard work exceeds many aerobic exercises for the same period of time. Certainly bettter than doing the typical gym hampster routine of eliptical, stairclimber or treadmill.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 30, 2011, 09:19:52 PM
did yard work today.
Kicks my butt every time.
My folly this weekend was running 4.3 mi before going to the Indy 500.
Say it in the Adam-Sandler-as-"Cajun Man" voice:
De-hy-dra-TION.
Quote from: dropstharockalot on May 31, 2011, 05:49:13 AM
Kicks my butt every time.
My folly this weekend was running 4.3 mi before going to the Indy 500.
Say it in the Adam-Sandler-as-"Cajun Man" voice:
De-hy-dra-TION.
You got dehydrated after only running 4.3 miles??
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 31, 2011, 06:25:05 AM
You got dehydrated after only running 4.3 miles??
Your surprised? It doesn't take that much to cause dehydration. You don't have to be passing out to be dehydrated. Here in hot humid southeast Texas I will get dehydrated from just doing yard work and hanging out in my shop for the afternoon. I ran 3 miles this morning before work and I can feel that I don't have enough water back in me yet.
A side note on Hydration. I visited Big Bend NP last year and learned that dehydration can cause a grumpy (cranky) attitude. I then started running into hikers and bird watchers in the desert that were very irritable and a general pain. It was obvious they were not drinking enough. When I notice a bad attitude coming on, I will force down a liter of water and often it helps me get normal again. Sometimes I'm just a cranky old man and nothing helps.
found a place to run through the woods.
running is still stupid.
i quit after nowhere near long enough. it was freaking 95 degrees and 9 million% humidity.
i want to be fit and have endurance, but forget that. i'd rather sit in the A/C and drink a beer. [drink] ;D
I did supersets of 12 ounce curls and 1 ounce curls this weekend...
My arms don't hurt, but my head sure does! :P
;D
[bacon]
Rode 4.3 miles to work..
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on May 31, 2011, 07:04:43 AM
I did supersets of 12 ounce curls and 1 ounce curls this weekend...
My arms don't hurt, but my head sure does! :P
;D
[bacon]
I'm blaming my poor performance on my bike this weekend to west coast Dimby.
Just reading the posts made me feel inebriated! :o
Yard work yesterday was a good workout (if an aching back is considered "good").
Today I either run (ok, slow breathless jog) or flounder a few laps in the pool.
Something is better than nothing to change the shape of round. ;)
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on May 31, 2011, 07:04:43 AM
I did supersets of 12 ounce curls and 1 ounce curls this weekend...
My arms don't hurt, but my head sure does! :P
;D
[bacon]
that's a workout i can get down with!
Remember:
1 beer = ~150 calories [drink]
6 beers = ~900 calories [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink]
9 beers, 4 shots, and a handful of mixed drinks = 0 calories. [drink] [beer] [wine] :o :-X [puke]
Yeah, beer is my Achilles Heel. [drink]
Had a checkup today (primarily for cholesterol, every six months). Since the last visit, I've been stationary biking fairly religiously (not to mention significant yard work for the past two months), and have noticed an increase in stamina, plus my belt gets cinched a little tighter toward the no-hole zone these days. So I get on the doc's scale and, bingo, a 4 pound increase.
:P
What a buzzkill. But it was lessened by the nurse's optimistic comment that muscle handily outweighs fat.
Quote from: Buckethead on May 31, 2011, 02:22:21 PM
Remember:
1 beer = ~150 calories [drink]
6 beers = ~900 calories [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink]
9 beers, 4 shots, and a handful of mixed drinks = 0 calories. [drink] [beer] [wine] :o :-X [puke]
also known as renting.
Quote from: Speedbag on May 31, 2011, 02:28:12 PM
Yeah, beer is my Achilles Heel. [drink]
Had a checkup today (primarily for cholesterol, every six months). Since the last visit, I've been stationary biking fairly religiously (not to mention significant yard work for the past two months), and have noticed an increase in stamina, plus my belt gets cinched a little tighter toward the no-hole zone these days. So I get on the doc's scale and, bingo, a 4 pound increase.
:P
What a buzzkill. But it was lessened by the nurse's optimistic comment that muscle handily outweighs fat.
muscle is 3x heavier...
Quote from: akmnstr on May 31, 2011, 06:37:47 AM
Your surprised?
It just
took me by surprise! That's all! Running is something that I've always had a hard time with - good for you though for getting out there and pushing yourself!
Quote from: Stella on May 31, 2011, 08:20:26 AM
I'm blaming my poor performance on my bike this weekend to west coast Dimby.
Just reading the posts made me feel inebriated! :o
[laugh]
...and looking at the pics might actually make you feel dizzy. ;)
...or nauseous. :-X
[cheeky]
Quote from: Buckethead on May 31, 2011, 02:22:21 PM
Remember:
1 beer = ~150 calories [drink]
6 beers = ~900 calories [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink]
9 beers, 4 shots, and a handful of mixed drinks = 0 calories. [drink] [beer] [wine] :o :-X [puke]
Unfortunately, I retained all those calories. :-\
My training regimen over the last two months with "Coach Carl" saw to it that I didn't [puke]
[bacon]
We really need a serious "i'm already make the beast with two backsing fit thread" because I would be the first one to post in it.
I was such a beast on the bike tonight, I swear my cadence was rippin' it even with a headwind.
There was one nasty steep at about a 12% grade. I figured it would take me about a minute at 60-70rpm
dropped in the 21-11 but I hammered on the beaters for the attack on the massive freeking mountain and
to be rid of all the cycling poseurs, my gawd - what is WRONG with them? Can't they go ride in the park?!
[roll]
It was a short, quick spin - about 52 miles, 37 minutes - after a light day at work including the begging of
the veep to analyze a quantum physics formula that no one else could figure.
People - just let me do my job! Another: [roll]
So like I'm rolling out for an o'dark thirty brick tomorrow morning before work - like 2,500 meters and a short 10k.
Gonna go juice up now and micro analyze the ride deets.
word.
;D
Quote from: Stella on May 31, 2011, 07:51:36 PM
We really need a serious "i'm already make the beast with two backsing fit thread" because I would be the first one to post in it.
I was such a beast on the bike tonight, I swear my cadence was rippin' it even with a headwind.
There was one nasty steep at about a 12% grade. I figured it would take me about a minute at 60-70rpm
dropped in the 21-11 but I hammered on the beaters for the attack on the massive freeking mountain and
to be rid of all the cycling poseurs, my gawd - what is WRONG with them? Can't they go ride in the park?!
[roll]
It was a short, quick spin - about 52 miles, 37 minutes - after a light day at work including the begging of
the veep to analyze a quantum physics formula that no one else could figure.
People - just let me do my job! Another: [roll]
So like I'm rolling out for an o'dark thirty brick tomorrow morning before work - like 2,500 meters and a short 10k.
Gonna go juice up now and micro analyze the ride deets.
word.
;D
Holy Sh!t!!! I just about choked on my pasta! [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
You're awesome! [thumbsup]
[bacon]
LOL [laugh] ^^
Stella's going to hell on a bicycle.
That I am.....
With a hand-basket.
Wearing my <fire retardant> lid.
;)
FWIW:
It's absolutely ridiculous that those of us who work so hard to get in shape and are eager to share our accomplishments are mocked like this. You (and you all know who you are) should be ashamed of yourselves - 1 for being out of shape and are only able to whine about it, and 2, for not being big enough to be able to just keep your mouth shut if you don't have anything nice to say.
Frankly, I'm surprised that some of you can afford the time to take your hands out from the bag of chips long enough to post up your negative remarks.
There are quite a few people on the DMF who are passionate about fitness but don't post because of the 'anti-fitness' sentiment that so ironically flows through this thread...
The really sad part is that the few of us who post about our fitness routines aren't the reason that this thread suffers - you're doing it to yourselves - the negative remarks in this thread are what hurt motivation - they encourage the exact opposite of what this thread was supposed to be all about. Judging people for getting fit brings down the entire house of cards....no matter how indirect comments may be.
I opted to take the stairs instead of the escalators at Houston Intercontinental today. Twice. [thumbsup]
Then I walked up 177 stairs in a lighthouse here in Floriduh.
Followed by some 12oz curls (recovery in a can, as I like to call it).
P.S. we need a "workout/sweaty" smiley.
STELLA FTW [thumbsup]
Quote from: Stella on May 31, 2011, 07:51:36 PM
We really need a serious "i'm already make the beast with two backsing fit thread" because I would be the first one to post in it.
I was such a beast on the bike tonight, I swear my cadence was rippin' it even with a headwind.
There was one nasty steep at about a 12% grade. I figured it would take me about a minute at 60-70rpm
dropped in the 21-11 but I hammered on the beaters for the attack on the massive freeking mountain and
to be rid of all the cycling poseurs, my gawd - what is WRONG with them? Can't they go ride in the park?!
[roll]
It was a short, quick spin - about 52 miles, 37 minutes - after a light day at work including the begging of
the veep to analyze a quantum physics formula that no one else could figure.
People - just let me do my job! Another: [roll]
So like I'm rolling out for an o'dark thirty brick tomorrow morning before work - like 2,500 meters and a short 10k.
Gonna go juice up now and micro analyze the ride deets.
word.
;D
Self explanatory. I'm not ashamed of jack shit.
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 31, 2011, 09:40:25 PM
FWIW:
It's absolutely ridiculous that those of us who work so hard to get in shape and are eager to share our accomplishments are mocked like this. You (and you all know who you are) should be ashamed of yourselves - 1 for being out of shape and are only able to whine about it, and 2, for not being big enough to be able to just keep your mouth shut if you don't have anything nice to say.
Frankly, I'm surprised that some of you can afford the time to take your hands out from the bag of chips long enough to post up your negative remarks.
There are quite a few people on the DMF who are passionate about fitness but don't post because of the 'anti-fitness' sentiment that so ironically flows through this thread...
The really sad part is that the few of us who post about our fitness routines aren't the reason that this thread suffers - you're doing it to yourselves - the negative remarks in this thread are what hurt motivation - they encourage the exact opposite of what this thread was supposed to be all about. Judging people for getting fit brings down the entire house of cards....no matter how indirect comments may be.
So, remember when the thread title had to be changed to "not too serious" Dave?
Remember why?
I'm not going to search through all the pages, but I'll refer you to the first post:
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.msg255081#msg255081 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.msg255081#msg255081)
That was supposed to be the essence of this thread. Us average Joes who may have slipped a little. We were poking a little fun, you took it way too seriously and your reactionary post is appalling.
I was a competitive gymnast and triathlete. I trained every day for at least 4-6 hours a day. I was 174lbs. @ 3% body fat. Injuries ended my career, so I started my own business. When you leave for work at 6am and get home after 10pm, there is little time for exercise. Your accusations are gross.
I have since sold my business, started a teaching job, and am ready to get back into the swing of things. That's what this thread was supposed to be about.
You are in great shape and strive to be better. That's admirable. It really is. I used to be that guy. I know the dedication it takes.
But once again. This is the not too serious get fit thread.
Start your own "Monster Dave's get seriously fit" thread. I'm sure there are lots of folks here that would love it. Seriously.
Regards,
[bacon]
Hi
My name is Jacob
I'm a fireman and I drive an ambulance (this should mean I am god-like in my physique)
I'm 5'9" and weigh in at 260lbs (ish)
not so long ago (ok maybe closer to a decade now)
all but 12% of that was muscle (my reality is all that matters)
today we will call it 80/20 (remember...
my reality)
I drink too much
and
I like chips ( I don't really but I do love Pepsi and make the beast with two backs me I like a danish with my coffee)
Tomorrow I come off of light duty and back into the gym I go
I have one goal in mind right now
me and this mothermake the beast with two backser
(http://www.usfitness.com/commercial/images/climbers/sm916.jpg)
are going to go head to head until I can do
- 40 flights
- in 30 minutes
- full bunker gear
- on air
yay
IB4TL
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2648/3831713734_089475e450.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26408631@N02/3831713734/)
1000px-Padlock.svg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26408631@N02/3831713734/#) by nh_painter (http://www.flickr.com/people/26408631@N02/), on Flickr
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
...and Dave...
I'll eat all the chips I want and not you or anyone else will make me feel guilty about it.
Get over yourself.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
Sorry if my post offended. Was just poking fun at all the new fitness-type threads that have popped up or resurfaced. I only chose the sport of cycling because that's what I know, what I do (well, except for this past Saturday - the second time in the last dozen years when I just couldn't breathe or pedal).
Cheers! [beer]
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 31, 2011, 09:40:25 PM
FWIW:
It's absolutely ridiculous that those of us who work so hard to get in shape and are eager to share our accomplishments are mocked like this. You (and you all know who you are) should be ashamed of yourselves - 1 for being out of shape and are only able to whine about it, and 2, for not being big enough to be able to just keep your mouth shut if you don't have anything nice to say.
Frankly, I'm surprised that some of you can afford the time to take your hands out from the bag of chips long enough to post up your negative remarks.
There are quite a few people on the DMF who are passionate about fitness but don't post because of the 'anti-fitness' sentiment that so ironically flows through this thread...
The really sad part is that the few of us who post about our fitness routines aren't the reason that this thread suffers - you're doing it to yourselves - the negative remarks in this thread are what hurt motivation - they encourage the exact opposite of what this thread was supposed to be all about. Judging people for getting fit brings down the entire house of cards....no matter how indirect comments may be.
What an arrogant, judgemental load of shite [roll]
No one's judging you "for getting fit," but if that's the narrative you like to hear in your head, go with it :D
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on May 31, 2011, 10:13:49 PM
So, remember when the thread title had to be changed to "not too serious" Dave?
Remember why?
I'm not going to search through all the pages, but I'll refer you to the first post:
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.msg255081#msg255081 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14723.msg255081#msg255081)
That was supposed to be the essence of this thread. Us average Joes who may have slipped a little. We were poking a little fun, you took it way too seriously and your reactionary post is appalling.
+1
While the title wasn't always ""not too serious", the intent was.
And there's been multiple reminders of that.
;)
And now I'm going to walk down to the beach to watch the Blue Angels practice.
Quote from: ducpainter on June 01, 2011, 03:25:42 AM
...and Dave...I'll eat all the chips I want and not you or anyone else will make me feel guilty about it.
Get over yourself.
Look, no offense, but If you feel guilty about something, that's just how you feel. I've got nothing to do with that.
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on May 31, 2011, 10:13:49 PM
So, remember when the thread title had to be changed to "not too serious" Dave?
Who's to judge when a 'not too serious thread becomes too serious'? Because as it happens, a snide post was made that appeared to (in part at least) be directed towards some of my recent comments, which frankly, I was a little perturbed by - so I responded in suit and aimed my reply at the audience from which the insult came. What's the problem?
Are you telling me that people can talk down to those who make the effort to get in shape, but upon insult, those who are working to get in shape can't justly reply in suit?
Quote from: swampduc on June 01, 2011, 05:58:05 AM
What an arrogant, judgemental load of shite [roll]
Frankly, there's a difference between arrogance and the truth. And the truth of the matter is, and the history of this thread will show it, that those who complain are typically those who aren't willing to put even a modicum of effort to try and get into shape.
(http://6.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/9/1/bustedtees.9a7180099739f4fef4370651b1f9cf09.gif)
So, as it goes, there is a need for 2 threads - 1) The Get Fit Thread and 2) The Fat and Happy Thread.
That way there's no adding insult to injury by referencing forum members in thread titles and no segregating between fitness levels. Either you're getting fit or you're not and no one will judge either way.
Problem solved.
The bottom line - and it's very simple = If you don't like what other people are doing, then simply just keep quiet.
Hey Dave.
Here's a novel idea.
Start your own "fitness" thread.
[bang]
He already has one... ;)
[bacon]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 01, 2011, 07:31:26 AM
Hey Dave.
Here's a novel idea.
Start your own "fitness" thread.
[bang]
Hey Randy.
Here's a novel idea.
If you don't like this thread, why don't you start a thread of your own?
[bang]
Quote from: Monster Dave on June 01, 2011, 07:43:46 AM
Hey Randy.
Here's a novel idea.
If you don't like this thread, why don't you start a thread of your own?
[bang]
No need.
I like this thread.
I don't like your posts in it.
I've said or implied it many times.
It's time for breakfast. I smell [bacon]. And it looks tasty.
I'll probably go jogging after a bit, since I have no exercise equipment here.
Randimus: knock it off.
You too Dave.
This thread will get locked and I actually like it here.
Okay.
I'll head to the "ban myself thread".
You should.
>:(
did i just hear a whip crack? [laugh]
not everyone has the same ideas of getting fit and not everyone cares to count the calories. not everyone has the time to devote to it.
as i said before, i enjoy food way to much to not eat something. i just try to work out harder later. if i don't then no big deal.
Fack!
I forgot to pack my running shoes.
Again.
Maybe I'll try barefoot running on the beach.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 01, 2011, 09:03:53 AM
Fack!
I forgot to pack my running shoes.
Again.
Maybe I'll try barefoot running on the beach.
You. You are banned from this thread for a few days. And if you keep talking about jogging,
I will make you jog with me - you non-jogger you.
Quote from: KnightofNi on June 01, 2011, 08:19:02 AM
did i just hear a whip crack? [laugh]
Yes, yes you did.
;)
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 01, 2011, 09:03:53 AM
Fack!
I forgot to pack my running shoes.
Again.
Maybe I'll try barefoot running on the beach.
Consider taping your ankles if you go running on the beach.
Quote from: duccarlos on June 01, 2011, 09:08:34 AM
Consider taping your ankles if you go running on the beach.
[laugh]
It's only funny because he would rather die than run.
But there's certainly truth to the added ankle support. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Stella on June 01, 2011, 09:07:57 AM
You. You are banned from this thread for a few days. And if you keep talking about jogging,
I will make you jog with me - you non-jogger you.
Yes, yes you did.
;)
Hush, you.
I would have gone "jogging" this weekend, but you cracked the whip on me working in the yard.
:-*
Quote from: duccarlos on June 01, 2011, 09:08:34 AM
Consider taping your ankles if you go running on the beach.
That's sounds too serious to try.
Quote from: Stella on June 01, 2011, 09:10:16 AM
[laugh]
It's only funny because he would rather die than run.
But there's certainly truth to the added ankle support. [thumbsup]
I just mentioned it because my too serious neighbor decided that it would be a good idea to do just that. My ankles hurt for a few days after. Had to numb the pain with drunken stupor for a few days.
How about if I walk on the beach, and skip rocks across the water?
Upper and lower body workout?
nah... you'd have to take your hands out of the bag of chips to do that. Stick to jogging.
shit.
looks like running it is:
http://www.runningday.org/ (http://www.runningday.org/)
At the surgeons office right now, officially released to focus on my fitness goals
Official fighting weight is 266... My reality isn't too far off
Why does a moto forum need two contentious fitness threads?
Why do we need any fitness threads?
Quote from: ducpainter on June 01, 2011, 10:13:30 AM
Why does a moto forum need two contentious fitness threads?
Why do we need any fitness threads?
Where else would peeps do cartwheels?
It's been suggested that an apology may be due for my previous post/rant. After giving it due consideration, and having reread that which I posted, I do feel that what I said about the hand in the bag of chips was out of line - for that, I do apologize. I was angry, still am to some degree, but that part wasn't called for. Everything else that I said (albeit hard to swallow) was based on posts and observations made from within this thread.
There's obviously a huge amount of animosity for people who pursue fitness goals and share their process with the general public. God forbid someone should share something that might actually help someone else along the way. Nothing that I said was pointed at any one person specifically, but many of you took it to heart.
When it comes down to it, the only thing that I've ever done is share what I do, and share what I'm passionate about. I love it, and I can't help that. But no one has a right to take that away from me or anyone else because as many of you have demonstrated, devaluing someones effort hurts (which I believe I fully demonstrated in my post by devaluing effort as a whole).
More often than not, as I just demonstrated, there's often more to my posts than what you read at face value. [roll]
Quote from: Monster Dave on June 01, 2011, 03:03:43 PM
There's obviously a huge amount of animosity for people who pursue fitness goals and share their process with the general public.
You really thing so? Really? I seriously doubt that is the case at all. More likely that certain individuals who work out like hell come across as having a superiority complex and looking down at those who do not share the same goals.
Not sure what the hell is going on in this thread since I last checked in... But been swimming a lot better lately and it's become less of a grind. [thumbsup]
Quote from: DRKWNG on June 01, 2011, 03:11:58 PM
You really thing so? Really? I seriously doubt that is the case at all. More likely that certain individuals who work out like hell come across as having a superiority complex and looking down at those who do not share the same goals.
Speaking only for myself, I went back over the past 10 pages and read what I posted. I've been supportive of others, encouraging, made observations, shared interesting information, been corrected a time or two, made apologies where necessary, actually even tried to rope in the 'seriousness' of the thread...so overall, I fail to see how that classification could be targeted in my direction?
Quote from: DRKWNG on June 01, 2011, 03:11:58 PM
You really thing so? Really? I seriously doubt that is the case at all. More likely that certain individuals who work out like hell come across as having a superiority complex and looking down at those who do not share the same goals.
sounds like a little oversensitivity and lots of misperception on both sides of it.
I think most of the seemingly "anti-workout" comments have been harmless fun poking at those who take training a little more serious, but perhaps taken a little too much to heart.
On the flip side, I haven't seen one comment, by those who are serious about their training, that came across as sounding like an attitude of superioritytowards those who don't train more seriously. I think there might just be some projecting going on.
FWIW, the best behaved forum I visit on regular basis is a performance training forum. Nothing is modded on the forum and nobody gets banned. You can say whatever you want, call anyone anything you like and make any claim you feel you can get away with. However, you can't edit your posts and you are held accountable for everything you say by some very clever members who won't hesitate to call anyone out on any bullshit. It cuts down on the misunderstandings, misperceptions and BS in general.
I think all the parties should fill one of these out, in triplicate...
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll67/cjhernan/hurt_feelings_report.jpg)
[laugh] Now that's funny Carlos!!
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 01, 2011, 07:46:24 AM
No need.
I like this thread.
I don't like your posts in it.
I've said or implied it many times.
It's time for breakfast. I smell [bacon]. And it looks tasty.
I'll probably go jogging after a bit, since I have no exercise equipment here.
:D [thumbsup]
Quote from: Monster Dave on June 01, 2011, 03:25:38 PM
Speaking only for myself, I went back over the past 10 pages and read what I posted. I've been supportive of others, encouraging, made observations, shared interesting information, been corrected a time or two, made apologies where necessary, actually even tried to rope in the 'seriousness' of the thread...
I couldn't agree more.
Quote from: Monster Dave on June 01, 2011, 03:03:43 PM
There's obviously a huge amount of animosity for people who pursue fitness goals and share their process
Gotta disagree with you on that one.
Quote from: pitbull on June 01, 2011, 04:00:04 PM
I haven't seen one comment, by those who are serious about their training, that came across as sounding like an attitude of superiority towards those who don't train more seriously.
Agree completely.
Which is why, for fun, I came up with that little ditty (while on my roadie, mashing my pedals yesterday) because of all the other threads popping up. No other reason. None. I could've posted about what it takes to be fit showing horses and show jumping because it's the only other "sport" I was somewhat good at but I couldn't come up with a "funny" post that wouldn't be a cure for insomnia other than the only other thing I know relatively well: cycling.
I'm only sorry for the ugliness (but mildly entertaining) that my post has brought out (Randimus will be dealt with, again, when he gets home). Not sorry for how anyone (mis)interpreted what was supposed to be a funny post - and something that you WOULD hear on any given day in Boulder or Bend or any other cycling mecca.
Back to normal fitness type nonsense, ok? ok. ;D
[beer]
Still....
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too make the beast with two backsing serious.